After 1 year+ of studying for the LSAT, I feel devastated. I just recieved my October LSAT score - 162. In January I got 162 (cancelled) -> 160 in September (cancelled) -> and now 162 again. I thought I could get at least a 165 and feel at a loss because clearly I haven't been studying right for the past year.

I am almost done with my law school applications and intend to apply in the next two weeks. Is it even worth registering for the January LSAT? I'm not sure how much I could improve by then and it would more be for the purpose of having a better score if I was waitlisted or for scholarships... Also, I'm abroad currently so can only take the January international exam.

I am SO done with this awful exam. BTW I am a split scorer - 3.92 GPA and 162 LSAT. I want to get into a T14/20.

What do I do now? Should I just give up and apply with my 162 and hope for the best? I genuinely don't know how I can improve and I just feel like I can't get this test right.

Hi everyone,

I was hoping if anyone can give me some clarity on a situation I am in.

I am applying to Law School right now with the goal of getting in for next September (Fall 2024). I am Canada based so a lot of my applications are actually due tonight (Nov 1st).

I wrote the Oct LSAT and I just got the score back today and I got a 154. This is OK, but I would like to aim for a higher score. I will be scheduling to write again in January, as that is the latest possible score most schools I am applying to take.

My situation is that I don't necessarily want the schools I am applying to, to consider this October score, and would prefer if they wait until my January score. I have the ability to cancel the score, so I don't know if I should cancel it, or is there some way to reach out to the schools and tell them to wait on my decision for a future score? I'm just unsure because I know sometimes a cancelled score can be considered a bad look, but I know I can work harder and do much better in January so I also think it might be worth it to take that risk.

Any help would be appreciated, thanks guys! :)

Hi all, just wondering how to access the V2 or the new curriculum? Thanks in advance!

I'm having a ton of trouble with the LR section. does anyone have advice?

I have completed a couple of drills but unable to view results. I will be glad if someone can please walk me through.

Does anyone else struggle with LG way more than LR and RC? I significantly improved on those sections, but I haven’t improved much on LG. It’s the one section that’s REALLY holding me back. So, I have a some questions.

For the games you have trouble with:

-How many times do you repeat them?

-How long do you wait between each repeat?

-When do you start timing yourself?

-When do you expect to get the game done in target time?

-More broadly, what is your LG study process?

My process is as follows:

I’m working on In/Out games right now. I’ll do the problem set on my own untimed. I’ll then watch the explanation video and set the game up like JY. I’ll compare my notations and diagramming to his. I’ll then rework the game question by question using the new setup. I’ll attempt each question again by myself and then watch JY explain it. After this, I’ll table the game for 1-2 days and then try it again on my own. It will be better at this point, but I usually don’t hit the target time.

Is this process effective? Is there anything I could do differently?

So,

I have been studying had for 2months, and I think I've done decent. I've got my self to a 165-168 range constantly. But this progress seems to have forzen over the last 3 weeks with me being locked in that range. With the mode being 167.

I'm constantly 0- -2 on the LG, -3/-5 RC, and always fucking -6 on LR. I used to be worse on RC, but that improved at the cost of the LR.

I think I may be struggling with LAWGIC, I'm not entirely sure. The def suggest I'm getting SA and NA wrong, 1 or more of each per test. but the rest is just all over the place.

FYI, I've done the loophole, which IMO did nothing for me. I've done the 7sage CC.

Any advice for a 2 3 question bump on LR by exam date. I'd love to crack 170, however doubtful.

Hey everyone, I've been reading and seeing some of the discussions and I've been seeing so many posts of people feeling very discouraged, sad, and I want to share advice to you guys that has helped me fight through this test. Something that I understood was that this test is not only testing my skill, but from several YouTube videos, articles and reddit threads it hit me that not only my skills are being tested, its me as a person, my discipline and confidence. I watched so many videos on how to study, how to prepare, and yes, the cringe advice of sleep and eat healthy will help, IT WORKS!

