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Hello 7sage! As always, thanks so much for all the help and resources.

I was wondering if there will be a price discount since the PDFs of LSAT questions are now all gone. I really want to enroll in the Ultimate course but its quite over my budget. Thanks!

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Hi all!

I desperately need your help! I planned for the February test, procrastinated and postponed it to June. After the winter break, I've decided to take LSAT really seriously and finished the core lessons with 7Sage. Now I have been through more than 10 pts but don't see anything above 161, though my highest br score is 174.

My final goal is at least to break 165.

I am not sure if I am ready to take the June test. But I don't think I should postpone again because I have studied for several months. Another three or four months may lead to burnt out, besides my internship starts in July.

However, I am graduating this May from grad school, lots of things going on before graduation. I doubt I will have enough time to score 170s consistently to feel ready for the June test.

Any suggestions/thoughts? Shall I take the June test anyway? Maybe cancel the score if I performed badly?

Thanks for your time!

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Hi All-

Shot in the dark...

Does anyone know of a "7Sage" type of online resource for learning to Code?

I used LSAT classes and books and even another online course before finding 7Sage and nothing has been better for learning the LSAT. I'm now trying to learn to Code, so as a shot in the dark, does anyone know of anything close to 7sage for coding?

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***I love to write, and I also happen to have a little knowledge about the LSAT and law school admissions generally. With JY’s blessing, I have decided that I will scratch my writing itch on a semi-regular basis by posting long-form blog-style pieces on the forums. If you have a topic that you’d like to see me write about, feel free to PM me. And please, discuss the piece freely in the comments below, especially if you disagree – I love to hear other viewpoints and am happy to engage in respectful and reasoned discourse.

Not a lot of people know this about me, but once upon a time, I was a Dance Dance Revolution fiend.

I picked it up around the year 2000 or so, when DDR was just starting to make a splash in the US market. At first, I was obviously awful at it, but I was enamored so I stuck with it. Eventually, I managed to become a pretty good player, though I never quite made it into the top tier.

When I was still developing my skills, there was a song called “MAX 300” that I made it my mission to beat. At that time, it was one of the two ‘boss’ songs in the game - songs that even the best players could barely beat, never mind score well on. Nowadays it’s a joke, but back then nobody had ever seen anything like it. For reference, a video of the song being played (not me, in case that wasn’t clear):

Pay particular attention about 1:15 into the video as the song approaches its midpoint, starting with the appearance of green ‘freeze’ arrows (which require you to hold down the arrows in question). After 366 steps in about 45 seconds, the song seems to be giving you a reprieve – an 8-count to catch your breath and rest a bit before launching into the second half of the song. How nice of them, right?

Wrong.

For most people, it’s much easier to stay in “the zone” once you’re already there, as opposed to having to find it from scratch. When you’re in a state of full concentration, it’s easier to maintain your thought process as you make your way through the task at hand. In DDR, once you get in the rhythm of parsing the arrows and stomping the appropriate arrows, you can essentially go on autopilot and play almost unconsciously, just reading and reacting. MAX 300, as hard as it was, was essentially just a stamina test – no weird rhythms, no tricky step patterns, just a straight up challenge to see if you could keep up. And indeed, many fairly average players were able to do so, at least for a while.

But, when they gave you those precious seconds to rest, all of a sudden you had time to realize that your lungs and thighs are burning and you can’t quite stand up straight or see clearly anymore. And when the steps started up again, you simply didn’t have the energy to keep up anymore. So, while it superficially looked like a gift from above, that break was actually one of the harder parts of the song – not just for the actual physical difficulty of going from full speed to a full stop and immediately back to full speed again, but also for the sheer psychological toll it took on the player in doing so.

That’s what the break in the LSAT does to you. If you’re not careful, you will spend the entire 15 minutes dwelling on things that you did wrong in the first half of the test. You’ll suddenly remember that you didn’t get much sleep the night before, or remember that you’re actually incredibly nervous because this is your third attempt and you REALLY don’t want to wait another year for another bite at the apple. You’ll spot that despondent test-taker (there’s always at least one) who’s already contemplating canceling his score due to bombing the first half of the test, and that’ll start you questioning how well you’re doing. You’ll hear some guy talking about how he got two RC sections, and panic because you could have SWORN that your experimental was that unusually difficult LR section. No matter which one of these happens to you, you’re sunk. Your mental game is torpedoed, and there’s only one thing that happens from there.

