Without coming off as too salty about it, why the unusually long break between the July LSAT and the release of the scores? I guess it is to examine inconsistencies between paper and digital. Perhaps it could be other data gathering, but I am curious to know.

Hello all,

I've been using 7Sage since February of this year. My goal is to get a 160. I took the November '18 LSAT after having studied with a Kaplan book for 6 weeks and got a 144. Knowing how much work needed to be done, I registered for 7Sage Ultimate+ this year and really took my time with the CC, attempted to really become fluent in logic, did all the practice sets, foolproofed LG, etc. After finishing the CC and doing PT's since June, I managed to raise my average score to around a 155-159. I initially only planned to take the Sept '19 LSAT but decided to take July as well knowing that I could cancel if I didn't like the score. Well I got my score back yesterday and got a 143. Yes, one point LOWER than my November LSAT. I have no clue what happened.

The test-taking conditions were really bad. There were no left-handed desks and the desks were extremely small, which meant the tablet took up over half the desk space and made it very challenging to do logic games. I also spent a lot of time trying to make sure the tablet wouldn't fall off the desk because it was so small. Combined with test-taking anxiety, I knew that likely I would score lower than my average on PT's but I did not know it was still in my ability to score THAT low. Naturally I'm extremely discouraged, but I'm forcing myself to move forward and keep studying. I'm hoping doing a few PT's this week will restore some of my confidence back.

I'm just wondering if there is still hope to get a decent score for the September test. My last PT from a few days ago was 157. I was hoping to get a 160 for September, but at this point I would be happy getting anything between a 155-160. I'm planning to take 2-3 PT a week, with blind review and foolproofing in between test days. Any advice and/or encouraging words would be greatly appreciated. Thank you so much!!

Hi All,

I completed the LSAT in July and scored 163. I was scoring 169 on my PT's but dont want to go through more LSAT study. I am an older applicant planning on applying and hoping for scholarships. My understanding is that my score is good for 5 years. I want to start school in 2022, and am thinking I should apply not this cycle, but next. Would there be any reason to apply this cycle and defer? I feel like it shouldnt be counted against me if my LSAT score is a year old. Im also hoping some more online schools start up. I just saw that UNH with IP started up this year whcih is exciting. Online will be my best option and that limits me currently to syracuse and UNH. There is also SMU which is in town, but would be full time and I would have to figure out a work schedule around it.

Any advice, thoughts, suggestions would be appreciated.

Hi all. Similar to many July test takers, I am debating whether or not to cancel. I scored a 163 and am pretty disappointed.

This was below my PT range leading up to the test, which was roughly 166-169. I have not scored that low since early on in my PT phase and I am confident if I took it again I would not score below 163. Furthermore, this score would put me out of contention for some schools I am really interested in. This is leaning me towards canceling.

I should also say I am signed up for the September LSAT and as of late I have had a bit of a breakthrough. On 4 PTs I took after the July test, I've scored a 169, two 171's, and a 170 - the first time I've ever scored into the 170's. Any thoughts would be much appreciated -- thanks as always 7sagers.

Keep your head up if you didn't get the score you were hoping for and use it as motivation for the next time around :)

Hey 7Sagers,

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I am trying to understand how to tackle reading comprehension blind review and practice drills for radical improvement. I do understand how the memory method is supposed to work as a process but I need to prioritize or do something. I find myself alternating with speed reading and not fully connecting referential phrasing dots to meet the 3 (mostly ends up being 4 1/2 minted still) then getting a poor understanding of the passage overall. Or reading for clarity as J.Y. does in explanation videos, trying to mimic real-time imagination strategies , then killing more time. Both resulting in about 10 to 13 minutes per passage. Which one do I prioritize? Should I focus on better reading then time will automatically fall in line with confidence? Or am I missing the point altogether? #help Pleaseee. Thank you in advance.

As the title says, I studied and took the LSAT 2 years ago or so, and got a 160/161 on my second and third LSATs, respectively. These were consecutive tests. I decided to continue working full time and take the LSAT at a later date, and since I wasn't in a rush, to try again for the law schools I wanted (close to T14). Well, come 2 years later, and my score on all of my practice tests with 7sage are all in the 160 range. 7sage is the third or fourth study material that I've used over the past couple years (LSAT trainer and some other stuff).