So, to go down the list that I have added to my study routine let's start with the first thing. (if you're able to do these things, hopefully they help you! I know not all of us are in the same situations, but making small tweaks to your routine can help)

Fix your sleep schedule. Please, it's not worth it to stay awake studying until 3:00 am, so the next day you wake up and start studying again you're falling asleep. Your sleep schedule impacts so many aspects of your life, respect it! You'll feel so much better.

Eat as healthy as you can. Not meaning to go in a diet, eating healthy its not targeted for weight loss. There are foods that make you feel sick, and bad, and they do not provide any benefit other than make you feel bad! I started meal prepping, and I started to check out all the foods that make me feel bad, because yes, you feeling exhausted, bloated, sad, can be distracting. I'll use myself as an example, I drink a to of water, like a lot. I am lactose intolerant, and also, allergic to gluten! I still eat some dairy, but its only cheese, and I try to find a cheese that its not as processed, and I found some great affordable options. Gluten, I don't eat as much foods with gluten, so that's not a problem. Right now, I am in the process of cutting off sugars (I won't at all, I love my lil treats) but my sugar consumption isn't as high as it used to be. And most importantly, caffeinated drinks. They give me anxiety, and I have enough, so I don't need stuff to accelerate it. Try to find foods that will make you feel energetic, that will give you enough carbs so your body can have the enough energy to LIVE! Another thing is that, I cut off foods that are high in sodium, it makes me feel sick, and in all honesty, I don't want any distractions on test day, my stomach can be one, any pain, gas, etc can be distracting, with anxiety I feel all my nervousness in my stomach (something that I am working on) but also, try to feel and eat clean. Find foods and make combinations that have a lot of nutrients, you'll feel so much better.

Create a routine. If you're able, I understand life can be hectic and some of us have more responsabilities than others. I am still working on my routine. Currently I have no responsibilities other than my dog. I was able to quit my job for a while, but I made the decision to push my test date so I could work, and study and don't feel super pressured. For me, I study for 3-4 hours daily. No more than 5h+. Allow yourself to have breaks during your study sessions, but no, the break doesn't mean grab your phone and go on TikTok. Means, go outside, or walk around, drink water, stretch, have a snack, go look at the sun idk. Personally, the routine has been making me feel so much better, and I make sure to give time to everything I needed. I'm also very flexible, life is not linear, but you will feel way more confident if you complete smalls tasks through your day.

CLEAN AND BE ORGANIZED. I can stress this enough! My aunt is a psychologist and she always told me that my spaces look like my mind looks. If my car was messy, my room was messy, it meant that I was and most of the time, I was going through something. I organized my room, cleaned my desk, my closet, and created a space for myself, to study, to write, to focus. I keep my car clean, and I try to keep as clean as I can, and of course I have fallouts, and it gets messy, but cleaning it, and seeing how nice and cleans looks encourages me to keep it that way. and I also feel better. I totally understand that not all of us are able to live in clean conditions, and have our own spaces, but if you're able, I recommend going to your public library, and good news! you don't spend money (bc yes, Starbucks isn't always the right place to study). You need a quiet space to be able to focus! and they also have some LSAT study books with resources for FREE, so you don't have to buy the books all the time, you can borrow them! (also, I looked up the power score bible books on FB Market and found even on $20 dollars each book).

