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Hi,

I took the LSAT today and had technical difficulties, therefore I was granted a retest. This was my first time taking the LSAT so I purchased Score Preview. According to LSAC, I cannot use Score Preview again since I am technically not a first time test taker.

Will I be able to see my score if I opt for the retest?

If I cancel my score and take the next offered LSAT will I be able to see my previous score and use Score Preview if necessary.

Lastly, as score preview cancellations counts as candidate cancel - do cancelations and retest count the original cancelled test as candidate cancel, or show no record of it? ... Will the test I took today be notated as cancelled, if I opt for the retest?

What do you think my best course of action is given that I have Score Preview? - Im thinking opt for retest since the technical issues definitely affected my score.

Thanks so much.

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Hey 7Sagers,

Here's the official November 2021 LSAT Discussion Thread.

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The following comments are okay 🙆‍♀️

  • the section on Cambodian woodworking really had me second guessing everything.
  • a few of the games had me confused but think I was okay.
  • overall fair test, struggled on a couple of RC passages (damn you polymorphic molecules) but think I was okay hoping for a -2 or -3
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  • the passage on Cambodian woodworking didn’t count.
  • I had Cambodian woodworking, Fireflies, and rice farming in Iowa so Lithuanian Lithograph Libraries was experimental.
  • fair test but struggled on a couple RC passages (polymorphic molecules anyone? Thankfully it didn’t count). Don’t want to take again in Jan
  • Anyone know if Polygamist Societies in the 1880s was real or experimental?
  • Please tell me that polygon dice game didn’t count
  • Good luck to everyone taking the November LSAT!

    **Please keep all discussions of the November 2021 LSAT here!**(/red)

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    Has anyone done this PT and have insight into how to solve this question? I understand why B is correct (the stimulus says that lemurs, which are lower primates, are the only primates indigenous to Madagascar), but I'm not sure why you cannot also infer A. The only living diurnal lower primates are certain species of lemurs, and higher primates evolved from a diurnal species of lower primate. Therefore, chimpanzee's, which are higher primates, evolved from lemurs.

    WAIT, I get it. If the stimulus said that the only diurnal lower primates (DLP) EVER were lemurs, then A would be correct. But, it actually says the only living DLPs are lemurs. Therefore, there could have been some other DLP in the past that was not a lemur from which chimpanzees evolved. So we cannot properly infer A!

    Posting in case anyone else needs an explanation because there are no official ones yet for this PT. Classic LSAT with the sneaky wording.

    Admin Note: Edited title. Please use the format: "PT#.S#.Q# - brief description of the question"

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    I have a random question LMAO! If in a grouping logic game the rule is: if W then T or F

    does that mean that if I have T or F in the yes/in group, I must have W as well

    or can I have T or F without the W

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    Took the LSAT yesterday. After my 10 minute break it took an additional 20 minutes for me to connect with a proctor and re-enter the test. I was terrified that something had gone wrong (I sent them a message every few minutes with zero response), but everything was smooth afterwards.

    Just wanted to let test takers know that this is a possibility to be prepared for!

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    Hi all

    I worked through the 7sage curriculum and saw a pretty huge score increase (143 diagnostic up to a high of 159, averaging high 150's now). Logical Reasoning is definitely my 'weak' point, especially factoring in there being two LR sections. I want to leave time to just do practice tests leading up to the exam. My question is, having done the LR portion of the curriculum in the summer, and starting out completely unfamiliar with the test, should I just go through the 7sage LR lessons again, or should I try out the Loophole? I really only have time for one.

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    Hey guys! I'm taking the test tomorrow and I'm quite excited to take it (believe it or not). What are some ways to maintain positive energy levels and motivation going into the test and during? For me what has worked the most is quick meditation early in the morning and treating the test like four section tests instead of viewing it as a daunting 3-hour exam. The first time I took the exam I was blindsided by the order of the first section and that feeling lingered onto the remaining sections. NEVER AGAIN!

    I'm going to do a few drills today and watch a movie and rest the remainder of the day.

    Sending everyone taking the November test positive energy and manifesting that we all reach our goal scores! All the best :)

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    Hi All,

    I had the chance to do an LR question again for a recent tutoring session and noticed a few things that could be helpful for your prep. One question I find a lot of students asking me is, "What do I do if I don't see the flaw?" Let's use this FLAW question as a model for possible approaches. (Try doing it on your own if you haven't. The answer is below)

    PT 59 S3 20:

    P: the lightest moths with the greatest contrast were most likely to be eaten

    C: therefore, the darkest moths were least likely to be eaten

    At first glance, the argument looks solid. If you're like me and don't know much about moths, you probably thought, "ok yeah of course dark moths would be more likely to survive than light moths...what's the issue? obviously, there's something I'm missing here."

    It'd be great if you can immediately diagnose the flaw (authors assumes a false dichotomy). But what do you do if you can't see the flaw? You gotta find ways to finesse!

    Let me suggest how:

    (1) Start with the big picture: Focus on improving your comprehension of the argument by simplifying it into your own words. The battle is always won in the stimulus, and an argument is always a conclusion being supported by premises. Make sure you get to the core of it.

