Hey 7Sagers, I'm leading BR calls for PT 80 (December 2016 LSAT).

I'm holding 9 sessions total. 3 for each of LR 1, LR 2, and RC. Each session will focus on only one section of PT 80. All sessions will start at 7p EST and end at 10p. Multiple sessions are meant to accomodate people's various schedules and to reduce class size per session.

What happens in these sessions?

I'll ask students to state which questions were circled for BR. We'll work through the questions the group nominates. I generally try to ask students questions to elicit the right response. Please wear headphones and try to be in a quiet place.

How should I prepare?

Take PT 80 and have the questions you'd like to BR ready. The first thing I'll ask everyone is which questions they'd like to BR.

Next Session

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7p - 10p EST

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Obtaining PT 80

If you have an Ultimate+ account, you will be able to view and print PT 80 under the Syllabus. You can also purchase PT 80 as an add-on to your existing course here.

Alternatively, you can purchase the paper copy of LSAT PT 80 on Amazon here.

Past Sessions

5/18 Thursday - Section 1 - LR

5/19 Friday - Section 4 - LR

5/20 Saturday - Section 2 - RC, Passages 1 and 3

5/21 Sunday - Section 1 - LR

5/22 Monday - Section 4 - LR

5/23 Tuesday - Section 2 - RC, Passages 2 and 4

5/24 Wednesday - Section 1 - LR

5/25 Thursday - Section 4 - LR

5/26 Friday - Section 2 - RC

Hello , I'm finding myself having a hard time staying motivated unfortunately . I work a 4 tour rotating shift scheduled job and sometimes lose my focus and motivating to study . Anyone have any advice to keep yourself motivated / focused on studying hard while maintain a full time job with a ridiculous work schedule ?

I need encouragement. I did so bad on my first preptest (139) and really want to reach 160. I work full time and just quit my part-time job so I can focus more on the LSAT. I currently try and study about 3 hours a day minimum and 5 hours a day mininmum on the weekends. I just ended the curriculum but with this score I'm feeling like I didn't learn anything (which I hope isn't true). My PT schedule currently is:

Saturdays: Preptest at 12PM

Sundays- Friday: Blind review/ Review my answers/ Understand what I got wrong

Saturdays: Repeat

I want to finish my review of my preptest tonight so I can start drilling the types of problems I'm getting wrong. Any success stories simliar to mine? I WAS thinking of the June test but with this first score I'm not sure I should anymore.

I do not understand why, "'it is never acceptable to offer experimental treatments to patients who experience no extreme symptoms of the the relevant disease" is translated as no extreme symptoms (NES) -----> not acceptable to offer exp. treatment (/AOET).

If we negate the necessary - wouldn't that be 'it is sometimes acceptable to offer ex. trmt'. I do not grasp how just repeating what the sentence says is negating the necessary in this case? I'm having trouble in general with these 'not, never, double-negative type statements, and invariably getting them wrong. please help.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-57-section-3-question-15/

Hello guys,

So I just completed the BR on this passage, and I am still tripped up on question 1.

I understand why answer choice A is correct, expect for the bit concerning "oil companies". Can someone point me to where this is supported in the passage? or are we supposed to presume that the "researchers" are from the oil companies?

Thanks,

Kristen

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-10-section-3-passage-1-passage/

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-10-section-3-passage-1-questions/

Hey guys,

A 7Sager wrote in with a question that I thought you guys could help out with! Here it is:

I recently enrolled in your program and I had a technical question to ask you about one of your lessons. I believe you covered it however just for clarification, in bi-conditionals referring to Logic Games (in/out) in specific Prep-Test 24, Section 4-Game 1. One of the rules states that Fenugreek is not included in the same recipe as Nutmeg. When I wrote out the rule, N /F, however there is another rule that ultimately connects through G N (Ginger in same recipe as Nutmeg). I wanted to ask, when you diagrammed it on your lesson, you wrote the top rule as F/N (aren't they the same?). And ultimately your chain was F/G/N however mine turned into GN/F (/N going from outside to N in the middle). So....am I wrong? Isn't just N/F and F/N contrapositives but switched around, so I guess I'm deciding which side to put my / though (If I should have negated my N or F and if it should always be on the "right side" or can it be on the "left", it's interchangeable right?, but my rule seems ultimately a little "messed" up in comparison. I could use a quick clarification. I had a question and didn't know to whom I should write, thank you very much! I could really appreciate your help!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-24-section-4-game-1/

