PREPARE FOR GLORY!!!!

I'm taking the LSAT outside the US so I have a couple more weeks to prepare but I just had a total meltdown on PT 71 yesterday. Worst score I have gotten thus far and when I reviewed the exam I saw many silly mistakes (misbubbling, ignoring the EXCEPT in the stem, entirely misreading the stem). I was taking the exam in a classroom where there was a lot of noise and music playing (?)...I want to chalk it up to these distractions but since I am so close to test day I want to nail down any issues I have now and now overlook them. Is there something bigger going on or do you guys occasionally have "off" days? How do you recover? Is there any value in retaking this exam this close to the test day? Thanks guys!

Hi - so I postponed my test for October but I'm just curious if anyone has taken an exam in these locations:

CUNY School of Law or Pace University? Which one is better?

So I checked out my test center, and the desks are TINY. Like maybe the size of a piece of paper. How should I deal with this?

There are some larger desks in the front but they are handicap accessible but I wouldn't really feel right sitting in one of those. I bet people are going to try to sit there though. Maybe I could ask a proctor if they are spoken for by people who need them? There are 2 desks that each fit 2 people.

What is everybody doing to warm-up on Monday?

When you register with LSAC please, for the love of all that is good in this world, select NO when you're asked if law schools can contact you.

Otherwise, your inbox will be positively filled with the equivalent of desperate, drunk texts from a lonely ex. I swear I got one last night that read exactly like this...

"PLEASE! It's not too late! We'll still take you! It's June but we still need you.... Please?"

You think I'm kidding but let me assure you, I ain't kidding.

In all seriousness, good luck to everybody on Monday. Go, fight, win. Do the thing.

Ok so I couldnt help but stick it out with Mike's method for LG since a few of you said it was actually beneficial to you in some ways and it's finally coming together! The use of his shapes are not bad. Although unpleasing to the eye, lol in a matter of a day I got used to it and I am already doing a LOT better on diagramming drills.I suppose it was just a matter of being too overwhelmed by the appearance of the diagrams combined with extreme fatigue that caused me to go crazy last night. I ended up re-reading the chapters that confused me last night (proof that studying when you are mentally and physically exhausted is an absolute waste) and I understood it much better today. I have a good patient load at work tonight and I don't have the emergency room so I will be able to get in at least 5 hours of studying! Thanks to those of you who continue to give me advice and inspire me to do my best. If anyone else is using The Trainer and is a little baffled by the LG section I will be more than happy to help clarify.

A fascinating essay by Lewis Carroll about learning that I feel mirrors our experience in training for the LSAT. : http://www.brainpickings.org/2014/06/13/how-to-learn-lewis-carroll/

So I have now begun studying logic games using the LSAT trainer and omg I am soooo lost. =( I am not a visual learner at all and it is very hard for me to "read" pictures. I often have trouble deciphering how to notate rules and the fact that I even have to draw a picture to solve the problem set overwhelms me. Even more alarming is the use of circles, squares, and triangles that I have encountered with the trainer! The mere visual of the shapes combined with the in/ out chart, lines, and other symbols drive me crazy and I am left feeling dazed and defeated before I even tackle the questions. Anyone else encounter this problem and overcome it somehow? Would you recommend using J.Y.'s method for logic games instead?

If I already know all the strategies and techniques? Now that I'm taking the October LSAT, I need to seriously work on my timing, but I can't figure out how to start. Does 7sage offer anything that could help with that?

Thanks.

It's all falling into place. I saved this test for close to the end in order to get a good picture of how I'll do on Monday, and in my PT I just hit a 171. I think Monday will go well.

Not only that, this was my first PERFECT games section where I actually did the substitution-equivalence! #winning

Reading comp was the usual point sink.. got -4, then -2 and -4 on arg 1 and 2.

Just gotta ride the wave baby.. keep this momentum

In my opinion, and based off of what I've seen on these forums, PT 72, or the June 2014 test was extremely difficult. I scored 4 points lower than my average on it. Being that it was the June test one year ago, does anyone think the June 2015 test Monday will also be similarly difficult? The scale for June 2014 was graded easier (because of the harder test) than most June tests before it. I'm nervous.

So I've finally started my long, arduous journey towards studying for the LSAT. Although it is tough with my son and I often think of how I had more energy and free time during my undergrad days, I am sticking to my guns and getting a little done each day. I started with LSAT trainer like many of you suggested and I plan to follow up with a 7sage course after I complete it. I am aiming to take the LSAT December 2015 (February 2016 the very latest). Feel free to comment if you too are planning on taking the exam at the same time. =) Anyway, I find it difficult to complete full PT's mainly because I am always interrupted by something my son is doing and if it isn't that I start late (like 10 pm at night) when he is sleeping and by that time I am too tired to finish the entire thing. Does anyone practice them by doing split timed sections half and half? I know it isn't the ideal way to practice but it seems like it the only way I would get a full PT done. In the weeks before the exam, I will probably just go to the library (provided that I have a babysitter) so that I can get the full experience. And blind reviewing on the same day? Lol. Forget about it! Between my son waking up, feeding him, getting him to go back to sleep, etc it's a lost cause. Anyone take the exam and blind review the next day? Any suggestions would be great!

I've read over and over that people advise against drinking coffee before the LSAT to avoid a crash and to avoid the... Laxative response it often elicits. However, I believe I am probably not the only one who is physically incapable of functioning at a college level without some form of caffeine. I generally drink coffee both before and during my PT's. What are you coffee drinkers planning to do? Drink a cup before going inside the testing center? Bring some coffee for the break? Caffeine pills? ADULT DIAPER!?!?

