Hi everyone! I hope you are doing well and staying safe.

My reading comprehension skills have significantly worsened after following the strategies outlined by both 7Sage and Powerscore. I find myself to be struggling the most with Main Point/Most Strongly Supported Questions on Reading Comprehension. If you have any suggestions for resources or strategy recommendations, please let me know. I am really struggling, so any and all help is greatly appreciated.

Figured out

Hi 7sagers,

I had a quick question regarding RC. Something I've noticed when I'm doing RC is that on trickier problems, I almost always am able to eliminate the answers down to two answer choices, and at this point, I know one is the right answer and the other one is a trap answer.

Here is an example of a situation I'm talking about -

on PT51 Passage 4 Q27, I KNEW the answer was between b) and d), and it was just a matter of choosing the answer choice that's supported by the text. (right answer is d), I chose b)).

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-55-section-2-passage-4-questions/

I realized this happens on many questions on RC where I am able to eliminate the answers down to two choices but fall for the trap answer about 80% of the time.

I wanted to ask the 7sage community if you have any tips when you are faced with this situation of having to choose between one right answer and one trap answer! Do you go back to the text to find support? How do you "logic" it out?

I took my LSAT this morning at 10:20. The proctor set up was easy. I didn’t have a trouble with you games but I don’t feel like I truly did my best. It could’ve been from nerves or it could’ve truly been just finding difficulties in the questions. Once I was done with the test though it was a whole different frustration. My proctor Musta got disconnected during the middle of my test and while I was taking the test I never noticed until I got on to the finished page. I could not check out without a proctor for the recording to finish and had to reach out to proctorU. Did anyone have the same issue?

Hi,

So while I did understand why the wrong answer choices were wrong here, I had trouble understanding why E was right. Can anyone explain their reasoning here?

The reason I had trouble understanding why E was right was because I didn't really know what was the difference between "subjective association" and "possession of concept". I thought that a "subjective association" had to be an association that people made based on their "subjective" (aka personal) opinion, but I didn't see any personal opinion in passage A-- I saw people basing their opinion from the connotations in the languages themselves, not from their unique thoughts/experiences.

In addition, "whereas" in answer choice E indicates contrast between "subjective association" and "possession of concept" yet, from my perspective, it seems like people holding a masculine view of a violin and people holding a rough view of numerical values both seem like "possessions of concepts"-- they are both opinions that people hold.

So how is E right?

Any #help would be appreciated!

Thanks!

Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-89-section-3-passage-4-questions/

Hey guys, sorry for asking but does anyone have a spreadsheet or any advice on the group 1, 2 and 3 groups for the necessary and sufficient conditions. I often get confused and as a result I end up doing poorly on parallel questions. Specifically LSAT prep 37 Section 2 Question 26 destroyed my soul. If you guys can give me any tips or a spread sheet or online source that can dumb it down for me id really appreciate it.

Thank you in advance for those that decide to respond :)

#help I have been trying to come up with the best way to approach these RC questions, especially the ones I get wrong. I have reverted back to Phase 1 in the memory method after doing not so well on a few of the RC passages. For the questions you get wrong, how do you go about tackling them? Should I be analyzing the passage on my own then going and watching JY’s analysis to realize what I have missed before I start the question? Should I just power through and then watch his analysis and questions after I do it on my own? I feel like its much harder to correct my way of thinking for RC questions than for the other two sections and not really sure what my “plan of action” should be. Thanks!

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I'm hoping to apply this cycle, and I'm trying to strategically pick between the August, October, and November test dates, knowing that I want to give myself the option of taking the test a few times. LG is my best section, and I'm wondering if the weight of the August test should be a factor in my decision.

Any advice or inspiration or solidarity would be greatly appreciated. I'm feeling very down on myself for poor performance these past few weeks, and I really had my heart set on applying this cycle. Do ya'll recommend just resetting expectations for next year to save myself heartache and disappointment? I just turned 25 and am feeling a little existential about being too old to start law school in another two years, and staying in a toxic job for an extra year before starting school.