Is it worth it to take the September LSAT? Taking another LSAT at a different time isn't really an option, unfortunately :(

Please tell me what you think! I have plenty of other options for law school, so I still plan on applying no matter what.

Thanks!

LG has been by far my worst section, and I've been focusing on it the past few weeks. I've seen some improvement: I used to only be able to do the setup for 2-3 out of the 4 games, and now I can usually get the setup and most questions right, but I usually run out of time on the out-of-ordinary games.

I'm wondering if I'm full-proofing correctly? I was following the method in the CC, but when I go to re-do the games back-to-back, I'm not really sure I'm actually making the inferences. I usually can remember all the inferences, especially the ones I missed the first time around, but I'm not making them. Does that make sense? So I've started to do a timed section, and then full-proof for the next few days so that I can't just remember all the inferences, and I'm actually forcing myself to make them. Does anyone else experience this?

It's seems like from the CC we're supposed to do them over and over again, back to back, until we own the game. But if I do that, is it really benefiting me since most of the time I'm just remembering what I just did instead of actually making the inferences again?

Any advice would help. Thanks!

So I have been reading all the discussion posts on the July LSAT score release but decided to post one of my own. In short, my score was 150. I know I can do much better considering the fact that I had barely studied prior to taking the test and had not done a single prep test other than the diagnostic. That said, I am located in Canada and the deadline to apply to most law schools is November 1. I definitely plan on retaking the LSAT in November with more studying this time. However, my concern is the following: should I just keep the score and retake and then apply with the higher score? Or should I cancel and apply but with a pending LSAT score that will be released after I take it in November? Also, the law school in my city and which I plan on applying to in October typically accepts applicants with an LSAT average of 155 so I am not sure if my score will be of any help if I keep it. Your advice is really appreciated. Thank you :)

Got a 169 on July. Debating whether to cancel. Have a GPA in the mid 3.7s and am really hoping to get into a T6, which I don't see possible with a 169. I was hoping for 173+.

However, the 169 is something I can apply with, god forbid September doesn't work out. If I score 173+ in September would schools look down on the 169, or is it high enough that it wouldn't hurt me?

help Can you help me understand the conclusion and the answer choice of A.

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Question: in the sentence, "If you’re not greedy, you’re not a business school student" the two different conditional indicators confuse me: if I use "If" then I get /G-->/BS (Or BS-->G); however, if I use "not," then I can come out G-->BS (I negate the BS and make it the NC, and then I'm left with the G which become the SC and also has the SC indicator "If"). So, which one do I choose? I know the first way is correct, but I'm not sure why.

Is it the case that "If" overpowers "not", and "not" is merely a negation and not a logical indicator?

Hey guys,

I have been doing the fool proofing for games 1-35 and wanted to share what I do to save those trees.

I place two games in each sleeves (front and back). I do my drills like 45 mins as many as I can do. Note the time for each of them in the bottom corner. By the end of it. I erase the one that I need to redo and leave the ones I did good. This way you don't have to make 5 copies of each game. Just 1 copy and tadaaa!

I take the information and note it in a pdf sheet. This is a sample of the LG tracker. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1L3TW5io8o7AMCoBDLvSFr8HupWJqYynq/view?usp=sharing

Hope this helps!

Hi All-- I was wondering if November was too late to apply? I already took the LSAT once before, I sprained my ankle in the prep center but still took the test so I did terribly. Would November (which means scores/application in December) mean I'm getting into more competitive territory application wise? I've heard the later you apply the tougher your chances are. I've been out of undergrad/grad school for 5 years now and don't want to put law school off any longer so will be applying this year and just want to know if my chances would be slightly lower if I applied with November scores.

Thanks!

Hi there,

Is there a lesson as part of the CC where the process for approaching LR Evalutate questions is covered? If not is there a particular problem/ set of problems JY works through where he explains his strategy in detail?

