Hey guys, I have a question if anyone is willing/able to shed some light on the matter

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I have just finished the power score bibles, and purchased every LSAT (actual officials ect) administered test. I have three months count down until my test date.

I may be wrong but it seems that the advice to redo the games over and over again until those exact inferences become second nature parallels that of every section on the LSAT no? It seems the lsat creators are testing for a very particular thing, and doubt that the tests deviate in the idea its testing too much (in recent years anyway)

So my question is, do you think it would be beneficial to select only say 25/30 recent tests and do them over and over again until Feb? Or should I do as many random tests as possible, while scrutinizing my wrong answers afterward to debunk areas of failure?

Also do you think the older logic games and tests are worthless? It seems they have changed so much that they might be relevant? or is the wisdom still inherent

Is it a good idea to avoid answer choices with the word "Some" for Strengthen/Weaken questions? Are these answer choices ever correct?

Hey guys hope everyone is doing well. I have a quick question about test day. On the actual test do they give you the Lsat scantron answer sheet separately or do we have to tear it out from the book ourselves? I'm only asking because I never tear it out the right away and always mess up the answer sheet. Thank you all!

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The proctor app asks me whether I am taking a four or five section practice test, and I know the real test has five with one being an experimental, but every practice test I have taken has only had four sections. Is there a way to add a fifth section to the practice tests that I don't know about? Also, have all of my PT scores been skewed due to always having one less section?

Hi.

I took the LSAT a year ago, and to study for that I took almost all of the recent prep tests. Now with only a few weeks left I am deciding whether I should take fresh tests that are much older (like 2003) or should I retake the tests that I already took last year, since they are more recent?

With the older tests, since I've never taken them I realize I can maybe get a better idea the accuracy of my score. But they also have a disadvantage because the test has changed over the years. Since it has been a year since I've taken the more recent tests, maybe I will have forgotten most of the material and it will just be vaguely familiar to me. But still, I don't know which is better! Any advice would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks!!

As we near the 2 weeks mark from the December LSAT, I, as sure as others, are wondering really how much can one expect to improve in this time? My last 4 PTs are 166, 161, 159, and 160. I really want to score 165+ consistently. Some people say you can improve immensely and others say maybe a couple points. What does everyone think?

Hey guys, hope everyone is doing well. This question may seem kind of odd, but I was wondering on the actual test day do they provide you with the answer sheet scantron separately or do we have to tear if off the test booklet ourselves? I'm asking because for some stupid reason every-time I tear off the answer sheet scantron from the test booklet when I do practice tests, I always mess it up somehow. Thank you!

Pretty much what the title says. I've consistently gotten 168s on the past 5/6 PTs and it's so frustrating when my BR score is in the 175+'s. Any advice on how to get over that hump for the next 2 weeks? I've been drilling my weaknesses using the cambridge packets which have been helpful but any other suggestions would be grand. In particular, I'm missing question types that I never used to miss (like resolve, parallel structure, etc.).

Thanks guys and happy studying!

Hey 7Sagers, got a question I thought you could help me answer! Here it is:

Would you please give me some suggestions on how to improve my score on timed PTs. When I take timed PTs, my score ranges 140-145. However, when I do blind review or take double time (such as 70 min instead of 35 min), my score goes up to 155-160. I have already taken about 15 PTs.

Since English is my 2nd language, I don't rush to under the stimulus better. If I rush a little bit, I miss a question for a little mistake, which I can avoid if I don't rush on it.

I post quite a bit, but I really do appreciate the advice.

I am deciding if I should write a prep test this evening.

I work full time, so right now I'm taking an old, timed, RC section every morning before work. On lunch I do one old, time, LG section and I review the 2 questions given as an intro. Yesterday I did both grouping questions.

My LG is usually 0 - -3 wrong, and I usually only get any wrong because I'm rushing... but I usually have like 10 minutes left at the end, so I know I can improve by taking my time.

