Howdy everyone,

I am a June 2023 LSATer and got a 170 (yay!) but I want to go to a T-14 (Duke is my dream school). I’m a little disappointed since my average was a 173 (175,173,170,170,173,173,172), do you think it would be wise to retake? I am already registered for the August test, but I am trying to figure out whether I should get my refund. Until then, I am only able to dedicate weekends and the two weeks before I would take it to intense studying, so I am a little concerned with retaking it and getting the same score. Kind of in a middle ground, so any advice would be appreciated!

My GPA is a 3.83 since I graduated in three years and spent 2 of those years as STEM, and I am a non-URM wanting to go into public-interest.

For those of you who consistently score -0 in LG, what got you there? Was it foolproofing PT1-35? Foolproofing everything...? I sometimes get -0 but sometimes get as much as -3 in a timed section, and often times it's due to silly mistakes. I've been studying for a long time now and foolproofed a lot of games, but haven't gone through every single game from PT1-35 and foolproofed it to completion and am wondering if that's what's holding me back. Looking for advice on how to get to -0 consistently!

Hello everyone! Can someone explain to me why B is the correct answer? I chose E but I am having a hard time understanding the big difference between these two answer choices. Thanks!

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Hey! Can someone explain to me why E is the correct answer? I chose B but I am having a hard time understanding the big difference between these two answer choices. Thanks!

I was registering for the August 2023 LSAT earlier and couldn't help but notice that the LSAC website lists a platform called "Prometric" instead of ProctorU for scheduling now. Did LSAC send out an official notice about this change already (that I somehow overlooked)? Not going to lie, this makes me a little anxious, hahaha. Here's to hoping this is a positive change and that August remote test takers don't suffer too much 😭

-so if you fail a sufficient condition, the rule "goes away" ?

-but if you satisfy a necessary condition, the rule also "goes away" ?

-you would not want to rely on a contrapositive of any of these rules in these two situations above?

Hi, just wondering if anyone has any tips for RC (aside from getting reps in) that really improved their score and confidence in each answer?

Also, I'm not finding blind review to be as useful for RC as it is with LR and LG, any suggestions/tweaks to the review process for RC? I understand it may just be the nature of the section compared to the other two.

Hi, looking for tips on MC questions. The source of my dilemma I think is that for the RC MC questions, the answer tends to encompass the passage as a whole instead of a short/explicit answer of the conclusion. Consequently, during LR MC/MP questions, sometime I fall victim to AC's that contain a qualifier of the conclusion/more encompassing. Does anyone do the same and any tips on how to fix this?

My analytics indicate my accuracy is about 11% lower on LR MC questions relative to my score, and so improvements to this question type will really help me!

I have quit again, the main point makes no sense, as do assumptions

Hello,

I had a question regarding the best approach to RC passages that have two different subpassages for one set of questions. In the practice test explanation videos, JY approaches these by reading passage A and then going through the questions, then reading passage B and doing this the same, but there is no video in the core curriculum about these types of passages. Do you guys find the strategy of reading one and doing the questions then reading the other and repeating the questions to be fast enough, or do you usually just read them both at once then go to the questions? Thanks.

Hello,

I brushed it off the first few times, but I've now noticed JY using an odd symbol for "at least" a number of times now. Can anyone explain? Is it simply a messy version of an inequality symbol (e.g., ≤), or something different?

I can't seem to attach a screenshot, but he draws the symbol at 2:04 of this game explanation: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-42-section-1-game-4/

Thanks,

David

PrepTest B - Section 4 - Question 06

I picked "E" but the correct answer is "C" but I don't understand why can someone help me?

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Hi, I watched the explanation for this question but I still don't understand why D is the correct answer over E -- so if anyone really understands this question may you please explain it to me in a simple way.

Thank you!

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Hey 7Sagers,

Here's the official June 2023 LSAT Discussion Thread.

REMINDER: Under your Candidate Agreement, you may not discuss the details of any specific LSAT questions at any time. For the June 2023 LSAT, general discussion of what sections you had, or how difficult you found a given section, or speculation about which sections were scored or unscored, is prohibited until after 9pm ET, Tuesday, June 13th.

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Hello future lawyers,

As I have been working through completing many of the drills for RC, I often find that once I complete all the questions and then complete my blind review, that once I go to check my answers for these RC question drills, the only explanation provided for the questions is a "Discuss" option, and that there is no walkthrough of the questions or passage.

Many of these are all older RC questions, and whenever I click "Discuss" it bring me to a blank discussion page with no explanation provided. Not sure if this is something anybody else has noticed. Please let me know why this is and if there is any way to get explanation for these RC practice drills, as this has been making it very hard to see how I can do better while working through these practice questions. Thanks!!

Hello, I've created a discord for all students taking the August or September 2023 LSAT.

Here's the link: https://discord.gg/XhaYVT7z

PM / inbox me if the invite has become invalid.

Thank you!