Thanks yall

How to go about drilling LGs after having foolproofed Pt 1-35?

it's just occurred to me that we will not have the leisure of writing out the rules and trees on the digital LSAT as we did on paper. do proctors provide sheets for space to make markings or are we going to screwed? lol

Hi,

I am enjoying learning lsat through LSAT Trainer. I was not sure if I can post a question regarding the contents in that book. But I was too confused, so I came here for a help.

I am confused because I do not see the difference btw the two statements.

1.Mistakes necessary characteristics for sufficient ones, and falls to consider other factors necessary or potentially important to the conclusion.

2. Takes for granted that having characteristics important for an outcome is enough to reasonably expect that outcome.

Can I just all say that it confuses a necessary condition for a sufficient one? Its hard for me to see the subtle differences that the author made.

Hi everyone :). I would really appreciate some advice on the LR section of the LSAT. I have studied the LR section of the exam through 7 sage+ LSAT trainer. I have recently done around 5 sections untimed sections from multiple tests. I have been scoring around 15-16/25-26. I would really like to increase that score. I am wiring the exam in October and I want to get around 21-22 questions right under timed conditions. I was planning to keep doing full sections after sections till my score increases, and then time myself. I am also making sure that I read the explanation for why I am getting the questions wrong. I wanted some advice. Should I continue to do individual sections ? Or should I review the LR curriculum again ?

Thank You :)

Nimra

I am confused why B is not right? I was focus on the words "Tanner was more persuasive"

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Hey guys!

Here's the official July 2018 LSAT Discussion Thread. Please keep all discussions of the July 2018 LSAT here!

We know that everyone will be excited to discuss what was on the July 2018 LSAT, but here are some ground rules:

:warning: Don't mention specifics about the test! (e.g., "I got B for question 6" or "the 3rd LG was sequencing")

It can get both us and you in a lot of trouble!

:warning: Saying that the test was hard/easy is okay, but anything more specific is not okay!

:warning: The only exception: you can say which sections were real or experimental. For example, asking questions like “Was the LG with "flowers" experimental?” is okay. You can say “The LG section with "flowers" was real!” But you cannot say “the 3rd game of the real section was In/Out game.”

TL;DR: PLEASE don't talk specifics about July 2018 LSAT!

Have fun discussing!

Is it recommended to take the unclosed test? Am aiming to get into the 2020 session into the University of Toronto, so was planning to do the October test , so I had two more chances to take repeats for a better score. Any suggestions?

I have noticed recently that I almost always take a long time on the first game. For instance, if 7Sage indicates that the game should be completed in 7 minutes, then it would take me 2 minutes longer. Regardless of the game type, this has happened both during warm ups and full length PTs. I’m either taking too long to diagram or have to refer back to the game board multiple times when answering questions (less confident?) This in turn messes up my timing for the rest of the section where I feel rushed.

Does this happen to anyone else? And what would be a good strategy to fix it?

Hi! I took the June 5th test and got a 159, I was averaging around a 163 before the test.

I signed up for the July 15th test but I took a 3 week break and then couldnt get back up to my regular above 160 scores. So I withdrew and didnt take the test. The fact that I couldnt bring my score back up made me think that I have to review foundational information.

I want to take the test again, and would start studying around September 1st. I'll be working part time around 15 hrs a week and would like to get a165 or above if I retake. I think i have an OK foundational knowledge but would want to revisit material.

How do I know which test to aim for and which 7sage package to use? Should I combine this with any of the Power Score bibles?

How long does it take to get through 7sage’s lessons/course material?

Thank you!

I want to take the October LSAT, but the exam falls on a Monday. I have four classes every M/W/F at my college. I am wondering if taking this exam will count as an excused absence or unexcused? I know every college is different, but i'm wondering if anyone else has experienced this and what the outcome was. I'm worried because the LSAT will fall somewhere around my midterms, but I can't be sure until I get my syllabi for the classes next month. I want to make sure that if I do have to miss a midterm for the LSAT that it will count as excused and I will be able to take midterms later.

Please let me know if anyone has any idea because I cannot find the answer on my school's absence policy. Thanks!