I have a hunch that the priority value, be it 0.6, 1.2, etc., is a numerical representation that reflects the expected number of problems of whatever type that you would miss on an upcoming exam. Is this correct?

So we've all been working hard to get to our desired LSAT score...Countless hours of learning new things only to make small improvements in hopes of getting into our desired school. At the end of the day, you own the LSAT, it does not own you. No matter your score, at the end of the day, this is a very small step within the bigger picture called life.

The LSAT does not determine your self worth. Whether you get a 180 or a 140, you're still on the right track. Pick yourself up and go into battle.

I'm having a lot of difficulty understanding why B is the correct answer here. After watching the explanation I see why the other answers are incorrect, but I really want to understand why B is wholly correct...hopefully that makes sense. I see that Dana would disagree with B. She thinks that the learning a child is accustomed to should ALWAYS dictate teaching methods. Thus, a child should not learn (or at least all children should not learn) to adapt.

I fail to see why Pat would necessarily agree with B, given the text itself. Pat only say that it is not ALWAYS the case that accustomed styles of learning should dictate what method is used (maybe sometimes that is the case though...). He would agree that it is NOT wrong (it is correct) to think that that the same educational methods should be used with all children. Why does this necessarily mean he would agree that ALL children should learn to adapt to various educational methods? Couldnt there be some children that can't learn under certain methods, such as group learning. He doesnt have any universal statements in his disagreement...he just disagrees with Dana's universal statement.

Also, if anyone has tips on point of issue questions such as this it would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks so much in advance!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-32-section-4-question-20/

Hi- I'm curious how everyone organizes their LSAT material. Binder etc? I end up with papers everywhere. I have a stack of random passages that I did and corrected etc then some practice tests but I end up doing so many questions it's a challenge to keep everything organized.

I'm having trouble with them. Any advice?

In one lesson, Jy says, the contapositive of "If Tom plays then Jerone and Simmi play too", is " If Jerone and Simmi do not play, then Tom won't play". However, it can be that J and S can play, even though T does not. If it would say "Only if Tom, then..", then ok I agree with this. But I do not understand why it cannot be that J and S can play, even though T does not?

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is it logically valid to conclude that if A-->B, then A+C -->B?

I am reviewing S3 Q19 from PT 51.

The correct AC seems to mobilize this reasoning.

Hello everyone,

I feel as if I've hit a low point in my prep.

I am scheduled to review question types: MC, MSS, Causation-Phenomenon-Hypothesis, MBT and the 9 Valid Arg Forms, and Mastering the Memory Method for RC with Daniel' approach @danielznelson.

I started looking at LG to get a sense of the moving pieces on the board in sequencing, but I am getting a bit disenchanted that I can't upgrade to Ultimate+ so that I can have access to all the games in one place. It really sucks, actually, since I'm beginning to understand the strategies.

I think I fell to an all-time low on Saturday night when I realized that though I was able to finance a new car for work, and while I'm happy to have it, all I could think about was how it sucks that I still can't upgrade to Ultimate+ and what will the car loan mean for law school financial aid in 2018-2019?

I missed my Friday session because I was at the dealership, and today I'm out of it. Am I overthinking this ???

Okay so I bought The LSAT Trainer book and read just the RC section and did the practice drills. Well, I took my first full length timed RC section (PT 47) and scored absolutely horrible! missing 6/8 more than normal. Is PT 47 just unusually hard or did I screw up my RC strategies?

I have taken PT J07, 36,37,38,52,60. I have only enough time for 16 more tests. Which should I take before the September LSAT?

Hi everyone,

I hope everyone had a great weekend. I wanted to post to get some advice from all of you, especially those who have managed studying and working full-time at the same time.

To give a little background, I currently work at a job that I've been at for a little more than a year. Unfortunately, I work in consulting and my hours are not always necessarily the typical 9-5PM. There are times when I get out at 7-8. On really bad days, I get out even later (although this hasn't happened recently). At this time, I'm not sure quitting my job to study is an option because financially, that may not be feasible. I am planning on taking the September LSAT (my third try) and I'm feeling completely overwhelmed. I'm trying my best to maintain both studying and work, but it's hard to put full effort into either. I've been getting a lot of crap from my bosses about how I haven't been communicative enough or proactive enough. At the same time, my scores don't seem to be improving too much (in fact, they seem to be going down). I was scoring in the 170s before the June test, but now my scores are back down to the 167-169 range.. Ideally, I'd REALLY like to take the September test just because I'm planning on applying this year and because the LSAT has already taken up so much of my time.

