I completed the CC about a year ago and I took a while off due to some military obligations and now I'm gearing towards taking the June LSAT. I've begun to fool proof the LG and am wondering what should I do to improve RC and LR? Do I do the CC again or should I focus on the questions types I struggle with?

My diagnostic test was a 144, I've improved to a 156 but that is doing the test untimed. I average -12 LR -12 RC and -11LG. I'm seeing some improvement so far by fool proofing the LG but don't want to neglect the other sections that I also need to improve dramatically on.

Hi everyone,

I just received notification from Emory stating that my application has been deferred for consideration through the regular decision process. The email was very concise and did not include information on how to update or add to my application. It's also too late for me to take the February LSAT. Any recommendations on how best to proceed?

Thank you!!!

Hello all!

I purchased 7sage last summer with the intention of taking the September LSAT. I had a 158 diagnostic, BR of 174. Ending up kind of half-assing my way through the CC, never truly focusing on any particular strategy for any of the three sections or forcing myself to make sure I truly understood the logic. When September rolled around, I knew I wasn't ready but decided to take anyway (I made this big post about whether or not I should, I had to take it abroad in Paris) with the plan on taking again in September. I scored a 163, which was pretty much what I expected.

I continued studying through September/October and made incremental improvements - took three more PTs and got a 164, 166, and 167, with BRs from 175-177. I then came to the realization that December was not enough time to reach my potential. So I decided to postpone the whole cycle and now I'm shooting for June and I'm pretty pumped about this choice! Woo!

I've been re-doing the CC more meticulously this time. I am currently in the midst of fool proofing the LG bundle...I've made it to game 12 and for the last 5 games I've gotten 2-3 wrong the first time through timed. So I feel like I am on track for that section and am comfortable enough to do it alongside the CC, since some of the material is review.

For LR, the CC + the few PT's I've done have helped me identify weak areas, as there are definitely patterns in the questions I am missing. Particularly SA, NA, and Parallel Flaw questions. I seem to be on average missing 5 or so per section. My hope is that through question type drilling and returning to the CC I will be able to get this down to a consistent 2 or less over the next 4.5 months.

Reading comprehension is where I am a bit lost because I don't feel like I really know where to begin in terms of practicing. I miss around 4/5 per section ... but that has been as high as 7 and as low as 1. I think I'm a little bewildered as to how to approach this section due as I've always been very strong in RC in other standardized tests, but obviously LSAT RC is a whole different beast... I know some people do a lot of marking, underlining, etc. on the passage while others do none at all. Just curious about how y'all have approached the RC section from the get-go/how you figured out what strategy worked for you.

Just for some more details, if I got score of 174 I would be pretty thrilled. I realize I still have plenty of work ahead and just want to make an effective use of my time, as I'm sure we all do. I can devote 20-25 hours per week to the LSAT, I'm just working part-time. My undergrad GPA is a 3.76 with a degree in global policy and a couple random minors in biology and French for a small LA school. By the time I attend law school, I'll have been out of school for 4 years, 2 of which I spent teaching English in France and 2 spent in Iceland getting a MA in International Affairs (free tuition wooo!). I would love love love to go to Columbia or NYU, as I'm quite interested in International law but will definitely apply to a slew of schools.

Any input on RC would be much appreciated, as well as general feedback regarding how realistic my goal is. Thank you thank you !

I've been studying full time for a few months and on days like today (where I'm loopy and can't focus), I like to take a break and do something non-LSAT related for a bit. I'd love to use my breaks to spend time with friends but socializing has been tough lately because all of my friends either work full time or are still in school. I am usually studying by the time my friends finally get off work/end class, so my 'break' moments have consisted of me going to the gym and then putzing around until I feel like I can study again lol... I'm running out of ideas for things to do during the day that will keep me sane!

For those who study full-time, what do you like to do during the day when you take a break from the LSAT?

Hi,

Just to give some background: I have a high-160s score and plan on retaking in June. LR is my weakness. On my official test, I got -10 (combined) across the two sections. I have been retaking old tests, but am thinking about how best to reduce my misses in LR.

To those who have experience making this jump: should I do untimed sections of LR and really try to internalize the reasoning in each question OR do timed 35 minute sections with blind review (though I've seen these sections already)?

I'm torn because during my official test, I ran out of time to really digest certain questions so timing is an issue, but I also attribute my inability to complete a section to a general weakness in understanding the stimuli presented.

Any help is appreciated! Thanks in advance!

My study abroad grades would hurt my current cumulative GPA if taken into account by LSAC... and I'm already a splitter to begin with so I can't afford any hits to my GPA.

