I am going through the trial material right now and have already decided to postpone my test until the fall. What I am wondering is how intuitive is the material? Will it walk me through some of the more (seemingly) complex lessons in regard to practice tests, etc.? I have a little bit (lot) of anxiety regarding this and wanted to see if someone would mind sharing some of your experiences and advice you would give to a new user to the site.

I'm starting to confuse myself. Can someone clarify how they would do a logical negation of this for the NA Negation Technique?

"Any candidate whose visual image does not evoke many positive feelings in votes will not be elected."

Any candidate whose visual image does evoke positive feelings in votes will be elected.

Or

No candidate whose visual image does not evoke many positive feelings in votes will not be elected.

I am about halfway though the CC and all of these indicators have really turned into second nature for me.

Although this is the case, I would really like to see “caused by” added into the Group 1 indicators, as it has really messed with my head. A clear example of this is on LSAT #25 S4 Q12. This question would have been an easy one have I would have known earlier. Lesson learned!

What are other people's thoughts? Is group 1 even the correct rule?

So I'm brand new and 6 months out and cruising through the core curriculum at about 2.25 to 3 hours a day and I just came across the optional diagnostic. I've got to be honest, the idea of taking a test cold right now seems a little silly as I've only learned the basics of argument and grammar. Is there a serious benefit of taking a cold LSAT test prep-test? Any thoughts either way? My intuition is saying I rather learn everything I can before I start drilling prep-tests and blind reviewing.

Struggling with this. I'm stuck between how D is correct over C. See below for a break up of the stimulus.

1970-now --> Oil use decreased by 40%

Why? 2 reasons:

1. Increases in the price of oil

2. Government policies promoting energy conservation

Because of this, many people switched to natural gas for heating, which required investing in equipment.

Because of this investment, it is unlikely that a significant switch back to oil in the near future will occur.

So the argument is relying on this idea that an investment in natural gas equipment is enough to deter a large switch back to oil. If we were to take away that "investment" element, we would weaken the prediction, no?

C- I confidently chose C during BR because C takes away (or at least severely weakens) the "investment" aspect and allows for natural gas equipment to be cheaper. (Keeping in mind that the cheapness of the equipment is not why people will continue to use it. The investment made in the equipment is why. If we were to make it so that investment no longer was required, then this supporting premise would no longer be sound). Furthermore, it also takes away reason 1 presented above for why people shifted to natural gas in the first place. With the truth of C, we are only left with one supporting premise about "government policies promoting energy conservation" to support the conclusion.

D- Just to recap: the "investment" aspect of natural gas is WHY people are committing to long term usage of it. D says that oil equipment is cheaper, so that "investment" aspect is not present for oil. Therefore, if anything, all the first part of D suggests is that there are no widespread commitments to oil, at least in the same respect as there is for natural gas. Furthermore, with the second part of D, we know that the price of heating with oil is NOW cheaper than the price of heating with natural gas. Admittedly, this does challenged reason 1 for switching from oil to natural gas. However, we don't know that the investment put into the equipment for natural gas does not exceed the current savings of switching to the now-cheaper oil over gas.

For example, if we spent $10,000 on natural gas equipment, and natural gas cost $15 per month (making this up) and, according to D, the cost of oil is now $13 per month, it will take a very long time for the switch to be worth it.

Another point on D, we have no idea how expensive the oil equipment was BEFORE this sharp decrease. The stimulus gives us no information regarding whether the investment in oil equipment was more or less than the investment in natural gas equipment. All we know is 1) oil was expensive, 2) the government wanted us to decrease our usage and 3) the investment in natural gas equipment was significant. It could very well be that the oil equipment was EVEN MORE expensive than the natural gas equipment, but that, the increase in oil price was enough to warrant a switch. So that brings me to my second issue with D...D says the cost of equipment for oil has fallen sharply...okay? Are we supposed to assume that it is now cheaper than natural gas equipment? Are we supposed to assume that this fall in equipment price is substantial enough to convince people to revert back to oil?

Thanks in advance.

Hey 7Sagers, I'm leading another twelve-hour long LR workshop (#3) over four nights (three hours per night) for five students to provide an intensive and comprehensive overview of all foundational concepts and their application to all types of LR questions.

