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Hello everyone!

First time poster, long time lurker.

I'm looking to get some advice on what would be my best study option leading up to the October LSAT. My PT scores seem to have hit a plateau around 158-160 right now. My latest BR score was 173, so I realize that there is room for PLENTY of improvement in both PT and BR. Anyway, I've started to obsess over this stupid test and have no problem with retaking in December if I can't reach my goal of 170 by October. With that said, what study method do you all recommend for maximizing my score for October and leading into December? I know more PT/BR will help but should I be focusing more time on fundamentals/specific question types?

Thanks!

Hope you're all having a lovely HUMP DAAAY.

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PT61 BR Tonight at 8pm ET

Ok, ok, ok. we've had 2 people so far say they can't make 7pm ET like we'd planned. SO. We're doing 8pm ET for tonight. Let's just all calm down and play it by ear. Oh BTW, we're 52 days from October 3rd. Freaked out yet ???!?

Nah, bro. Join us for soothing rhythms and transcendent insights on tonight's BR call.

Note on all groups

  • For the newbies: Add me on Skype, using handle nikkers625 .
  • For the regulars: Please let me know if you plan to join tonight's session and have not yet been added to the conversation.
  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So please do not check your answers beforehand :-) Or if you do, just try not to say things like "No, guys, I checked, it's D."
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • PLEASE ... Ask questions !!!! In so doing you are giving others the opportunity to uncover weaknesses in their own understanding, review fundamentals, and ultimately improve their own score. And you're giving yourself the opportunity to do the same. Wow, such harmonious learning experience.
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via Skype and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    You know that whole piece of advice to skip those turdy substitution questions?

    Well. Look. I just did that in a section. Saw it, said NO THANKS, boxed it, moved on, didn't care. Had a tish of extra time, came back to it, still didn't care, eliminated some AC's, pulled the trigger. Nothing to lose, possible 1 point to gain.

    -0. That would NOT have happened if I had wasted time on this Q, friends. Was tighter on time in this section than I'd like to be; if I'd wasted the likely 2min+ had I gotten sucked into that vortex, I wouldn't have gotten to one or two questions at the end due to the confidence sink these substitution questions often entail, time sink aside.

    Just an example of how following one little bitty piece of 7sage wisdom can result in a real difference of a couple of points.

    So, in summary ...

    PS: It was thanks to @Pacifico who recently was advocating for this on the BR calls. This is why we listen to Pacifico.

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    Hi Everyone!

    Just a heads up. Got the below email from Cambridge LSAT regarding their LSAT content.

    "You may have seen the announcement on our website, but just in case, please see the points below.

    Our license to sell LSAT materials to the "general public" has been revoked, and as of August 15th, we will no longer be selling official PrepTest content in either digital form or paperback form. Should you have any questions about LSAC's digital content policy, please inquire with them directly.

    We will continue to offer downloadable explanations for a broad range of PrepTests.

    Our bookstore will remain open for purchase of mostly non-Cambridge paperbacks and Kindle eBooks.

    We have a very limited number of the Ultimate LSAT Prep Package (paperback) bundle at a special discount. These won't last long!

    Complete explanations for the Official LSAT PrepTest 75 (June 2015) are available for instant download.

    It has been our pleasure providing high-quality downloadable materials over the past six years, and unfortunately, there wasn't a way to both satisfy LSAC's requirements and keep our downloads free from onerous restrictions. If you feel, like we do, that LSAC's digital policy is unnecessarily restrictive and harms students preparing for the test, please voice your disapproval. If enough students express discontent with the status quo, LSAC might reconsider its position.

    Sincerely,

    Cambridge LSAT"

    TL;DR their license expires on August 15th so if you plan on using Cambridge for drilling and/or tests, plan to buy before then!

