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So this question is easy enough when I take a moment to write out the logic. Even so, I'd like some advice on how to attempt this without enough time to parse out and write down the logic of each answer choice until I get to the right one. Unless the rule of thumb is, just write it out. In which case, I'll continue to do so.

Thanks!

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Just took this PT and got wrecked... like... 13 points lower than how I did on PT 72. My last 4 or 5 PTs have all fallen within a 5 point spread, but this one pretty much matches my initial starting point with no studying :O :(

Did anybody else find this one particularly hard? I recognized I was struggling with LG as it was happening but I also got really low scores on LR, which are usually my most consistent sections. Any insights? HALP.

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In the video explanation for PT40, Game 3, why did JY set up the circle of cities out of order? We got the cities in the order of HMPTV, and yet when putting up the cities, he wrote them in the order of H M P V T starting with H at the top and going clockwise (notice that he switched the T and the V). Does anyone know why he did this? He didn't seem to explain that at the beginning of the video when he writes down the cities in that circle.

I suspect it was because with the way he wanted to note that H and T couldn't be connected and H and M couldn't be connected, his order allowed him to keep crossed out lines for the M H T at the top of the circle - which wouldn't interfere with drawing connections between the other cities. But if we did the cities in the order given, then in order to cross out the connection between H and T, that would visually interfere with making connections between some of the other cities, like between M and P, for example, since you'd have to draw a connection between M and P while that connection visually intersects with a crossed out connection between H and T. If that's the case, I understand visually why it makes sense, but I don't see how anyone would ever think to write the cities in that order unless they already knew the precise rules and inferences that were about to come up!

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My interpretation of the stimulus is that people who are allergic to cats react to certain proteins within the cat's skin and saliva though which particular proteins vary between people. Every cat is capable of causing some sort of allergic reaction in someone though a particular cat may cause a reaction in some but not others. I disliked all of the answers and ended up choosing (B) because it was the one I found the hardest to refute.

Could someone explain why it's (C)? I feel that the stimulus suggests it's possible all cats secrete the same proteins and that it's the allergy sufferers that vary in which protein they react thereby directly refuting (C). It's supported by the clause "...which particular proteins are responsible, however, varies from allergy sufferer to allergy sufferer..."

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Hi fam!

So, This is your straightforward Sufficient Assumption Question. If you have a moment you can work out the logic and make your way to a correct answer. Sometimes however, you can see the elements you need to bridge the gap without writing the logic down. In this instance, I read the stimulus and knew I needed an answer tying Success to companies purchasing the software.

Which bring me to my question: Is there a quick way of figuring out which of the elements needs to be sufficient and which necessary? Without writing out the logic chain that is. I think I read somewhere--though the person's explanation was somewhat hard to make out, that because Success is the sufficient condition in the conclusion, it is the sufficient condition in the answer we need. Does that sound right? And if so, can that understanding be used in other similar scenarios?

Thank you!

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Last comment monday, dec 31 2018

RC Timing Issues

I am having timing issues with RC. I don't think my issue is with understanding the passages because for the most part when I go back and review I understand what I'm reading. However, when I factor in the clock I feel so rushed and have trouble processing what I'm reading as time progresses, causing me to make stupid errors. I don't have this issue with LR. Has anyone else ever experienced this? Can anyone offer any tips for overcoming this problem?

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I understand for some people it can take up to a year to go from 140s to 160s. But is it normal to not show any improvement in Logical Reasoning sections after the first 10 timed Prep Tests?

During Blind Review I can get 20 correct out of 25. While taking timed Prep Tests I am only getting 11 correct. I do relatively well on the first 10 to 12 questions but after that I am a mess.

Timing is certainly an issue for me. But for the moment I am more concerned about getting as many questions correct as I can answer.

Right now I have the foundation to get 160 -165 during Blind Review. I’m just not performing well on Logical Reasoning sections when I set the timer.

Are there any techniques or exercises I can do to improve timed LR sections?

What sorts of drills should I be doing? And should I do them timed?

Any advice would be appreciated.

Happy New Years to everyone.

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Hi all! I was wondering if there might be a list of reading comp passages that were covered in CC? I am in the middle of RC drilling, but feel like that I keep coming across articles that I have read before when doing CC. I would like to avoid such repetition, so a list of articles that were covered by CC would be of utmost use! Thanks in advance to you all!

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Hello All.

Are there any of you studying for the January LSAT in the Pittsburgh, PA area? I took the test a few weeks ago and I am working on making a better showing of it in two months. I thought if there were a couple of other people in the area we could put together a local study group, like the group in NYC did/does.

Thanks

Chris

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How to diagnose LR errors

For any mistakes I make in RC, I can correct them because there is content in the passage that supports the answer choice and I can make a mental note of how to read more carefully and fix it. Sometimes there isn't much I can do in terms of learning to not repeat an RC error.

Same for LG, right now I am at -0 to -2 (highest) and I do not think I have an issue with LG and I can easily understand/not replicate errors.

But for LR, I am stumped. How do I make sure I do not repeat my errors? I do not have a particular question type where it happens. The errors seem random. All I know is that I have issues answering some 5* rated questions but I guess that's their point? That they are hard?

So in general, how to improve LR?

