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Let's hear some good stories.

When I visited one school that I was accepted at, I made a joke to the director of admissions(Emory law graduate), about Golden Gate law school. Her response (in a cold voice, with a harsh stare): "I have a lot of friends and colleagues who went to GGU..."

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I know the fool-proof method for logic games is vaunted around here. But I might be the exceptional fool. See, I've done every game from PTs 1-57, most of them several times, and I still cannot consistently get below -4 on new games sections. Sometimes I even get the old games wrong, too. I've been banging my head against this wall since about October, and I just can't learn the damn things! Should I keep drilling and hope for a breakthrough? I thought I had one a few weeks back but then I slid back down to -4 or -5. Maybe I should just put the -0 goal out of my mind and accept that I might have a plateau.

Does law school look at average lsat scores if I took more than one test? I knew that ABA changed the rules to only evaluating highest scores, and my tutor didn't say anything about average scores, so even though I didn't do well in this Feb test, I still didn't cancel my grades since it's my first time. But now I heard my friends all cancelled their grades and said they'll look at average. OMG! and I googled it but people's views differ. Can anyone give me a definite answer? I'm super worried.... Thanks!!

I am struggling very bad with time issues regarding RC.

When it takes me around 12/15 minutes per passage, I get all of them correct or miss only one.

However, when I try to speed up my pace down to 10 minutes per passage, I do terrible.

My game plan was to get down to 10 minutes, then 8 minutes, so eventually I can get through all of the passages for June.

SOMEONE PLEASE HELP ME!!!!

So I just got to parallel questions in the curriculum, and as I begin working through some of these and time is becoming a more challenging factor than the actual questions; I'm finding myself really wanting to see some questions hammered out in real time. I understand when to eliminate an answer choice and move on without reading further, I just feel like I need a more comprehensive, holistic vision of what this looks like over the course of a section. I know these are skills which will come more into play post curriculum during PT/BR phase, and I know this is something which each individual will have to develop individually for their own strengths and weaknesses; but I still think I would benefit a lot from a demonstration in the curriculum. Any chance of getting a lesson just showing @"J.Y. Ping" destroying an LR section? And maybe not even straight up timed, but just with explanations which would mirror our thought process (ideally) under timed conditions- kind of a culmination of everything coming together. Maybe using the diagnostic test? I think this could be a great tool to really demonstrate the full importance of time management strategy and an example to show us an ideal to strive towards. Does that make sense to anyone else? Plus, I just think it would be fun to really watch the master at work.

Of course, he said that even though he repeatedly pawed her it wasn't actually sexual harassment. Yeah, right, in your mind it was okay.

Admin edit: Please do not post LSAT questions word for word.

I'm having trouble with this Fact Pattern and Question Stem.

I'm assuming it is supposed to be faulty because the FP makes the switch from talking about tall tulips to tall plants.

However, we know that tulips are the ONLY plants in the garden. And we also know they are all tulips. How is it faulty to make the step that the only plants in the garden are tall plants?

Proctors: Two proctors. Very professional.

Facilities: Main building of the campus (I believe). Spacious room. Clean bathrooms.

What kind of room: Classroom/programming room.

How many in the room: Probably around 30 - 40.

Desks: Huge. They were long tables and everyone was spaced pretty far apart because there weren't many students. Lots of space to really lay all your stuff out.

Left-handed accommodation: N/A

Noise levels: Very low.

Parking: Huge parking lot right next to the building.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: An hour maybe.

Irregularities or mishaps: N/A

Other comments: Great place to take the exam, if not only for the large desk space lol.

Would you take the test here again? Yes.