My school notes my abroad courses and grades on the transcript (with an "S" for satisfactory and my actual grades in parentheses), but does not calculate it for the cumulative undergrad GPA.

When I send my transcript to LSAC, will my abroad grades be taken into account for cumulative? If so, is that a hard rule or are there exceptions?

So I’ve been spending 3-4hrs BR’ing LGs using Pacifico’s method every night after my 8-5 job on weekdays and then 3-4 hours on Saturday and Sunday as well. I’ll work on one new game and then repeat a game from the day before and a game from the week before. I’ve only taken one day off. I’ve made it to LG 25 and i’ve improved a lot.

I’ve been fighting this flu for the past few days and it’s making me a lot slower at LGs. I’m struggling on games that were a breeze for me even on my first take. I’m still getting all the q’s right and not brute forcing my way thru it, I’m just a few min slower.

Would it be better to take a few days off and come back to it? or is it better to keep going and not stop practicing?

After a long process, a school I attended in 1996 is removing 2 grades of "E" and making them a regular withdrawal. I am ready to send in all applications today but thinking that might be a bad decision since LSAC takes about 3 weeks to process transcripts. My question is (which LSAC hasn't answered) will the schools I have already applied to receive an updated transcript? Should I warn them via email that a new gpa is coming? It's a big difference (3.2 vs 3.48) so I am afraid of receiving a denial based on current gpa before the new one arrives but also considering it is so late in the cycle. Any advice out there?

Hi all, I applied to UVA Law via their binding decision as of a few days ago. I am also currently registered to sit for the February 2018 LSAT. Currently my numbers are 167/3.67 which I know is a stretch for UVA.

I am currently stuck on what to do because UVA Adcomm wants me to make a decision on whether I want them to render a decision on my current application within 15 business days of when I submitted or wait until after I receive the Feb LSAT score. Based on the December 2017 LSAT score release starting the trend of beating the score release date I would imagine the Feb LSAT score would come out last week of February. Just to paint a more clear picture, I have been averaging around a 171 on my 30 most recent PTs but I have taken the LSAT twice now and have been unable to translate it on the test (scoring a 167 twice). So I think realistically I could improve my score to a 168/169 but not very confident to get any higher than that.

What would you guys do?

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I was wondering if anyone knew if PreProBono was holding any more LSAT workshops? I was going through the website and the last workshop was in 2016 : (. I signed up for their newsletter but wanted to express my interest in case anyone here is working with JY on it. Thanks.

7 sagers or other experts...

Please help. I just received this email from one of the law schools I've applied to last month. I don't know what this means?

It's the first update I've heard back from a law school I've applied to.

The email said "this is a normal step" and "not a wait list" ?

What does this mean exactly? IF it's not a wait list, what is it exactly? Isn't being placed on "Hold" mean wait list? Why a second review? Please help!

"Your application for admission has been reviewed, however, a final decision cannot be made at this time. Your application has been placed on "Hold" pending a second review. This is a normal step in our process and not a Wait List.

Due to the number of worthy applications we receive each year, decisions do not always come easily. Your application will be re-evaluated at a later date for a decision. We will keep you posted on your status.

We appreciate your patience and the time you took to apply. You may continue to monitor the status of your application by logging on to our website. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact our office."

Should you skip and return after finishing the whole section (finish other games first) or should you return to it after completing other questions in THAT game?

We are all working hard as the feb exam is approaching. This is a thread for giving advice of any type to anyone writing the test. My number one advice, if it’s your first write, TAKE THE DAY BEFORE OFF. don’t do anything that will compromise the next day like get drunk the night before, but totally unwind. Do a baking soda detox bath and go to sleep on time!

This question is a “similar reasoning question”. It says “ the higher the altitude, the thinner the air. Since Mexico City’s altitude is higher than that of Panama City, the air must be thinner in Mexico City than in Panama City.” I have looked at the right answer but I am confused as to why one of the wrong answers (a) is incorrect. It says “as one gets older one gets wiser. Since Henrietta is older than her daughter, Henrietta must be wiser than her daughter”.

This to me is an attractive wrong answer. If it was posed as “the older you get, the wiser you are...” would that have made it right?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-35-section-4-question-23/

Over the summer I took a diagnostic and got a 141. I read the LSAT Trainer and did all of the recommended exercises. I just started the 7Sage CC a couple days ago. My goal is a 170 on the September LSAT. Obviously anything is possible, I was just curious to hear about anyone's experience who was able to do this. I'm in school full-time but I'm still able to devote a lot of time to studying for the LSAT.

Anyone have any suggestions as to the best way of tracking foolproofing?