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Wasup 7sage community. So I took my LSAT in February... had been studying for 3 months at that point, but did not feel like I was at my peak. There was definitely room for improvement in all three sections. I still took it, and although I got a solid score, I know I can do better. So I'm deciding to take again and get it right this time...

The thing is, I am taking a two-year gap before law school. Ideally, I want to get solid work experience during this time. I am debating between taking it June or September... and am leaning towards September because the last thing I want is to rush myself again and put myself in a tough situation if I don't perform in June. However, I do not see myself full-time studying for 6 months... I want to look for a full-time internship/position. If I am giving myself 6 months, + the time I have already spent with the exam, is it feasible to hit my goal score range? Basically, is it necessary in the months leading up to the exam to be zeroed in on the LSAT or can solid prep allow for a more relaxed schedule? If anyone has been in a similar situation or can lend some words of wisdom, I would truly appreciate it.

I see them mentioned on here a lot, but, aside from @"Cant Get Right"'s webinars, I rarely see them discussed or practiced much. Could someone explain what they are and how you use them?

Thanks!

Are we allowed to have a water bottle, or a drink within a bottle, outside of our plastic bags and within arms reach during the duration of the test? In other words, are we permitted to drink our beverage in the middle of a section or can we only drink during the brief intervals between sections and during the 15 minute break?

Ok, so I am almost done with the NA portion of the CC and I am lost. I am hit and miss on the "assumption" made in each question. While understanding the conclusion helps, I still can't consistently connect the dots each time. I'm not even timing myself at this point and am still missing theses questions. My mind either can't seem to make even remotely close predictions of what the assumption may be or I just overlook answer choices that I want to hit myself after checking for the correct one because they are so obvious.

Any tips that helped you overcome NA questions?

So while I'm studying for this monster of a test, I sometimes can't tell if I'm getting burned out , or if I'm just not getting it. I'm on strengthening questions currently. When I went through weakening questions, I felt like i grasped the concept fairly easily, but I'm not catching the assumptions nearly as well as I did in the weakening questions as the strengthening questions. Does anyone have any tips/suggestions/diagnosis?

Hello everyone! I hope you are doing well. I was wondering if any of you know of any apps in particular that really help you in places where you cannot study?When I am in the car be driven to work (I live in Saudi) I get car sick from reading, and I am just looking for supplements for when I cannot be staring at problems that are still helpful. TIA!

When taking a timed Logic Game, it's so easy to just write out the rules, look for quick inferences, and dive into the questions with what, at the time, seems like a good understanding of the rules and how they relate to each other. Unfortunately, it often turns out that I forget about a rule or don't catch some key inferences that were deeper than simply chaining rules together (e.g., seeing the deeper J->(F and R) inference in PT23/Section 1/Game 3). Although it's nice to, due to familiarity, remember more rules and see more inferences when re-doing the game in Blind Review, I'd much rather be able to remember and see them the first time.

What best practices do you use to internalize the rules during game board setup to help you remember them?

What best practices do you use for gaining a deeper understanding of the relationships between rules during game board setup?

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Hi! I am struggling to see why D is right over E. When I first solved this Q, I selected D, but after I did BR, I chose E.

D) I initially liked answer D. However, when I reread the stimulus, I focused on the part that says for MANY people, a high consumption of simple carbs will lead to excessive production of insulin. The stimulus says MANY, not ALL. So I thought D was too general/ strong. Maybe for some people, a high intake of simple carb does not lead to excessive production of insulin, and thus fat gain.

E) So this answer talks about people who do NOT produce an excessive amount of insulin. We don't know much about them, but we do know that eating simple carbs would cause less weight gain than those who produce an excessive amount. If they restrict ONLY their consumption of simple carbs, they will not lose weight. -> I thought this was not fully supported, but not entirely wrong. We don't know if they will or will not lose weight. I thought "WILL NOT" is pretty strong.

I view both D and E to be flawed, so I am not sure why D would be a more compelling answer.

What makes D's flaw less fatal? What makes D a more compelling answer?