My RC is anywhere from -3 - -10, but I find I consistently sit at a 7 or an 8. I know I can improve, which is why I drill them daily.

I know LR is the section that needs the most work.

Monday and Tuesday I went through old question types and drilled them by section (approx. 20) per SA, NA, PSA, Flaw, MC, MSS, MBT, MBF, ect.

I was planning on writing a prep test today after work, take a break, review 1-2 sections of it (most likely RC and LG since they take less time for me to review), review the rest Thursday, do some more review, and Friday (I have the day off), spend the day drilling concepts again.

I find that Flaw questions, and identifying the flaw, are the fundamentals of these arguments, so I bought the Cambridge package of 200+ flaw questions and planned on drilling them on Friday.

My question is.

Should I wait. Should I do some more drilling of the flaw questions tonight, Thursday do some more review, and then spend Friday writing it?

I know now that writing prep test after prep test isn't THE best study method, but I have quite a few left before the LSAT, and I view taking them as a good way to increase speed.

I don't know. :( I guess I just came down with a cold yesterday, so I don't know if waiting is best. But weekends are usually the old/best time for me to write practice exams, and I was already advised not to write one F/S/ and S.

Where do I start? I began my LSAT studies in April of this year, with a diagnostic of 146. I felt discouraged but I felt hopeful. However...after taking TWO LSATs, the highest score I received was a 149. I haven't been working full time for almost a year and a half trying to get into graduate school..not necessarily my choice but lots of pressure from my parents to get in and not worry about work. I had a decent work history before the big gap in employment, but now I feel like...just low. I am not dumb by any means, and I don't think that the LSAT is an indicator of intelligence, but I have always struggled on exams and in school in general, my SAT score was on the lower end and my GPA from UG is sub 3.0..mostly b's and c's. Right now I am completing applications that I am not confident about and I don't feel as though they reflect my true potential, but I feel option less-given you can only take the LSAT 3 times in 2 years and family pressure to get into school asap(I am also an older student-over 25). On the flip side, I do well when on the job front. I am desperate for advice and I'm sure from the outside my problem seems very clear cut- but I struggle to get past the fog.

PS I FULLY committed when prepping for the the LSAT- I took a in-person prep course and I studied for a minimum of 6 hours a day-most days I averaged 8-12 hours. I PUSHED. During this time, I tried to be discipline-no drinking, parties, lots of meditation/positive talks and very light volunteer service. The highest PT I got was 156- 2 days before the exam on the most recent test. Like I mentioned earlier, I struggle with confidence scholastically so I tried to prepare myself in so many aspects for the exam. On the night before the exam I made sure to go to bed at 9pm- and woke up almost 2 hours before the exam- ate a light breakfast..stayed overnight in a hotel for the test so walked to the test location. I completely skipped 2 questions on the exam...so I'm sure I was anxious. I feel like I did everything right--except the fact that this exam may just take time that I don't feel like I have. I took the most recent exams in case anyone is wondering. I don't want to give up on law school, as it was my dream in undergrad, and most of the jobs I've had since UG in would benefit from a JD. Please please help..any advice would be great.

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Hello, everyone!

I have been spending a lot of my time really grinding and mastering the LG section. I felt this section needed the most improvement, but I need some help with LR questions. Some sections I may get up to 12-13 wrong, while in other sections 3-5 wrong. I know the December LSAT is around the corner, and I really want to iron out some kinks. How did you get better at the LR sections? What was your approach? How much did you improve?

I also plan on implementing your methods with J.Y.s double blind studying. Cheers!

So I am taking the December test, I have studied all the material. I am not burned out but I am mentally tired. I want to take a break but I am little fearful that taking a couple of days off will take away from studying. Any thoughts?

