My PT's are usually in the mid-high 160s but I had a hard time with both the September and December LSATS- both similar tests with -12 curves.

The school I want to attend has a median GPA of 3.64 and LSAT score of 162. My GPA is 3.60 and LSAT score is 161. I was wondering if you guys think it is worth it to go for my final attempt in February. It is accepted and the school takes the highest score. Thanks.

Hey guys,

I was curious how often during an LR section do you try or prefer to write out the conditional logic?

Do you only do it when you generally HAVE to, or do you prefer it to simplify the situation at hand?

When you see a logical indicator do you immediately chart it, or does it ALWAYS depend on the question stem?

I'm wondering if I'm wasting time charting conditional statements when they aren't actually relevant.

Hey guys, another question!

I was curious, what methods, if any, do you guys generally like to take directly before you take a PT (or plan to do before the actual test) to not walk in on a test cold.

What I mean is, do you normally do a Logic game, to warm up? Read an RC passage? Nothing?

Just curious, as I generally do a logic game or two, and a couple LR questions to warm up. Regardless, I've seen a trend of -7 in the first LR, and then a -3/-0 in the second LR after ive 'warmed up' on the first section. Is it possible I should do more LR to bust in on the first LR section more effectively, or are my results merely due to a tendency for the test makers to make one LR section more difficult than the other? Am I in danger or doing to much before a test resulting in exhaustion?

Just curious about your warm up strategies!

I'm retaking the LSAT in February and am looking for someone to meet with a few times to study with and talk through some of the material. I'm located in Waukesha area but am willing to travel to Madison or Milwaukee area, or perhaps other places to meet at least a few times. Please message me if you live in the area. Thanks!

So I heard from a few people that Top Schools were sending them fee waivers to apply even though their LSAT scores were below (some even 5 points less) than the 25th percentile acceptances. Are these schools doing this on purpose to make applicants apply and just reject them so that their "stats" look good?

I'm trying to plan ahead and set goals accordingly as best I can. I hope to have my bachelor complete in 16 months, that would put me at entering law school in the fall of 2016. So with that being said, I could potentially submit applications late this year/early 2016, to start the fall term of 2016. So say that I apply and then determine that I possibly wouldn't finish my bachelor until the fall 2016 term at my undergrad school, then that would mean I couldn't enter law school until 2017. So if I applied to attend in 2016, and then ultimately could not due to not yet earning my bachelor, would I have to reapply again for a different semester/year? I hope that makes sense!

Need some advice here. I took the LSAT in October 2013 (canceled score), September 2014 (159), and December 2014 (159). Very disappointed, especially since I seem to be making the same stupid mistakes. I only signed up for 7sage between the September-December administration, so I really only had 6 weeks to prepare. I think that bit me in the ass when it came down to internalizing JY's method and the way that you need to think on the LSAT. I have a 3.7 GPA from an Ivy, some great softs, and am an old, non-traditional student, so I have a pretty good application other than the LSAT and I KNOW I can do better because I was PTing in the high 160s/low 170s. ARGHHHH.

So, my question. Does LSAC's 3 exams in 2 years limitiation mean that I can't take the lsat again in June 2014? Or do I have to wait until October 2014? Would love to know if anyone else knows...

First off 7sage logic game explanations are a Godsend. Logic games are the only section I really struggled with, but I am finally starting to feel semi confident on them with the help of 7sage.

My question is on the relevancy of old PTs. I bought a pack of 10 PTs from LSAC. I have taken 7, 9, and 10. Scoring 179, 170, and 173. The 170 after I ran out of time on a logic game and guessed 5 questions wrong. So I am feeling pretty confident for a Feb test, but I know these PTs are from the 90s. Am I in for a rude awakening when I start to deal with more recent tests?

Hi everyone!

So I got my score yesterday and am incredibly disappointed since it was substantially lower than what I was getting on practice tests. I have already registered for the February LSAT and plan on writing it because I have already submitted my applications for the 2015.