I listened to JY's explanation and also searched Manhattan forum, and I still can't articulate exactly why D would be a better answer.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-29-section-1-question-08/

Any suggestions for keeping all the flaws straight? Or improving intuition for which flaw will be the winner?

Sometimes the arguments are so bad that I can pick out 3 or more errors in reasoning. This can make it difficult to stay focused in the ACs.

Hi all,

I have a question. I am applying to law school this fall, but am wanting to take some courses as a visiting student at Columbia's MSW program in Spring of 2018. Would I still have to send those transcripts to LSAC/CAS even if I am applying in the fall and will be completely done with applications by December of 2017? I checked online and it said I should send all transcripts, but is the best thing to do just call and ask the schools?

My only concern is risking looking like I don't know what I want to do if I take some MSW courses... the reason being for, honestly, just academic pleasure. I am really interested in social work.

Thanks y'all,

Can anyone comment on the ratio of Easiest, Easier, Medium, Harder and Hardest questions (On the 5 star system) on various sections (RC, LR and LG)?

I can get the easiest to medium questions almost all correct, but I cannot get the harder and hardest questions for the life of me, and I am stressed out about it.

How many harder and hardest questions are we expecting to see on each section?

thanks everyone

Hi everyone!

84 Days left until the June LSAT

I was going through some old discussion points and noticed a weekly thread for review.

Feel free to contribute via your schedule/goal for the weekend and don't hesitate to give me pointers on mine!

Keep going! You're doing great :)

I had a few questions about the rules of actually taking the test in person I was hoping someone could clear up for me.

It's my understanding that you are only allowed to work on the section they tell you to work on and you can't open to any other section whether you've completed it or it's an upcoming one. Is that correct? Meaning, if taking section 2 of the test and the clock is going, you can't look back to section 1 and you can't look forward to 3/4/5.

Second, are the test booklets closed during the break? Am I leave it open to the last page of the last section just completed or do all booklets need to be closed?

Finally, are the scantrons of the actual test the same ones 7sage has for PT's? Meaning are all 5 sections on the same sheet?

Here's what prompted these questions: I was taking a PT today and I had trouble with the last question of section 1. During sections 2 and 3 my mind would wonder back to that question and think about it some more. I then realized why one answer was correct and why the answer I chose was wrong. I thought, damn, I missed that question. But then I realized I could just erase the answer and change it to what I know is the correct answer while I'm taking section 3. I never turned the page of the test booklet back to section 1. The whole reconsidering was done in my head alone. I figured if it's all on the same scantron and I'm not technically working on a different section in the booklet can't I just erase the answer on the section 1 part of the scantron?

If someone could answer these that would be helpful thanks!

Hello,

I am planning on taking the LSAT in December 2017 for August 2018 admissions. I live in Puerto Rico and the school I am planning on attending requires a 150. Which course do you all recommend I take? I have a 3.7 GPA. When should I begin studying?

Thanks!

When I took my diagnostic test, reading comp was my best section , -3. I am an avid reader and thought this part of the test would be the least difficult for me. For a few months, my RC score was consistently my best.

As my studying has intensified, my RC score has suddenly tanked. I recently PTed and got a -9(!!!) in RC. All my other areas have improved significantly, and my PTs are in the high 160s/low 170s. But somehow, my RC score keeps dropping.

It's true that my studying has focused primarily on other areas (formal logic, etc. from the CC, drilling games and LR) but I predicted that this would keep my RC score stagnant, not cause it to collapse.

Has anyone experienced this? What mistake could I be making that wrecks my RC score?

I currently have the Toptier timer lsat watch and it works fine, but im worried I won't have to time reset it in during the actual test. Should I get the more expensive ones (if they're even in stock) or am i fine?

Thanks

Recently, I've been PTing around 164 -167, and my goal for the June test is 170+. LR continues to be my weakest section, and I am remarkably consistent in missing around 5 questions per section. I BR and study the question types I miss after each PT, but I am not finding any patterns in the types of questions I miss. I feel like once I study and master one concept, I miss a question for a question type I previously thought I understood. In my blind review, I am generally able to score -1 or -2 per section.

Any ideas on how to study since I can't exactly pin down one question type as problematic?