So I took a PT yesterday and I got the highest I ever got (a 166). I am very proud of myself but I didn't do as hot as I wanted on RC (7 wrong) and this is actually my best with an average of 8 on RC. I need someone to help me get my RC average down a little bit. Even untimed I can't dominate RC. Thanks! Hoping to pay in the range of $30-50 a session

I took a diagnostic on Khan Academy and scored a 160. I feel really good about how the curriculum has been going. Is it reasonable to think I could score 170+ by the August LSAT? I plan on studying 20-25/week until then.

I'm taking my second LSAT in June and currently the thing holding me back from a 170+ score is my RC score. This is mostly super frustrating because I took the LSAT for the first time two years ago and it was my best section on paper. Just not seeing my previous success translate to the digital test. Any tips on how you all annotate (on your computer) or take notes (on paper) would be incredibly helpful. Currently scoring -6/-7, whereas my LG is -1/-2 and LR -2/-3.

Please help!

Anyone know when we can sign up for time slot?

If you finished core curriculum and are currently working through the pt’s with blind review, at what point can you just interrupt that process with drilling on specific weak areas?

Lg is still my weakest, and so after already doing the foolproof method on all the lg core curriculum, I was thinking I’d look through and try to do most of the types of games I’m weakest at based on the keyword 7sage groups them in. As long as I leave fresh full time pt’s to test and br with, that’s an ok approach right? I just worry because it diverges from the lesson plan. But lg is supposed to be the easiest to improve and so I feel I would get more of a return on investment putting most of my energy into that at this point

would love some help on this! I've realized I am able to get 100% accuracy when I do LG sections untimed but when I do timed I usually miss about 5-7 (more often than not on the last game) and this especially happens when there is a misc game thrown into the loop.

I foolproof everyday but i was wondering if anyone has gone through something similar and how they improved it.

Hi,

I have a question about how Lawgic is drawn out for LSAT 21 Section 2 Question 12 December 1996 test.

The line in the logical reasoning stimulus goes as, “Unless these techniques are implemented, erosion of productive topsoil cannot be controlled.”

JY Ping translated it into Lawgic as /I(implement) -> /C(controlled), or C -> I

However, my understanding is that the sentence should be re-written as, “Erosion of productive topsoil cannot be controlled unless these techniques are implemented.”

This line can be translated into /C -> /I since “unless” is a negate sufficient and “cannot” is negate necessary. Thus, C is negated due to “unless”, and I is negated due to “cannot.”

What am I doing wrong here?

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Hello Sagers,

I have been perfecting logic games but the interesting thing that I am seeing is that on certain games my timing varies on how fast or slow I finish the game but my accuracy is there with going -0. Obviously getting the correct answers is most important. However, should I focus at all on the timing?

#help

Dear all,

I have a hard time to be fully convinced of why AC B is a necessary assumption.

I'm mostly disturbed by the phrase "most commonly grown". I would have interpreted the modifier "commonly grown" as the non-new potato strains, and then B would obviously be the correct answer (since, if the non-new strains could have produced the same yields as 20 years ago, it would wreck the argument). But isn't "most commonly grown" a modifier which indicate a subset of those non-new potato strains? If so, the negation of that assumption could still be compatible with the argument (e.g. if this subset comprised 55% of the potatoes 20 years ago, that is 55 million tons, then even if it did reach the 55 million tons the argument would still hold).

Thanks!

What days and times are available to take the LSAT? All I see on the website is it says starting August 14th. I would be interested in taking it closer to August 21st in the afternoon.

Hey I'm back again with a dumb observation about one of these questions that I think is frustrating.

In this case we're talking about the fuel requirements for a space ship going to Mars (or its moon, Phobos).

The question premise states that the mission is manned, which, if you assume that all manned flights mandate return trips, leads you to the correct answer, E. This is not explicitly stated - it's a required assumption to arrive at this answer choice.