Just starting out, but want a system in place before I do. I don't want to realize half way through that I should have kept track of something I hadn't previously considered, so would greatly appreciate input or suggestions of indicators from anyone who has gone this path before me. If I make a spreadsheet, listing each game (i.e. "PT 36, Game 1"), then what should I record to measure progress, and to make sure no games slip through the cracks? Time? Number correct? Date completed? All of the above?

Thanks!

Hello,

I have two questions for you guys.

When we are fool proofing using Pacificos or JYs way, are we practicing "memorizing" the inferences and/or "making" inferences. The reason I am asking this is because it is extremely easy for me to remember the inferences from a game once I have watched the video explanation. I can knock the game out fairly quickly this way. However, if I focus on making an inference and going through the process of making the inference, it become a lot more time consuming. If anyone could clarify in regards to this is would be greatly appreciated.

I have noticed that some of the you here are writing out your answers when doing blind review for LG, explaining the inferences to gauge whether you fully understand the game or not. When it comes to writing out explanations, could some one please clarify their method as to how they go about writing out explanations?

Thanks and much appreciated!

This may be silly, however I can't remember if the real test paper is thinner than the single tests available on amazon. Does anyone know if the paper is that thin delicate stuff? Also, was LSAC releasing Dec scores early a one time thing or have they hinted at releasing Feb scores early?

Hi everyone I'm having trouble with this question. I think I sort of understand it but if someone can clarify any details Im missing I'd appreciate it.

Basically the citizen states he will do two things to ensure incumbents aren't re-elected. 1) campaign against all these incumbents 2) vote for the incumbent who represents his own neighborhood because she's the only one that knows what she is doing. He then goes on to argue that if everyone in Mooresville follows his example there will be a change in the councils membership.

the question stem then states "assuming that each citizen in Mooresville is allowed to vote only for a city council representative...."

so were proving what must be true for the council membership to change.

A) is true because the citizen in the stimulas is making the exception of voting for an incumbent in his neighborhood that he think will do a good job. But if everyone else from different neighborhoods does the same thing there stands a possibility that all the incumbents will be voted back in and do a bad job all over again in dealing with municipal finances so the voters in answer choice A shouldn't make the same exception that the citizen is making but instead the voters should vote for other representatives, which will substantially change the councils membership.

is this correct and is my reasoning of in any way...

Thanks

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-18-section-2-question-03/

Hi all, (if this has already been answered please point me in the right direction), how do the T-14 schools notify applicants of admission decisions? Anyone with specific knowledge chime in and I can get a list going!

I started studying for the LSAT September with a 155 on an non timed LSAT by January 22 I got a 170 on a non timed test. I am now switching to timing myself to learn how to analyze and take the test as time efficiently as possible. At the same time spending more time on RC which is my weaker area. Any thought on how to own the timed LSAT scene? In the meantime keep grindin' everyone!! You got this!!!!

Just a note to say... I've heard folks say that the LSAT is kinda like riding a bike. Once you learn the logic and how to take the test, the skills more or less stick around. I'm happy to report that after being away from it for about 6 weeks, it's pretty true!

After the December test, I've basically only been focusing on applications. I'm still registered to re-take in February though. I was hoping to have apps done by now and be able to go back to drilling, but life has gotten in the way and I'm crazy behind on applications. Ugh.

Just to gauge where I'm at though, I took a PT yesterday and scored the exact same as I did on the December test! I was afraid that I would have gotten rusty. In LR, I actually felt like I improved a lot. I finished both sections with about 5 minutes to spare (which is a first for me) and went -1 and -2, which is basically my high scores for those. I did feel rusty on LG though, they all took me longer than I think they should have and my score reflected that. I did better than average on RC too, which is my weakest section. That all balanced out to a consistent score with where I was at in early December though, and I'm very pleased. I actually even think an extended break was helpful - I think I did better on LR because I wasn't overthinking things so much.

So this is a note also just to encourage anyone that may have had to take a break for any number of reasons, or is afraid of taking a break to recover from burn out: trust yourself! If you learned the underlying logic, you're going to be ok and retain those skills.

Hello everyone, this post is inspired by the fact that I just got wrecked on both LR sections on a PT. While I normally score -4 or -5 I got a -7 and -8 this time. The infuriating part is that I because have finally improved my RC and LG to a consistently high level (-4 & -3 respectively on past PT) I decided to dedicate this past week to fortifying some weak areas in LR. Unfortunately, it seems like my efforts were counterproductive. I spent most of my time doing 4/5 star questions untimed to focus on the thought process. I am wondering whether this was counter productive - maybe it hurt my confidence? Other than BR what other techniques can I utilize to bring my score down below a -4 on LR?

Before Feb 10?

Is there a portion of the application process where you apply for scholarships? Or do schools look at your score and make that decision