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Hello,

I have the Ultimate Package, and I am thinking about upgrading to the Ultimate+. For the question bank does it include video explanations for all LR,LG and RC from PT 17 and up?

I'm just curious what explanations the question bank includes since this would be the main reason I might upgrade my course.

Thanks!

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Hi All,

I'm happy to report that I received an email on Friday that I was accepted to one of the schools to which I applied. I'm waiting to hear on another, and I'm considering applying to another one or two.

I decided to go the mental check-out route after submitting my apps, meaning that I didn't allow myself to think much about it or obsess over receiving an answer. The good news is that it only took about 10 business days for my first answer.

That being said, this is where I feel like sh*t gets real. I have to look at the annual sticker price of ~$44k in the face and decide how I'm going to figure this out. I'm at a point where I feel like it's not worth doing this, unless I cover at least half or two-thirds of tuition with scholarships and fellowships. I've already paid (cash or fed loans) nearly $100k for my bachelor's and master's (yay for free community college associate's).

I'm in the process of submitting for a health fellowship (which was the meat of my personal statement), as well as other internal/external scholarships.

What are your thoughts on deciding whether or not to go at all, once accepted? The point of going to law school for me is to

a) prepare for a career that I feel better suits me intellectually and

b) alter my career trajectory in healthcare (I've been in allied health for almost a decade now, and would prefer to be on the other side, fixing a rather broken system which affects my patients, and me, as a clinician).

Any thoughts appreciated. I didn't get into HYS, and nor do I think that it's necessary for my career goals at this point. The schools to which I'm applying rank better than whatever #85 is right now.

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Proctors: There were three proctors. They were all amazing, one of them didn't talk at all, just helped pass and collect supplies, I think while the test was going on he sat in the back of the room, but I was so far in the front I couldn't tell.

Facilities: The facilities were nice. There were vending machines, and several different bathrooms.

What kind of room: A lecture hall with amphitheater style seating

How many in the room: there were approximately 30 test takers there, however there was seating enough for at least 100

Desks: Large table style desks, with such limited amounts of people we were each given the equivalent of three student spaces, so there was more than enough room for all of my supplies without having to feel confined.

Left-handed accommodation:

Noise levels: Unfortunately I was getting over a bad cold so I was the one coughing every few minutes but other than that there were no noise distractions

Parking: Parking was approximately 25 yards form entrance of building, and right inside the entrance was the set up for the test. It couldn't have been easier to get to.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: It took about an hour to get everything situated and for the test to begin

Irregularities or mishaps: none

Other comments:

Would you take the test here again? absolutely

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Proctors:

Overall the proctors seemed rattled. While they were not being disruptive (chatting/using phones), they were constantly questioning each other about proper procedure. There was a lot of confusion sending test takers to rooms and when to allow individuals to use the restroom. For example, one proctor made students sit in their assigned seats and explicitly said that we could use the bathroom once all testers were seated. Then another proctor said that nobody could leave the test room until the break. Certainly not ideal to have proctors contradict each other on procedural elements of the test.

Facilities:

Northeastern is an extremely well-maintained school. Bathrooms are neat, and the test center in Shillman Hall has restrooms on each floor. There is also plenty of space for students to clear their heads and be alone during the break (an essential thing for me).

What kind of room:

As I mentioned, my test was administered in Shillman Hall. For those who may not be familiar with Northeastern, Shillman classroom are lecture halls with "stadium seating". Chairs are comfortable, the room is well lit, and analog clocks are front and center.

How many in the room:

Approximately 60-80 students. In my opinion, it's less than ideal to have so many people in a room taking the test. As a student at Northeastern, I understand why they would put us in Shillman (easy to find, large rooms) but I think it's beneficial for test takers to be around fewer people during the exam. Despite this, I wouldn't have characterized the room as especially loud.

Desks:

Classrooms at this test center don't have "desks" per say. Rather than try to explain, just follow the link below and it'll be clear what you're working with. You'll have plenty of room for the test booklet and answer sheet to be side by side.

**This is not a picture of Northeastern, but this is how the room is set up**

http://www.husseyseating.com/swing-away-seating-photos/california-baptist-university/#.VsDp6HQrK2w

Left-handed accommodation:

Left-handed people should not have any difficulties if LSAC continues to use Shillman hall for the Northeastern test center.

Noise levels:

Northeastern University is an urban campus, however I don't recall being disrupted by noise. The location of the test center is in the middle of campus, away from main streets like Huntington Ave. With that said, you shouldn't be surprised to hear a faint siren or two, as is common in cities.