Hey all, I took the February exam and I've decided to retake in June. I've basically taken every publicly available PT so I'm concerned I won't be able to study the same way I did for February. What do you guys typically recommend for those in this situation? I know JY advocates maintaining one's PT supply but I had hoped I would only need to take the exam once. Sigh. Anyway, given where I am now how would you all suggest I study? I don't consciously remember the answers to the vast majority of questions, though I'm sure there's an unconscious element to it.

Let me know what you all think.

Really appreciate what you guys do here.

I can't call this "sage advice" since I'm not a sage, but here goes it:

After intensive prep this past fall, I scored a 169 on the December LSAT. Despite being very good at LR and RC, I had a fundamental LG weakness. I probably got 8 wrong on LG, plus 6 wrong on the other 3 sections combined.

My brain is naturally geared for all things verbal, but it's nothing special when it comes to visual tasks like LG.

For the rest of December and most of January, I took a break from LSAT. When I got back into it, I just drilled LG 4 days per week. I fool proofed everything from the earliest PT book (10 actual), including a lot of weird games. I also foolproofed the LG in the core curriculum.

All I can say is that it made a big difference. Last week I did my first PT (#42) in 3 months --- scored 170. The LR & RC skills had eroded a bit, but LG was much better. Today I did another PT (#43) -- scored 177, which is several points better than I've ever done on a PT. Not having a "bad section" is a game changer.

I didn't repeat games to the same extent that JY recommends -- I found that doing the game once, watching the video, and doing it a couple more times is usually enough for me to remember the inferences. But his broader point (remembering the inferences) still stands. I'm glad I put in the LG work (like many here on 7sage have already done in the past) and am looking forward to the June LSAT.

I am finishing up the core curriculum in the next week or two and I am wondering what I should do the days I am not taking a PT or blind reviewing. I am debating if I should work through PT 1-35 section by section to get a mix of question rather than drilling specific question types. The second option is that I purposefully did not do all of the problem sets throughout the core curriculum so I could have them to do if I needed to address specific weaknesses. I also plan on fool proofing all logic games while taking PT's. Any input on what your strategy was would be greatly appreciated!

Hey 7sage!

I took my first PT and got 161 3 weeks ago. I thought it'd be a good idea to take PT's every other day, until I learned about how harmful that may be, then I slowed down and reviewed/drilled more vigorously.

Since then, I've taken two PT's and stayed at 161 with a BR of 167/168. I am improving BR and being more vigilant about circling and taking time, but I'm still improving and it can be evidently higher.

Nonetheless, I am very discouraged about my lack of progression. I did the curriculum and I don't have one specific facet of LR that I struggle with. What I'm having trouble with is finishing LR sections, keeping focus during the LR and not freaking out halfway through. Basically, I begin getting really anxious and make stupid mistakes that compound like a snowball. LG is usually okay (timing is sometimes off) and my RC, initially my best section, is decreasing in performance because of the previous LR section that throws me off mentally.

Any words of advice and encouragement would be appreciated. I feel like I can do this but I'm having a hard time breaking through. My goal is 170+ for June.

What if I purchase the Ultimate package then decide I want the Ultimate Plus package, can I upgrade?

Hey 7Sagers, I'm leading another twelve-hour long LR workshop (#6) over four nights (three hours per night) for seven students to provide an intensive and comprehensive overview of all foundational concepts and their application to all types of LR questions.

Schedule

Session 1 - May 5, Friday, 7-10pm PST (10pm-1am EST)

Session 2 - May 6, Saturday, 7-10pm PST (10pm-1am EST)

Session 3 - May 7, Sunday, 7-10pm PST (10pm-1am EST)

Session 4 - May 8, Monday, 7-10pm PST (10pm-1am EST)

Cost

Free. But! There's a $150 deposit to reserve your spot. If you show up on time and participate for the entire duration of all sessions, your deposit will automatically be refunded fully at the end of the workshop. Otherwise, it is forfeit. Please make sure you can attend the entire 12 hour long workshop.