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Logic translation experiment

Hi all! I ran into a logic based MBT game in my lsat PT that quite honestly stumped me. So I want to present a version of it here in pure logic to see how my fellow 7 sagers work through it. This will make more sense in a bit:

All A's are X

All B's are X

If X is /Y then /Z

All Y Xs are C

Most Z Xs have F

In my opinion things start to get a little dicey at the If X is /Y then /Z but. So for starters, how would you translate this line into logic? Ignoring the statements that follow for now.

Thank you so much!

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Hey guys I recently graduated with a masters in legal studies this December so now I have nothing but free time. Though I have not taken a diagnostic or done any pretresting for the lsat I believe I’m good at logic games and reading comprehension.

Anyway do guys believe studying full-time for three months (6hrs/day) and using the 7Sage starter pack will be adequate for a high 160s to170 score. I have also purchased the newer lsac PTs (60-81)and will be drilling those newer PTs twice a week. Does anyone have tips or a daily schedule? Anything helps...

BTW I am applying for Fall 2019 admissions so taking it now is a must!

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Last comment friday, dec 28 2018

Claim vs Argument

On the LSAT is there a difference? I heard JY make a distinction in one of the videos (PT 57 explanations) and I am not sure if there is a major difference between the two. If you are asked to weaken or strengthen a claim, should it be treated the same way as an argument?

Thank you

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"If males are assigned to Veblen South, then Wisteria North is assigned males."

Can I take the contrapositive of this as such: "If Wisteria North is not assigned males, then Veblen South is not assigned males." And then translate that, since the only two options are (1) male and (2) female, to: "If Wisteria North is female, then Veblen South is female." ?

I watched the solution video and this wasn't explicitly explained in these terms, so I wanted to make sure this is correct. I guess the way JY set up the video kind of implied this, but in any case. Thanks in advance!

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Last comment friday, dec 28 2018

Tale of two halves

Hi everyone

I hope someone out there could shed some light on a problem I have been having. I took the November LSAT and plan to write in January too. During studying and actual tests for the LR sections my first 13 questions I do really good on like 11/13 where my last 12 I do horrible like 4/12. I have heard the hardest questions are in the middle of the section I do not know if this is false but I do not think it is simply because of the fact the easiest are first and the hardest last. If anyone could help me out or have experienced it themselves I would really appreciate the input.

Thanks

Kyle

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@Sami @"Cant Get Right" @NotMyName

Hey Sages, I've read about different methods of doing Cookie Cutter Review, but I was curious how you guys do it, and what method worked best for you guys. I think the community would benefit from y'all insight.

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Good Morning 7 Sage Community,

Hope everyone had a wonderful holiday. As I am making my way through the core curriculum I am considering signing up for the March 2019 LSAT as a type of practice run/PT/get comfortable with the testing environment. I then plan on taking the June 2019 test as well. I am looking to apply in the Fall 2019 for enrollment in Fall 2020 and I want to give myself the best chance at scoring well. Obviously is things dont go as planned I do have the later 2019 tests which I am open to taking as well but the goal is to be in a position to apply early with a great score.

From listening to the 7sage podcasts I have ben hearing the common theme of if you are taking the lsat, plan on taking it more than once to be the most successful. And some of the most successful have taken it 3+ times in some cases.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this or experience in a similar way? Thanks again.

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So for the past couple of PTs I took, I always did well on the first LR section (avg -2) and got a couple more wrong on the second LR section (avg -4 to even -6). I noticed that on the second LR I get even some of the easiest questions wrong. This doesn't happen when I take a long break between my first LR and second LR. Also, I tried taking the second LR first and the first LR later, and the same thing happened. I scored better on the first LR section I took, even though it was technically the second LR section. I'm assuming this is because I get worn out and lose concentration. Any advice on how to fix this?

P.S. My LR BR score is about -2 in total.

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Just curious, I've been doing cookie cutter review and was wondering if this was a pattern that anyone noticed in LR stimulus. For instance, the stimulus would talk about the effectiveness of a product, then it will have answer choice about probability or likelihood of something happening but it's a trap answer. Anyone want to share?

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I've noticed that in some videos, JY says this RC passage should take 7 minutes, etc - and in others he doesn't.

Is there a way or any info where we can see JY's recommended time for RC passages -- similar to what he does for LG?

I feel this will be helpful for RC, because time management is so tough and crucial in RC, and because there definitely are (similar to LG) easier RC passages and harder RC passages, and knowing when you should pace oneself more quickly through an easier RC passages is so important.

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For RC, when you skip/circle a question, do you come back to that skipped/circled question once you finish all the 7 or 8 questions in that section, or do you come back at the very end of the section (once you've completed all the other 26 questions).

i think there are pros and cons of each.

For the first approach (coming back after you finished the 7 questions in that passage), there's a concern that not enough time has passed to let that question "subtly process" in your brain. Also, there's the concern that you still have to do like the other questions in the passage, and so you may get time sucked into that 1 question even more such that you don't have enough time to do the other questions.

For the second approach (coming back after you finish the entire 27 question section), there's the concern that after having done 2-3 more passages, when you go back to that question, your mind wouldn't be as "fresh" because you just did other passages.

Idk those are just some of my thoughts.

Any advice or suggestions appreciated.

Thanks!

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