Hello!

I'm looking for a small group of people to discuss and drill Logical Reasoning questions.

Anyone in the 160-170 range and taking the January LSAT, or another date for that matter, please shoot me a message and I will create one! I believe this group can help keep each other accountable and share helpful tips to truly excel at 4 or 5 star questions.

I'm trying to understand why did JY break the "contrapositive rule"when mapping out the first two rules?

Rule 1: If 2 C's and Min1 L same vote --> both moderates same vote

Then as his contrapositive, he just negated the sufficient and necessary without swapping their positions? I thought we are never allowed to do that.

For example, the typical contra positive is (A -> B) and (/B -> A)

But here he did (CC L same --> MM same) and (/CC L same --> /M same)

I understand the rule itself. If 2C and Min 1L are in, both M is in as well. And if either there is no 2C or min 1 L together, then the two Ms are floaters. Is this correct?

Admin Note: Edited title. Please use the format: "PT#.S#.Q# (G#) - brief description of question"

Explanation Video: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-7-section-2-game-3/

I have been studying logical reasoning for quite some time now and consistently get -8 wrong. I have been drilling daily and reviewing the questions and making sure they make sense to me. I planned to take the January test but now I'm feeling very discouraged. I don't think I can get a great score with this. Does anyone have any tips on how to improve on this section?

HELP

Hello, can someone please explain the difference between answer choice D and answer choice E? I am failing to see how they are different no matter how many times I look over the wording. I probably missed something or diagrammed it incorrectly, so I would love for someone to double check my work. Thank you!

The stimulus lawgic I wrote is:

/D --> J

/J --> D

D --> Q

J --> Q

Q

The lawgic I diagrammed for (D) is as follows:

/L --> K

/K --> L

L --> M

K --> M

M

(E) Lawgic:

/D --> S

/S --> D

D --> C

S ---> C

C

Thanks!

Having been on the LSAT journey for years, knowing how challenging this test is, and receiving support from so many people online, I promised myself that if I ever get my dream score (172+), I would pay it forward to others by helping them achieve their goals.

I finally did it... it's still surreal (all glory to God). I can help with the following:

Plz reach out if and only if you:

My diagnostic: 153 --> best score before Nov: 167 --> practice exam range: 169-178

How are important are these games for studying? Recently took PT 77 and I had trouble setting myself up for the game and got all the questions wrong and it took off a lot of time. Are misc games in the recent tests?

Can’t see the video, wants me to post a discussion first?

I just wanted to share a sub 170 success story for us non genius types haha.

I originally used Kahn Academy and had a 149 diagnostic, I was absolutely terrible at games… like -15. Somehow I heard about 7Sage and have been on here for over a year and a half.

I studied hard for 4 months and got 154 on Nov 202, even a with strong GPA that got me rejected from all 8 schools I applied to in Canada. That sucked ngl.

In late June 2022 I decided to use every bit of extra cash I had, and some frankly I didn’t have(shout out Visa lol) and put off any extra spending on vacations, sporting events, etc. to get sessions with a 7Sage tutor. This frankly made a huge difference in my ability to hone in on strong study habits and motivated me when I was struggling to find it within myself. I can’t recommend James Marmaduke with 7Sage enough, he gave me drills, a plan, and realistic feedback on my goals. I wanted to hit at least 160, preferably somewhere in the low to mid 160 range.

On October 2022 I scored a 160 which I was happy with. But I knew I could do a bit better based on my PTs and that my 160 would be borderline to get accepted to my first choice schools I am applying to with 163-164 Medians.

I took November’s exam and got a 163 which I am ecstatic about! It’s take a long time but I’m stoked to go from a 149 diagnostic to a 163.

I hope everyone got the scores they were looking for yesterday and best of luck to all the 7Sage ppl applying this cycle. This has been a great resource and a big part of that is the community. Hopefully someone in the 140s reads this and is inspired.

Cheers!

I've been studying about 5 months full time now, and I am consistently scoring -7/8 on every LR I do.

What should I do at this point to make a breakthrough?

Any advice would help! Thank you all!

A 145 diagnostic to a 162 in September to a 177 in November. Thank you J.Y. and 7 sage I still cannot believe it.

How can I do better on the Most Strongly Supported Questions?

I read the lesson on this topic and follow the steps to choose the best answer. But every time I think I’m doing well, I do the practice questions and end up doing poorly which discourages me even more.