Exercise, or just MOVE! Walk around, move, workout doesn't have to lifting weights (but they are amazing to help you focus, they had helped me so much to learn how to focus) it can be going down the stairs for 10 min, walking your dogs, using bags as weights, or simply do some stretching there are amazing 10 min stretch videos on YouTube to avoid back/neck/hip/waist/ pain. No need to go the gym (but if you can, slay girl yesss!)

pls, please TURN OFF YOUR PHONE WHILE YOU STUDY! ITS A DISTRACTION. My phone played a huge role in my waisting time! and yes, it cluttered my mind. I realized that how many information I was putting into my brain at 6:00 am, by watching TikTok or reels, and just all that content and all the emotions I was feeling, bc yes dog videos can make you emotional and then seeing a funny video and laugh, like going from sad to joy in 7 seconds its not normal, your brain needs time to feel all these EMOTIONS, and process them. I now only have one form of social media, and I am able to do other things to distract myself, and even DO ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, like we should learn HOW TO GET BORED AGAIN! Yes, those 5-10 minutes you spent just staring at the screen not doing anything important other than mindless scroling are not good for you. Get away from your phone and learn how to control that desire of always wanting to be distracted. Read a book before you go to sleep, 10 pages you'll go to sleep even faster if you don't like reading.

You'll not only feel good, you'll look even better. Studying for the lsat, if you choose to take care of yourself can come with a glow up. It took me a while to realize that this test could also make me a better human. I stopped seeing it as a test that was going to change my life, but an opportunity to be a better version of myself, because, you learn a new way to think, you're more agile, your comprehension skills are better. You are just getting better at being yourself. You are already smart, you're just insecure and afraid. Those thoughts are blocking you, because you are the only person that its stopping you into becoming an even better human, than you already are. I wasn't thought how to be a disciplined person, but I learned how to, and also a part of high school taught me how to because other conditions that are private. But it takes just one small thing to accomplish so you get everything done. Getting a low score in your diagnostic doesn't mean you won't have a huge increase, it's NORMAL. going down 1-2 points, ITS NORMAL. But it all depends on how you see it.

On the reading Power score LSAT bible, in chapter two in one corner says, "A positive attitude perhaps its the most underrated factor in LSAT success. Virtually all high scoring students expect to do well on the LSAT, and that this mindset helps them avoid distractions during the exam and overcome the adversity they might face" it also says, that "This upbeat mentality is something that all high-scorers embrace, and its something that you should strive to establish from the outset, as well.

It's not worth it to study and beat yourself up because you don't understand, stress is mind blocking. Don't block your mind, don't reject yourself, give yourself days to catch up on study in your schedule for me it was every Friday. Give yourself a break and don't say no to yourself. No one is going to make you reach a higher score. Hours of studying, tutoring, and obsessing won't matter if you're not in the right state of mind. Something I heard a lot from my LSAT professors is that, this is like learning on how to ride a bike, you fall so many times, and you get frustrated, and when nothing is working, you STOP, and BREATHE. you clear your mind and all of the sudden you're riding that bike, because unconsciously you found balance. If nothing is working, stop, relax, hug yourself, drink water and strike again. Be kind to yourself and remember, there are so many benefits from taking this test, its not about the score, its about what you learn, don't listen to trolls, statistics, or OTHER PEOPLES LIMITATIONS, they're not yours. and most importantly, don't be discourage and learn to separate yourself from the commentary. I love 7 sage, and I know some people here say stuff like, this is as hardest as it gets on the LSAT (when explaining some of the games) or saying, this is a stupid answer to pick. You're here to learn. You're not those words, there are people that can get extremely discourage from hearing this words, and NO, its not as hard as it gets, for learning there are not limits, I am extremely effective when doing some of the hybrid logic games, but when it comes to the simple sequencing I over think. Words are important, and it's just as important to learn how to control your mind. Some people might say that "realistically" the lsat is hard, or that you need to look at things realistically, but to me that word has never existed and it shouldn't for you. Life is amazing, and yes, life has different situations, and complications as you don't know mine, so, don't be angry or say, "oh she doesn't know hard work" or "she has no responsibilities" or "my life is hard", and like I said, I have also a life, relationships, and they were difficult, and once I learned how to calm my mind, because I realized that 80% of the reason that I was miserable, it was my mindset that made me miserable. (and yes, it can be like that) others, simply live in uncontrollable conditions, that affect them, but if you're studying for this test, and reading this, I hope you find something here that can bring to you some peace, or an answer, or courage. you're already brave enough when you made the decision to take the LSAT.