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    I have been kind of looking around posts with advice on what to do, how to do it, and in what time range, and I see a lot of "don't do this," "no, you can't do that," or my favorite, "it take more than x amount of time." I feel as if some people take that as a predictor of what is going to happen. I want to clarify something for everyone who misunderstands posts of guidance, ONLY YOU CAN DETERMINE ANYTHING, whether it be it length of time, what your approach should be, how to do something, or anything that pertains to, not just this test, but anything. Let me clarify a bit. I am not saying do not listen to ANY of the advice, what I am saying is take everyone's advice with a grain of salt, and rely on yourself, and be confident in yourself no matter what it is that you do. I read something on another site, and someone was asking if they could reach 170 in 4 months with a 150 diagnostic, and a few people outright said it was near impossible. Nothing is impossible if you work hard, only failures, and people who lack self-confidence think anything is impossible. Just work hard, trust yourself, and don't sell yourself short.

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    So I am in the section of the curriculum where I am doing Logic Games, and I wanted to get your opinions on my strategy of tackling the practice problems. What I have been doing is doing the games on my own no matter how long they take until I figured out every inference on my own, sometimes it takes really long, sometimes I get the inferences in seconds. I do not watch JY's explanation until I am done with the game. Is this what I should be doing to get better at inferences, or is it better to just watch the game explanation if I am unable to make the inference?

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    So based on GREAT advice from people who've posted on here here (@pacifico, @nicole.hopkins etc), I've decided that I will definitely take advantage of taking the test in December. I plan on studying as if I'm taking it in Oct.

    However, should I cancel my current spot to take it in Oct and get my $$$ back since I'll be taking it in December anyways?

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    Who here has developed a system for skipping questions? What type of criterion does it/must it fulfill for you to justify a skip? Any and all insights will be illuminating! :)

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    I bought my copy of The LSAT Trainer this weekend and am looking for the most effective way to use it along with 7Sage. For those of you who have used both, did you complete one before moving on to the other, work through the individual sections in both concurrently, or use some other strategy? I'm currently about halfway through the first RC section on here and I don't want to lose the momentum I've built over the last few weeks, but I'm also aiming for the December test and having to complete another curriculum after I finish this one will seriously cut into the time I have to get through all the practice tests. Thanks in advance for your help!!

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    Hey guys, what's the consensus on drilling the weird games from the early 90's? I''m not finding that similar inferences come across these games and I don't know if doing one will help with another. However, I understand that these styles of games have been popping up again on modern LSAT's but unless I'm completely missing something here, I'm finding that a lot of intuitive inferences arise from the individual games, but don't parallel across the misc game range. I've been doing them for the sake of flexing some mental muscles here and there, but not necessarily drilling using the Fool Proof Method.

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    Two roads diverged in a wood, and I--

    I took the one less traveled by,

    And that has made all the difference.

    I just reread this poem after I wonder why I chose law school. I remember last year my mom and uncle said law school does not fit me since it is too hard. They said I should just choose an easy major and get an easy job. However, I know that an easy job can't win me a green card and there is no shortcut to success. Today, after I read this poem, I realize that I choose a path that lots of international students do not choose. That makes all the difference. What do you guys think of this poem? Besides the LSAT, we can still have some discussions for fun to avoid burn-out. :)

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    Hello 7sagers,

    Have you read the book "Tomorrow's Lawyers"?

    http://www.amazon.com/Tomorrows-Lawyers-Introduction-Your-Future/dp/019966806X

    I don't even know whether I should recommend it to you before the LSAT since it is quite pessimistic about the legal profession.

    In a nutshell, the writer predicts that in decades most law firms need to, if not be forced to, ultimately transform themselves to survive in the market due to the new technology. He also claims that the apogee of legal profession was in 2006, and most law firms charge much more than they deserve, merely because corporations used to pay since it seems only small percentage of a given deal.

    The author's argument is that most well-paid lawyers currently only provide technical services, which is not as professional as it seems and can be replaced by new technologies.

    Since I am not a lawyer and not familiar with the firm milieu, I can't tell whether it is true or not.

    I believe that some of you like me don't pursuit the law degree just for a lucrative job, but I am still concerned about the future, especially when it comes to paying back loans.