From the research that I've done, writing in February really doesn't put me in the greatest place considering that most acceptances are already sent out by the time the law schools will get my February scores and review my applications. I should also note that I applied to all of the Canadian law schools (who especially recommend writing earlier than February of the year you want acceptance) and US law schools (who seem to be a bit more flexible with the February LSAT because of the rolling admissions).

I was just wondering if anyone has any insight or advice of what I should do. I really don't want to delay another year of applying and this will be my last time writing the lsat so I need to make it count and if I only have a 5% chance of getting in, I may as well just wait until June to write it.

Hey guys,

Hope you all did well on December LSAT. Is anyone thinking about applying to Fordham or has already applied? I heard mixed reviews about acceptances and was wondering if anyone has some insight.

Thanks!

Hello fellow 7sagers,

I have pretty much decided to attend Cardozo Law and really like the idea of doing their Part time program and beginning 1L in May. In my opinion, getting a head start and spreading the first year over 3 semesters is a recipe for success, classes are smaller and taking 10 credits a semester versus 15 leaves more room to focus on each class.

My Mom, however, works for a nationally ranked law firm and has been advised that the big firms do not give as much weight to PT students as they do full time because they know that it might be easier.

I'm conflicted because I took classes in Undergrad all throughout the year in the Winter and Summer (I hate taking time off) and did very well.

What does everyone think? Is it worth risking perhaps a lower GPA just to go Full time when all the May start students will have to go full time anyway beginning in the 2L year?

Hello all,

I am planing on taking the LSAT for the 3rd and final time. Currently, I'm not sure which test date to sign up for. June is appealing because I can apply the first day apps are open, but I have to study during my final semester of UG and I am jaded with studying during school. I also feel like I will always wonder what I've could've done with those extra 3 months of prep.

Sept/Oct sounds more appealing because I'll have the whole summer to go hard studying and can take it light during this next semester. However, I can't apply as early, but it seems to me there's not much of a difference in admissions decisions/$$$ that early in the cycle.

Any input is appreciated. This also applies to when I'm going to buy the 7sage starter kit, as it only lasts 3 months.

Ok. Since taking the December LSAT, I have purchased the Premium package and have started studying again. I am aiming to write in June, but will push it back until October if I feel I am not ready.

I want to get my fundamentals down. I am taking each lesson slowly. I have all of the LR Cambridge packages, so I'm wondering.......

Since I've already written it. When I'm going through the lessons (the first one being MC questions), should I go through the lesson and then go through the Cambridge package afterwards, Blind Reviewing all the questions? Or should I just simply go through the lessons and then leave my Cambridge packages until I am writing practice exams?

Thanks :)

Hello,

I took the LSAT in September 2014, got a 145. From taking PTs, I knew before I took it that I wasn't going to do well but it was disappointing to say the least. It was lower than expected. For prep, I used primarily self-study with the PowerScore Bibles. I also used The LSAT Trainer sparingly. At the time, I thought PowerScore was geared towards my detail-oriented mind that tends to over-complicate things. But it turns out I learned that there is a point where it is too detailed and too complex even for me. I actually slacked off a lot the first time and I wasn't able to finish any of the books which I think further contributed to my score but I don't feel I understood the material well either. The experience was enough to realize I need simplicity. I registered for the 7Sage Starter course and started my prep work. I plan on upgrading in the near future to the 7Sage Ultimate course. I've been reading some in The LSAT Trainer as well. I just read the introduction and I'm already seeing things more clearly. And I'm thinking about digging into my PowerScore books and getting some of the Cambridge problem sets. My question is can I and should I use other prep companies or will that over complicate things?

I bought the 7sage Ultimate bundle, and I still am not able to review Prep Test 73. Am I missing something?

