Hello everyone,

I am set to take the September LSAT and have been studying content since early May. I finished the core curriculum about a month ago and have been getting in the low 140s. Should I start reconsidering? Anyone have any successful review methods after core curriculum?

So I just took PT 64 under timed conditions, with a experimental section and everything, and I scored a 176!!!!!

Which is should be, and was, extremely satisfying and encouraging with D day less than 2 weeks out.

However, I missed 4 questions on the same logic game, which is all that separated me from the holy grail, a 180. I haven't yet looked back at the game to find out where it fell apart, but obviously that's priority numero uno. I'm guessing that I'm misread a rule, or diagrammed something incorrectly, because surely I couldn't have made such gratuitous errors in the midst of such a smashing performance. Right?

Anyway, just humble-bragging for a second, but also I shall update once I've identified my betrayer and can make an informed plea for assistance in avoiding such traps in the future.

Eat, Drink and be Merry, Happy Labor day Americans!

Hey 7Sagers!

I just got my acceptance letters from both University of Melbourne (JD) and University of Sydney in Australia! These are the only two applications I have submitted so far, as North American ones do not open until August-November. I am planning to apply to North American ones as well once they open, but I was just wondering what your thoughts are on some of the pros and cons when deciding between a JD in Australia and one in Canada.

I am originally from Europe, so the "remote" location is not an issue for me and furthermore I am not sure whether I'd want to come back to Canada to practice once I'm done (I'm somewhat of a go-everywhere and explore everything type of person) but I am wondering if any of you have heard of grad-employment rates and whether they are better in Canada v. Australia, or other things such as harshness of grading scales, etc. Just anything that would help me with my choice really...

Thank you in advance everyone :)

Hey guys,

Was just curious how people here deal with confidence blows when writing PTs. I notice that sometimes if I struggle on one section during a PT (especially if it is one of the early sections), sometimes it is hard to shake the confidence blow and that feeling it can carry into the other sections.

I have some little techniques I do to work with this, but just wondering how others deal with confidence blows in ways that help them get up quickly after feeling knocked off center.

Hi,

I'm pretty comfortable with the RC passages about science as I've watched JY's lessons about finding the opposing arguments, hypothesis, evidence, theory, low to high res annotations. Just wondering if there are any tips specific to passages about old Art as well? Because the LSAT puts a lot of passages about 14th century art or something like that.

I have the impression that passages 3/4 tend to be more difficult than 1/2 - does anyone know if this is the case? Or am I just projecting because I tend to be stressing out as the clock runs by this time?

If 3 & 4 are, in fact, more difficult, would anyone recommend doing them first? Then going back and hitting 1& 2?

Hey all.

I've noticed the more recent exams have a lot of difficult necessary assumption questions. Another thing I noticed was that these questions frequently have conditional statements as wrong answer choices, while the right answer choice is most often just a direct statement.

If I'm choosing between two good sounding ACs on a PT, but one is conditional and the other is a direct statement, do you all think the direct statement is more likely to be true?

It seems to me that the conditional statements are very often sufficient assumption answer choices, while the direct statements are necessary.

Thanks

Hi everyone,

So I was wondering, since the PT's available in the Starter Course are kind of old, how accurate would they be in estimating my performance on the December LSAT?

Hey 7Sage,

12 days until the Sept exam, WOOT! I am seeking advice on what PTs to do in the next two weeks. I have already done nearly

all the exams. My only completely untouched exams are old exams -- 39 and 44. Maybe also 10 and 13. Thus, I don't think I should focus on those in the next two weeks, although they are new to me. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I think I want to look at the newest PTs again, since they're nuanced compared to older tests. I have done 70-72 and 75-80 once each. I figure I will do 3 more before the 16th. Should I do 78-80? Does it matter? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

A reoccurring nightmare of mine is to wake up on September 16 and drive to Starbucks and to accidentally lock my keys in my car (with my ID and admissions ticket) or have my battery die or get a flat tire. It's a somewhat irrational fear, since I've locked my keys in the car once in my life and have never gotten a flat tire.

I did, however, have my battery die once. The day before the June 2017 test actually (Thank God I had postponed my registration weeks before anyways).

