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I graduated from my online undergraduate program roughly 5 months ago and have been in the process of finishing up my personal statement, addendum, and resume. Now I was wondering if anyone on here was an Online student at one time and what approach you think I should take in regards to getting one of those precious LOR. Just seems difficult because I have never met my previous professors other than a few emails and discussion boards.

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I am currently starting to go over LR once again to really improve and I want to make changes to how I approach improving each type of question.

This question is applicable to all LR type questions, but I want to know what your routine is for improving a certain type of LR question. Do you do problem sets and then drill an entire LR section. Just problem sets? Timed? Not timed? I think you see where I'm going with this. I've also gone through the CC twice so many of the problem sets are familiar to me and it hurts my objectivity sometimes.

I just want to hear your different ways to about this. Thanks y'all!

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Last comment wednesday, oct 25 2017

LSAC CAS

Hey, guys! I haven't registered for CAS yet. Isn't this where you get your GPA? My undergrad GPA was 3.18 and my GPA from my paralegal certificate is 3.7. Is that considered grad school? Anybody have any insight and can possibly give me a rough estimate of what my GPA would be?

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So since the September scores came out I've tried my very best to keep a positive outlook and mentality. I took a few timed sections and did fairly well (-2/-4 LR, -0 LG, -1 RC) but in the back of my head I can't shake the feeling of that just being a fluke. I feel like I'm somehow cheating myself and that those scores are not really representative of my ability. I justify it by looking at my September results (-13 LR, -0 LG, -7 RC).

I tend to be someone who likes to offer motivation and to be encouraging to others. A lot of the time I'm even able to internalize it myself. But lately that's just not happening.

I now feel like T-14 is not possible for me. As someone with a crap GPA and an LSAT that doesn't impress, I'm just not going to get into the schools I want to. I KNOW I am capable of being successful in law school. I KNOW I could handle a T-14 and their work load. I just feel extremely restricted by my past and have no way of expressing that to these schools in any meaningful manner.

While I understand that a 163 is not a score to laugh at, a 163 coupled with a 2.7 cumulative gpa pushes me really far down the ladder of schools who will consider me. Even with a compelling story (4 years in the Marine Corps, 70 credits of 4.0 after the Marine Corps) I feel there is nothing I can do to make up for my discretion when I was 18/19 other than a high LSAT.

I know no one likes to hear people complain. I know I'm not the only one in a situation like this. I know I need to suck it up and be positive. I just can't seem to flip that switch right now.

I am sorry for the long post. When I try to talk to people in my life about this all, they just don't understand. I'll try not to be too much of a negative Nancy in the community...I just need to get this off my chest.

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Last comment wednesday, oct 25 2017

Wrong Answers to LR Questions

Hey Folks,

I need help with something.

It seems that whenever I get an LR question wrong, it's one of my contenders, but I just don't see the right answerr in the moment. What's especially frustrating is that the correct answer is either immediately before or immediately after the answer that I choose.

Any guidance or tips?

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Hi everyone! So, I have finished all the curriculum and I am doing the December Exam. I am now doing timed sections. So far, my biggest challenge is answering all the questions on time. I missed an average of 2 to 3 questions in each timed section I have done. I am trying to figure out strategies to be faster in going through all the questions. These are the ones I have been trying so far:

  • If I am 100% sure that the answer is correct, I move on to the next question without reading the other answer choices.
  • Be quicker in bubbling the answers. I think if I master bubbling, I'll save 15-20 seconds each section, which I can use to answer a question correctly.
  • Understand the passage during the first read. English is my second language and I work a lot, so sometimes I feel that I have to read the question passage twice to get what they're saying. This is a major time waste.
  • I am sure many others have trouble in finishing sections on time. I am wondering if you guys have used other strategies to improve your performance!

    Thank you!

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    Hi all, during some of July and most of August, I foolprooed 1-35. And then I started to go back through the games immediately after I was done to make sure I could do a full section under timed conditions (I FPed by doing six new games a day, timing each individually and separately). However, I found that I was going -2 or even -3 per section.