For those who have gone through this before (and for anyone else who's been overwhelmed by this test), how do you handle this? Any advice on how I should approach this or anything from your own experiences you think would help?

Thanks all for reading this long message!!

Hey does anyone have any experience at this testing center? I can't find any reviews. Thanks in advance!

Hi everyone,

So i've been posting here semi-often these last two weeks as I work through the CC. I'm just over the 30% mark in material and I decided to take a timed LR section today. I took the June exam and got a 154 and the test we did at the beginning of CC got a 154 as well. I missed roughly -10/-11 on each LR section and even blind reviewed the same. Today I missed -11 and blind reviewed -8. Two questions I still felt foggy about, so I was ok with them being wrong. To say I was disappointed still is a bit of an understatement. I won't relive the gory details but I had a small kitten who has never seen anyone upset in my face and a friend show up with an entire container of ice-cream (I didn't eat the whole thing but I thought about it).

Can I do better by September? I feel so discouraged that this stuff just doesn't want to stick and even more upset that answers I felt like I could totally justify were plain wrong. I don't really want to postpone my exam to December for a multitude of reasons but I need a better score. I've just been doing the CC but should I start mixing in drilling? PTs? Timed PTs? I think I just need to put in more hours every week so if anyone if willing to give me a schedule to follow every day I will happily oblige.

Send help, good vibes, prayers to whoever you believe in, advice, funny memes, etc.

I currently work 9-5 on weekdays, in addition to a few hours on both Saturday and Sunday morning. My weekend work is pretty physically demanding, so I'm kind of tired after even though those shifts are quite short. This has been going on since the beginning of my LSAT prep in late May. I generally take practice tests around 7pm or later, or, on the weekends, after a tiring morning; I know this is far from ideal, as many recommend making Saturday morning your PT time.

Has anyone had a similar experience re: only taking PTs when already tired? I will have some actual time off in 2 weeks, so I'll be able to PT when I'm fresh in the morning at that point, but I'm curious as to whether it'd be unreasonable to expect a little improvement in my performance simply because of the increased energy. I realize this might very well be extremely wishful thinking, but I figured I'd ask.

I should note that I've gotten some great, and some really not great, scores on days that I'm exceptionally tired…maybe there really is no correlation?

Thanks in advance for any insights you might be able to share---so grateful for this community!

p.s. in case anyone suggests I PT before work, it's just not feasible. My commute isn't incredibly long but I don't sleep well at night--getting up at 5 to PT before my commute isn't worth it.

Hello everyone!

So I recently purchased the LG Powerscore Bible since I have not had much practice with logic games and I really needed some type of guidance to get me started. I finished the workbook within 3 days and I was just wondering if the LG Powerscore Bible covers everything well or if it just introduces us to the easier games?

I feel pretty good now that I have completed the workbook, however I don't want to get too excited especially if the questions and games in the book are some of the easier batch and don't cover everything that we might tackle on test day. Now that I have completed the workbook, I will be starting to do the LG games and follow the 7Sage method (ie. printing 10 games/BR method, although I think I am going to focus on this method since I save a lot of paper and I save a lot of time doing all the games.

https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/2737

I am writing the LSAT in September, or well at least that is what I hope for. If I feel I'm not ready by September, I will definitely take the December test since I do not want to rush myself.

Also, which games would you guys recommend if I am a bit on a time crunch? I work only once a week and don't have any other activities planned for the month so I aim to study 7-8 hours 6 days a week. I have just got down logic games. I will be now moving on to RC and LR in terms of learning strategy in the core curriculum (Yes, I'm weird.. I did all the logic game sections in the CC before going on to LR and RC since I took Kaplan previously).

Any advice would be great! Thank you!

Hey 7Sagers!

In terms of submitting LOR to LSAC - once the professor gets the link, do they submit only one LOR and then we distribute the same letter to each law school? Or do they need to provide multiple/ tailor each LOR to the school...? Let's say you're applying to five, do you ask your professor for five? So lost....

