To everyone writing on Saturday let this be your motto! I was granted accommodations and will be writing on Sunday (superbowl Sunday like come on LSAT REALLY), jk I'm really fortunate that they were so accommodating! I wrote in December so for the newbees, make sure you chill out all day tomorrow and mentally prepare yourself, do NOT DO ANYTHING CRAZY! Also need some advice from you guys...should I refrain from checking the forum before Sunday? I know we are allowed to discuss very few things after the exam, but in December I was obsessively checking the thread on Saturday evening and it helped to hear I wasn't the only one who struggled with the games etc. Since I am writing it a day late I don't know if it would be the smartest idea to psych myself out beforehand by reading anything about it. Let me know what you think! WE ARE GOING TO DO AWESOME! It's really not as scary as it seems.

Can someone please confirm that G2 was silver/gold and G3 was the 12-week game? Thanks in advance!

Hi everyone! I was wondering if anyone's had a similar experience to mine and has scored well on their LSATS. I started at a 148 without reviewing the material ever and I'm trying to get to a 160. I'm currently studying about 3 hours per day (I work full-time) and about 5-6 on Saturdays and 5-6 on Sundays. I'm hoping this can get me where I need to be! I'm taking the LSAT in June and need a little bit of encouragement. Any advice is much appreciated.

Hi, I wanted to check out some of the live RC passages that JY does for PT5 and 6 but I can't seem to find them. Are they not included in the starter package? Thank you!

I had LG(exp)-LR-RC-LG-LR

The first LG section, which is confirmed to be an experimental one, was extremely hard for me, so I had to guess the last 10 questions. Since my goal is to get >170, guessing these questions made me panic and forget to think that this could be an experimental section. As a result, I immediately gave up, only thinking about cancelling the score, and I just stared at the second section for the first 10 minutes or so. However, after I got to myself and started to solve, I realized that this section was easier than I thought, but because I just stared at it for the first 10 minutes, I could not finish about 10 questions. Even worse, I found the rest of the test to be relatively easy (compared to what I have been practicing/solving), and it was too late when I finally realized that the first section could be an experimental section (which is confirmed to be).

I don't know how to end this since I am just writing this down as I think, but I could have achieved my goal today only if I did not immediately give up....

Hey guys! I just got notified that HLS is offering me an interview! Wondering if anyone has been through it and would like to share some tips?

I look forward to commiserating with you later today!

Hi everyone! For this question, I understand how answer choice B wrecks the argument, making it a solid necessary assumption. It was my original answer choice, but I thought I was being tricked at the back end of the test because it seemed like a sufficient assumption. Is it both? Can it be both? If it's not a SA, what am I missing? I hate NA vs SA.

Answer choice B provides the following as a necessary assumption ...

CW-->PBSEKW

The contrapositive of the above conditional plus the author's conclusion make this ...

not(PBSEKW)-->not(CW)

not(PBSEKW)

------------------------------------------------

not(CW)

Seriously, how is this not a SA? It is enough to make the conclusion valid. Please help!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-68-section-3-question-23/

Hi 7Sagers,

If you’ve done an an interview this cycle, help out your fellow applicants and tell us what you remember. What was the format? What were you asked? I’ll compile the answers and put them in the admissions course, but I won’t use your name.

i can't be the only one who can't remember.

Hi!

Saturday February 4th at 8pm EST we'll be having a question workshop. @Sami will be starting us off on descriptive weakening, flaw, and other question types you want to work through. We'll be pulling questions from PTs 52-54. @danielznelson has also agreed to stop by a bit later to go over other questions you may have.

Shoutout to Feb LSAT test takers! All the best on this test!

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Hello,

I may put my working period or time wrongly...

For example,

worked at X from April 2011 to April 2013

worked at Y from April 2009 to March 2013. (supposed to be March "2011")

And I put different working hours on resume and the lsac online page, I only put the official hours on lsac form but on my resume I included hours that is not officially assignedtoo so longer...