Parking:

Northeastern has plenty of parking. The Columbus Ave lot is probably your best bet, very close to the test center. You will have to pay to park at Northeastern. You could also pay for a meter and get street parking, but for the sake of reliability, I would just park in a garage.

You may want to do your own parking research as I don't have a car in the city and everything above comes from my knowledge as a student at Northeastern.

Time elapsed from arrival to test:

90-120 minutes. This is a rough estimate, the proctors were not very organized.

Irregularities or mishaps:

The contradictory directions at the start of the test were a serious problem for me.

The proctor checking tickets at the door to my test room instructed many of us to sit in our assigned seats, and explicitly stated that we could use the restroom before the test began, but it was important that everyone sat down first. This was obviously incorrect. I was extremely agitated when I realized she told us the completely wrong information. Make sure you use the bathroom BEFORE you go into the test room. Trust me, it's tough to focus when you've got a full bladder and section 1 hasn't even started. With that said, it's important to be able to power through distractions on test day, your LSAT skills should trump any administrative error.

Other comments:

Would you take the test here again?

Yes. Aside from some specific proctor issues, there's no reason to avoid this test center. Test takers have plenty of space to work with, chairs are comfortable, and you have plenty of space to clear your head during the break.

Proctor issues happen and I don't think they're reflective of the test center. Just know the administrative procedure of the test and you'll be fine.

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Proctors: The proctors were great! The main proctor was actually one of the admission counselors for the Law School. She gave a nice little icebreaking speech about the tests’ importance and why cheating could ruin all of our hard-work. I have heard horror stories where the proctors at schools will constantly try to recruit the people taking the test but there was none of that here; very professional. 5/5

Facilities: Arizona Summit is located in the heart of downtown Phoenix, but the unique thing about the school is that it located in the top half of the building it is in. So the room where we actually took the test was located on the 17th floor. You do have to go through a security guard to get into the building but he basically just waved me through. 5/5

What kind of room: The testing room was actually one of the classrooms. Spacious room will long rows of desks arched through it. The view was incredible but I can see someone who isn’t really fond of heights maybe being a little queasy. 4/5

How many in the room: Honestly I wasn’t really paying attention to the other people in the room but I would say there was approximately 40 people in there. I know the classroom next door was administering a test as well.

Desks: The desks were perfect for the amount of people we had. They were more like long tables than desks. They put a space between everybody so there was enough room to stretch and have twenty pencils around you. 5/5

Left-handed accommodation: This didn’t seem to be an issue. I am left-handed but I was seated in the middle of the long-table-desks so I was perfectly fine. 5/5

Noise levels: This was my biggest fear going into desk day and I was so relieved I didn’t have a noise problem. The proctors did not speak with each other or do anything distracting during the sections. Also since we were on the 17th floor street noise was non-existent. 5/5

Parking: The biggest negative of this test center. Being that it is located in downtown Phoenix finding parking was the worst. I actually e-mailed the school before test day asking the best place to park and they gave me directions to a parking garage. The morning of the test there was an event going on downtown and the parking garage was full (I was an hour and a half early.) -____- Downtown has so many streets where you can only go one way, so you have to go down extra streets to get to the spot you need to go to. I found a garage 2 streets away but had to pay 14 dollars to park. 1/5

Time elapsed from arrival to test: I arrived to the test pretty early but the good thing was they didn’t have you sitting around in some random lobby. They were prepared and checked everyone in as they came and led them to their testing room. I just soaked up the view and made small-talk with the other early students. 5/5

Irregularities or mishaps: One BIG SCARY problem almost occurred but it turned out not to be a problem at all. 30 minutes before the test was about to start a big helicopter flew into downtown and was just hovering like two blocks from our building. It was so loud. People began to get nervous because it didn’t leave until 5 minutes before the official time. N/A

Other comments: During break time they had a little lobby where they had a table full of snacks (chips, crackers, cookies) and water bottles. It was very thoughtful! 

Would you take the test here again?

YES! YES! YES! (Shout-out to the now retired Daniel Bryan.) Actually thinking about taking in June and will be picking this center. This was a re-take for me and this center was such a huge improvement from my first time (review to come soon).

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Anyone else having trouble accessing their lessons/study schedule today? I can get to the study schedule page, but when I try to click on a lesson, I receive a "404 error - Page not found" for all of them. Maybe there's some site maintenance going on that I didn't hear about? Just want to make sure it's not just me

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Saturday, Feb 13, 2016

Note Taking

This may seem like a silly question, but how do you all prefer to take notes? Do you go old school with pen and paper or type up notes? Is one way more efficient than the other?

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I chose B because I thought it weakened the argument showing that it does not matter the amount a person digesting the fiber thus weakening Kyra's claim.