    I would love to hear any of your opinions, for the book, for future, etc.

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    I just wanted to open a discussion on how everyone is dealing with struggle when in comes to studying specific sections. I am a self study and I find myself getting very emotionally attached when not performing well when studying. It then makes me feel discouraged, but the opposite is true. If I do well I will spend extras hours studying to boost my confidence. How do y'all handle this struggle? Any advice is greatly appreciated!!

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    Looking back at my journey in studying for this pet peeve called the LSAT, I feel as though the prep course I took gypped me of my money (actually, my mom's money because she wanted to help me pay for the course)! I want a refund (too late now, of course)! Wow, I've purchased one too many LSAT study guides that have taught me completely nothing (except for the LSAT Trainer). All I have to say is, 7Sage you're a godsend! I am only on my third week of the course, but I can definitely say I feel more confident in being able to conquer the LSAT because of 7Sage. Thanks for reading! Back to the grind!

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    I was PTing in the 157-161 range for 2 weeks. Today, i took PT 54 and scored 167.

    I am not complaining... but I am confused.

    I did everything the same as I always do. Maybe it was a fluke? I will have to take a couple more PTs to see, I guess.

    Is it normal to see a 10 point jump like this? Has this happened to anyone else?

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    I realize this is subjective, but I have the opportunity to take a week off from work in September. If I don't take this vacation time, I could cash it out when I leave next summer. So just to get a feel from you all, what would you pay assuming it wouldn't break the bank but would be a significant amount of money? Thanks!

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    Hi All,

    I did the whole community college thing for two years before transferring to uni (hey it was 100% FREE & I racked up a bunch of free $ w/ transfer scholarships). Am I "lying" if I don't include the information on my resume? I don't think that LSAC even has room on the app portion for a college before a bachelor's. I've since removed the degree from my professional resume because it doesn't really matter since I now have a professional degree (but will always be in my heart....awwww).

    Thanks

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    I was struggling to answer the questions within the allotted time on LC. However, I am now at a point where I am able to answer 20 of the 25. The issue is that I guess on the last five, but seem to have lost accuracy. It's not that I have gotten any worse, it's just that I thought by answering more questions that would improve my score. It has either dropped or staying the same. Is this the correct approach?

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    Hey, is it possible for me to purchase just one part of the syllabus? I've already studied Reading Comprehension and Logic Reasoning and I'm perfect with those sections, I just want to buy the section for the Logic games explanations (not the test explanations, which are already free), but the actual explanations on the concepts.

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    After studying The Trainer, as well as here at 7Sage. I realized that there really is much to grasp than what appears on the surface. Learning the fundamentals and building one's skills is vital to success. My original goal was to take the December LSAT, although I had from the start a four month prep period, I don't feel I can master these skills yet. (I need a 165+) In addition, I want to participate in an internship to add to my law school application.

    My Question IS: How should I prepare to take the LSAT a year from now? I don't want to burn myself out, but at the same time not take things too slowly. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Also any tips to improve my resume/law school application would be great!

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    What kind of study regiment have you wonderful 7sagers developed for yourselves? For those that want to contribute, please be as concise in your comments so it's easily digestible for other 7sagers. Thanks!

    I'll start with my regiment:

    1. Meditation in the morning

    2. Healthy breakfast (you can ask me in PM what I have if you're really that curious)

    3. Head to my local library early

    4. PT in the a.m.

    5. BR in the p.m.

    6. Dinner

    7. Wind down, shower, and sleep.

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    Monday, Aug 10, 2015

    More time

    Does it make sense to delay going to law school by a whole year only on the basis of wanting more time to raise your LSAT score? I only ask because it seems as though there are a lot of things in life that we wish we could have more time to prepare for but it's not always necessarily wise to take that time off. In theory having an extra year to study would mean I would definitely get into a better law school than if I simply took the Oct or Dec test, but if my only reason is because of a single exam then I'm not so sure I'd be justified.

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