This kind of mistake...

Should I email them and let them know if I mis-wrote any info? Would it look bad?

Really...I don't know why I did this.

When should we contact them?

Please note that the information below will change to reflect the information we get! Contribute if you can via the official February 2017 LSAT discussion (linked at the bottom of this thread) without going into too much detail. If you think something is wrong or should be added, please post in the thread and let me know.

Since it is the Feb. LSAT, please be aware that it is undisclosed and, as a result, I will not be updating this thread until I get multiple confirmations on a question.

Real Sections:

LG:

-Gold/Silver Vases/Plates

-12-Week Class Schedule

-Transcribing & Preparing for Interviews

-Different Libraries

RC:

-The Bumblebee's "Waggle Dance"

-Hindus and Romans / Patriotism

-Civil Courts / Judges and Juries

-Liberal Environmentalism / Ecology

LR:

-Speed Limits for Different Vehicle Types / Vehicle Emissions from 1967-1990 / Smog

-Global Warming/Climate Change

-Charles II

-Napoleon

-Meteorite and Nano-Diamonds

-Supernova and a King's Birth

-Ravens/Crows and Worms / Dropping Pebbles in a Tube

-Children Estimating Half-Full Beakers

-Plate Tectonics / Size of Planet

-Skilled Writer Politician Makes a Speech

-Company Criticism / Debt

-Government Sending Letters Across Country / Connecting People

-Middle-Aged Coffee Drinkers / High Blood Pressure

Experimental Sections:

LG:

-French/Russian Language

RC:

LR:

UNCONFIRMED:

If you can confirm that these are real / experimental, please do so by PMing me or posting in the main thread.

None yet!

This thread is closed for discussion. Official post Feb LSAT discussion here:

https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/10331/official-february-lsat-discussion-thread

Anybody else anxiously awaiting for their admissions decisions? So far I have only gotten back two decisions out of ten. One was immediate and the other took an entire week. I do the online application check at least once a day and they have said that they have been in review for at least a week. Is this normal?

While mapping out my study plans for the LSAT I read somewhere that reading The Economist and the New Republic were good supplementary materials to prep materials. I read both diligently but I saw even more RC improvement once I started incorporating the New Yorker into my study plan. Their articles are very dense and it can be difficult to keep the information straight. Really forces you to concentrate on what you're reading. Another added benefit is their articles run the spectrum of subjects - could be pop culture, politics, history or science. This was tremendously helpful to me and I hope it helps someone else.

It feels great to eliminate all incorrect AC and pick out the correct AC, not only out of POE but because I've uncovered the reasoning for its correctness. But that kind of time is a luxury of prep and not available on test day. I know that I will need to bank time in order to finish the sections. The banked time will come from things like picking out an assumption and prephrasing the answer or guessing between two possibilities and unemotionally moving on to the next question.

But at what point in the prep should we include those sort of strategies?

I have a story to share for those who are at a crossroads. Keep in mind that I am overwhelmed with emotions that my grammar & steneces may be off. But I knew the best time to write this would be when I was in this state of mind. I took the LSAT October 2015 & did not perform well-at all. I was devastated because that meant I had to take a whole year off & I didn't know what my next should be. I decided you know what I'll try this 7Sage curriculum-what else do I have to lose. After relearning the LSAT, rigorous hours of prep tests, & preptalks I decided to retake the LSAT in December 2016. I promised myself that no matter my score I would write about my experience with 7Sage to help other students that are in the same boat as I am. Because trust me, I had thoughts about whether I should quit on my dreams & just settle. Well I just found out, like five minutes ago that I got accepted into the school that I had been wanting to since I began this incredible journey!! So those of you that can relate don't give up, keep trying, & have faith! So with alllll that said, THANK YOU SO MUCH 7Sage you seriously were a huge part of the beginning of my legal education!

