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Is there any extra advice you can give me on weakening questions? I have researched them numerous times, but on the last problem sets I feel like I have been completely guessing. One thing I have learned has been to find the assumption, and if you are told to weaken the argument then state that assumption; however, if you are to strengthen the argument, find that assumption and your answer will be the choice that states it and clarifies it so it is no longer an issue. Even with this advice, I still cannot seem to do it. Maybe I am struggling with finding the assumption? Or maybe whenever I read the questions I get overwhelmed? Regardless, weakening questions are destroying me right now and I feel helpless.

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Hi all! I'm currently working on reviewing my timed practice sections and am noticing that I am really bad at getting sucked into time sink questions.

I am working on a list of 'queues' for myself to identify when to skip without even thinking about it, as I often find myself questioning 'should I skip now?' during a section; I want to work on building the reflex so I instinctively know to skip & don't have to think about it.

Personally for me - I've noticed that the moment I'm not engaging/clicking with a stimulus is a great moment to skip (though I still seem to have trouble doing it lol). I have also noticed that I absolutely despise anything LR question with abstract concepts about 'morality, or truth' that require some serious thought to actually understand.

Other than that, I'm finding it a bit hard to pinpoint 'signs' that will tell me if it's a 4/5 star LR question to know when to skip.

I would love to hear about everyone else's skipping strategies as well as things you look out for that give you a queue to move on and come back!

Hopefully this could help others as well.

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Wondering how all of you drilled valid and invalid argument forms. Wondering if I should make a quizlet, make myself a quiz? Wanted to know the most effective way and seek advice :) thanks so much

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Hi guys, wanted some advice. I just did the curriculum for parallel flaw and nearly got all of them wrong. Does anyone have any tips for these questions and flaws in general? They are giving me a lot of trouble and wanted to know how you guys drilled them and found success.

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Hey guys, I'm PTing around 145-155s and I was inquiring on how to maximize using 7Sage for LR/LG in the amount of time from now to the testing date. Essentially, which sections should I really be hitting etc. My goal score is 160s with a DREAM score in 170+. I'm using Powerscore LG and LSAT Trainer when I'm not by my computer as well.

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So I took a PT yesterday and I got the highest I ever got (a 166). I am very proud of myself but I didn't do as hot as I wanted on RC (7 wrong) and this is actually my best with an average of 8 on RC. I need someone to help me get my RC average down a little bit. Even untimed I can't dominate RC. Thanks! Hoping to pay in the range of $30-50 a session

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Wednesday, May 26, 2021

170?

I took a diagnostic on Khan Academy and scored a 160. I feel really good about how the curriculum has been going. Is it reasonable to think I could score 170+ by the August LSAT? I plan on studying 20-25/week until then.

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I'm taking my second LSAT in June and currently the thing holding me back from a 170+ score is my RC score. This is mostly super frustrating because I took the LSAT for the first time two years ago and it was my best section on paper. Just not seeing my previous success translate to the digital test. Any tips on how you all annotate (on your computer) or take notes (on paper) would be incredibly helpful. Currently scoring -6/-7, whereas my LG is -1/-2 and LR -2/-3.

Please help!

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If you finished core curriculum and are currently working through the pt’s with blind review, at what point can you just interrupt that process with drilling on specific weak areas?

Lg is still my weakest, and so after already doing the foolproof method on all the lg core curriculum, I was thinking I’d look through and try to do most of the types of games I’m weakest at based on the keyword 7sage groups them in. As long as I leave fresh full time pt’s to test and br with, that’s an ok approach right? I just worry because it diverges from the lesson plan. But lg is supposed to be the easiest to improve and so I feel I would get more of a return on investment putting most of my energy into that at this point

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would love some help on this! I've realized I am able to get 100% accuracy when I do LG sections untimed but when I do timed I usually miss about 5-7 (more often than not on the last game) and this especially happens when there is a misc game thrown into the loop.

I foolproof everyday but i was wondering if anyone has gone through something similar and how they improved it.

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Hi,

I have a question about how Lawgic is drawn out for LSAT 21 Section 2 Question 12 December 1996 test.

The line in the logical reasoning stimulus goes as, “Unless these techniques are implemented, erosion of productive topsoil cannot be controlled.”

JY Ping translated it into Lawgic as /I(implement) -> /C(controlled), or C -> I

However, my understanding is that the sentence should be re-written as, “Erosion of productive topsoil cannot be controlled unless these techniques are implemented.”

This line can be translated into /C -> /I since “unless” is a negate sufficient and “cannot” is negate necessary. Thus, C is negated due to “unless”, and I is negated due to “cannot.”

What am I doing wrong here?

Admin Note: Edited titled. Please use the format "PT#.S#.Q# - brief description of question"

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-21-section-2-question-12/

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Hello Sagers,

I have been perfecting logic games but the interesting thing that I am seeing is that on certain games my timing varies on how fast or slow I finish the game but my accuracy is there with going -0. Obviously getting the correct answers is most important. However, should I focus at all on the timing?

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Dear all,

I have a hard time to be fully convinced of why AC B is a necessary assumption.

I'm mostly disturbed by the phrase "most commonly grown". I would have interpreted the modifier "commonly grown" as the non-new potato strains, and then B would obviously be the correct answer (since, if the non-new strains could have produced the same yields as 20 years ago, it would wreck the argument). But isn't "most commonly grown" a modifier which indicate a subset of those non-new potato strains? If so, the negation of that assumption could still be compatible with the argument (e.g. if this subset comprised 55% of the potatoes 20 years ago, that is 55 million tons, then even if it did reach the 55 million tons the argument would still hold).