Can someone explain A and B to me?

C) being economical and readily available does not affect Kyra's argument and thus is irrelevant, we only care about how absorption affects mineral absorption

D) calcium intake is discussing new information, bone mass and osteoporosis is irrelevant because it's not even discussed about in the argument/recommendation

E) Strengthens. People are getting fiber from other places which supports Kyra's claim that with the amount recommended people would be more likely to have fiber that is significantly above the recommended intake and affect mineral absorption

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Hello all!

So I recently started the 7Sage Curriculum from the beginning again and I also have Mike Kim's LSAT Trainer. My question is, would it better to go through the 7Sage curriculum first and then focus on the LSAT Trainer, or could I do both simultaneously? I dont want to do anything that may be detrimental when it comes to how best to prepare. Also, if I do both simultaneously, is it in my best interest to only do the same topic in the Trainer as I am doing in 7Sage or would it be okay to work on different areas? Thanks for the advice and help!

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Proctors: 4 or 5 proctors. One read instructions and stayed in the front the entire time and handled the timer. The others walked around the room. The instruction reader was very nice and gave everyone ample time in between sections to get ready for the next section.

Facilities: facilities are nice. There are 2 bathrooms for males and 2 for females so the line isn't too bad during break. Couches to sit on in lobby during snack break as well.

What kind of room: lecture hall in the law school. Fairly large room that seats probably ~200 people at max capacity.

How many in the room: ~100. They staggered seating so you have an empty seat to each side of you.

Desks: desks are very large. As stated, seats are staggered so you have an empty seat to each side of you. Chairs are the kind that swivel out from beneath the desk and have high back. If you lay your chest flat on desk and spread your arms out you still won't touch your test-mates space probably, that's how much room you have.

Left-handed accommodation: not Really a need for this as you have so much space, but they put me on the far left next to the isle since I'm left handed I'm assuming.

Noise levels: noise was non-existent on the part of the proctors, facility, outside etc. The only noise was other test takers and their sniffly noses and coughing lungs...

Parking: Parking is an not really an issue. They said the law school parking lot would be available but the gate was down so people couldn't park there. Luckily since the law campus is right next to the civic center and fsu, there is ample parking in the parking garage and civic center. (this would be different if you take the test on a Saturday that is a home football game. You may get towed or ticketed if you park in those spaces)

Time elapsed from arrival to test: ~1 hour.

Irregularities or mishaps: none that stand out. Proctors were professional, no outside noise, etc.

Other comments: As stated above, if you take the test in Sept/Oct and fsu has a home football game You may run into some outside noise and parking issues. FSU sells the parking garage spots as tailgate spots and people get pretty rowdy on game day. Also the law school is next to the civic center which often hosts game day events there. So be cautious of that when signing up.

Would you take the test here again? Yes.

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Proctors: Two proctors onsite. The proctor in charge did not speak English well so it was a challenge to understand instructions which made the test takers uneasy. Also, he seemed new to the entire process so was not always sure about what he was saying. That said, both proctors were nice.

Facilities: Nice big building with plenty of room to hang out and even get food. Nice overall.

What kind of room: Small classroom were used. It was nice and clean.

How many in the room: Approx. 16 ppl per room with 2 proctors assigned to each room.

Desks: Small desks but enough room for test material and supplies. Did not negatively impact test experience.

Left-handed accommodation:Nope

Noise levels: Nice and quiet. No noise issue.

Parking: Plenty of complimentary parking on campus for visitors.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: Approx. 1 hour. They were running late with registration of the test takers. Did not get assigned to the room until around 9:30am. Was done with the test around 2:15pm.

Irregularities or mishaps: See above re: running late. Also, the ppl doing the registration were not sure which items were not allowed/allowed which took some time to sort out.

Other comments: I would not arrive early since there is significant wait time for registration and assignment to the test room.

Would you take the test here again? Yes. Campus is nice and big. Actual room for test was also nice and quiet. Proctors were nice as well.

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    Hey folks!

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    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-56-section-3-question-21

    I understand Jon's explanation on this question, but I was tricked by the question's word choice "revival" in the answer choice (D).

    Doesn't "revival" imply that the ballroom dancing had been once popular before?

    The passage doesn't mention anything about this.

    Probably, I was too nitpicking, but could you clarify this?

    Thanks!

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    Friday, Feb 12, 2016

    Text Message?

    Has anyone ever received a text message as part of the recruiting process? I've recently gained admission to a top law school with a scholarship offer. Today I received a text message from someone at the law school.

    I'm really just curious as I've never seen this mentioned anywhere.