Thanks YALL.

How can I print out a bunch of logic games that is the least time consuming?

Hey! I will be taking the test in December and I'm looking for someone to BR with. If you live in the DC area and are interested, let me know!

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I am almost done learning LR as part of the CC. JY uses diagrams often, when explaining the answers. So far, I am doing really well without using any diagrams. Does this mean I am naturally good at LR,or do most people not use diagrams?

Hello! Any advice I can get would be greatly appreciated :)

I am going to be finishing my in-class Blueprint prep course in about a month that's for people taking the September LSAT. I recently decided however that I wont be doing the September exam anymore and will be taking a few more months to study for the December LSAT instead. The Blueprint class has been an extremely helpful beginning for me since it's put me in a structured schedule with fun lessons that are easy for me to understand. I went from143 to 152 in a month and I think I can probably make it to 160 by mid-September, but I'd like to get to over 170 by December.

My dilemma is I don't know what the best way to do that is. Do I renew my online blueprint account until December and just keep practicing those online practice questions on my own? I also considered doing another in class course of some kind just to keep me motivated in a schedule but those are so expensive and I feel like I wouldn't get that much benefit from it since I already do know the basics. I've also considered buying a 7Sage package but I have some concerns with that like unnecessarily confusing myself with the different strategies that 7Sage presents in comparison to Blueprint. I don't want to feel like I'm wasting time starting from scratch or that I have to unlearn the Blueprint strategies just so I can relearn from 7Sage or whatever other companies' strategies without confusion. I'm also not great at self-studying. I do have motivation and discipline to study a lot and work hard, but I usually need to be in some kind of structure like a class in order to do that to my greatest potential. This brought me to consider getting a tutor that I could see weekly and that could just customize helping me based on what level I'm already at and adding to strategies I'm already using. What do you all think would be the best option to get me to a minimum of 170 by December?

Also if you have tried a tutor before did it work for you? Any really good tutor recommendations? And if you have studied for the LSAT using two companies before, did you feel like it got confusing or that you had to start over?

Thanks for reading!! :)

Hey 7Sagers!

I saw a couple posts that were similar to this topic, but those threads were mainly very old or distinct in their question. As such, I wanted to pose a question that I'm sure many in the community are facing during PTs.

What are some of the potential causes that would result in varied PT scores?

I'm sure everyone is experiencing different results, but in my case, I'm talking about 8 PT scores that create two very distinct averages. For me, half my PTs suggest I'm currently performing at ~163 and the other half consistently have me at a ~157. To clarify, these scores were intermingled, meaning it's not a steady increase from 157 to a 163, but rather spikes and drops going between the two. Furthermore, I've thoroughly reviewed both the question types and sections for each test and there doesn't seem to be any consistency in the points I've missed.

But back to my larger question, if our studying methods haven't changed, what fundamental errors could cause those preparing for the LSAT to have an inconsistent score and how can we address these?

Hey guys!

I am planning to write the LSAT in September/December, depending on how far I get with my studying this month. I do not have school right now and I only work once a week so I literally have all month to study diligently for the September LSAT. Right now, I am just finishing up the core curriculum, although I tend to follow a slightly different approach in terms of getting the most time effective studying done.

Let me know if any of you are interested in either doing PT's together or are in the same boat as I am in.

I can meet anywhere in the lower mainland. I prefer meeting in Surrey or Vancouver though.

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I can't see why E is a better AC that D. Any thoughts?

Flaw

Argument Summary:

Context: The presence of X has conditioned the US to support a substantial defense budget.

Premise 1: X is gone.

Conclusion: Doubtful that the public will support an adequate defense budget.

Prephrase:

X-->Y

/X

/Z

Huh? What is an “adequate” budget in the absence of X? That is the issue here.

Answer Choices:

A) No it definitely does not. It does just the opposite and presume the public cannot be manipulated in the absence of X. Eliminate.

B ) Well it does do this but that is not the flaw. The issue lies in term “adequate”. Eliminate.

C) He uses the descriptor “doubtful”. Definitely not it. This is confusing because it’s hard to understand. But it is false and not the flaw. Eliminate.

D) Well yea it does do this. The argument concludes /Z, but provides no support for that in the argument.

E) Yes it does this too. What the hell does “adequate” even mean?