What DDR players took to doing during this break was doing something – anything – to stay active and maintain the beat and not allow themselves to be psyched out by the structure of the song. Take a look at this video for an example, around 1:04:

He could take a break, and it would likely be well-deserved, but instead he’s making additional work for himself in order to avoid taking that break. This allows him to continue on after the pause without a hitch, because he never actually stops what he’s doing – he’s “in the zone” even when he’s not explicitly required to be.

Treat the LSAT the same way. Test day is one monolithic entity, from the moment you wake up to the moment you exit that testing room, and you must maintain your focus at all times. The break is not a time for you to relax – it is a test of your ability to remain focused. During your practice, make sure to simulate your breaks, because they are not optional and they have the potential to completely derail you if you’re not used to taking them. Eventually, you’ll get used to maintaining your focus through the break, or at the very least quickly picking back up where you left off once the break is over.

My suggestion for the break is to maintain a low-level state of readiness. What I mean by that is that you should focus on some concepts that you know like the back of your hand, and keep yourself LSAT-engaged by using those concepts to occupy your mind. Recite all of the LR questions types, or play with some conditional translations and make sure you can go between all four groups fluently, or go over your strategy for tackling a particular section you haven’t seen yet, or even just run your personal highlight reel (we’ll talk about this some other time) through your head over and over again. The name of the game is to make sure that you’re not headed into section 4 cold – that you “hit the ground walking”, as I like to say.

Oh, and make sure to seek out a local DDR machine and pump some quarters into it during one of your study breaks. 15 years and many mixes later, it’s still a ton of fun.

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Please could you share your advice related to law school choices? I most likely want to work in SoCal after graduation and am accepted at UC Irvine, but because of rankings should I go with WashULaw in St. Louis instead? Personally I'm really impressed with Irvine going straight in at #30 and I love the feel of the place and community.

Also, I'm wait listed for Northwestern's accelerated JD program. Should I hold out as long as possible in case a slot opens up?

Thoughts?? -- Many thanks!

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I've been trying to improve the RC section for the last 4 months with little luck. I've tried a few notable methods, but I'm still consistently picking incorrect answer choices in every passage. I do pretty well on LG and LR however so I've been thinking of just allocating the time I'd use on the fourth passage to making sure the first three are perfect. Do you guys think this is a good idea?

I'm not sure what else I can do with RC. Thanks.

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http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-61-section-2-question-23/

So in JY's explanation the stimulus represents invalid argument form 4. But I'm having trouble seeing this. Had the second sentence read "most BRICK houses on river street with front yards also have two stories" it would have been a lot clearer to me. But it just says "most of the houses on river street that have front yards also have two stories" So presumably there could be 100 wooden houses on river street with front yards and only 5 brick houses. The 5 brick houses could have front yards but not two stories while the 100 wooden houses all have two stories. So I'm not sure how we are justified in claiming most brick houses with front yards have two stories. Very confused on this.

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I would like to know if there is a way to download the LSAT Prep-Test 1 through 35 on 7sage. Please I really wanna know this as the clock continues to tick for the April 21st deadline.

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Tomorrow, I’m entering the next phase of LSAT development:taking PTs under testing conditions. (Woohoo!) I’m wondering if there’s benefit to mixing up the order rather than taking them in sequential order. Given the recent posts about PTs getting harder in 50s and 60s, I figured it’d be better to get to that difficulty sooner rather than later and suffer a crisis of confidence. Any thoughts?

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Hello all! I hope your weekend is going well and you are given the time you need to focus on studying for the LSAT!

I was wondering if there was anyway to see the videos, even though I check the box that says "Do not save answers." As I mentioned in another thread, I haven't been able to finish PTs, so I do a lot of sections w/o completing exams. For example, 2 LR, 2 RC, next day 1LG 3 LR, and any other variation you can think of. Unfortunately after I BR, I can only see whether my initial answer/BR answer is correct but I can't watch the videos that explain why I'm right/wrong. Is this intended, going to be changed later, or am I just missing something and I can already watch the explanations? I do plan on having the whole PT scored, just not all at once. So because my BR and review is so staggered I was hoping to review questions without having to officially complete a PT.

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I don't know if anyone else has had this happen to them but the LSAT is two months away and I've been taking PTs for about 2-3 months now. I was working through the 40s and low 50s PTs and wanted to start moving into more recent ones so I'll have experience with those. I was scoring consistently in the high 160s and now on my last two PTs (PT 64 and 67) I scored a 159 and a 162. I'm baffled. I don't understand why all of the sudden I'm having so much trouble and it's really hurt my confidence. Has anyone else experienced this?

