I took the September 2017 LSAT and unfortunately didn't perform up to my potential. For various reasons, my undergraduate career thus far has been hectic and extremely time consuming. To be on the path of graduating in the normal time-slot of four years, I took five classes in a seven week summer semester and tried studying for the LSAT at the same time. Realizing my enormous mistake, I decided not to take the June LSAT, took the September LSAT, and didn't do as well as I should have. Given my extenuating circumstances and how I want to graduate undergrad this April, I am in a full course load right now and will be in the winter as well. My desire to go to a top law school is strong and I will study as efficiently as possible for an exemplary test score. That being said, I would love some feedback on how efficient the LSAT premium 7sage course is and if it will more than likely help me in achieving a higher score. A 20 point increase on the February 2017 LSAT would be great in my case, as I plan to be in an entering law school class of 2018. Any thoughts, experiences, and opinions would be awesome.

Hey everyone,

Hope Grey day went well for you all. I got a 165 which I am a bit disappointed in seeing as though my average is right around a 170 with ~11 PT's taken. I went -9 LR, -1 LG, and -8 RC. I have a 3.95 GPA but I'm pretty sure I'm going to need a better LSAT score to get into a T-14 school (tell me if I'm wrong there).

My plan is to take a PT every week and switch to every other week if it gets to be too much. I'm planning on continuing my fool proofing of each game for each PT that I take. This, combined with in depth BR for the LR and RC sections will hopefully be enough for me to crack into the 170's come December.

Let me know what you think of my situation and of my plan for the upcoming months. Any suggestions are really appreciated!

Hi there! My GPA is 3.58 and my Sept. 2017 score is 167. I wanted to submit my application earlier than December, but it seems that my chances for UCLA and USC are below 50% with these numbers (and probably $0 scholarship if I did get in). I have 8 years of work experience in the legal field. Should I start studying again? Thanks!!

My September score is leaving me in purgatory.

I got a 170 and I have a 3.57 GPA. I want to apply ED to UChicago (I know, it's a reach) while applying to Michigan, Duke, Virginia, Penn, Northwestern, and Cornell.

Looking on Law School Numbers, even a 175 (my PT average) in December wouldn't do much for my application chances anywhere, and would marginally help with scholarship money. My thoughts are if Chicago were going to reject me, seeing that I'm taking in December would at least get me waitlisted.

I'm in the middle of a gap year and I burnt myself out going into the September test, and I don't want to go through it again.

What should I do?

any advice?

I've been studying off and on for a month and am on the fence about sitting for December. I took my first test prep a couple weeks ago and scored a 156. I'll have the Ultimate Package kick in for 15 months soon and could really see it being beneficial to hone in on some of the drills that were previously locked. I also purchased the LSAT Trainer and have yet to go through that.

But I'm also not currently working until the December test date, so I don't know if it's worth giving it a shot in this concentrated amount of time and if it'd be possible to improve 5-9 points within 6ish weeks with no other responsibilities. I'm teaching English abroad under a Fulbright for ten months starting in January, and my host country doesn't offer the February date. I was also an accounting major and am done with 1/4 cpa exams with a retake coming up on the 20th. So I've been torn about whether to go all in on the LSAT or to look to take a 3rd section test before I leave. Any advice/guidance from my fellow 7Sagers would be greatly appreciated.

My target schools would be USC, UCLA, Arizona State, or Northwestern if I could possibly possibly bump my scores up. I had a 3.98 GPA and some solid EC's, but I haven't been in test-taking mode in quite some time. So not sure what I should realistically set my target scores for.

Just got my scores and I was looking on the LSAC website regarding each schools 25-75% and was curious as to what a splitter is? lets say your LSAT is in the 25% but your GPA is in the 75% does that make you a splitter ?

Hey guys,

So I wanted some feedback on my study plan leading up to the December test. I have finished the CC and am working to fool proof the LG games in the CC. I have also started drilling down different question types. My strongest section is between LR and LG, while my worst section is RC.

I plan on studying for 30-40 hours a week, hence this is what I aim to do (keeping in mind that I am currently not working or going to school, however I do volunteer 15-20 hours a week):

For the month of October:

Daily: 4 LG games using fool proof method

Drill 2 different question types of LR

2 RC Passages? (not sure how to tackle this section, worst section by far, HELP!)

I plan to really focus on getting the strategy down for each section and most importantly getting questions CORRECT in October.

Weekly:

1 PT every weekend.

For the month of November:

Daily: Timed LR Section, Timed LG Section, Timed LR Section

2(min)-3(max) PTs a week while also doing timed sections in between with BR.

I plan to really focus on timing and stamina for the month of November.

What do you guys think?

Is this study plan reasonable? My target score is 165+, currently scoring 157. Any suggestions are welcome!

Thank you in advance!

I just got my score and I decided to take the December test. I started off last year with a Cold diagnostic of 128 and now I ended up 6 points below the median for the law school I want to go to (152). Right now I feel discouraged, and talking to other people like friends and family isn’t helping since they don’t know the struggle of this test and how to relate. So now I'm signing up for December and I need advice on how to approach this test with a smart study plan. I still have to finish the CC with reading comp, but other than that any advice or general or specific would be greatly appreciated.