This lovely Labor Day morning, 11 days before the September test, I was going about my normal PT morning routine to realize that I left my experimental section at my boyfriends' house (he has an awesome office so I sometimes use his office to study). I called him and asked him to bring my manilla folder out to me so I can just swing by and quickly return to my normal route. So I drive by to grab it and notice that I have some unwanted garbage in my car, so I get out to grab the garbage and dispose of it, only to lock my keys inside my running car. To my dismay, my spare keys are packed away somewhere (I am currently in the process of moving, so many things are packed away in boxes) and now I have to find a lock smith at 6:30am on Labor Day. With no luck.

I called the police department, no luck. I called the Sheriff's office and they were willing to help. So we waited about 30 minutes when a very kind officer came and broke into my car.

But then I noticed that my experimental section was not in the manilla folder. I searched frantically for it, to no avail. I must have left it on my desk at work? Who knows...so with limited PTs scheduled in my future and this being one of the final ones, my Type A personality got the best of me and I started to panic at my loss of control over the situation. I went back to my house to try and find a section-any section-but most of my old LSAT books are used and, therefore, I packed them away thinking that, from this point on, I'll only need the newer stuff. But then I decided to take miscellaneous questions from some practice material I gathered for my warm up and create a custom experimental section. So now I have a hand-made experimental section consisting of 2 LGs and 2 RCs. I may have taken them in the past too- I don't recall haha. Better than nothing I guess?

I've had a lot of weird things happen during a PT morning (one time, I kid you not, a bird flew into me at Barnes and Noble during a PT. Apparently a bird had gotten in the building and then saw the girl trying to study for the LSAT and figured that I was a good target to attack), but this morning really threw me off.

Nonetheless, I am about to go take PT78 with my customized experimental section. It's much later than I usually start and my mental game is a bit thrown off, but I guess I have to prepare for anything right? Including being attacked my birds and have my worst nightmare come to fruition during my PTs (even though, if that happened on September 16, I would, without hesitation, break my car window. This is war, people.)

Hey Guys,

I always get confused when we have a group 3 and 4 word. For instance, PT 69, part 4, question 21, answer choice D.

So, we have /published AND important and well written (The published is negative and crossed out)

How would I take it from here since we have unless and not. I went through the lessons, and it said I can make either one negative. So I will make published positive and keep important and well written. So this answer choice would read.. if published----> is important and well written.

Is this correct?

In JYs video explanations, he says that the last 2 aren't applicable to the modern lsat. Given what the exam has been up to in recent years on logic games, do you think that statement still stands? I went -4 in this section and usually do -0/-1 so it threw me for sure.

So for this one I was having a lot of trouble because I couldn't see how any of the answers could be true based off the stimulus. Can someone explain this question to me please? Ty!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-79-section-1-question-20/

Hi

should I use past or present tense to describe my current job in resume?

Also, should I include hours per week? I did include them but they seem to clutter the page a little so I am considering removing them and keep the page as clean as possible.

Thanks! :)

Hi!

For people who took the June LSAT and ticked off "yes" for the CRS service on LSAC, have you been getting merit-based fee waiver email notifications from law schools? I heard that the schools find potential candidates via CRS and start sending them fee waivers sometime after the LSAT scores come out.

Thanks!

Will this be a problem? The last PT I will attempt before September 16 will then be December 2014 one ... Am I missing out on a lot?

Does the statement "Most useful" connote that there is more than one AC that could help but we are tasked at finding the most useful?. If this is painfully obvious, i apologize. But i have learnt to not take anything for granted on this test. Thanks

Nathaniel

I have had some major struggles with weakening questions lately. After drilling this question type, I realized that weakening questions simply state the flaw in the argument. Because of this, would it be a bad approach to find the flaw in the argument and, rather then descriptively describing it, anticipate this flaw as an answer choice that exposes it?

Thank you for reading!

I have been trying to stick to the group 1-4 method. Previously, if I read "except" I would make what follows the necessary condition and then simply negate the remaining and make that the sufficient. For example, "Mark goes to school except on Sunday" would be /MGS--->Sun and /Sun-->MGS. So my question is do you guys categorize "except" in group 3? Negate the sufficient? What about this example, "Mark does NOT go to school EXCEPT on Sunday." I would again, choose except as the indicator, make what follows the necessary, and negate the remaining and get MGS-->Sun and /Sun-->/MGS. I am trying to rewire my brain with JY's computer algorithm, but "except" is the only glitch.

