Hi Folks,

I’m going to be leading a daytime study group in preparation for the 2017 February test.

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As you can see below, most of the dates are scheduled for Wednesdays. If you have any interest in the daytime group and would like to be tagged when I post a discussion, let me know in the comment section below. That way, you won’t miss anything. Thanks!

Wednesday, December 14, 2016 - PT 72

Wednesday, December 21, 2016 - PT 73

Wednesday, December 28, 2016 - PT 74

Wednesday, January 4, 2016 - PT 75

Wednesday, January 11, 2016 - PT 76

Monday, January 16, 2016 - PT 77

Thursday, January 19, 2016 Monday, January, 23, 2016 - PT 78

Wednesday, January 25, 2016 Thursday, January 26, 2016 - PT 79

Wednesday, February 1, 2016 - PT 80

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I sent some applications in after I requested my transcripts, but BEFORE they were processed into LSAC. Now, about a week later, the transcripts are there and my applications are in the 'lsac completed' portion of the website. My question is, do I email the schools and tell them that it is now complete?

One of the schools emailed me just to tell me that my app was incomplete (before the transcripts were processed). Should I email just them? I signed a binding contract with them, so they might be more interested in viewing the whole thing before the other "regular" ones.

Hi y'all,

I am looking to hire a personal tutor, and yes I've saved up for it because I know it'll be pricey, but does anyone have any ideas on reliable websites to use to find tutors in your area? Or does everyone who gets a tutor just kinda use craigslist lol?

Thanks in advance!

So, I was recently accepted into a school with a decent amount of scholarship money. I scheduled a tour to see the school. I was just notified that I also will have a one on one with the admissions director. To meet and address any concerns I may have. What are some questions I should ask?

AHH, nervous!

I was trying to send out transcripts and have received an error. Anyone else have the same issues?

With regards to the second rule, does anyone know why we can't simply place both F&G in out group? JY's explanation suggests placing G (Out) in one world and F (In) in the second world.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-19-section-1-game-3/

I am taking the February lsat and am scoring in the 159-163 range (one 159, one 160, and 2 163's). It's an improvement of 10-12 over my diagnostic so I am happy. Sad because I am convinced I could hit a 170 but alas.

Anyway, what is the average drop off that you guys have seen come test day? I will be pretty happy with a 160 to 165 since that will get me in to basically all schools in Texas outside of UT. I also want to be realistic come test day.

I have been testing with fairly standard conditions and have had some issues with timing on LG (I average around -6 whether I go over or under). I assume that opens the possibility of missing 2-3 questions come test day.

I am timing well on LR and averaging -5. RC is anywhere between -6 to -8.

I love the site, and am 2 seconds away from ordering the Ultimate+ package. I just have two questions:

1) is there an easy way to see ALL bookmarks across the entire site? When I go to the "Course" page, I have and see bookmarks there that do not show up when I click "Bookmarks" on the "Discussion" page. Is there one universal bookmarks page?

2) Is there a way to see everything you've liked? Kind of like the feature on Instagram? Many times I will "Like" JY's or a user's explanation for something buried in the comments (and sometimes can't remember exactly where I found it/them), and it would be VERY useful to see my entire history/collection of likes as I study, as another reference point.

Thanks!

Hi everyone,

I'm taking the LSAT on Feb 19 and I'm start to panic a bit. For each practise LSAT I've taken my Logical Reasoning scores hover around 65%. Comparatively my Logic Games are around 95% and my Reading Comprehension is around 85%. I'm completing all the sections comfortable timewise. I really need to improve the LR sections but I've got no clue how to.

I've gone about halfway through the powerscore bible. Do I keep going through that even though it seems I haven't grasped basic concepts? Do I buy another book? Do I just practise a lot?

Help!

Hi, I would appreciate if anybody could give me more information about the binding program. Do I have to go to a law school if I get admitted through the early binding program?What is the cost of not going after get admitted? Also, is the binding means that I have to finish 3 years in this law school and can't transfer to any other school?

Thanks!!!!!!!

Is Vanderbilt a much better choice than WUSTL??Is that worthy of going WUSTL ED round with a 167 lsat?Thanks!!!!!!!

I'm sure this is on the website and has been answered before, but I'm the worst incarnate so:

Are the practice questions in the curriculum taken from older LSATs (1-40) or newer?

I don't want to ruin my PTs by pre-exposure as I have a ballin' memory with answers in multiple choice...if only my brain powers were in concepts and not memorization.