Now lets talk about answer choice D - the SHORTEST distance between Mars and is less than half the distance between Earth and Mars. There is one thing I can logically infer from this choice:

Now it's possible that the moon has a stationary orbit and is always further away from Earth than Mars, however, if I assume that orbits Mars, then it necessarily will reach a point where it is closer to Earth than Mars is. Or perhaps it does have a stationary orbit, and it is always closer to the Earth than Mars. Doesn't matter. All other considerations being equal, this would mean that reaching Phobos at it's closest point could possibly be closer than Mars at it's closest point.

This inference assumes nothing outside of what is stated in the question - it's an inference based on the fact that there is a non-zero difference between the distance of Earth-Mars and the distance from Earth-Phobos.

The correct answer requires an assumption - that the manned expedition requires a return trip. If we don't make this assumption, this answer resolves the discrepancy in no way.

I realize that answer choice D does not provide objectively solid resolution to the discrepancy in the passage. In fact, the language seems to indicate that it does NOT resolve the discrepancy because it explicitly states that the distance between Phobos and Mars is less than half the distance between Earth and Mars, but the trip to Mars requires twice as much fuel than the trip to Phobos.

My argument is this: We don't know what other considerations affect fuel consumption. We don't know if the manned mission is coming back to Earth. What I do know, is that I can logically infer that a greater distance traveled will lead to greater fuel consumption. The only way this is possible is if answer choice D is true - that there is a non-zero distance between Phobos and Mars.

It seems unlikely that this question would appear on a modern LSAT - it's possible that one-way manned missions to Mars were simply outside of the realm of possibility when this question was written. Today that is not true. In fact, it is very possible that the first manned mission to Mars is one-way, but who knows - it's irrelevant in the context of the LSAT which is what makes this question so infuriating. At the end of the day, I'm not concerned with whether or not I get this question right, but rather whether my reasoning is sound. Overall, my argument is that this is just a bad question, with unsound answer choices - I wouldn't actually argue that they should change the correct answer to D as that would seem to be an unfair question due to the sheer weakness of the inference in resolving the discrepancy in the stimulus.

I guess my question is would this question exist on an LSAT written today, and could this objection get it thrown out? I don't think E can be considered a correct answer unless they were to both eliminate choice D and replace it with an answer choice that in no way speaks to the distance between Phobos and Mars. Maybe I've been doing to much LR practice and I'm just losing my mind.

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I got hit by a car while riding my bike. I’m good but my left arm had some severe trauma and needed two surgeries. I’m going to have some difficulties writing and I want to stick with the June test: I’ve been consistently PTing 170s and feel confident. Will LSAC accept a late accommodations request? If this even something warranting accommodations. Otherwise I might just suck it up buttercup.

Like the title suggests, one of my big weaknesses is the tendency to galaxy brain ACs - it leads me to change my answer (usually the right choice) to a wrong one. I always manage to convince myself that the answer I chose instinctively is incorrect, and I do get a couple of questions right after I go back for a second attempt.

How do I avoid this going forward?

I just noticed that logically follows are listed under MBT questions. I've been approaching these questions as if I'm supposed to decipher what the speaker would be most likely to say, as opposed to what must be true...

My question is: are logically follows really just MBT questions?

What type of flaw is this?

Dean: The mathematics department at our university has said that it should be given the sole responsibility for teaching the course Social Sciences.

Correct Answer choice B:

"purports to refute a view by showing that one possible reason for that view is insufficient"

Wording is a bit hard for me to understand. What type of flaw is this?

edit:

I got rid of C, D, E and chose A between A & B:

"presumes, without providing justification, that expertise in a subject does not enable one to teach that subject well"

I think the key deduction I should have made was that for A, the stimulus/argument does not talk about a subject being taught "well". So this should have clicked for me as a flaw that is out of scope.

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I deleted the rest of the stim because it is against our Forum Rules to post LSAT question verbatim on the Forum

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-55-section-3-question-25/

Hi, I was wondering if I should redo as many games as I previously did leading up to test day? I feel like I should have made a list of key games that taught me inferences/lessons that transferred to other games, but I didn't :(

Or should I speed through the 7sage core curriculum one more time before the test?

