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I was consistently PTing in the low-mid 160s and BRing in the upper 160s. I just got my score back and it was 9 points lower than my most recent PT and two points lower than my August score. I am so discouraged and disappointed in myself. I know this test isn’t an intelligence test, but it sure feels like it. Going on over a year of studying and making gains right before this test, I was feeling so confident. I’m just at a loss for words and don’t know where to go from here. Sad.

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Got 161 at Oct 2020, Jan 2021 and oct 2021.

I feel like the whole year had been wasted.

I scored 168 on both of the newest PTs, and I feel really confident at the October test.

Anyways, congrats to all who get what you want.

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I am currently scoring around 172 with about -2 LR. People say the best way to learn is to teach, so I think if I explain my thought process in LR it will allow me finally close this gap. I could probably only be helpful for those scoring 164 and below. I'll probably be studying for a while today so feel free to stop by I'll just leave the zoom link here: https://nyu.zoom.us/j/9958274382

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Started studying in June 2021. Have been studying pretty hard, especially since August. My diagnostic in June was a 149. Knowing I had an uphill battle to get to my target grade by October/November 2021 (I need to apply this cycle for personal reasons) I studied my @ss off...

  • Read all of PowerScore Logic Games (in my diagnostic, LG was by far the worst as I barely got past the first game...)
  • Read all of the LSAT Trainer by Kim
  • Read quite a bit of LSAT Prep Plus from Kaplan. Not all.
  • Got into 7Sage in August. Went through most of core curriculum (I did skip over sections I was very comfortable with and PT-ing well on due to time constraints) and also started PT'ing like crazy.
  • Between August and October test I completed all PT's. Every single one.
  • Since October and now I have tried to rest up as I was fairly worn out but I'm registered for the November test (wanted a backup) and have started to get back into my studying.
  • I am now redoing my oldest PT's. I would estimate at this point I have done upward of 130 full-length PT's since June 2021.
  • My issue is I'm just not seeing improvement in LG. RC I typically get -0 to -2. LR, I'm between -0 and -4. Realistically, I don't think I can improve those sections a huge amount more between now and November and in any case I would not need to but...ugh, LG...

    LG I have achieved -0 before but it's kind of a freak occurrence. My all-time average is -5 but realistically I am very lucky to ever get below -4 and have, recently, got -7 on LG! I also typically always get -0 on Blind Review so it's not like I don't know what I'm doing, it just never quite goes smoothly on the timed sections, generally because I end up rushing at least one game or just falling for some trap answer. Or doing something dumb like splitting inappropriately. Kind of mistakes that I feel I should have overcome by now with this level of practice and stufy.

    I don't really struggle on any particular game type other than 'misc', a little, but I'm not sure how one can really work on a 'miscellaneous' game type, because it is miscellaneous. So yeah, I'm really at a loss, especially given how many folks seem to find this the easiest section to consistently perfect and I feel like if I can't get consistently to a -2 then the 170 goal is always going to be out of reach. The October test was brutal for me for LG.

    What REALLY annoys me is that this has been the case since at least September and I'm not sure what more I can do about it. I don't think I have time to re-do the curriculum or really spend a ton of time working on it because I work full time and definitely need to continue to maintain sharpness on the other sections so those don't slip. It's almost like I just need a little hack or 10 extra minutes or something. If only LSAC would give me accommodations!

    Anyway, mainly just venting ...nd sort of wondering if anyone else is in a similar boat? Or has perhaps got themselves out of said boat? I don't have the best GPA so the high LSAT is really important to me. I'm also an older student, otherwise I'd take a year and get a tutor ;)

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    Am I the only one who is genuinely feeling pooped after the OCT LSAT? I signed up for November but my studying has been almost non-existent since my test. I feel awful because I should've kept pushing but I've been studying since June 2020 and my brain is fried.

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    I am having a really hard time with RC. When I do full PT's and timed reading sections I am running out of time or rushing and getting -7 to -10 wrong. I definitely think that it is a timing issue because I have done 2 untimed reading sections and gotten -1 and -2. I am hoping to get down to -5 or less on RC in the next couple of weeks before the November test. What can I do to improve my timing? Any advice/tips/strategies is greatly appreciated! Thanks!