Hi,

How does one's political views affect one's chances at admission, especially to elite schools which tend to lean left? I wouldn't say I'm a liberal, by today's standards of what constitutes left at least; if one defines "liberal" as "one who values liberty", then yes I am a liberal. However, I try to understand both sides of the political spectrum without being wedded to any particular ideology. By no means am I what many have called the "alt-right", however, there are some views that they hold that I am sympathetic towards; in particular, I believe that it is necessity to guard the freedom of speech. There are, of course, reasons for me to be sympathetic towards this idea: language evolves. To legislate on what constitutes "appropriate" speech is to attempt to directly and consciously control the evolution of language. If I were to reject this notion, I would have to reject the liberal value of liberty, which is distinct from license. Thus, to remain a liberal, it seems that I must defend, what is now considered to be, a conservative ideal.

In short, I am a centrist. But it seems that being a centrist, especially in this politically charged climate, would hurt my chances. Am I correct in being concerned?

I was panicking the whole day waiting for my score only to find out that my score release is on hold bc of a fee waiver I applied for law school apps. I’m so frustrated...has anyone else experienced this?

I just wanted my score and move on with life.

Since grey day is upon us, I just wanted one last day to rant about judicial candor.

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I have 3 former professors who agreed to write LORs for me. Can I pick just 2 to send to law schools even after all 3 submit their letters to LSAC? I got the third letter just in case as a backup and don't want to send it if I don't have to..

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I just got my score back from the September test. I did well enough to get into the schools I want to, but I was scoring right around the 25th - median percentile range. I scored a 154 but I would love to get to a 160 for the December test date. I haven't finished all the core curriculum and I want to really focus my studies for this upcoming test since I am still a college student taking a full class load and working. Any suggestions on where I should focus my studies or what the best routine should be?

Hi everybody,

Now that I am finished with the CC, I was wondering how people with only the starter pack went about their LR drilling, since they don't have the LR bundle. Should I just mute the CC videos and try to quickly figure out the answers on my own? Should I type them up and save them (like I did with LG that weren't apart of a problem set?) I know some people just use the starter pack and succeed, so basically my question is how? I may upgrade to Premium in the next week but even so, I thought I should seek advice from more experienced 7sagers.

Hey all,

Grey day has not been kind to me. I had a question about strategically applying ED places. I've heard rumors that ED applications have deflated standards for their students. Is this true?

To be perfectly transparent, I was thinking of applying to Columbia ED. I got a 167 on the September Exam - below Columbia's 25th percentile; but I have a 3.9 GPA - well above Columbia's 75th percentile.

Do you think a strategic ED application may increase my chances/plausibly get me in?

Thanks,

Paul

"First, here are a few undisputed facts about Robert Pruett. He is 38 years old, and has spent every single day of his life in prison since the age of 15. The crime for which he was convicted at that age—the murder of a neighbor—was in fact committed by Robert’s father, Sam Pruett. The prosecution’s theory was that, even though the senior Pruett actually stabbed the victim, Robert was present and liable as an accomplice. At an age when many children have just finished middle school, Robert was given a 99-year sentence in the Texas penitentiary."

On Thursday, Texas plans to execute him. Edit They are executing him for the murder of a jail guard, the case for which is circumstantial.

I find this story abhorrent. But it is very important to read, not to mention how well it is written.

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2017/10/the-autobiography-of-robert-pruett

Grey alert!!!!!!

Hello, Im in the beginning stage of writing my personal statement, however i am having super writer's block and i'm stuck. I dont know what direction i should take my essay. Its so difficult because i am a career changer , from medical to law and all my experience are medical related. so if there is anyone who would like to review it and maybe throw some ideas in that would be helpful.

Prep Test 70 really smashed me in the teeth. Timed, it demolished me. So far, during blind review, it's eating me away. I just BRed both LR sections and got a combined -13.

Only got -6 on RC timed which is odd because RC is my weakness. Haven't BRed RC or LG yet, but man, so for me, PT70 is humbling me just when I thought I was improving steadily.

Hey everyone,

October is halfway over and we only have a month and a half left before our December test! So lets keep working hard and lets get our dream score. (3(/p)

This week we will be going over PT 70. Both session will be taking place on the weekend at 7 pm (eastern time). I was finally able to get that time slot open. :)

We will be doing the same thing as last time. Please do the test timed and bring a blank, unmarked copy to the review session. We will be going over the questions. For Reading comprehension, please arrive on time. Once the session starts, unless we do two passages, there is literally no way to stop and review everything if you arrive late. :(

Also, not a lot of people showed up to the RC session and that's okay. If there is not a lot of interest in RC again this time, I will no longer do these session. So if you are interested, please do show up.

I am posting below the link to the meeting. I'll see you all there! (3(/p)

70 Plus Series (December LSAT Study Group)

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So in the wait for scores to come out, I have a discussion starter!

What school would you pay sticker for?

No arguing about others' decisions/opinions please, this is just for fun while we wait for scores or this is a distraction from your studies! :D

Hey all,

I'm concerned about something in my personal statement. So I'm basically writing about my family's refugee story and how that pushed me to go into law.

I was originally going to be a doctor (my mom wanted a doctor in the family to take care of her when she gets older), but through some experiences in college regarding racial discrimination and then the rhetoric of the 2016 election, I found myself called to pursue law - specifically immigrant law, public policy, etc. Appropriately, I took ~1 year off school to work on the presidential campaign - hence sparking my transition from pre-med to pre-law.

I am worried though about talking about the 2016 election, specifically about Trump's immigrant rhetoric. I'm worried about making any politically charged statements and any backlash I may face in the admissions boardrooms. What do you all think? I would be respectful of course, but I'm worried just mentioning it could be bad.