Date[s] of Exam[s]: December 2015

So I started doing my PTs after finishing the core curriculum and while I initially saw some improvement (started with my diagnostic at 152, then started getting high 150s now low 160s), I don't feel like I'm really improving. In fact, while before I wasn't running into time issues and was able to finish on time for the LR and Reading Sections, I'm now finding it harder to finish those sections on time. The games is the one section that is consistently getting better but that's just about it. I'm averaging somewhere around -11 to -15 total in LR and around -5 in Reading

Any suggestions? I'm wondering how much I should expect to be improving with each test. My goal is for a 172/173 but if I'm in the low 160s now with a high score of 169 (untimed though) I'm worried that between now and the June test I won't be able to reach my goal. So far I have done 6 timed PTs besides my diagnostic and 1 untimed. My Blind Review is in the high 170s.

Any input is appreciated.

Anybody from this area interested in starting a study group? I will be taking the Blueprint LSAT course in April and supplementing it with 7sage

Hey all,

Did anyone else sign up for the meet and greet happening this Friday in Vancouver, BC? By stroke of luck I'm traveling to Van from the interior in order to go to see a couple DJs that night. Decided to stay Friday night too in order to meet some of you guys and geek out about 7sage/the lsat/law school!

Should be fun!

I am currently enrolled in an upcoming Blueprint course starting April 6, taking the test in June. I have saved up enough money to quit working for the next three months so apart from school I'll be as free as I can be. I'm wondering if there is anybody out there that can share their experience of pairing these two services. Is it really necessary to purchase the Ultimate+ 7Sage package in this situation? If not then which package in your opinion will supplement my Blueprint course best (starter)?.

For the modules like the strengthen and weaken question types, should I power my way through all of the problem sets I have available or should I take a more gradual approach (one to two sets per q-type per day)?

I have found the one star and two star questions to be very easy but the three star are very challenging and the four star seem out of my league entirely. Just curious if there is an ideal method to go through them. Thank you in advance.

https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/introducing-new-drugs-strengthen-question

Looking to get a better idea of the logic on answer choice E, which is an incorrect answer choice.

I understand that A is the correct choice because reasoning from an example which is already the best case compared to alternatives strengthens the argument, given the premises.

Comment from @DumbHollywoodActor was helpful in shedding some light on E's logic:

(E) mixes up the logic. If you take the contrapositive, you can see it more clearly: “if most new drugs shouldn’t be on the market, then the new antihistamine shouldn’t be on the market.” The argument provides the necessary condition, but that doesn’t mean it gets to conclude the sufficient condition.

However, I would like to understand this statement better: The argument provides the necessary condition, but that doesn’t mean it gets to conclude the sufficient condition.

We must accept the premises and the conclusion as true for LSAT questions. I get that if we accept the premise as true, that is affirming the necessary condition of the logic in choice E. But, if we accept the conclusion as true, that also satisfies the sufficient condition of the logic.

Put simply, after reading the argument I am left with these two true pieces of information:

P: antihistamine should not be on the market (A)

C: these new drugs should not be on the market (B)

then E gives me this logic of "these new drugs should not be on the market" --> "antihistamine should not be on the market"

So, I'm left looking at that B--> A statement, and holding A and B in my hands, with no understanding of where to plug them in. If I plug B in, then I get A, but apparently that is not the correct answer.

Is it because the reasoning in this argument is inductive (that is, moving from a specific example to a general rule) and so it isn't helpful to say that "this general rule is the case" therefore "this specific examples is the case," since the argument is not applying a rule, but rather trying to support one?

I know how to sort by individual question but what if I want to take tests with the hardest game section or reading section?

Hey guys, I want to make a special introduction: David Brown, @"Accounts Playable", who is a current 7sage student and Mentor.

David is offering LSAT tutoring at a rate of $60/hour ($50/hour if you book him for 5 or more hours).

David is an active member of our community - have you seen his answers in the comments section below the lessons? - and currently scoring in the low-mid 170’s on PT’s.

I’ve worked with David for many months now and I can speak to his excellent grasp of both our Core Curriculum and the LSAT in general. I've asked that he make himself available for tutoring so he can increase his mastery of the test leading up to the June exam, which he's planning to take. If you're PT-ing around the 150's - low 160's and looking for someone to guide you, consider reaching out.