Thanks!

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Hey I'm back again with a dumb observation about one of these questions that I think is frustrating.

In this case we're talking about the fuel requirements for a space ship going to Mars (or its moon, Phobos).

The question premise states that the mission is manned, which, if you assume that all manned flights mandate return trips, leads you to the correct answer, E. This is not explicitly stated - it's a required assumption to arrive at this answer choice.

Now lets talk about answer choice D - the SHORTEST distance between Mars and is less than half the distance between Earth and Mars. There is one thing I can logically infer from this choice:

  • There is a non-zero distance between Phobos and Mars, and covering that distance would require fuel.
  • Now it's possible that the moon has a stationary orbit and is always further away from Earth than Mars, however, if I assume that orbits Mars, then it necessarily will reach a point where it is closer to Earth than Mars is. Or perhaps it does have a stationary orbit, and it is always closer to the Earth than Mars. Doesn't matter. All other considerations being equal, this would mean that reaching Phobos at it's closest point could possibly be closer than Mars at it's closest point.

    This inference assumes nothing outside of what is stated in the question - it's an inference based on the fact that there is a non-zero difference between the distance of Earth-Mars and the distance from Earth-Phobos.

    The correct answer requires an assumption - that the manned expedition requires a return trip. If we don't make this assumption, this answer resolves the discrepancy in no way.

    I realize that answer choice D does not provide objectively solid resolution to the discrepancy in the passage. In fact, the language seems to indicate that it does NOT resolve the discrepancy because it explicitly states that the distance between Phobos and Mars is less than half the distance between Earth and Mars, but the trip to Mars requires twice as much fuel than the trip to Phobos.

    My argument is this: We don't know what other considerations affect fuel consumption. We don't know if the manned mission is coming back to Earth. What I do know, is that I can logically infer that a greater distance traveled will lead to greater fuel consumption. The only way this is possible is if answer choice D is true - that there is a non-zero distance between Phobos and Mars.

    It seems unlikely that this question would appear on a modern LSAT - it's possible that one-way manned missions to Mars were simply outside of the realm of possibility when this question was written. Today that is not true. In fact, it is very possible that the first manned mission to Mars is one-way, but who knows - it's irrelevant in the context of the LSAT which is what makes this question so infuriating. At the end of the day, I'm not concerned with whether or not I get this question right, but rather whether my reasoning is sound. Overall, my argument is that this is just a bad question, with unsound answer choices - I wouldn't actually argue that they should change the correct answer to D as that would seem to be an unfair question due to the sheer weakness of the inference in resolving the discrepancy in the stimulus.

    I guess my question is would this question exist on an LSAT written today, and could this objection get it thrown out? I don't think E can be considered a correct answer unless they were to both eliminate choice D and replace it with an answer choice that in no way speaks to the distance between Phobos and Mars. Maybe I've been doing to much LR practice and I'm just losing my mind.

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    I got hit by a car while riding my bike. I’m good but my left arm had some severe trauma and needed two surgeries. I’m going to have some difficulties writing and I want to stick with the June test: I’ve been consistently PTing 170s and feel confident. Will LSAC accept a late accommodations request? If this even something warranting accommodations. Otherwise I might just suck it up buttercup.

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    Like the title suggests, one of my big weaknesses is the tendency to galaxy brain ACs - it leads me to change my answer (usually the right choice) to a wrong one. I always manage to convince myself that the answer I chose instinctively is incorrect, and I do get a couple of questions right after I go back for a second attempt.

    How do I avoid this going forward?

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    I just noticed that logically follows are listed under MBT questions. I've been approaching these questions as if I'm supposed to decipher what the speaker would be most likely to say, as opposed to what must be true...

    My question is: are logically follows really just MBT questions?

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    What type of flaw is this?

    Dean: The mathematics department at our university has said that it should be given the sole responsibility for teaching the course Social Sciences.

    Correct Answer choice B:

    "purports to refute a view by showing that one possible reason for that view is insufficient"

    Wording is a bit hard for me to understand. What type of flaw is this?

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    I got rid of C, D, E and chose A between A & B:

    "presumes, without providing justification, that expertise in a subject does not enable one to teach that subject well"

    I think the key deduction I should have made was that for A, the stimulus/argument does not talk about a subject being taught "well". So this should have clicked for me as a flaw that is out of scope.

    Admin note: edited title; please use the format of "PT#.S#.Q# - [brief description of question]"

    I deleted the rest of the stim because it is against our Forum Rules to post LSAT question verbatim on the Forum

    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-55-section-3-question-25/

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    Hi, I was wondering if I should redo as many games as I previously did leading up to test day? I feel like I should have made a list of key games that taught me inferences/lessons that transferred to other games, but I didn't :(

    Or should I speed through the 7sage core curriculum one more time before the test?

    Thx in advance :)

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    I'm taking the June 2021 LSAT and I know that I don't need to complete the writing section immediately after completing the test but I am wondering if there is a certain time that it needs to be completed by. I saw that it says my score will not be released until I complete the writing section. Score release date for the June test is July 1st, so can I complete the writing section any time before then and still receive my score on July 1st? Or will it push my score release date back the later that I complete the writing?

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    Hi all, general question for those preparing to take the June 2021 flex.

    I've been PTing using the regular 4-section format, mainly to expose myself to more LR questions. As test week approaches, I've considered PTing in the flex option to better simulate conditions (timing/burnout) on test day.

    Has anyone done this, or does anyone have general thoughts on this strategy? I'm interested to see what the community thinks about this as I try to tailor my approach in these last few weeks.

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