Hi

I've been studying for logic games for about 2 weeks or so, trying out the fool proof method.

As I was covering the games from Pt18~28, I was averaging about -3 or -1 in the earlier ones.

But I got completely destroy by Pt 27 then scored perfect on Pt 28 on time. (BTW I did both on thr same day)

I'm not sure how confident I should feel with the game section.

To think that the score can fluctuate so much between 2 Pts was a bit shocking.

Does unorthodox games also become more predictable after continuous practice?

Hey, everyone!

I'm looking for extra pairs of eyes to read over my diversity statement & give critique. I'd be more than happy to look over yours as well. Send me a PM!

Hey All,

So this is a PSA question. I selected answer E when timed and I didn't even circle this question to BR because I was so confident in my answer. It wasn't until I was reviewing with some others during a BR call that this error was brought to my attention. I got some great feedback from those on the call, but upon further solo reflection, I'm still not 100% confident with this.

This is how I interpret the stimulus. There are two categories of people mentioned: adults and children. There is this technique to address chronic nightmares that works on adults. Children who are nightmare prone are likely to suffer from nightmares as adults. Therefore, we need to identify these children and treat them.

The conclusion specifies efforts towards identifying nightmare-prone children. I'm thinking to myself- well, why not utilize this technique with ALL children? Why are we putting the effort into identifying then treating these children. I chose E because it addresses this issue. I interpreted E as justifying the conclusions claim for focused effort.

The correct answer is C, which says psychologists should do everything to minimize the number of adults troubled by chronic nightmares. My issue with C is, by accepting that we must do EVERYTHING (bold statement to begin with, but we are looking for an PSA, which allows for that I guess), then shouldn't we also teach ALL children this technique? The stimulus doesn't set up the necessary condition that, if you suffer from chronic nightmares as an adult, then you did as a kid. The stimulus says it is more likely for nightmare prone children to suffer as an adult. So since this isn't a determined, 100% relationship, in order to do EVERYTHING (like C says), we should be addressing this margin of potentiality for non-nightmare prone children to develop chronic nightmares as an adult.

In short, my issue is C seems to inherently contradict the conclusion.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-59-section-2-question-13/

I'm hoping that someone might be willing to check my thinking/analysis before I go to the explanation. It has been suggested that if we write out an explanation for our thought process that it helps to solidify our learning. This is my attempt to follow that suggestion. Also, could someone tell me if it's advisable or not to attempt to do what I've done prior to viewing the video explanation, or am I complicating things too much? Should I just skip all this work and go right to the video explanation first?

PT 38.1.19

Answer selected during test: (E)

Answer selected during BR: (A)

Correct answer: (C)

Notes:

Since it has been a few days since I took the test and performed my BR, my original thinking is somewhat fuzzy. However, I think the reason I selected E on the test was because I thought that if people only deserve happiness according to the happiness the provide others, then a truly bad person couldn’t deserve happiness because they don’t bring happiness to others.

I think I selected answer choice A on the BR because I was thinking there was a disconnect between the idea that we only value the happiness that is deserved and that we only deserve happiness according to the happiness we provide to others.

Now, how did I miss answer choice C? I think the reason that I missed the correct answer and selected wrong answers twice is because I wasn’t appropriately identifying with the argument. In the first place, I wasn’t looking for a conclusion. I was just looking for a statement that “fit”. I see now that the word “therefore” indicated that I was to be looking for a logical conclusion that appropriately rested on the premises. Also, the question stem indicates that I need to complete the “argument”. Since an argument is a premise + conclusion, and since there is no conclusion in the stimulus, I needed to identify the proper conclusion. I think I wasn’t appropriately identifying the premises in the argument; all of the extraneous statements boggled me a bit. So without the proper understanding of the premises, it’s understandable that I wouldn’t be able to identify the conclusion. I’m still struggling to clearly identify the premise (in fact, I think there is only one), but here’s what I think it is:

P: The happiness people deserve is determined by the amount of happiness they bring to others.

Which would then couple with the proper conclusion:

C: The judgment that a person deserves to be happy is itself to be understood in terms of happiness.

So, if I understand this problem now, the reason I selected the two wrong answers is the same reason I missed the right answer: I didn’t properly identify the premise in the argument.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-38-section-1-question-19/

Dumb question, but I can't seem to find which prep-tests are used in the core curriculum. I'm trying to buy them and just want to double check so I'm not buying the wrong thing. I believe its 1-35 but I'm not 100% sure. Thanks in advance!