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Hi guys are we supposed to be taking all the practice sets at the end of LR or taking one and saving them to come back to. I did the first two and i was going to finish it but then i read discussion posts saying not to do that.

Hello everyone,

I have spent the past 10 days focusing mostly on RC. I am having a great deal of trouble with this section. JY's low-res summary has not helped me one bit. I am having great troubles understanding the passage before moving into the questions. I have started looking into possible tutors to help develop strategies that will help me. I had a call with a company called "Varsity Tutors" today, they gave me a quote of $1200 for 12 hours of 1 on 1 instruction time. The price seems absolutely ludicrous given the amount of supervision.

I'm feeling defeated at this point, and any help would be greatly appreciated

I usually got -4 to -6 on RC, and -4 on the rest of other sections on PTs. I have significant improvement on the other two sections following blind review method, but Reading Comprehension is the section that I found no improvement after 2 months of full-time studying.

I saw people mentioned to figure out the relationships between various subjects and opinions and to anticipate the answer after reading question stems, but I found it very difficult to do so. I usually can get a fair understanding on the structure and any shifts from paragraph to paragraph, but I found it insufficient to answer inference questions.

There are usually at least 3-4 different subjects and opinions in a passage. The relationships among them are extremely difficult to keep track of. For difficult passages, the subject matters and different people's opinions themselves are difficult to understand, not to mention handling their relationships with each other. For example, in a passage (PT30, S3, P2) there is a debate going on about Greek Dramas tragedies written by an author X, and 3 scholars give different and distinct opinions on what lead to the consequences. When I read, I understood that there was a debate going on, and three scholars give different opinions about the same subject, which is Greek drama tragedies. But one question asks what is the difference between the opinions of scholar No2 and scholar No3, I can't summarize the difference, even after going back to read it one more time.

Convoluted answer choices add another layer of difficulties to the questions, which sometimes give me trouble, since I am not a native English speaker. But this problem is a minor one compared to the former. These all give rise to trouble when doing inference questions.

Does anyone have experience on improving skills on handling relationships and make inference upfront? Or any general advice on how to deal with these problems? And if any of you know a tutor can help with these issues, tell me please. I'd really appreciate your help, and thank you in advance.

Good luck studying, everyone!

Please note that the information below will change to reflect the information we get! Contribute if you can via the official February 2017 LSAT discussion (linked at the bottom of this thread) without going into too much detail. If you think something is wrong or should be added, please post in the thread and let me know.

Since it is the Feb. LSAT, please be aware that it is undisclosed and, as a result, I will not be updating this thread until I get multiple confirmations on a question.

Real Sections:

LG:

-Gold/Silver Vases/Plates

-12-Week Class Schedule

-Transcribing & Preparing for Interviews

-Different Libraries

RC:

-The Bumblebee's "Waggle Dance"

-Hindus and Romans / Patriotism

-Civil Courts / Judges and Juries

-Liberal Environmentalism / Ecology

LR:

-Speed Limits for Different Vehicle Types / Vehicle Emissions from 1967-1990 / Smog

-Global Warming/Climate Change

-Charles II

-Napoleon

-Meteorite and Nano-Diamonds

-Supernova and a King's Birth

-Ravens/Crows and Worms / Dropping Pebbles in a Tube

-Children Estimating Half-Full Beakers

-Plate Tectonics / Size of Planet

-Skilled Writer Politician Makes a Speech

-Company Criticism / Debt

-Government Sending Letters Across Country / Connecting People

-Middle-Aged Coffee Drinkers / High Blood Pressure

Experimental Sections:

LG:

-French/Russian Language

RC:

LR:

UNCONFIRMED:

If you can confirm that these are real / experimental, please do so by PMing me or posting in the main thread.

None yet!

This thread is closed for discussion. Official post Feb LSAT discussion here:

https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/10331/official-february-lsat-discussion-thread

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Thanks in advance,

Amy

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