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http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-72-section-4-game-4/

So I was blowing through the games section of section 4 and then I got to this last game with about 13-15 minutes to spare. I saw that there were only two rules given and knew that I had to make some deductions ahead of time -- except I didn't know what they were. I tried to do as many questions as I could but realized I was missing something crucial (for instance, I saw that almost every answer choice had something about K-L but I couldn't tell if this was significant -- turns out, it kind of is). I missed every single question minus the elimination question for this game.

I'm curious as to what I could have done differently if I got this on the real test. Paging experts here: what would you do if you saw this game and realized you were missing the key deduction? How would you get yourself to see the game a bit differently?

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-72-section-3-question-07/

I've struggled with the newer (70+ ish) LR sections far more than I used to struggle with older tests. I have been pretty close to freaking out as of late because while I used to be able to count on LR to be "near perfect," my section scores in LR have been fluctuating wildly in the newer sections and I couldn't figure out what was causing the change.

Today while reviewing, I came to the realization that I couldn't really rely on my intuitive sense of the argument structure any longer. The arguments seem more convoluted, OPAs are mentioned initially in an attempt to confuse the situation (case in point, PT72, Section 3, Question 7... seriously, wtf).

After realizing this, I returned to my old method of clearly labeling the premises and conclusions in each stimulus and that *seems* to be helping. It has also helped me slow down a bit and I seem to have fewer reading errors. I've found myself relying more on the old grammar/indicator lessons (I should probably review those again in a bit).

I just wanted to share and find out if anyone else had discovered/thought anything similar. I suppose if you're nose for structure is already strong then you may be less likely to notice any change at all. LR in the mid-40's to late 60's was getting a bit formulaic, in my opinion, so I'm not really surprised to see this shift. They've gotta keep us on our toes after all.

Happy studying!

Hey everyone!

Like many of you I am taking the LSAT this weekend. I bought this course before taking the LSAT last fall, but didn't really use it for prep this time around. I know I have most of the tests bought, but when I click on them to get access like I used to, I have no way of downloading/printing the test. Something probably changed since I was last here and my brain is dead enough that I can't figure it out.

Anyone know how to download the dang PTs?

I feel like I could run an Ironman in an Iron-Man suit. I feel like Spider-Man after he got bit by that radioactive spider from Charlotte's Web. I feel like Kanye West when he sees himself in the mirror.

This was exactly the boost of confidence I needed going into my last week of preparing for the June LSAT. Thank you, JY and the rest of the crew! This course was my only real preparation and it brought my score from the low 160s to where I'm now consistently scoring 175+.

If you're not where you feel you need to be, stick with the program and don't be afraid to ask for help. In college I was notorious for never studying, but I've put upwards of 200 hours into this test now and I honestly barely noticed it. This system is phenomenal, especially if you're someone like me who only vaguely knows how to study but loves learning.

Seriously, I feel like a champion right now. 180! What the hell! Never thought I was capable of even coming within ten points of that on a PT. Now I need to go to sleep (as soon as I run off this energy).

Hey 7Sagers,

Someone sent this question to me and I thought you could help out! Here's the question:

If you don't mind, I wanted to get some real advice from you regarding my LSAT scores and law schools.

My first LSAT score was 160 (June 2014), and the second time I received 155 (December 2014). I applied to law schools afterwards, and got accepted to University of Illinois, and waitlisted on UC Irvine. I already signed up to attend the University of Illinois Law, but I am still hesitant mainly because I want to clerk for Supreme Court or get into a big law firm upon graduation, but I am afraid that the University of Illinois Law would not provide me with those opportunities due to its low school ranking (#41). Since my LSAT score went down the second round, I think I am afraid to take another LSAT to see my chances with higher ranked law schools next year, but if I could raise the score, I would like to take once more.

In my situation, what advice would you give?

and if so can you please show me? I want to star or highlight important lessons so I can review them quickly.

Hi All,

Sorry if this has been discussed already, I'm new to these boards.

I'm making a study schedule leading up to the October LSAT, and I know it is recommended to start from PT 35 and up. Should I start with the earliest ones and finish off with PT 50+ or start with PT 50+ and go to up to most recent PT's of 70+?

I might also take the December exam, so also keeping that in mind - I'm wondering if it is best to go in chronological order or just skip to the most recent preptests?

Thanks 7Sagers!

Before I forget, I want to make a point of thanking JY for his generous efforts of posting all those logic game videos to Youtube for anyone to see. This has been the main reason my LG score improved from like -15 to almost perfect every time.

Unlike written self-study material, I can play this guy in the car, at the gym, at work (sometimes), etc. and get a lot more studying done than I would have if those videos weren't available.

I previously used Powerscore Logic Games Bible, and was doing OK on that, but when I found these videos was when it all really started clicking because I could hear someone else talking about it and explaining it.

Thanks man!

Hello. In reaction to Prep Test 72 Game 4 pimp slapping me, I wanted to start a topic regarding unusual game types historically that may be of some benefit to review for Monday. Add to my list if you can think of any I haven't mentioned so I can go review them.

Multi-layer/Pattern Sequencing - NOPST clans, RSTVY giving speeches first, JKLM exchanging work pieces

Circular Area Games - Planes flying over Zendu, Hospitals and Jails in certain areas

Other/Matching - Subway lines 1-6 connecting Green, Park, Urstine, Zephyr Airlines, Translators speaking Yoruba and Swahili

Crazy Hard Normal Game Types - Toy Dinosaurs, Snakes/Lizards, Jasmine/Vijay/others getting off the bus

will post more up if/when I think of them

If you think you've found the right answer choice, do you feel it is still wise to read through the other answer choices carefully? And how much time would you spend reading through those other answer choices? This is assuming a real-life testing scenario.