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Thank you so much 7sage for all of your LSAT prep! Thanks to you (and a hell of a whole lot of determination) I just received my first law school acceptance email after having just sent in my application 3 days ago! I swear that has to be a record or something. When I first received my February LSAT score, I was so depressed because it wasn't at all what I was expecting. I went to visit my pre-law advisor soon after having received my LSAT score to discuss it with her. After having told her my score and my cumulative GPA, she told me that I wouldn’t get into law school and that I should pick another career goal. Also, she told me that the LSAT score is a strong indicator of whether or not I will be a good lawyer in the future. In conclusion, she stated that I should go to graduate school instead and study public advocacy. By a matter of fact, she told me that I didn't need to go to graduate school; I could easily find a job in public advocacy without a Master's. I was even more depressed. My mother and I went to her boss to file a complaint about her employee. The boss and her colleague were just as condescending as she was! They told me that I shouldn't apply to law school for this fall and to wait until next year. They said that law school was a "number's game" and no one would accept me- even with my amazing writing skills. I told them "No" and that I would apply for this fall. (You should've seen their faces when my mother told them that her score was even lower than mine and that even she got into law school- priceless.) And now, thanks to my determination, I just received my first law school acceptance email! I can't wait to collect all of those acceptance letters to shove in that "advisor's" face. Never let anyone put you guys down! We are the future lawyers and we will make it! If at first you don't succeed, try, try again!

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Hey guys i'm trying to be a realist. I'm aiming for a 160 on the LSAT in June. I started out with a low diagnostic, 142. Since then I've improved about 10 points. it's been about 4 weeks, now I'm seeing PT's between 150-153. Is the jump from 150- 160 harder to attain? I've heard it takes a lot of hard work and months to go from 160-170. I am currently studying about 10 hours a week, then when school ends in mid-may I'm taking an in-class course through Nathan Fox LSAT. I will be able to commit around 25 hours a week a month before the June LSAT. Any tips/thoughts/advice/estimations/theories?

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Hi Everyone! I am new to the group. I am currently registered to take the June test and I have been studying since January. My studying materials consist of the LSAT Trainer and LSAT prep tests, and now 7Sage.

I am starting to feel really down because there has been no improvement in my score. The LSAT Trainer has helped me understand many things, but my speed and score has not improved. My score is still in the 140s. I am at that point where I am considering whether I am cut out for this. Regardless, I'll continue to do the best I can.

I have made up my mind to change my June test to September/October. And, I just signed up for one of the courses here.

I know my biggest problem is speed. I have not been able to answer all the questions in any of the sections in 35 minutes.

How do I get faster?

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When I'm too frustrated or feel unmotivated from the stress of life I watch this. This hits me because I use to be a football player but it applies to everything we want to be successful in.

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First off, I want to give a HUGE thanks to 7sage and the community members. JY's methods have helped me drastically. The community members have helped increase my understanding on questions that I found unclear, even after JY's videos explained everything. Before finding 7sage, the highest score I earned was a 149 (September 2014) (diagnostic was a 139). I had used Princeton (big NO NO), Kaplan (Also big NO NO), and powerscore. I then discovered 7sage and Lsathacks.com in early November and had seen huge improvements during the following months.

I was PTing around 165 a week before the February LSAT. I earned a disappointing (to me) 160 and applied to the University of South Carolina anyway (with low hopes of being accepted). About 3 days ago, I received a letter in the mail from the University of South Carolina, saying I was accepted. Today, I received a letter in the mail with a $10,000 scholarship (a little more than 1/8th of all three years' tuition).

I will be sitting again for the June LSAT, with hopes of earning at least a 165, so that I can negotiate a higher scholarship. It will be my third and final time taking the LSAT.

Just wanted to pass on words of encouragement. If I can do it, so can you! The climb from 139 to where I am sitting at now was NOT and easy one, but it CAN BE DONE!

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Thursday, Apr 16, 2015

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Does anyone know if the PDFs, after being downloaded, will be protected from being opened again? This might seem a little weird/ignorant but I simply want to make sure I can get them after being downloaded...

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Thursday, Apr 16, 2015

Hey guys...

