Does anyone know if there's a filter to look for sets vs. supersets type questions? Or is there a place in the core curriculum that deals with these issues? I'm not talking about just the valid vs. invalid inferences from existential relationships, but more like the more recent PT questions that have stimuli like "most mammal species of ... are not, but most individual mammals are ..."

Does anyone have any advice on how to systematically (with a process) attack these problems? I usually do them based on my intuition, but I find that can just be very nerve-wracking. Sometimes, I draw circles/Venn diagrams, too, but I never quite know what to do with them/it's hard for me to infer anything from them.

In this example:

True Premise: A --> B

True Premise: B --> C

Inference: A--> B --> C

Is the inference a valid conclusion? Or is it just like a mundane re statement or the premises? Is it even an inference?

A --> C would of course be a valid and true inference or conclusion (depending on argument setup), right?

I took the June 2021 test and the reading and logical reasoning didn't seem too bad, but the logic games seemed very difficult to me. I'm taking August test next week so overall how do you guys predict the games section on the August 2021 will be in comparison? What about the entire test in general? Also the curve for the June test lowered a lot of people's scores, do you guys think the curve will be more in our favor for August?

I was wondering what the main differences between most strongly supported questions and Weakening questions such as how to approach them?

Normal:

Strongly Supported:

Weakening:

Causation and Phenomenon-Hypothesis:

Strongly Supported:

Weakening:

Please let me know if this is wrong and how I can improve my understanding.

Thanks.

Will I be penalized if text messages popped up on my screen while taking the official lsat writing portion? None of the messages contained anything about the exam but a good amount of group texts popped up in the right hand corner while I was working. I assumed that the secure browser would silence any notifications from my computer like honorlock and other proctoring sites do but apparently I was wrong. Has this happened to anyone else? Should I be worried?

So I was scheduled to take the test at 7am this morning and I had ran the equipment check multiple times the night before and the morning of. All equipment checks said I was good to go. However, once i went to start the test, the testing session had another system check called "ports" and repeatedly failed. This "ports" requirement was not a part of the equipment test and I had no idea that this could be a problem. I contacted tech support and they went through my settings and made sure everything was good which it was. I had techs straight up leave the chat multiple times and had other support workers having me repeat the same uninstall-reinstall tasks over and over to no avail. Eventually, after 2 hours, one of the techs just sent me a link that let me bypass the testing session and finally take the test around 9:30. There was no problem with screen sharing or them controlling my computer so I can only assume this was a technical error on their part.

While I got to take the test, it was immediately after 2 hours of non-stop heart-pumping stress and a few nervous breakdown close calls. I will definitely be taking it again in October but this has set back my app date by a few months all while I have to study for the lsat again while finishing my senior thesis. Im at a loss for how I will manage all of this now. Besides just letting off steam with this post I would like to know what you all think I should do. I do have chat logs with the technicians. I know filing a formal test complaint with LSAC will delay my scores by 3 weeks. Should I try and contact LSAC by other means and let them know the situation? The biggest thing is that I do not, under any circumstances, want to take it again through ProctorU.

Hi everyone, I'm having trouble understanding why answer choice B is the correct answer. I looked at B at first and thought that there was no way it could've been right. I chose C as my original answer

Does anyone know if applying early binding decision to chicago will greatly decrease the potential financial aid I get? That is basically the only reason I am considering not doing it. Would love insights!

Does anyone know if you are retaking the Aug lsat on the 26th if your scores would be released at the same time as everyone else or will they be later?

#help

Thanks!

Hi, folks

I came to cross PT 70 sec1 Q11, and started to wonder what proportional propositions imply.

Let’s say “The more A, the more B” is given as a Premise, not Conclusion

Does this mean that the Only contributing factor to B is the A, regardless of any other factors?

Since it literally means the more A, the more B, if A goes up, then B should go up, right?

Then as long as A is more, then other factors doesn’t matter?

OR is the proposition imply that “if all other factors are equal”? So even if A rises, if the other factors are not equal and offset the proportional relationship between A and B?

I am having problems with the Logical Games especially with grouping and matching. If anyone can help I would appreciate it.

When it comes to these harder disagreement type questions, are we supposed to look for what the two speakers explicitly disagree about or is it supposed to be implied? The video explanation seemed to indicate that it was the latter, but I feel that answer choice C points out something the two speakers were disagreeing about explicitly.

Is Answer choice B incorrect because it talks about the possibility of creating art that "people enjoy and support?" I felt that neither of the two authors gave any answer for that.

As for answer choice E, I read it as saying "express" rather than "achieve." If it had said "express," would this have been the correct answer? JY points out a bunch of assumptions you'd have to make for this to be the correct answer in the video, but are those correct assumptions? He never confirms whether they are or not and then the video ends.

I've also read other explanations that state the reason why this choice is wrong is because it talks about what is "wise" while the speakers only talk about what "should be" but how are those two things mutually exclusive? I felt that if someone were to ask either speaker whether it was wise to have public art that helped "express consensus," Laurie would say yes because it's something that public art "should do" and Elsa would say no because it's an impossible goal.

If anyone is going to answer my questions, please watch the video explanation first or you won't know what I'm talking about.

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NVM I FOUND IT, for anyone looking for a difficult RC passage it was PT 67 S1 P2.