*sorry for the typos, or grammar errors, I got to excited and English is my second language so yes! I can't always type as fast as I think.

Thank you guys (3(/p)

probably a really stupid question.... But are there going to be more test dates in 2024? Right now there is only Feb, april, and june? If there are more test dates to be offered, when will they be posted? thanks.

Taking the November LSAT?

Taking an LSAT later and want to get a feel for the remote proctoring?

If you're ready to get more practice taking a full LSAT Prep Test under simulated online proctor conditions, you're in the right place. Here's how our Proctored PTs work:

You must register in advance using this link: https://7sage.zoom.us/meeting/register/tZ0oce2upz0jG9d76Ez4IiDjbFEI8Msi34BG.

Once you sign up, you'll receive an email from Zoom with the link to join the meeting.

Select a PT that you want to take for the proctored test. This can be any PT; we recommend one that you haven't seen yet and that is at least as recent as PT 50. You can take the PT through 7Sage, or, if you want to simulate real test-day conditions, you can log into LawHub and take it there.

Show up to the Zoom meeting 10 minutes before the scheduled start time (12:50 pm ET). You will all be prompted to complete a room scan (similar to the test-day security measures) at the same time and then put into a breakout room by yourself to complete the test.

Simulate the test! Our 7Sage Proctor will monitor the testing process for the duration of your test and even simulate a pesky interruption. The Proctor will ask if anyone would like to be interrupted at the beginning of the session, and you will have the chance to privately message your preference. If only the ProctorU proctors would be so kind as to ask! If you have any approved accommodations, please let us know via private chat at the beginning of the session as well––you will be able to test with those.

If you have any questions, please comment below or email bailey.luber@7sage.com. We hope to see you there!

Hello everyone! I just scheduled my November 2023 test date through Prometric and had a few little struggles, so I thought I'd share them and hopefully it will help you when signing up for test date.

I signed into my LSAC account about 10 minutes early and immediately clicked on scheduling. Do not wait right until the "allotted" scheduling time opens!!! I was early and still 260 in the queue. When I got through and imputed my desired date to see the available time, I selected one and hit "reserve time slot," but no confirmation text was sent. I found out that there were about 1.5k people in the queue, so it made sense that things were slow, but I started to panic. I decided to just call the Prometric help desk phone number and after a long wait of 20 minutes I was able to talk to someone. They confirmed that it does not look like my selected time was reserved and they helped me schedule my test. They were pretty helpful and quick.

So, basically enter the queue early and when in doubt, call Prometric!

I am trying to put In my scores but it won't let me put in both my logical reasoning sections. Do I only need to put in one of my logical reasoning sections?

I am finding that as I have been trying to increase my score and doing more practicing and studying my pt score keeps consistently going down two -to three points and I feel like I never can get above 150 I do not know why I can't seem to improve does anyone have any advice for burnout on the LSAT.

Hello, I have been studying for a little over a year for the exam my first ever practice test was 130 and over time, I have gotten myself to score consistently at 150, but I can't seem to get above that no matter how much I study or practice. Logic games were my worst section, so I am waiting till August to write. Logical reasoning is my best section and I usually get about 15-18 correct but I have been seeing fluctuations in those scores when I do practice test sections on powerscore. My reading comprehension, I get anywhere from 12-16 usually correct so it's not terrible, but there's room for improvement in both of these sections. I have already done private tutoring through 7sage it was very expensive and did not improve my score. I am starting to feel a bit helpless and feel like I have improved to my maximum potential on this exam and I need some advice.I try and study about ten hours a week doing drills and reading my books I always blind review and watch the explanation videos.I have been staying away from practice tests mainly doing drills and timed sections

Hi! I just used the new score converter tool to see what my last PT score would roughly be if it were the new test with no LG. To do so, I disregarded my missed points on LG and totaled my missed points on the 1 LR and 1 RC, which totalled to -11. According to the tool, that is a 168...