Sorry so long!! :)

Hi everyone,

It's my first time posting, but I'd love some insight on my resume. I don't have any friends in law school, and I've been out of undergrad for almost two years now, so any advice would be great. Basically, I graduated from a good university with a bachelor's degree in music performance. I had a high GPA, but aside from music courses in history/theory/performance, all my other courses were in language (I wasn't thinking about law school then, and foreign language study + classical music made sense...). I mean, I think I've accomplished a good amount in the classical music community, but that isn't exactly related to law. After I graduated, I spent a year waitressing, and now, in my second year, I work part-time in retail, do music gigs and teaching, and regularly volunteer with a non-profit in my state. I may have the opportunity to start volunteering with my state's legal aid soon, but I'm basically worried that my resume is too weak. Will a high GPA/LSAT score make up for this? I haven't officially taken the LSAT yet, but like everyone, I would want to score at least 170. Am I worrying too much?

Thanks in advance!!

Hi everybody,

I am taking the Feb. 4th LSAT this weekend and had a few questions, and i haven't had a chance to ask anyone else. So, I've heard we are not able to bring much anything into the test room with us, is anyone familiar with what EXACTLY we can bring? Am I to bring a sandwich bag with pencils and erasers in to, thats it?

What is on the ban list that a student normally would take to class with him? For example, can i take my backpack? My cell phone? A calculator (just asking).

Thank you my LSAT fam :)

Okay, so here's my story, it's long, so bear with me.

In November 2015, I applied for September 2016 admission. I hadn't touched the LSAT yet and I tried to study; however, I quickly realized it was too difficult as I was also in my final year of school (fifth year) and working a fairly demanding job on my days off. I had registered for the December LSAT but I withdrew prior to writing it as I knew nothing about the LSAT at this point. By February 2016 (the last accepted LSAT for the 2016 cycle), I realized it was better to take a year off and study for the LSAT properly. To be honest, applying during this cycle was a complete waste; however, at the time, I did not realize what the LSAT entailed and was told an anecdote where a girl studied for 6 weeks and got accepted, so I was basing my studying on 6 weeks.

I finished school in April 2016 and did not start studying right away because I had just completed my undergraduate and wanted some time off. Around June, I started studying using the Powerscore books, with the intention of writing the October LSAT. However, the week of the LSAT, I still did not feel prepared enough and I also did not really think I was benefiting from the Powerscore books as much as I could have, so the week of the October LSAT, I joined 7Sage (LSAT Premium). In the meantime, I applied for admission to the September 2017 cycle.

I enrolled for the December 2016 LSAT but the day before I realized I was still not ready (I had not even finished the core curriculum of 7sage at this point), and I withdrew. One of my friends ended up having a disturbance during their LSAT, which essentially wasted a take for her. As I only withdrew the day before the LSAT, I actually didn't tell my family and went to the test centre and wrote a PT instead that day in the library of the college I was supposed to be writing in. I also upgraded to LSAT Ultimate+.

Fast forward to today, I have improved a great deal (thanks to 7sage!!!) but I still do not feel completely ready. The first time I kind of rushed through the curriculum but now I have been going through the curriculum more slowly, as a result, I have not finished the Ultimate+, though I have finished the Premium Level. I went from a 147 LSAT in June to 161 on Test 64 two weeks ago. However, that is the only test I wrote where I scored in the 160s so far (I have not written any other PT since). Also, knowing the February LSAT is undisclosed also makes me slightly apprehensive because I won't be able to check my answers.

I know I can do better if I continue to study the way I have been studying now but I also don't know if I should waste another cycle and I feel like the girl who cried wolf in a sense that I always withdraw from my LSAT before I have written it, citing the need for more time. However, I would always apply for these tests prematurely, without actually being ready.

So, should I withdraw from tomorrow's LSAT or should I just write it? Any advice would be greatly appreciated!

While I am caveating this with the proviso that there is no true replacement for FoolProofing every single Logic Game, the question is still valuable.