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    Can anyone explain to me how the new scoring is going to work and how I should prep for this with PTs? I'm registered for the November 13th test date and have been taking regular LSAT PTs. But I just realized that the new LSAT is a bit different and I have no idea how to adjust my score to reflect what I might actually get on the exam.

    On my latest PT, I scored a 162 with a raw score of 78/100. Now that the test will only be three graded sections, how will this change my score? How many can I count on being able to miss in order to get a 170?

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    Does anyone else read an LR stimulus, answer it with confidence immediately, and the pause and reread everything again and then change your original answer, But then, your original answer was correct?

    I have no idea what I created this habit weeks before the Nov. exam!

    .#IHATEMYLIFE

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    So Basically from my understanding B is correct because since the study were choosing paintings that were aesthetically better does not mean the other preschoolers artwork were displeasing or the experts work is necessary pleasing? Because it seems like the author is saying that because since the participates chose the the experts work over a preschoolers work he assumed that it abstracts expressionist work is pleasing over the preschoolers work which makes the preschoolers work displeasing which isn’t the case because it is no more pleasing than the experts painting? Am I correct with this? Cause I’m a bit confused on why this answer isn’t A.

    Admin Note: edited title; please use the format of "PT#.S#.Q#(P#) - [brief description]"

    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-86-section-1-question-16/

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    Hey just finished the retake!! Just wondering if the score for todays retakers will be released on 10/27 like everyone else or we will have to wait longer? Can't find anything on it just that the 10/14 - 10/17 retakers get their score on the 27th still.

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    I saw this on some LSAT prep book:

    Question: for example in a mistake necessary as sufficient question,

    Premise: If A then B.

    Conclusion: B therefore A.

    Given two answer choices

  • If A then B, and if B then C.
  • C, therefore A.

  • if A then B, not A, therefore not B.
  • Should we choose the one with additional premise or the one with contrapositive conclusion?

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    Hi all! I've been pondering this question for a while but still have trouble seeing why answer choices (B) and (D) are incorrect.

    I tried to supply polar answers to the questions posed in (B) and (D). My thought process was:

  • if woodcutters cut down a tiny amount/proportion of the trees, then monarch butterflies won't fall off, and the tour groups may have only committed a tiny mistake.
  • if woodcutters cut down a giant amount/proportion of the trees, then monarch butterflies will fall off, and the tour groups have indeed made a huge mistake in endangering the monarch butterfly population.
  • Any light you can shed on my thought process (and why it's incorrect) would be greatly appreciated! #help

    Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-27-section-4-question-06/

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    J.Y. starts the video off and seems to think it's obvious how to diagram the game, but when I did it, I was totally unsure and did three different types of diagrams (one where it's a single row of 5 slots, with each game piece having the lecture hall attached to it, such as OH, OG, etc.; another where it was two columns, one for G and another for H; and so on).

    There are several LG I've done where the set-up reads very similar to this one, yet the diagram was totally different in the solution.

    How can I identify this game type in the future and know how to diagram it immediately?

    Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-70-section-3-game-4/

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    I'm a bit confused about the last paragraph. It states that the soil that was taken from land that's been out of production for twenty years contains beneficial microorganisms in the first sentence but when I go further, it states that beneficial microorganisms are lacking (Lines 45-50) so which is it? I thought lines 45-50 supported D but then the first sentence contradicts D so idk what's going on.

    Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-65-section-3-passage-4-questions/

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    Hi everyone,

    Since I started studying for RC my scores have gone up a little, but not significantly because I don't put much practice time into them. I've made sure I know what each question is asking, how to figure out the main point and the essentials like that. Is my best bet for improvement through just hammering RC passages, like doing all the old ones? Thank you!

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    I thought on the LSAT, it was one cause per effect, not multiple causes per effect. Why is the correct answer acceptable in this instance? Shouldn't bulging disks be the ONLY cause of pain and not one of multiple potential factors? And I'm also confused by the use of the term "sufficient." Is this "sufficient" as in the causal sufficient (enough to cause pain) or the conditional sufficient or both?

    Bulging disks---> pain

    Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-62-section-4-question-19/

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