#Frequently Asked Questions

Q: How will you select which five students will participate?

A: Lottery. If you are interested, please comment below in this thread within 48 hours. If selected for the lottery, you'll have another 48 hours to place the deposit to reserve your spot.

Q: Who should take this workshop and what will be covered?

A: Beginners. This means you haven't finished the Core Curriculum yet and you're not starting to take PrepTests yet. Imagine the workshop as a fast paced overview of the entire Core Curriculum that pertains to LR. We'll cover theory and we'll apply that theory to actual LSAT questions. It will be highly interactive and hence the limit of four students. Wherever you are in the Core Curriculum, this a great way to solidify the concepts covered.

Q: Can I sign up even if I'm not a beginner?

A: Yes, you can. I'm certain that it'll benefit you to return to concepts covered in the Core Curriculum. I'm also certain that you will find it very slow at times since I will be speaking to students on the assumption that they are beginners.

Q: Do I need to have a paid 7Sage account to sign up?

A: Yes, you do. If you have an expired account, message Dillon and see if he's willing to reactivate it for you.

Q: What materials are used in this workshop?

A: The workbook that you will be provided with will contain LR questions from PrepTests 54, 55, and 56. Yes, we will be "burning" those PrepTests in order to get a closer look at the modern LSAT.

Q: What do I need to do to prepare for the workshop if I get in?

A: You should print the above mentioned workbook. You should be in a quiet space where you can talk freely. You should have a fast internet connection. You should have headphones or earphones ready.

Q: How do I attend the workshop?

A: The workshop will be hosted on Amazon's Chime. Instructions and meeting location will be sent to you once you've successfully registered.

Q: Will there be more workshops in LR / LG / RC in the future?

A: Yes. This session accommodates east coasters who work during the day. Future sessions will accommodate others.

Hi!

I was down to answers C and E and wasn't sure why E would be a better choice than C and vice versa.

I did watch JY's video and still have trouble figuring this out.

C- I thought this was supported by line 2-4. Wouldn't "word processors, spreadsheets, legal research systems" be counted as as legal research tools? I interpreted C as the computerized automated legal reasoning systems not being able to fulfill its original expectations and functions.

E- This is supported by line 55-58. However, I thought that the wording "computer specialists" is too narrow to capture the idea in E. That's why I hesitated.

What makes E better supported by C? Because I see both as textually supported.

Please let me know!

Thanks.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-51-section-2-passage-4-passage/

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-51-section-2-passage-4-questions/

Hi All,

I'm planning on taking this test (I work more than full time but travel schedule/work life generally slows in the summer) and looking for people to study with/BR with/generally exchange motivation with in the larger LA area. Online or in person!

Any takers?

Hi everyone! I just finished my curriculum and planning on taking the June LSAT. What study schedules have worked for you and have made you successful? I'm finding it difficult to get into a rhythm

Hey everyone, I hope everyone had an awesome day!

I'm currently in a huge slump.. So about a month or two ago, I finally broke a barrier and scored a 151 (157 BR), but then my last three PT's have been a 146, 139, and 143 (I'm still using the PT's in the 40's). It sucks because I know I'm capable of doing this despite my scores being below average, and because I BR in the +150's, but these last three have been a bummer.

I am a full-time elementary teacher, I've been studying since last summer, and I feel like i'm losing momentum and dragging this thing too long. I'm not in a rush to take in June unless I miraculously around my goal of 155+, so i'm currently eyeing September to apply and be enrolled Fall 18', but I would hate to push back yet another year.

Any suggestions or advice? Anything helps. Thanks in advance, I know I can always count on the 7Sage community.

Hello guys.

I am following Starter program, but kind of feeling that I need harder problem sets.

I geared my study towards June LSAT, but recently rethought the plan, and I am still considering whether I should switch it to Sep. LSAT.

In that situation, I am considering upgrading the curriculum into higher ones that include more difficult problem sets. But my concern is whether solving many difficult problems before going to PT would be actually helpful. I think that just studying without knowing weaknesses (which are usually exposed by timed PTs) is not that efficient. Also, since for 3 months I self-studied LSAT through LSAT Trainer and feel familiar with each question type (also by help of CC) I am not sure whether I should practice each question type mode deeply by doing a lot of problem sets. (I usually get 17/18 in a LR section.)