I've heard you should not apply after holidays because of scholarships and acceptance chances. Curious what others think if I get in the 160s for January LSAT and apply in February for Fall 2023 class. At that point should I wait to apply earlier next year for the Fall 2024 class?

Currently working on MSS, and stumbled upon LSAT 69 Section 4, Question #9.

It has an answer choice that is wrong for the reason that it uses a 'mistaken reversal'. Can anyone explain to me what mistaken reversal is?

Thanks!!

Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-69-section-4-question-09/

I still have a lot of work to do, but I cracked the 150's on my first official LSAT. I am very pleased and this score will get me into my "safe school." Thank you 7sage:)

(Applying for the Fall 2023 cycle)

I've taken the LSAT three times. First in August of 2021 (cancelled score- was not ready AT ALL), second in November of 2021, got a 155 (median for my target schools, I'm fine with this score), and just took it again this November and ended up doing worse than my 155:( (I got a 152). I'm extremely heartbroken as I put my heart and soul into my study process, and ran into technical difficulties at the start of my exam which, although ProctorU was very helpful and responsive with resolving right away, definitely had me shaken up and a nervous reck during my first section (RC- ugh). My GPA is my strong-suit, also being the median/ slightly above the average at my targeted schools. My goal has never been to go to an Ivy/ top school, just one that is credible enough and will help me land a decent job (currently interested in Intellectual Property law/ real estate law)!

I have decided I am most likely not taking the exam a fourth time, as my 155 I'm fine with and am just afraid I could run into an even worse problem. Has anyone else been through a similar experience? I did purchase score preview- but would it look bad to have two cancelled LSAT scores? Should I go down the path of writing an Addendum? I understand the majority of people on here are now studying for the LSAT and may not be this far along in the process, but absolutely any advice/ insight with be greatly appreciated as I feel so lost and confused on what my next steps should be.

I personally feel like 7sage let me down. I studied as much as I could working full time. I took PTs, did drills, and still all for nothing. What do I do?

PLEASE HELP

So got the score for my first LSAT attempt for November and got 154. I am trying to get into Canadian law schools (within Ontario). I have a good GPA, 2 years of professional experiences that are relevant to law and my Personal Statement is strong. So here is the question: do I go with it or it's a score that won't get me anywhere?

Just trying to get my mind around deciding whether to try for Jan or not.

I hope everyone else did well and are happy with their score!

Cheers

Even with a terrible error during test day, performed well above my average. Thank you so much and good bye!!

This is just venting.... so bear with me (or vent with me)!

I took the October test and didn't get to finish the game section and it bothered me so much. I got a 165 and thought that score reflected my performance. Took the November test and walked away feeling like it was an average PT, not great but not bad either, but got a 165 again! I feel like there is such a mismatch vs my perceived performance. On PTs I've been scoring mostly 170-173, above 175 on half a dozen PTs. I'd be upset when I would occasionally score 167-169, which was low for me. If going by how I feel I did on the test I thought the November test would've been at least a 168-169. As in the lowest. I just don't know anymore and feel horrible.

Anyone else score way below what you PT at?

Hi, this will be my third time on the LSAT and have started applying to schools (they all know I am taking the LSAT in January). The past two times I got 143 and 147. I have severe test anxiety specifically for this lsat and have never experienced text anxiety for a test in university, grad school, anywhere. I guess I would say that logic’s reasoning is my strength, then reading comprehension, then logic games. I want to improve as much as I can and have made changes in my habits to help my anxiety including going on medication. Should I go about improving on all sections or just one? And what would be a reasonable expectation for a score increase?

I don't understand why B is correct. JY, make a explanation video real quick

Im trying to do these questions and they make zero sense to me, I cannot wrap my head around how you go about solving them. Ive also been doing the core curriculum with the explanation videos and I still can not comprehend, when explained the right answer choice makes sense but it does not make sense when I go to do it by myself.

I'm not being fully serious with my title, but I'm stumped. I have been studying inconsistently for about a year and a half. I've completed about 3/4th of the CC-- I should have come up the basic learning curve by now of simple identification of premise and conclusion. But in drilling/BR/wrong answer journal process, I've realized I am STILL misidentifying premise and conclusion. I'm feeling super discouraged. How am I still struggling with this?! I think what happened is I thought I understood the concept, went awhile unknowingly reinforcing bad habits, and now I'm in a bit of a rut. What now?! 😭

I understand why A is correct, but why is E wrong? Is it because E does the opposite of weaken and just strengthens the argument?