    So I stopped. I only looked at games during a PT.

    And y'know what? I've gone either -1 or -0 on every single PT I've taken since (six, so far). FPing is time intensive. I was doing 6 new games two times and then doing the 6 games from the previous day a third time AND 6 games from a week earlier. All in one day, starting at 5am and fitting it in between working 7:45am-5pm. This is all to say that FPing takes a shit ton of work. It is exhausting. But your brain is taking it all in, somehow. So if your plateauing---or even backsliding---take a break. Don't look at a game for two weeks. And then get back on the horse and you'll really see how much you've improved. Of course this is all anecdotal but I just realized today how much that break probably improved my morale.

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    This question tripped me up a bit, not because I didn't understand what I was being asked to do, but because I couldn't really differentiate between some of the answer choices.

    Specifically answer choices C, D and E.

    (C) Prove that there are factors other than number of police officers that are more important in reducing crime....

    (D) Demonstrate that there is no relation between police officers and crime....

    (E) Suggest that the number of police officers is not the only influence on the crime rate....

    I was able to eliminate answer choice C because it said MORE important, which was not the purpose; however, D and E still trip me up.

    I understand that D says number of police and crime rate are not correlated. Which in the stimulus he says;

  • Many major cities have similar ratio of cops to citizen but crime rate diverged widely
  • Which to me suggests they are not correlated.

    I also understand why E can be right. I just think the statistics speak more to D than to E. What am I missing here?

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    Last comment wednesday, oct 25 2017

    conditional statement in LR

    i am in the middle of my CC about the different indicators that are broken down into groups 1-4, however this is my first time studying for the LSAT and i am not sure when i should look for these indicators in the LR. so how do i know when i need to look for these indicator? what would the question look like so i know when to apply the methods i have been learning......

    for example: i know that i need to rephrase the conclusion when i am answering a question that is asking for the main conclusion.

    so what key words should i look for in the question to know that i need to apply my methods from group 1-4 ( i know the groups are just indicator words)

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    Last comment wednesday, oct 25 2017

    Advice needed

    My strong sections are LR and RC, and weak is LG. Right now I am finished the CC - aside from LG. What should I do,focus on LG for a few weeks, to the exclusion of other sections, or do LG and start doing timed practice sections...and then when I am done with the LG in CC, do complete PT's? I do not think it is a good idea to focus too much on LG because A: It only makes up a quarter of the exam, and B. I can focus on and reinforce my strong sections. Thoughts? Advice? I test in December.

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    Last comment wednesday, oct 25 2017

    Question on Fool proofing LG

    I am starting to Fool proof LG. However, sometimes I remember the answer choice from watching the video, so I choose it automatically. Anyone have similar experiences, and any way to solve this?

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    Ok, I might be exaggerating when I say "punish prephrases," but I noticed that the prephrases, especially for the flaw/ assumption type questions, don't work as well in the recent PTs ( 70s up) compared to the older ones (the ones we used for CC). Also, prephrases make me to be a bit inflexible in considering answer choices (I am too quick to eliminate those that do not fit my prephrase), which hurts me as a result.

    Most of the prephrases I used for older PT flaw Qs/ assumption Qs were right on, so I just picked the right answer quickly and moved on. With the newer PTs, I see that my prephrases attract me to trap answers. It seems better to leave the AC that matches my prephrase well as a contender (as opposed to choosing it and moving on) and REALLY carefully consider every other answer choice. I found that I do better in the recent PTs when I don't prephrase at all. Rather, I focus on EXACTLY what the conclusion is and stay open minded. Then, I see if the answer choice weakens/ negates the conclusion (in case if the Q type is flaw/ weaken for example).

    Maybe prephrasing isn't to fault at all; maybe the recent PTs just punish those who are inflexible and expect the answer choice to have a certain form. Or maybe I don't have a solid prephrasing skill, but wasn't punished at all in older PTs, but am in newer ones.

    Either way, does anyone else perceive a similar trend? What do you think about the utility of prephrasing in general?