Hey all! I find that often during BR for LR I am still stuck between 2 answers, so I'm wondering what everyone does to try and push through to the correct answer choice while in BR. Do you look up an explanation of the question/JYs video without looking at the answer or look through your notes for help? Or do you just push through without looking at other sources?

But if anyone has any tips on how they BR LR that would be awesome to know as I find BR LR very tiring haha!

Thanks everyone!!

Hi,

Don't know if I'm abusing my limit of posting on the discussion forum but pls have mercy.

Could someone, anyone, possibly walk me through a typical PT review, one that emphasizes quality and allows me to gain the most traction for future PTs. I can't seem to adopt a specific ritual. Please share your techniques! I do the logic games again, do the LR questions I got wrong, try to see why I got them wrong, and do the RC passage I skipped (since I only attempt 3/test). For example, how long do you professionals wait until reviewing the test after writing? Teach me your ways!

I'm writing for the September 16, 2017 test and hoping to squeeze in a few tests during the next two weeks. Could you guys also possibly recommend a specific number of tests I should try to reach while maintaining good practices of reviewing to ensure a good score on test day?

Thanks again! You guys rock!

Hey guys!

I had my LSAT break through a few days ago and I wanted to share. After studying for 4 months, I decided to postpone writing the LSAT until the December sitting.

I've been having the most inconsistent scoring these last few weeks, from 155's-175's and yesterday I BR'd at a flipping 180. I'm at that awkward stage where I understand the logic behind it, but not consistently enough to trust myself to write the LSAT. A little disappointed, because it's daunting to know that this test will be my life for another 3 months, but I think I'm making the right decision, since my dream school is Columbia (and Harvard but it seems crazy to write that).

So, I'm heading back to the CC after taking this weekend off and will be drilling each LR question type (where I struggle) in between each lesson + webinars when available. I want to focus on studying the structure of each question types, and understand wrong answer choices. My goal is to get through the CC+ drilling in September, so that I have two months to PT and get that 175+ in December. I've been hearing a lot of back and forth about whether or not schools care about multiple sittings, and my take on it is this tests matters too much for me to risk a sloppy take. I'm confident in my softs (I'm an investigative journalist focusing on national security + won national awards for my work + other things), so I don't think applying later will hurt too much. I didn't want to apply ED anyways, because a Columbia adviser said they almost never give scholarships to people who apply binding. Being Canadian, and paying international fees, I definitely don't want to pay law school entirely on loans.

SO, basically, if anyone in Toronto want's to go through a little LSAT bootcamp with me, along with exercising and eating right, hit me up :)

Hi there,

I've finished all the prep-tests (35-81) but still want to try out some timed sections with questions I've had no exposure to. I just found these random Preptests in the Analytics list, but am not sure how to access them. Do they come with the Ultimate package?

Hey 7Sagers, I'm leading BR calls for PT 81 (June 2017 LSAT).

I'm holding 12 sessions total. 4 for each of LR 1, LR 2, and RC. Each session will focus on only one section of PT 81.

All sessions will start at 7:30p ET and end at 9:30p.

Multiple sessions are meant to accomodate people's various schedules and to reduce class size per session.

What happens in these sessions?

I'll ask students to state which questions were circled for BR. We'll work through the questions the group nominates. I generally try to ask students questions to elicit the right response. Please wear headphones and try to be in a quiet place.

How should I prepare?

Take PT 81 and have the questions you'd like to BR ready. The first thing I'll ask everyone is which questions they'd like to BR.

Next Session

9/6 Wednesday - Section 1 - RC, Passages 3 and 4

7:30p - 9:30p ET

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Obtaining PT 81

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Past Sessions

8/26 Saturday - Section 2 - LR

8/27 Sunday - Section 3 - LR

8/28 Monday - Section 1 - RC, Passages 1 and 2

8/29 Tuesday - Section 2 - LR

8/30 Wednesday - Section 3 - LR

8/31 Thursday - Section 1 - RC, Passages 3 and 4

9/1 Friday - Section 2 - LR

9/2 Saturday - Section 3 - LR

9/3 Sunday - Section 1 - RC, Passages 1 and 2

9/4 Monday - Section 2 - LR

9/5 Tuesday - Section 3 - LR