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So as I do every Saturday, I sat down and took a full (5 section) timed test. This test "felt" much different than normal for me though and my score by section confirmed it. It got me curious as to what is going on.

The test I took is PT 78....(Yes, yes it is recent sue me) and my sections did not line up how they normally do.

Recently my scores look like;

LG: -1 to -2

LR; -4 to -5 per section

RC; -6 to -9

with a score on the test of about a 167ish.

Today everything changed!

LG; -3

LR; -7 and -3

RC; -2

Of course my score was a 167 still, I just felt a dramatic shift in the way the test felt. LG have been something I always finish early. Today I felt pressed for time. LR still felt fairly typical but the first section seemed difficult. and RC always baffles me but today it was just so clear.

I understand the test is variable and that scores will change and sections will change. I also can not describe exactly what "felt" different because it is such a subjective term. What scares me is that this is a more recent test. (the reason I took it was to get an idea of where the more current test put me).

Another thing I noted is I almost always miss flaw questions. Today I missed none and instead missed a ton of RRE. I also noted that it felt like there were way more NA questions than normal.

Is this common to have a test that feels like such an out-liar to your norm?

I see these PTs discussed in old threads, but I can't locate them. Have they been removed? If anyone knows where they are, please share the knowledge!

Thanks ya'll

Hi guys! I wanted some insight into why A qualifies as a right answer for this question.

The argument is saying that the manager should be blamed/is responsible for the project's delay because he was aware that the contractor often runs late and should have planned for this possibility.

The designated correct answer, "a principle that underlies the argument," is that a manager should take foreseeable problems into account when deciding things.

While I recognize the logic that makes this answer correct, I take issue with its specific language. Saying that a manager "should take foreseeable obstacles into account" does not necessitate that /a manager should in fact be blamed if they do not take such obstacles into account,/ which is the logic piece that would plug the hole. Specifically, the word "should" cannot be reasonably assumed to mean "must, otherwise blame/responsibility is accrued," and it fails to accomplish that on multiple fronts.

Should is an opinion word and does not guarantee certainty of execution, or lack of execution. Furthermore, even if one was to equate "should" with some form of "must," "must" alone would exclude the possibility of an event not happening, making it impossible to address the implications of it not happening.

Is there a LSAT-specific reading of "should" that alters the meaning of the question?

If not, why would it be incorrect to read "should" as "ought to"/"would benefit from," thus making "ought to take foreseeable problems into account" insufficient as a principle that justifies the manager being /blamed/ for not taking them into account?

Thanks for the read :) I really appreciate any thoughts you all may have!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-29-section-1-question-19/

Hey, y'all! I'm having a tough time negating some AC for NA. For AC A and B they don't seem to be negated the same.

A. None of the mercury introduced into the body can be eliminated.

Negated: some of the mercury introduced into the body can be eliminated.

B. Some people in Beethoven's time did not ingest mercury.

Negated: all people in Beethoven's time ingested mercury.

Why was there no "not" included in A but "not" was removed from B when negated? I know you can add the phrase, "it is not the case" before the AC instead of trying to negate certain words but that doesn't work for me. For some reason it doesn't make sense to me.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-28-section-3-question-16/

Does anyone know about private tutoring or recommend any private tutoring?? I am so anxious about my terrible score of pt. Depressed.

Hi Guys,

Currently I am looking for a good RC virtual tutor. I am located in Shanghai China.

Any recommendations? Is JY a choice available?

I am a bit confused as to when I should start using the question bank. I noticed that questions in the Bank are exactly derived from the PTs that are provided. I am wondering if I should use the questions from the question bank in conjunction to the lessons I learn or if I should wait to touch the QB until I start to write the PT which have the same questions?

So I'm going to UCHI this fall and I just had an interesting conversation with an old friend who is going to the University of Toledo Law and they were bragging about how they have average grades and have a job with Butzel Long. Obviously this is part of law but how big is this?

This is clearly not a technical problem -- I didn't know what category would be best :D

Very small and perhaps ridiculous suggestion: in my opinion, forums are way more easily navigated when the number of posts per page is limited. I feel like 10-15 posts per page makes it so much easier to find certain comments / scroll to read new ones. Am I crazy?? I might be crazy.

Also I'll add a technical problem -- is anyone else unable to attach polls? When I hit "Attach Poll" I get the edit screen but literally no option to put a poll anywhere.

Hi Team, I've been perusing the comments and discussions and when it comes to the core curriculum (CC), I realize the importance to ensure you learn it all and remember it all. I am studying for the LSAT full-time and I just started about a week ago. Please share your experience with the CC. What worked, what didn't work? Knowing then, what you know now, how would you approach it? What do recommend is a good way to do it? How fast or slow did you take? Did you make flashcards, did you write on your walls : ) Did you do the CC twice, was that helpful? Did you go through it one time, just to complete, then go back through it very precisely? Please share any habits, techniques, practices, timelines, schedules, etc. Did you create a notebook? What did you print off? Anything that you feel may be helpful. I'm also curious if the CC should be treated like a class, for example how it is said that for every hour in class, one should study three hours out of class? Thanks in advance for your comments.