How can this be accurate? I scored a -8 on the Lg and a -7 on LR, so how could my score have jumped 10 whole points with no LG!??

I am drilling with sections of older prep tests (currently focusing on LR) by printing the test and working on the hard copy. I have since completed the section but I would like to review my answers and watch any explanation videos needed. How do I do so if I did not input my answers/complete the whole test on 7Sage's platform? Hope this question makes sense. Thanks!

Hiii,

Does anyone know if I would have any problem with jewelry policies if I have a permanent bracelet? I have a very thin bracelet that is welded shut so I can't just clip it off for the exam.

Thanks!

Hello.

I completed a drill and accidentally exited out when I was trying to compare my answers with a previous PT I took. Is there anyway to go back and find the answers of the drill I did? If that makes sense

Which laptop would be the best one to take LSAT?

I now have a MacBook and updated to macOS 14 Sonoma before the announcement that it is not supported was made. I checked with Apple tech support that it cannot be downgraded. Thus, I’m going to buy a new laptop (I had to buy one anyway) and would love to hear your suggestions! (No MacBook please though)

Also, would love to know if touchscreen laptop is allowed, such as Microsoft Surface Pro 9 or etc.

Not sure if anyone else feels like this, but I believe 7Sage’s decision to remove LG from CCv2 does a disservice to those who were currently using it to take the LSAT before August 2024.

I have been using CCv2 for its streamlined approach to LR. Now, I have to go back and forth between two different versions to access LG and new LR. I also have different sets of completion progress data due to using CCv2 for the majority of my studies. Not sure if this is unique to my profile, but it is very jarring and stressful to see sometimes. I’m not sure if this is just me and I should get used to it? Any tips?

Is it possible for 7Sage to include a CCv3 (CCv2+LG) or a feature that disables the logic games section for new LSAT test takers?

The website is faulty somehow. for a couple of days now it's been giving me an error message. and it is very slow. I know it is not my laptop because i used it for other things. Someone, please let me know it is not just me.

#help

Hello, I started the LSAT journey with 7sage two weeks ago. Upon hearing the removal of the Game section, I decided to take the exam after August 2024.

However, I noticed that the study schedule on the V2 (new curriculum) does not include Practice Tests which shortens the formulated prep time. I am unsure if this will be updated by the admin anytime soon or that we adjust on our own by simply adding the previous PTs to the schedule.

Thank you in advance for your feedbacks.

LSAC approved me for 50% extra time on both MC and writing, but I've only been practice testing with the 35 min split.

Should I switch over to practicing with 53 minutes per section? I figured it would be better to be accustomed to finishing within 35 minutes rather than take all 53 minutes.

Would one be more likely to make mistakes finishing (ideally) with 35-40 minutes and having extra time to go back? Or is it better to be more thorough with each question and finish within 50-53 minutes?

I have ADHD and GAD, and the timing/clock countdown gives me a lot anxiety.

I am looking through the syllabus on v2 format and I don't have access to the logic games anymore. Is that occurring for everyone? #help

I took the LSAT in October. I can get out of my mind anxious when I'm testing, to the point that I can't comprehend what I've even reading. I call it "seeing white". Anyway, I have stop/start breaks and I can't tell you how much it helped. I was able to stop the clock and swivel my chair around at any point during the test and just breathe. It wasn't even for a whole minute every time. I would just close my eyes, breath, and ground myself. I have a list of affirmations I've written I read to myself leading up to testing. During the test I'd say the ones to myself I remembered and it was super helpful. Anxiety freaking sucks and I know i'm not the only one who struggles so wanted to pass this along. Say what you will about my cheesy affirmations, everyone JY interviews who scores high talks about how important mental health is during this process. 🤓