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    Like a lot of you who took the LSAT last weekend, I found the RC section to be incredibly difficult. I'm not good at RC to begin with and typically have to skip an entire passage because I don't read fast enough.

    This past weekend I decided to stick with my strategy and do only 3 passages, but go slowly and make sure that I'm reasonably accurate. Well, I'm afraid that strategy may have backfired on me. I knew once I read the first passage that LSAC had come out swinging with a really tough RC section since I struggled to maintain my focus and felt like I wasn't retaining much from the passage. I ended up taking my time with three passages only, but I wasn't very confident in the answers I chose. The first passage took me a lot longer than usual. Once I got to the second passage (the one about employee rights), I couldn't focus. I re-read the first paragraph twice and lost my focus completely and didn't retain anything so I skipped it and moved onto the third and fourth passages. The fourth passage about hedges was very difficult, but I didn't find the comparative passage about smart growth too bad. I'm starting to regret skipping the second passage and am wishing I would have tried reading it again. But then again, maybe I would have wasted even more time struggling with the passage. I find that the second passage is typically easier than the fourth, so I'm worried that I might have missed out on an easy passage and/or easy questions.

    I know I can't go back and change this now, but I just needed to vent and get it off my chest. I'm just hoping that skipping the employee rights passage (opposed to skipping the hedges passage) didn't hurt my score too much. In an ideal world I would've liked to have finished them all, but I think if I would have gone any faster I would have sacrificed a lot of accuracy. I feel like I'm rehashing my performance in my head and remembering things that might make for a less than ideal score.

    Is anyone else torturing themselves about their RC performance last Saturday?

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    Hi guys I am trying the Fool proof method and doing like 3 copy of one game back to back, when I reach 6th try it feels like not only I memorized the inferences but I also memorized questions' already. I will write out all the inferences under timed condition and eliminate all answer choices before reaching the correct answer. But when hit target time (normally one minute less than that) I feel its more memorizing than learning. Am I doing something wrong?

    Please advise me to how to get the most out of Fool Proof Method.

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    Hello again I have another question. Ever since I began my prep I've been able to raise my PT scores by ~9 points from the low 140s to the low 150s. I have taken about 10 PTs excluding my Diagnostic and most of them were taken during the winter break(I am a senior in college). I know most of the Senpais here strongly advise against BR'ing whole PTs from the numerous threads that I've lurked on and against their advice, I have been BR'ing whole PTs for all the PTs I've taken so far. However, I have found that doing this method is extremely exhausting during the actual semester and hardly leaves me any time for actual school work. As a result, I have fallen behind on my PT schedule.I Originally planned to take 2 PTs a week with solid BR and Fool-Proof but now I am 4 Whole PTs behind schedule. I guess my question is, for anyone who has switched from BR'ing whole PTs to just the questions you miss(the actual proper recommended way), how has it affected your prep? Do you feel it more effective/efficient? Does it save A LOT more time? Does the proper method allow for a lot less stress? I had planned on BR'ing whole PTs until I was consistently hitting the low 160s but lately I've been thinking that I may need to start now to avoid falling further behind. Any insight from anyone who has had an experience with this would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch in advance and sorry for the lengthiness.

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    Hello 7sages,

    I'm confused about such rules as shown in the title, and I will use some of the examples from the PTs

    (Spoiler Alert)

    1. Exactly twice as many of the film buffs see the Hitchcock film as see the Fellini film

    2. At least many French novels as Russian novels are selected.

    3. At least twice as many roses as orchids must be used.

    I'm quite confused which one is more, hope you can give me some advice, thank you!

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    PT16-S1-G1, trying to setup the rules with conditionals and having a bit of an issue trying to figure out why Rule 3 " Neither S nor W can be added to the same class as Y" is a biconditional for S-Y and S-W instead of just a single conditional. Biconditionals are either/or/but not both and I cannot for the the life of me back that out from this conditional statement. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I can work out S-->/Y based on group 4 negate necessary but that's all........

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    I need to submit to an explanation I got for a minor warning about guests when my buddy visited me freshman year of college AND I'd like to add an LSAT addendum I recently wrote (16 point difference). What do you guys think? It is considered bad form to submit an addendum after you have completed and sent in your application about 2 weeks earlier? This would be for just one application I sent in earlier than the rest...

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    Link to question and explanation:

    https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-56-section-2-question-24/

    I watched J.Y.s explanation and he says that we're presuming the documents were in fact opened. But, is it really a presumption when the author explicitly says "WHEN the document was opened"? The author says when (in other words "if") the document is opened, then Y results. And then with (A), we're just confirming the sufficient condition, saying yes it was opened. Is that considered an assumption?

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