My plan for now is to first complete CC at the Starter level, go into PTs as soon as possible and then purchasing new problem sets so that I could practice where I am weak, which will turn out by PTs.

I just want to hear what you guys think who are experienced more than me at 7sage.

Thank you.

Has anyone taken this course, went through 1L (or is currently going through it) and can give their feedback on how useful KTCOOLS/Larry Law Law is? I've searched in previous posts on 7Sage and it appears that it's mostly positive reviews, but when I go on the law forums people say that it's a waste of time/money and 0L could be spent doing something else, because apparently the things that he teaches us is already taught in 1L. Is there anyone who has already gone through 1L/is going through 1L and used KTCOOLS who can give their thoughts on the matter? Am I just being overworried about 1L? Thanks!!

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Hi all,

I'm studying to take the September 2017 LSAT. I've just enrolled in the 7Sage Ultimate+ course. For those more experienced with the course, what advise would you give for someone starting out?

Should I just go through the syllabus..? Was there a particular study schedule that worked better for you?

Thanks so much!

hello, I'm using google chrome to print the preptest thats been uploaded as a secure document. But every time I press the print button, the printing "job" won't go through my printer. there isn't anything wrong with my printer since I can print other documents without any problem. Has anyone faced similar challenges? I would appreciate if anyone could share some solutions!

Some of you know that my dream school is UTA, but my scores fall below the qualifications, and I am in that 0-10% range in LSAC for acceptance. I am not expecting miracles here, but I was wondering if I could push my chances up by a point by sending in a "Why UT?" essay to the admissions office?

If so, how do you go about that? Do you just send an e-mail attachment to the admissions office and title it with a "Why UT? Letter add on to admissions committee for consideration" type of thing? Also, if I wished to add an addendum , could I do the same?

My application was sent in about a month ago, and it's possible that I receive an answer soon. I may be too late, as a matter of fact. Still, in case I am not, are these things I should do? Or is it best to wait it out at this point?

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Taking a PT on Monday under "true" test conditions has not given me enough time for a thorough BR before the Wed night BR calls - hence the move to Thursday:) If this change impacts you to not be able to join, pls let me know.

For June takers, we should be able to cover the LR questions and possibly discuss specific RC/LG on the calls. If we are tight as a group preparing for June, then we should be able to make it work to cover all aspects of the PT whether within the calls or working together to meet on other forums to ensure understanding:)

Here is my plan & hope you will join getting Test Day ready...

Look forward to what we can do in the next two months (3(/p)

Edited - Any feedback on "getting Test Day" ready welcome :)

Hello guys.

I am a beginner in 7sages. I have studied LSAT for 3 months by LSAT Trainer. I recently found out this site and am now running on CC. I posted this because I think I need some advice on the direction of my study before I go further in the journey.

To begin with, I am currently gearing my study to June LSAT, and my average PT score goes 17/18 in LR, 19/20 in LG, and 22/23 in RC. My goal is from high 160 to low 170. Among other sections, LR keeps me from getting higher scores. The reason why I started to follow 7sages' CC was to improve my overall abilities in LR, which is the most hardest section for me in terms of accuracy and timing.

But as for RC and LG, I thought I could improve them by doing what I have done for practice. For LG, I did one section under 35 mins every day and checked 7sages video explanation for games that I had trouble in however little that trouble is. For RC, like LG, I did one section under 35 mins every day and checked what I got wrong.

This being said, is it a good idea for me to stop doing these and follow CC first for LG and RC?**** The reason why I ask this question is that I had not enough time to finish the whole curriculum including LG and RC before June and am just considering skipping LG and RC portions in CC. I just want to ask this question to those who found difference in 7sages curriculum especially in LG and RC.

Thank you.

All the test sites in and surrounding the NYC area are full for registration for the June LSAT. The options are to either be on the waitlist or go to Philly (Philly is the closest site based on my NYC zip code). Does anyone know if being on the waitlist is a promising option? Should I go ahead sign up for the one in Philly and hope that a spot will open up here in NYC? Any insights will be greatly appreciated!