Oftentimes when I watch JY's explanations, I feel like 'wow I never would have made that inference on my own' or I still don't understand at all. So I obviously need work but I'm not sure how to approach my Games practice. When I fool proof, I tend to feel like I'm memorizing and just brain dumping versus practicing and making inferences on my own. I need a 'Games for Dummies' guide-- a really straightforward approach for a neurodiverse brain, as someone who Games are not intuitive whatsoever. I've done the CC and I practice memorizing logic rules a few times a week, so not knowing the basics isn't the issue. I try to set up the games without watching JY's videos and sometimes I do really well--I often solve it using a different approach than JY takes. And sometimes I'm solving 5/5 difficulty on my own and they feel like a breeze. But other times, I get pretty stuck on one of the questions and I end up having to watch the video for support. But when I do that, I feel like I miss out on the practice of making inferences for myself and I really need that practice. Comment if games aren't exactly intuitive for you and tell me what has worked!

Hey team,

For all of those 7Sage team members who have taken the LSAT in the past. Have any of you ever gotten two reading comp sections instead of two logical reasoning sections?

Hi all,

I've been using the ProctorU "Test My Equipment" ahead of test day and it keeps telling me my RAM usage is over 95%. I have closed all other applications and google chrome tabs (plus this is a relatively new computer so there is not a lot taking up storage)--not sure what else I can try?! Anyone know how to resolve this issue?

Appreciate any tips people have, thanks!!

Hi!

I just took this question and answered E first but then changed to D during blind review because it seemed to me that "colonized" was too much of an inference in this answer. Now that I have seen the correction, I still have troubles understanding why D is incorrect. Is E a better answer because it is a better conclusion to the stimulus? How can I approach these tough MSS questions better? #help

Thank you

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I saw a question that said "What is the overall conclusion..". For these overall conclusion questions, is it best to choose the main conclusion, or to also include information from the other stimulus too? Thank you!

I took the June test on June 13, and while I was taking the last section of the test, the proctor abruptly terminated my test and would not tell me the reason for termination when I asked her but instead asked me to reach out to LSAC directly.

I immediately called the LSAC afterwards, and they simply told me to submit a test complaint via my account and wait for them to reply. After one day, the Office of Test Security replied by email that I was observed running an unpermitted software application, Cisco Webex, which violated section 16 of the Candidate Agreement (test takers are not permitted to operate or run any other software applications at any point during the testing session). They have cancelled my score and would not offer me a retest opportunity.

I promptly called the LSAC and again they told me to address my concerns by sending an email to the Office of Test Security, as they are solely in charge of handling test takers' complaints and cannot be reached by phone call! I had absolutely no knowledge that the app was being run. I made every reasonable effort to close open apps before the test, and I also believed any such app was already double-checked and closed by the proctors (there were two proctors in turn monitoring my test before the third proctor terminated it). So I wrote an email to the office as copied below:

In reference to your email regarding my June test complaint, the software application Cisco Webex has not been used or opened by me or anyone else on that computer for over six months. Before taking the test, I made all reasonable efforts as a general computer user to ensure that any open applications were closed. I distinctly recall the two proctors also double-checking and ensuring that such an application was closed.

Please provide proof that this application was actively operated on the computer. Additionally, please explain why, based on this proof, you were able to determine that any screen sharing or remote accessing might have occurred, potentially causing a violation of academic integrity. Furthermore, please clarify why, as a general computer user, I would have had any reasonable ability to know and prevent such technical issues from happening.

However, they basically dismissed my concerns, replying that they found it necessary to cancel my June 2023 LSAT score due to a violation of the Candidate Agreement, and I am not eligible for options in response to my complaint. They would not even give me any proof of their allegation!

I don't know what else I can do to raise my concerns and get a retest, other than giving LSAC a phone call and being dismissed by them again. I have prepared for this test for over a year in total and I am desperate to take the June retest (which is scheduled next week on June 21) because I probably wouldn't be able to test again in the near future due to my personal arrangements. If any of you have any advice as to what I can do now, I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you.

For question 22, I was between choices A & C and I'm having trouble reasoning why the answer is C.

A) These places also have laws about other aspects of bicycle safety.

This seems like it can be the correct answer choice because if these places have other bicycle safety laws, it makes sense that riding on the left vs not riding on the left doesn't impact collisions much, since they have other measures to combat collisions, or whatever. However, since it was outlawed, and assuming that riding on the left leads to more collisions, the collision rate only decreased slightly, since there are other laws protecting bicyclists' safety.

C) Police officers in these places do not enforce regulations that apply to bicyclists.

I understand this is the right answer because while some may have stopped riding on the left since it was outlawed, many did not because the police weren't enforcing this law, therefore, leading to only a little decrease in collisions (the people who decided to follow the law). However, the assumption in this seems (that bicyclists continue riding on the left despite being against the law) to be greater than the assumption made for A (that other safety laws can combat the rate of collisions in general).

Can someone explain?

Thanks

Hello! I don't remember what practice test I took, but I saw a different type of logic game question. It said something along the lines of "G must be in H only if..". I am only used to the "If G is in H, what must be true?" Does anyone have tips on how to answer the "G must be in H only if.." questions? Thank you!

Hi 7Sagers,

How would the following statement be diagrammed?

"The tornadoes in the area are not the only natural disasters happening in the country."

Does this statement have a useful representation using conditional logic? How would "not the only" be represented when diagramming a conditional statement? This was not pulled from a PrepTest, just something I thought of while going through the Logic section of the CC.

Thanks!