If you’d like to get in touch with David for a 30 minute free consultation, please message him here on the 7sage boards at @"Accounts Playable".

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So, I have a question for everyone about what will benefit me more. I was recently accepted into the Fulbright Scholarship program and will get funding to work abroad for a year. The program is extremely competitive to be admitted into, and I'm thrilled at the chance of traveling and working for a full year before going to law school -- especially because I have career interests in international/transnational law.

However, I have no money of my own and my parents will not be paying for law school. I will not be making money during my year abroad, and I will be coming back just a month or so before law school starts and won't have much time to get a job or save any money at all. My undergraduate loans during my year abroad will have to be deferred.

Obviously finances are a major concern for me, and graduating a top law school with minimal debt but with solid job prospects is my ideal situation. But, turning down the Fulbright scholarship because of financial reasons is a hard pill to swallow, especially when considering all the months of work, time, sifting through painful feedback, and interviews I went through in order to get it. I would like to have a better idea of what others are doing, or what other people know in terms of financing law school so I can be pushed in the right direction or set up a game plan for myself, because at this point my joy at being selected for Fulbright is being met with my anxiety about paying for law school.

Any and all advice would be greatly appreciated.

Hello all,

I am really stuck on how to decide which school to attend. My top choice school is not giving me a lot of money but is in the top 50. My other schools which are way lower ranked are giving me either a full tuition or a little more than that. It is a question of debt or no debt?

Should I look at the amount of money the school is giving me, OR should I care more about the school’s ranking, reputation, alumni network etc?

Please give me any thoughts, advice, suggestions! I would really appreciate it :)

I have a question regarding strengthen and weaken questions: If I am stuck between two AC's, could I simply try to put both of them into the argument, one at a time, and see which strengthen/weakens more?

Hey 7Sagers, our wonderful editor, @david.busis, has just released a new class - Résumé - in the Personal Statement Intro Course. It's got nine lessons to help you craft an ideal resume.

If you're already enrolled in the course, you can start with the lessons here: https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/overview

If you're not already enrolled in the course, you should enroll!

Here's an excerpt - Lesson One

How Important Is Your Résumé?

The average admissions officer spends all of thirty seconds looking at your résumé. Nevertheless, she’ll probably look at it before she does anything else, and it may prime her to read the rest of your application more or less generously.

Keep in mind that (1) judges and lawyers put a huge amount of stock in small details, and (2) you want to signal to the adcom that you’ll be employable when you send your résumé out after law school. Thus, it’s incredibly important that your résumé is error-free, legible, and indicative of good judgment.

What Sections Should You Include?

Most résumés should have four sections:

1. Experience

Include both jobs and internships. Note promotions and other accomplishments.

2. Education

Include degrees, distinctions such as magna cum laude, and academic awards. If you’re still in college, Education should be your first section.

3. Activities

Include community service and other extra-curriculars.

4. Personal

Include skills (e.g. computer programming, piano), languages (other than English), and interests or hobbies.

You might want to give your sections slightly different names and emphases. For example, instead of an Activities section, you might have a Post-College Activities section.

Length

Your résumé should be one page unless you have a very good reason to go longer. The vast majority of applicants do not. Here are some examples of reasons to add a second page:

Rankings are being leaked bit by bit, so far Spivey has the top 50 up on his Blog

http://blog.spiveyconsulting.com/2017-2016-release-usnwr-are-here/

So I scored a 151 on the Feb LSAT; I did about 11 weeks of self prep with moderate effort. I admit, the LSAT was tougher than I expected, and that's why I'm here. I know that many people prep for the LSAT for months, and sometimes years. This is just not realistic for me. I'm curious, in this community's opinion, what amount of time do I need to dedicate to raising my score into the mid to high 150s? Really aiming for a 157. I know LSAC says their data indicate that most 2nd timers improve 2.8 points, and 3rd timers 2.2, on average. I'm looking to realize those improvements on my second run. Thanks for your input.

Ya'll see this? Duke down to 11th . Michigan to 8th Boston University tied for 20th