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    I hear that some schools periodically admit students once applications are available and the longer you wait, the less seats available. Keeping that in mind along with my dissatisfaction with my September score, should I pursue the exam in December although I think I could perform better in February?

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    I seem to be paralyzed when it comes to timed tests and am wondering if changing my approach might help. I have now taken 4 practice tests and scored roughly the same on all of them - a 154 and 3 152s. Now, my Blind Review scores are 162-166, so I know I can do much better, but seem to get tripped up by the time. In my job, I preach following the procedure untimed to reproduce it accurately and confidently, then speed comes with practice. I wonder if it would make sense here as well to go through the full test a few times untimed, but monitoring where I am at specific points, to get used to the process before diving right into timed PTs immediately after finishing the curriculum. How have others approached this? I'm scheduled to take the December test and want to make the best use of my time to maximize my potential. Thanks in advance.

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    Last comment tuesday, oct 24 2017

    Temperature and LSAT

    Hi all,

    Right now we are going through a heatwave and its 105F in Southern California. I have been thinking if its a good idea to take preptests in less than optimal temperatures like not using the AC during hot weather like this? I know testing centers tend to blast the AC but I want to prepared foe anything.

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    "Success is not final, failure is not fatal; it is the courage to continue that counts."

  • Winston Churchill
  • Michel Scott
  • LSATcantwin
  • Since the September test and score release I have been really struggling to pull myself out of a slump. Thanks to this community and the encouragement that I've gotten I can say I am feeling better and back at my studying. Thank you for being awesome people.

    The biggest take away from my experience is that you can never stop preparing. There will be no moment when you become an LSAT god and score 180 on every test with 10min to spare each section. Perfection is not the goal, accuracy is. Everybody, even masters like J.Y., still make mistakes on this test. The only tool we have in our bag is how prepared we are to take it.

    Which leads me to truly believe that every single one of us is capable of achieving our dream score on the LSAT. Because this test is all about how prepared, experienced, and confident you are in yourself; we are all able to do what we set our minds to. It might take different amounts of time from one person to the next, but it's 100% doable.

    So if you are ever frustrated by a section, question, passage or game, remind yourself that it is a learning opportunity. Tell yourself that since you've seen it before you will never let yourself fall for that trap again. Eventually the LSAT will start having less and less tricks up its sleeve to throw you off. Your confidence will continue to grow, and you'll have more experience under your belt.

    Here's to all my re-takers, first timers, past/future successes.

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    I took the September 2017 LSAT and didn’t do as well as I wanted. I just did a blind review and did slightly better, but I tracked my incorrect answers and discovered that the ones I miss are where I have the choices narrowed down to 2: the right answer and a wrong one. But I consistently pick the wrong one. Is there a way to fix this?

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    Hey just wondering if anyone else is having trouble loading the applications on LSAC for Yale and Harvard? I've tried multiple times on different days and it won't let me load the application. I thought it might be because of volume of people applying.

    Any thoughts? Anyone else successfully uploaded or submitted?

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    Last comment tuesday, oct 24 2017

    RC Question types

    I am trying to sink my teeth deep into RC and i am starting to realize i dont have a solid understanding of what every question type requires

    Author inference questions (which view would the author most likely agree with)

    Is this a MBT? Or more like an MSS?

    Is the answer in the passage?

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    Hi all,

    I studied abroad via a popular US program run out of Butler University in the United States (IFSA-Butler) [http://www.ifsa-butler.org/for-alumni/transcript-information.html]. I though that, since Butler University is a US institution and was issuing a US transcript, LSAC would accept these credits as part of my undergraduate record.

    Has anyone had success with IFSA-Butler specifically, or with other study abroad programs in general?

    Many thanks!

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    "Has there ever been an interruption of one or more terms in your education for any reason?"

    Is this asking about whether or not I took a semester off or transferred schools? Or are they asking about an interruption in the middle of a semester? My inclination is that a term refers to a semester, but I'm not 100% certain.

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