Is it possible to attain the general skills you need for ALL logic games by focusing only on the very hardest games? i.e., in mastering only the hardest games, are you in effect mastering all concepts featured in the easier ones? The below are listed on LSAT Blog as the ten hardest games:

PrepTest 23 (October 1997), Game 2 - Applicants being interviewed and hired (Combination: Grouping: Selection and Grouping: Splitting)

PrepTest 24 (December 1997), Game 3 - Juarez and Rosenberg review introductory and advanced textbooks

PrepTest 25 (June 1998), Game 2 - Tourists and Guides (Grouping: Matching)

PrepTest 27 (December 1998), Game 2 - Lizards and snakes in a reptile house (Combination: Linear and Grouping: Matching)

PrepTest 31 (June 2000), Game 2 - Music store's new and used CDs (Grouping: Selection / In and Out)

PrepTest 33 (December 2000), Game 3 - Stones: rubies, sapphires, topazes (Grouping: Selection / In and Out)

PrepTest 34 (June 2001), Game 4 - Randsborough/Souderton Clinics (Grouping: Splitting)

PrepTest 36 (December 2001), Game 3 - Window and aisle seats on a bus (Advanced Linear)

PrepTest 40 (June 2003), Game 3 - Flight connections on Zephyr Airlines: Honolulu, Montreal, Philadelphia, Toronto, Vancouver (Grouping: Mapping)

PrepTest 57 (June 2009), Game 3 - Dinosaurs: iguanadon, lambeosaur, plateosaur, stegosaur, tyrannosaur, ultrasaur, velociraptor and Colors: green, mauve, red, yellow (Combination of Grouping: Selection / In-and-Out and Grouping: Matching)

If I fully mastered these (getting them to well below JY's target time, missing zero, all inferences made from memory), would that suffice for LG mastery?

~xqr

So yesterday I received an acceptance notification from UChicago and a denial from The University of Michigan. By all accounts, Chicago is a much better law school so how was I outright denied by U-M but accepted by Chicago?

Well, it's that time again. Another test has come around and for many of you, that means it's time for all of this hard work, passion, and ability to pay off. You've dedicated months if not years of your lives to this test and to the opportunities it can lead to. Just remember that your LSAT score won't be earned on Saturday. You've already earned it. It was earned in the curriculum and in the problem sets. It was earned in the dozens of PT's and BR's and group study sessions. It was earned on that one question you thought you'd never understand but that you refused to let go until you saw through it, and it was absolutely earned on endless LG fool-proofing drills. So don't worry about Saturday. You've already proven yourselves. Saturday is not when all this happens, it's just when the process ends. And I know that everyone of you is going to show up and achieve your full potential.

Before you go though, we'll be meeting to get pumped up for game day! Hope to see everyone there!

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I didn't spend much time on RC in previously preparation. I'm aiming at June LSAT. I commonly get incorrect 2-3 per passage. I wonder if I need to do each passage under 8 minutes from the early PTs and timed RC section from PT30. Any advice would be appreciated.

So here's a general question for anyone who's ever had this awful experience...It appears I'm going to be sick on the day of the February LSATs after having the flu on the day I had to take the December ones. ( I think I tempted fate by loudly announcing to the universe, "oh well, at least I know I won't get sick again for the February LSATs, haha" after taking the first ones). The first time I didn't take any meds (because I didn't want to further dull my thinking), didn't touch or breathe on anyone, and just tried to muscle through. This time, all I appear to have is a cold, but I'm wondering if you all know of any cough/cold meds that you can take that won't make you drowsy or dull your thinking at all. Has anyone been in this position before? Did you have suggestions for how to get through this? I got through a test with a flu without it too much affecting my score (just a 165, but it's not the best I can do by a longshot) so a cold should be easy. But I just don't want to take anything that's going to put me out of it.

Cheers and good luck tomorrow!