Just found this gem:

https://classic.7sage.com/the-7-stages-of-waiting-for-your-lsat-score/

What are the pros and cons of both? Which is the better choice as a career stepping stone? The reason I ask is because I'm trying to decide between two law schools and the only real difference between them is that one places considerably more graduates in judicial clerkships and less governmental positions than the other

Anyone in Montréal this summer looking for a study group?

I have a question about 7Sage Notification Preferences. As you can see below, I have checked all the boxes, but I never receive emails when people mention/reply to/private message me.

http://imgur.com/uGp6JAN

Does anyone receive notifications when you receive replies/private messages on 7Sage?

I do receive emails for my comments in the Curriculum ("Your comment at 7Sage lsat has a new reply" emails).

that game is cake compared to games with the super random, sneaky rules (like the television program one with 0.5 slots and whole slots, and you had to make 5 slots not 6).

what games have you found very hard?????

Hello! I live in Portland OR and am looking for motivated study buddies who would be interested to study for the LSAT during the weekends. Please feel free to comment or inbox me if you're interested. Best of luck!

I just took my third take yesterday and quite disappointed in my performance. I was pting within my goal of mid-160s. After my second take of 154, I decided to access my strengths and weaknesses and do drill sets accordingly. I fool proofed the LG Bundle, revisited the CC and drilled by question type with PTing and BRing once a week. However, I have this condition where my neck gets excessively tight and I just lose focus. I've had a spinal tap done and multiple ct scans but no diagnosis. This happens sporadically and unfortunately it happened Sunday morning and I just didn't want to take the test come Monday but I did anyways. I failed to pace myself, missed whole bunch of questions in LR, and missed a passage in the RC. LG was easy but I could have finished in half the time if my neck didn't tighten up. I even forgot to reset my watch on two sections. I don't think I'm eligible for accommodations nor do I even want them but would a fourth try be even worth the attached stigma.

I have a question about the requirements of extra time. I have bad ADD and in high school, I took each section of the ACT on separate days. If I have documentation that I received this accommodation on the ACT, will the LSAT definitely grant me time and a half or double time or is it still in question? Thanks

Although I majored in philosophy (lots of writing), I'm terrible at writing about myself. I was thinking about signing up for a creative writing class at a community college over the summer.

Does anyone else have this issue and what helped you get better at writing about yourself?

I have written many drafts of my PS and they all ended up being too broad or too specific and just overall terrible :'(

Hey all. I'm just wondering how most people deal with statements with both Group 3 and Group 4 indicators. I realize that one can use either rule and be fine, but in practice do most people just stick with one rule? I find it makes more intuitive sense to use the Group 3 rule, and was wondering if there were any downsides to just sticking with using the Group 3 rule at all times when I encounter a statement with both indicators.

For example, in the following statement:

"There will not be a good show unless there are sophisticated listeners in the audience."

With the Group 3 rule, one would diagram as:

GS --> SL

because one is negating the sufficient (/GS), which turns it into GS. The fact that "not a good show" is /GS makes intuitive sense to me because not should mean /.

However with the Group 4 rule:

not a good show becomes GS

unless there are sophisticated listeners becomes /SL

and therefore

GS --> SL

because one is negating the necessary (/SL) and making the other idea (GS) the sufficient condition. However, this is where I always get tripped up, because I don't think it makes intuitive sense for unless to be a negation. Also, my mind makes me constantly think that "not a good show" has to mean /GS, so leaving it as GS is really difficult for me to intuitively grasp.

What do others think? Is it fine if I just stick with the Group 3 rule for every statement that has both indicators? Are there any cases where using the Group 4 rule would be better?

I was wondering, what do you guys think about UD Sturm? A buddy got full ride. Is it a good back up?

Hello everyone,

I am in the process of drilling 1-2 LR sections per day from PT's 1-35 and am having some issues. I seem to be going right around 20/25 on most sections and was wondering if anyone could recommend any improvements to my methodology.

What I usually do is take each section timed and then go back through and read the questions that I circled for BR over again and make any changes that I see fit after spending more time on each question. I then jot down some reasoning for the answer choices that I am struggling between before choosing one. After this I go back through and check my answers, reviewing further any of the ones that I got wrong. As of right now, I am only at PT 14 so I don't have any of the JY explanation videos to reference.

Also, it seems to me that through the 4 sections of LR that I've done so far (I only just started drilling LR this week), flaw questions seem to be killing me according to the spreadsheet that I'm keeping for drilling LR. I am currently working through the LSAT Trainer while fool proofing games so maybe this will help?

Any advice would be appreciated!

Hey everyone,

So I just spent the last hour or so psyching myself out. I feel like there is no chance of getting into one of the better law schools any more. The reason for this is quite simply, I sucked at college on my first attempt.

I went to college, dropped and failed classes and this absolutely destroyed my GPA.

I then joined the United States Marine Corps and took about a 4 year break from school (while acquiring a couple more F's because of deployment....damn.)

After the Marine Corps I went back to school and graduated with a B.A. my GPA after the Marine Corps was a 4.0.

The LSAC calculates my cumulative GPA as a 2.7 (shoot me) and my Degree GPA as a 4.0

Right now I'm PT'ing in the 165-169 range. So my LSAT score is at least helping me a bit.

Will law schools take all this into account? Will the see I am different now with the 4.0 I achieved and the highish LSAT score? Or will they just dismiss me as a failure? Am I doomed to bad schools? I dream of T-15 but this seems unrealistic.

Any advice?

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