Hey guys, so when I first took my first ever LSAT Diagnostic 4 months ago I got an embarrassing 127. However I'm now scoring around a 144-145ish. I've improved in both Logical Reasoning and Logic games obviously not to the point where I'm great at it but to the extent that I get about 15 questions give or take correct on each section. With all of this being said, My reading Comp section is by far the worst. For instance on some exams I get -21 and on others I get -18. My goal is not to get a 160 plus but rather to score atleast in the low 150's. Is there anybody that can give me some advice on how to tackle Reading Comp? I just flat out suck at LSAT Reading comp. I plan on taking the the Dec LSAT.

I've reviewed JY's lessons for Sufficient, Pseudo Sufficient, and Necessary Assumptions twice, but I'm still struggling a lot with these question types. I frequently get them wrong, particularly Sufficient Assumption, and it's really frustrating. Any advice on how to overcome this stumbling block? I feel like as soon as I improve on these question types, my overall LR score will improve immensely, so any help/suggestions would be immensely appreciated.

Hi Everyone. I started studying LSAT by using 7sage since June in the summer. I just started doing Prep Test last Monday. However, my first prep test is only 149 and my second prep test is only 147. I knew that I just started prep test, but 149 and 147? That almost broke my heart. I am usually good at logical games but I only got 15 out of 23 right in these two prep tests. I don't know why. Am I still hopeful to get over 166? Thank you guys. I will appreciate any advice.

I just ordered the LSATMax Analog Watch. Can we use this watch during the actual LSAT test or is it just for when practicing at home?

Regarding valid & Invalid arguments is there a list that outlines "Not flawed" arguments? For example, I know that conditional statement i.e.

A-->B

A

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B

if structured properly makes this a valid argument,

but are there other ways that the test-makers are testing for such as

causality...

The reason I ask is that from what I can tell so far, is that causality is a method that the test-makers use in the arguments, and yet, they are also flawed causality arguments and we are to find an answer choice that shows their error in the causal relationship.

So I'm using the term valid argument in this post loosely to better clarify my question.

Are there other methods the test-makers use to construct arguments or are there all going to be just conditional or causal?

Thanks

I feel like I know what everyone is going to say but please help me. I was scoring in the low 170s. I had worked my way up there, finally breaking the 160s. My last two tests have shows serious drops. This last test I took saw me at a 167. Now I recognize that this is a good score, I know that, but it is not my target. I am shooting for 170+. This was the worst reading comp section I have ever had. Normally I do extremely well there. I am not sure what I have done differently or what I can do differently. Should I take the week off? Should I double down on studying? Has anyone had the same thing happen to them and can recommend a course of action because I seem to have fallen back into the high 160 range and I desperately want to pull up from that.

The table game in PT 41 (Game 4) is pretty brutal. Anyone come across other super tough games? Want to be ready for this harder LG trend.

It seems I consistently make 1-3 LR confidence errors per test. If any of you have had this issue, how have you fixed it? Thanks for the help :)

With the December LSAT approaching, I have yet to reach the 170 mark. I sit between a 161-165. I know that's not ideal, but I'm still working to improve.

My LG is between 0 and -3.

My reading comp and LR suffer the most.

I'm just wondering if people have tips on how to best study for these from here on out.

For Reading Comp, I'm going to go through a full 35 minute 4 passage a day to improve upon technique/skill.

For LR.... I'm unsure. I consistently get from 4-7 wrong on each LR section. When I go through BR, I can get that number down, but I'm still consistently at least 3 wrong.

Should I focus on reviewing the question types (to which there is no specific pattern of *most types wrong*), or should I focus more on doing old, timed, sections? So I can work on under pressure circumstances. I think that's where I lack most. My mistakes are not reading correctly, rushing, ect.

I think I haven't grasped the whole "you should try and answer them right instead of answering them all" concept. Does anyone have a strategy for this? I find I'm weakest at NA, PF, and PR... should I just circle the Q when I see them, not attempt, and come back if I have time, or try to attempt?

Thanks!!

Hi All

Just made a mistake on a PT that cost me a personal best score - because I switched the choices when bubbling.

I'm already pretty vigilant and I do bubble in groups.

Any tips to avoid bubbling errors?