Thx in advance :)

I'm taking the June 2021 LSAT and I know that I don't need to complete the writing section immediately after completing the test but I am wondering if there is a certain time that it needs to be completed by. I saw that it says my score will not be released until I complete the writing section. Score release date for the June test is July 1st, so can I complete the writing section any time before then and still receive my score on July 1st? Or will it push my score release date back the later that I complete the writing?

I wan to know why the answer is B instead of other answers. All of the answers sounds the same

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Hi all, general question for those preparing to take the June 2021 flex.

I've been PTing using the regular 4-section format, mainly to expose myself to more LR questions. As test week approaches, I've considered PTing in the flex option to better simulate conditions (timing/burnout) on test day.

Has anyone done this, or does anyone have general thoughts on this strategy? I'm interested to see what the community thinks about this as I try to tailor my approach in these last few weeks.

Can someone help me to identify opponent's argument, since I don't see clearly where is a conclusion and where are premises. All I see is a set of premises with unstated(assumed) conclusion. Thank you!! #help

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Overall, I am not loving anything about the LSAT right now, but LG is leaving me hopeless. I'm taking the June test and have recently resumed studying after a semester filled with the effects from a family emergency, being an athlete, and taking 18 credits. RC is actually my best section right now, where I'm hovering around an average of -5. I decided to tackle LG as my next section to work on since many say it's the easiest and quickest to fix and I just do not have the time to fix LR. However, I quickly realized it was not going to come easy to me at all. I've read the discussion board, looked at forums, and even listened to the 7sage podcast for help, and while I've tried to do what many of these places suggest (practice endlessly until you recognize game types and get more comfortable) I'm not making any progress and am left in a discouraged heap at my desk. Does anyone have any advice or methods that worked for them? I'm truly at a loss and honestly feel stupid that I cannot fix what others resolve so easily. Thank you so much.

One of the "rules" that I have learned from Ellen Cassidy's loophole and just general LR practice is that we should be extremely weary of answer choices that say we "should" do something. For this specific question, I immediately picked D because it was very intuitive, but then I changed it and picked B which seems more positive than normative. My concern here is that no one said anything about what we "should" do, but rather what simply is. If the stimulus said something along the lines of "As it is our goal to improve the economy then........" I would have definitely not changed my answer. Does anyone have any thoughts on this?

Hope this make sense.

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Hi 7Sagers,

I am contemplating taking on a new review strategy that I have yet to see others suggest. During our BR, JY suggests that we review and intensively critique our answers for questions that we are not 100% confident in. I think I may take this a step further. I am considering opening a word document beside my answers and writing out why that answer is justified. I think this would FORCE me to review these questions in-depth, rather than idly passing by questions just so I can see my results.

Any ideas on how to refine this or create a separate strategy with similar intentions would be greatly appreciated!

EDIT: This is regarding PT4 S1 Q12 (LR question). I didn't realize that the "discuss" button makes a forum post.

I picked E because it was the only answer that made sense.

However, I don't see how it can be properly inferred from the passage. It's heavily implied, but it's not always true.

Basically, you can consider a situation where Leachate does not leak from a landfill because the landfill was not permeated by water, and thus leachate was never formed. Independently, the same landfill could exceed it's capacity to hold liquids. Maybe it's a landfill on Venus which is overflowing with molten iron, but there was no water present in the landfill to make Leachate in the first place. I realize that this is not something you can practically infer, but it does provide a logical exception to choice E and the LSAT is about finding the answer choice that has no logical exceptions.

Basically:

I wouldn't really be worried about missing this question - eventually I would settle on E as the only choice that could possibly make sense. But this question could be a huge time sink re-reading all of the other answer choices because you're positive you missed something and I'm not really sure how to avoid it.

I think my issue is that the question doesn't establish that leachate exists in all landfills, and that choice E makes a statement about all landfills, not just landfills that contain Leachate.

Am I crazy?

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When you guys take PTs, do you take the 4 section test or the 3 section FLEX?