Hey everyone!

I got an email yesterday with an invite to interview at one of the law schools' I applied at.

Has anyone ever been to a law school interview?? What should I prepare? I'm guessing they will ask about weaknesses in my application, and maybe try to get to know me a little better??

This isn't really a technical 'problem', but it is related to 7Sage tech. Anyway, is there a way to enable push notifications for the 7Sage app for iOS?

Now that I'm done with undergrad, I have nothing but time on my hands and would like to get more involved on the message boards. At the same time, however, I don't want to be in front my computer the majority of each day.

Thanks!

Hello all,

For the June 2007 Prep Test, for Section 4 (RC) and question #13 ("Which of the following principles underlies the arguments in both passages?") I see why E is correct, but why is D incorrect ("The discovery of the neutrological basis of a human behaviour constitutes the discovery of the essence of that behaviour.") A detailed explanation would be appreciated!

Thanks in advance!

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-june-2007-section-4-passage-2-passage/

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-june-2007-section-4-passage-2-questions/

I'm confused why the arrow splits for PT 22 GAME 4 RULE 4 and the arrow doesn't split for PT 31 GAME 2 RULE 4 even though they both contain the words NEITHER NOR.

I thought the arrow can't be split for NEITHER NOR statements.

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Hey, gang! I use a lot of different sources for explanations because I do not have them all here. I use the Kaplan explanations and I wanted to know if anyone knows where I can find all of the explanations? I haven't been able to find them all in one location. I always google something like, "Kaplan LSAT Explanation Prep Test xx," and I'll get the pdf for that PT. Does anyone know which ones are available, or where I can find all? I haven't been able to find some here and there and there isn't much to google other than what I provided above. I tried dl.keywin.org but didn't get anything. TIA

Hello!

I'm going to take the February LSAT in a few weeks and obviously I'm freaking out. I have 6 Fresh PTs left (the most recent ones) but I just don't know how to space them out.

Problem is I was hitting an average of 171~3 on my timed PTs but devastatingly, today my score dropped to 167 (I bombed one LR section - 7 wrong, I usually get -2, -3 and Reading was little more difficult than usual). That's almost close to my starting score (165) and I now fear that I haven't been studying the right way. My target score is around a 175, which so far I've only managed to get with BRs.

Should I space out my 6 remaining tests so that I do about 2 tests per week till February, or save most of them till the last week before the test and hope for a jump in my score?? ANY ADVICE WOULD BE INCREDIBLY HELPFUL! Thanks!!

Hello all, long time lurker here. I am a non-traditional student finishing up my applications for Fall 2017.

I thought a thread dealing with problems faced by OWLS (older, wiser law students/applicants) might be useful.

Here are some questions I have. Some are specific to OWLS; others might apply to everyone.

1) I did OK on my first LSAT but thought I could do much better because I was PTing much higher. With more practice I took the LSAT again in December but got sick with a virus on test day. Even though I was sick I went through with the test. Score went DOWN five whole points. Ugh, I guess I should have cancelled. I would like to take again (maybe I will, in June) but due to family situation and finances I absolutely have to go ahead and apply now for 2017 admission or I probably can't go to law school. So I am faced with a decision. Some of my schools say that even though they take the highest LSAT, in the case of multiple LSAT scores one should write an addendum if a score change is "significant." I think a 5 point drop is significant; but what does everyone else say? How would you deal with this?

2) How are you OWLS handling the employment section on applications? I've worked in many jobs going back several decades. Applications say to list all employment but do they really mean jobs like 2 weeks in a mini-golf back in the summer of 1986, which is now out of business and the owner is probably dead? Is there a limit to how many jobs can be listed in this section? (I haven't started entering mine yet, so any advice is appreciated.)

3) What about the Activities section on the same page with Employment... it says to rank your activities in order of what they mean to you. But seriously at this point in my life was my membership in the state champion Women's College Glee Club in 1988 more or less important than my volunteer work at a local church nine years ago? It's like comparing ancient apples and oranges, plus these things are on my resume anyway.

4) Resume -- how many pages? One admission dean I spoke with said that for someone my age he wants to see me take as many pages as I need and list pretty much everything (I ended up with three pages) but what do you all think?

Please fellow OWLS, throw out more questions and answers. Let's help each other. Thanks in advance, and to any admissions pros who reply too!