Hey guys! I'm looking to locate a specific RC passage and really don't have much to go on - guess I'm hoping someone else will be able to recognize it lol.

I believe it was in the 60s or 70s and it was written like a journal or about someones journal or something, I think it was about a Chinese author? Anyways that's very limited information, the reason I'm looking for this passage is because it was ABSTRACT AF. Like there was BARELY any structure and it was notorious for this.

If anyone recognizes the description and wants to share any passages that it might be, do comment down below!

I realize this isn't a lot to go on so thanks to anyone who comments!

So I got sucked into the words when I was doing this. This is a clear necessary/sufficient question.

The logic structure, however, was fairly simple. IF retail store has Revenue decrease (RD), that means EITHER Attitde changed or P risen. IF P risen, salaries not Kept Pace. RD--> A or P, and then P --> /SKP.

Question stem shows that salaries kept pace, so SKP contrapositive of P --> /SKP is SKP-->/P. In English: SKP means that Price not risen. Then we go into the answer choice. When I was doing it, I saw D and thought hey if the other condition happened, that means the Revenues does not decrease, Chose D, but no. Both P and and A are necessary condition for RD. Satisfying RD leads to either A or P, but satisfying A or P means nothing to RD, and /P does not lead to A as the sufficient condition RD has not been met. The decrease revenues can still happen, or it would not. Basic lawgic lesson here. AC A is a popular choice, but /P in the condition chain of RD--> A or P doesn't do anything; so /P does not lead to A being satisfied.

Takeaway: be very sensitive to conditional words like IF, and remember the foundational lawgic. IF introduces sufficient condition, and satisfying necessary condition is not enough.

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Very interesting question. Chose C like a moron cuz I was thinking hmmm how would irritation in the lungs and pollen has anything to do with death? No way people die to pollen allergy?

AC A is the correct one. The fact that population increased does not mean anything to the argument. I can't even identify the trap here and my theories are that first, it is trying to trick the taker by hinting at that the death rate rose was just due to the population increase instead of the inhaler. But death rate has already taken into account of total population, so if death rate rose, the total urban population doesn't matter: it simply means that the percentage of ppl within a given population dying to asthma has increased. My second theory is that the test writers want to make test takers mistaken "population" as "pollution," but idk.

AC B is a direct reference to the part where the question stem mentions that the ability to count asthma patients has not improved. AC B bolsters that part of the argument, making it more likely that there is something else other than the increased accuracy of data collection.

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Any tips for MSS/Inference questions for RC please.

Especially, when there is a Passage A and Passage B.

Thank you.

I see that the conclusion is based on a resolve the paradox.

But I find that unfair for a MC question because resolving something does not make it the conclusion of a paragraph.

Example:

If I make a paragraph on what really went down on Roswell, the point is asking all the crazy thing. The main summary would be “something weird happened that caused people to look into”.

If I give explanations (aliens, CIA, time travelers, big foot) that doesn’t justify it to say that’s the conclusion. I would say “ummm no, this just means reasons for what is it”. Reasons for what? The mystery (HENCE THE CONCLUSION)

Are resolving paradox's conclusions now for modern LSAT?

Hello, I'm struggling with understanding Hybrid games. I have a solid foundation on ordering and grouping but for some reason hybrid is tough. Are there any tutors that specialize in Hybrid games?

Hey everyone!

In conditional-heavy games, when a question stem introduces a new temporary conditional, I have trouble linking this to the master chain, especially if it's already completed.

Anyone know any good video lessons or resources that could help me out with this?

Thanks!

I know this is a very basic necessary/sufficient question but could someone validate the way I diagramed the logic?

Stim:

Professor: both O parents --> only O child

Student: not [both O parents --> only O child], but the student switched the professor's statement around to mean [only O child --> both O parents]. So given his logic, /both O parents --> /only O child (since he's Type B).

ACs:

A) only O child --> both O parents

B) both O parents --> /type B child

C) both B parents --> only O children

D) irrelevant

E) both B parents --> type B children

#help

Hi ... I need more practice with labeling. Where can I get more problem since I have gone thru the 4 problem sets.

why is answer choice C wrong?

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Hello! I'm currently working on my weak points of the LSAT and I am Drilling Single/Comparative passages. In anyone's experience with taking the LSAT already, how many passages would you recommend drilling per day? I am doing about 6-7 but i am not sure if that's too much. Any information would be appreciated!

Can anyone please help explain this question? very confused..

My thought:

C and S are required to leave their respective stations immediately to pursue any prisoner who attempts to escape.

prisoner escape --> leave

unless they are pursuing such a prisoner, C and S are forbidden to leave until their replacements have arrived.

leave --> replacement arrived or pursue prisoner ??? is that correct?

On 9-11pm, when they finished shifts and replacement arrived, it was discovered that C had violated these rules and S has not.

Pick could be true except:

A prisoner attempted to escape at 7pm, neither C or S left his or her station before 9pm.

Why is this the correct answer?

All the answer choices don't really make any sense to me. Not sure how to apply because the one person violate the other one did not situation completely threw me off...

Please help! Thank you!!!!

Hi everyone! I will be taking the October test as my second attempt, and while I know things are pretty set in stone at this point, I was wondering if there were any last minute quick strategies people had to share? My LR has been hovering around the -6/-8 range for tests in the 80s and I would love to get that down to -5!