Can one use scrap paper or not during the LSAT? I have seen a couple of different things re: scrap paper... I took one PT and I thought it said no scrap paper.. and then reading an LSAT superprep book from the LSAC it provides advice on how to abbreviate or shorthand for your notes, is this just in terms of studying and not during the test?

I've signed up for the Premium plan and plan to study with 7sage (and other methods of self studying) for 6-7 months and then have a tutor for 3 months. I'll be taking the October 2015 test. I currently work at a top 3 NYC law firm as a paralegal, so I have long hours and a fairly unpredictable week. My plan is to leave work one day a week at 5:30 to study until 11 and then study on Sat/Sun each week.

Of course, I'm worried about burning out, but this elongated schedule is the only way I can see myself actually being able to get in enough time for studying.

A bit about what else will be in my application:

I gradated from a top 15 liberal arts school Summa Cum Laude with a 3.95 GPA, and I studied on a scholarship to Oxford for a year (my GPA was a bit lower at Oxford which will bring my overall down a tad). I have set myself up so that I have 0 concerns about getting in anywhere (great professor letters of rec, I'm a good writer, etc) based on all of that, but the LSAT is my kryptonite. I studied logic at Oxford and I still freak out when reviewing the test.

I'm dying to break 170. My eyes are set heavily on Stanford, but I also think UChicago, NYU, Berkeley, UMich would be good fits (obviously Yale and Harvard aren't out!)

Any and all advice is VERY welcome. Any advice from people with long schedules like this?

I'm not doing too bad on the PTs, not quite where I would love to be but I am definitely seeing improvement in my blind review scores. The problem is I consistently have about 5 problems leftover each section as the time runs out. I am becoming more accurate but not any faster. I was wondering if anyone had any tips or ideas on how to be quicker? Thanks!

Hi Guys,

Just got the Cambridge set for LR and RC. How would you recommend I drill those in the most time efficient manner. Should I do every single question?

Currently, Im just going through every single question but doing 1500+ questions for LR purposes might take too long.

Let me know what you guys think

Thanks for all the help

I took the LSAT and I didn't do well. Now I need methods on how to improve my score.

I was about to purchase a bunch of Cambridge packages for LR and LG, but I'm wondering... does anyone have any they want to pass along? I have a few I would be willing to share! MSS, Flaw, NA, SA, Point at Issue, Humanities passages, and Social Sciences passages (RC).

Not sure if we're allowed to do this, but if we are, is anyone willing?? E-mail me! Harrismegan@live.ca

Looking to form a group of serious LSATers in NYC. Please post your email info if you're interested in group PTs on weekends in preparation for the December (or Feb) LSAT. Also please feel free to suggest locations. In a previous post we were discussing room reservations at NYPL; there are also open public spaces in midtown. Looking forward to destroying the LSAT together!

EDIT: Email not needed. Just realized that we can have group conversations on this site. So just post that you're interested and I will add you to the conversation.

I got 7Sage for Christmas and began studying immediately after. My plan is to study for 6 months and then be as prepared as possible for the June LSAT and just in case I don't do as well as desired I still have the option for the October test. I was wondering if it is just a completely stupid idea to go and sit for the February LSAT even though I won't remotely be prepared enough - just to kind of get a feel for the environment so that I would be surprised by anything on the actual day of. The school I want to get in to only takes the top score so I wouldn't think that this could hurt me in any way, but I may be wrong. I was just wondering if anybody had any additional thoughts on this idea? Why it be good or bad? Thanks! - Mack

did everyone receive the score email?

I live in Canada (Alberta), and still have not received the email yet.

Any idea?

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I'm planning on sitting in June 2015 and I just began studying Dec 26, 2014. My raw score for the very first prep test that we were told to do was a 149 - so not too bad but definitely need to improve. I was just wondering how often I should be doing the practice tests. I'm in school full time and I work full time so I don't exactly have the 4 hours a day to study like this calls for, but I was just wondering if anyone had any advice on the best way to optimize my time??

Thanks!