    (2) Zoom in on the details: Next, look to the descriptor words and consider what is being compared to get your clues. At least for this particular question, ​the author is comparing the Darkest/Lightest moths, with the Greatest contrast, and arguing which among them is Most/Least likely to be eaten.

    These words indicate extremes--colors and probabilities. Hmm...if there is a darkest/lightest, then there has to be varying degrees of color in between, right?" HA I see it now! Before, I assumed that there was a dichotomy between ​dark vs light moths. Now I realize, oh! there has to be a spectrum between the darkest to lightest! There must to be moths of varying degrees of darkness and lightness in between. Perhaps grey shaded moths have higher rates of survival! Got it.

    And that's why D is the answer.

    How did we get here? We started with the big picture, zoomed in to the details, and focused on the most relevant parts of the argument to improve our comprehension, then found clues that led us to the flaw.

    I hope this helps you find new steps to take next time you're stuck wondering what to do next!

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    I am taking the test for the first time tomorrow at 2:40 and I'm not sure if I should take PT92+ just to have one more under my belt. Thoughts? Pros and Cons? Thank you all!! And good luck if you're taking November!

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    I've read through the comments and still don't really quite get it. Yes, I see people referencing to https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/why-is-or-so-confusing/, but that lesson barely touches on the nuances of "than either ... or" in a comparative context. Quite a few posters made inquiries on this, but there wasn't really any explanation given.

    Other than just taking this particular usage as axiomatic truth and accept that "than either ... or" in a comparative context (e.g. the parmigiano cheese is more expensive than either the cheddar cheese or the provolone cheese) necessarily means "and", how else can I digest all this? I'm curious, b/c the inference gleaned from that one stylistic choice has a big effect on the game (probably shaving at least 2 minutes for a particular question, if not helping to resolve the game board significantly).

    I should also mention that had the phrasing been along the lines of "more expensive than either of the other two cheeses" (as opposed to "better than either the cheddar or the provolone"), that would have also removed the ambiguity.

    Thanks in advance

    Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-44-section-3-game-3/

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    I'm currently focusing on RC and get about 8 to 10 wrong. I'm not sure what is the right way to review your wrong answers? Usually I'll just re-read the question and look at the right answer and say "oh, that makes sense". But I know that's not good enough. Any tips?

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    So the biological species concept is used by "lumpers," or people who like to group similar but different species together into one species, and is the idea that if there is no SIGNIFICANT interbreeding among members of different groups in the wild, then they should be considered distinct, or different, species because they are reproductively isolated.

    How do I differentiate between B and D? Both talk about interbreeding among members of a species...if members of two different populations do interbreed, what would a lumper do? Would he stuff them together? Is that why D is correct? But D doesn’t mention whether the populations are wild or not. In terms of question type would this be comparable to a mss question?

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    Does anyone have any tricks for getting this one correct with zero understanding of science? I skipped it and honestly would happily skip it again on the actual LSAT. I'm probably distracted by the science jargon but didn't want to waste time parsing it out. Is there a cookie cutter format under the jargon that I missed?

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    If anyone could give a breakdown for these two questions, it would help a lot! For #13, I was able to narrow it down to A and B but don't understand what makes B correct and A incorrect and I'm at a complete loss for Q22.

    For 13, I picked A because the passage presented markets as this self correcting thing. It showed how inside information seemed to just spread amongst investors and so I thought the situation in the question stem matched that as well.

    As for 14, I thought thermometer matched because the markets according to passage B just gauges majority opinion of investors but why does thermostat match passage A? And what is the difference between a typewriter and a word processor?

    For 22, I picked A thinking if it were difficult for international agreements to be put in place to protect endangered species, wouldn't that mean more species would bring about more endangered ones? E just doesn't make sense as an answer to me but it's correct so...

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    Im a little confused regarding this question. wouldn't B be a more accurate answer because the park ranger is saying people shouldn't get tickets for laws they don't know since they haven't don't a good job making the law known to the public? but after they do a better job making people aware of the new regulations they can start giving tickets?

    Admin Note: Edited the title. Please use the format: "PT#.S#.Q# - brief description of question"

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    I am at the point where I can set up the games well with my inferences and get through the questions and rarely miss, but I'm spending a lot of time doing so. I usually miss a whole game when I am doing timed sessions. Any advice on speeding up on my set up?

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    I thought B and C both worked. Wouldn't the first sentence explain why the public is so concerned about water issues when pollution is just as serious an issue?

    Could someone who go the question correct help?

    People be telling me the first sentence is a principle or it isn’t…which is it? Does any of this matter? Ugh.

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    I am taking the November LSAT and I keep seeing my score change, I cannot seem to get LR and RC down but more LR, my highest score has been a 149 and I need at least a 153 to get into the law school I want, what should I do?

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    LSAC informs me, I can perform my writing sample After my 11-14-21 test date. Granted they require x amount of time to authenticate.. but I don't have to waste any of my last remaining hours before test time (6:40 am)... fitting this in. Can anyone confirm this is correct?

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