Hey everyone! I haven't been on the forums as much because I realized I was spending more time on here than I should be (was sometimes getting in the way of my LSAT studying). So I'm here now and I want some opinions. I have not been taking FULL Tradition PTs, I've been taking sections and doing them all timed in different scenarios. For example, I'll take 3 LR sections and 1 RC and then BR those. Another day I may do 2 LG and 1 RC and 2 LR. I'm not sure why but this feels easier. Come the last 3-4 weeks of studying (when graduation is here and I don't need to worry about school/finals) I will take normal PTs (probably 2-4 a week) whatever time allows. A lot of personal stuff with family has been coming up among other things so I can never FULLY sit down for a FULL PT without getting interrupted :/.. With school finals/research papers, work, and etc. I just get too many interruptions >.<.. Do you think a month is enough to build a mental stamina?

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Many of you know that my mother was in town (Weds night of last week through Tues morning); that meant that I was only able to spend my morning time working on LSATs. It was a surreal experience to do things other than LSAT in the evenings (especially on Saturday which was not LSATurday but rather Cowtown-day as I was in Ft. Worth eating and looking at cows). I can't even remember the days when I used to ... what was it ... chill out? I guess I watched shows and stuff?

In the mornings during her visit, I mostly BR'ed LR, did some 7sage, some games here and there, and almost totally neglected RC. Why? Well, for one, I was off my routine. This was the first even moderately light week I've had since the first week of February. I see now the power of momentum: it was much easier to keep going every day when I'd been going like that for 6+ weeks.

I'm at a point now (generally) where I need to restructure my study schedule, but still keeping the 6–8am and 6pm–10pm blocks M/T/W/F (Th is morning + 5:30–7, 9–10 due to Bible study and Sat is LSATurday, typically about 14 hours).

This morning, I had a strange experience. I did an easy LG. It took me about 5 minutes longer than I usually take for that kind of game. It was like I still had proper running form but in slow motion. I feel almost like I've hit the reset button, and it will be interesting to see if this has gotten me out of some ruts, or whether I've really started to rust after a brief (!) vacation. I've got 2 more of these week-long "breaks" coming up (both are trips for work); I think I need to prepare ahead, decide exactly what I'm going to work on during those times, so that I can maintain some sense of routine.

What are some of your "break" experiences—namely returning from the break?

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So to see explanations from previous test questions, we have to upgrade to the ultimate package? I have the starter pack and I was trying to see explanation videos to questions I missed on the prep tests for blind review but it tells me I cant access that. Even though it says on the starter pack that 1000+ real lsat questions are explained. someone please explain which ones I can review. I'm thinking its only the 9 pts that came with the starter pack from pt 36-43. Anyone else who has the starter pack please let me know how this works. Thanks!

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Hey Everybody--

At 43, I'm probably one of the older (oldest)? Sagers, from 1999-2013 I sold legal research and related products to hundreds of law firms. (Thx West!)

Anyway, my college years were back in the early-mid 90's grunge years. So it was a while since I took an exam. I took the LSAT diag test and got punched, kicked and humiliated. I've never suffered from 'smartest guy in the room' syndrome but I expected to score better. And I just felt defeated.

Over the last 18 months or so, I've gone through the course-- twice. Due to necessity. Sorry for sounding like a greeting card but life didn't really care about my time frames and I had to put down the books for stretches of time.

While my timing and consistency need improvement, my highest practice test was in the high 150's. But I'm still not comfortable opening an official test booklet and thinking that I can replicate or improve upon that score.

I've got 30 recent prep tests printed and ready to take. But I don't want to burn any until I feel more prepared.

My study/prep plan is as follows so please let me know if it's a good one:

-print out the roughly 100 logic games tests and take each one as many times as necessary until it fits JY's time constraints

-2-3 per day feels reasonable, or 90 minutes, whichever comes first.

-full review, again, my formal logic, intersections, rule triggers, premise/conclusion ID's, and valid/invalid arg's etc.

-use older tests (7-18)--simultaneously with everything above- to test time constraints. of course, blind review.

-i'll try to prep a max of 2-3 hours daily-- more than that, i think will lead to burnout

-this should take me through early-mid-summer and have me taking prep tests from then until december

-sit for the december test--

I think the above schedule will allow me to hit my goal of 80 correct questions.

If a different schedule makes more sense, please let me know. Thanks Sagers......

Gregger

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Are people finding that the LSAT is harder in the 40s? I took some in the 50s and some in the 20s/30s and was within a consistent score range. I've taken multiple in the 40s and have seen my score drop by 4/5 points. FREAKING OUT since June is super close. HAALPPP

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