Hey guys,

Just wondering...

On average, how many days did it take for you to write PS for each school?

I know people would say take days as many as you need, but I was just wondering...

Thanks :)

Has anyone sent their applications over while the transcripts are still being sent over?

Hi all, again about PS :P

So to be honest, I have not decided to pursue which field yet...I'm interested in a couple, but have not chosen yet. I thought I want to decide after I enter law school, so I am choosing law school which have both of the fields that I am interested in.

So I am not going to talk about why X field in my PS, but when I read some samples, it seems people have legitimate reasons about which law they would like to practice. (and I understand it because it would be one of the reasons they choose the school.)

If I do not indicate one, would my PS look weaker? I may want to honestly say "I have not decided yet" but would it look bad?

Should I just do more research and decide which one before I even apply law school?

Thanks for your insights.

Good lord, I find this question frustrating and I cannot for the life of me determine how any single one of these answers could be seen as satisfactory.

This is the question where West says that Haynes is the worst inspector. I honestly couldn't figure out how any answer would suffice, and even seeing the correct answer, I cannot begin to fathom why it might be correct. I think this literally may be the only case where I haven't been able to even begin to understand why the right answer is correct for this question.

The correct answer states that Young responds by denying one of West's presuppositions. But I cannot see how Young does this. Young states that Haynes inspected significantly more than half of the appliances inspected last year. I immediately registered this as countering West's argument by pointing out that given the proportion of appliances Haynes inspected, it does not indicate any failing that such a high proportion of rejected appliances would have been inspected by him. Can anyone give me a breakdown of this?

Where is the "presupposition?" How on earth would Young be countering it?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-79-section-4-question-12/

in 27 minutes , bravo 7Sage

I just drilled the LG section from PT 18 and it totally threw me for a loop! Train lines? The random promotions game? What was that? I'd happily take snakes and lizards. For those of you looking for weird games, look no further :).

Off to drill them until I hit time... it was such an odd section I felt it deserved a shout out.

Hey Guys,

If you have a learning disability and register for the lsat, how much extra time do you get to take it? Or how much time for each section?

Thank you 7sage, and thank you to the community and those who answered all my quirky questions. You guys are the very best!

Is it possible to chain up bi-conditionals, and if so, what inferences can be drawn? For instance, imagine a a grouping game with three groups and the following rules:

A and B are not in the same group.

B and C are not in the same group.

The rules are:

A (---) B

B (---) C

If we take the contrapositive of the second rule (C (---) B), I believe we can link them up. A (---) B (---) C.

Can we conclude A (---) C? But if the game includes three groups, then does this inference even matter?

Hi everyone!

This is kind of a weird question, but it's on my mind whenever I take a PT. I am hovering in the mid-160's right now, and have taken a little under 10 PT's. Games is by far my worst section; only finish 3 of the 4 every time like clockwork. When I go to BR them and have all the time in the world, I usually get a perfect score (not a feat that seems to be uncommon with games when you have unlimited time to finish them).

But this always then brings my BR up into the 170s, and well...this seems inflated to me. BR is supposed to measure potential, and it seems strange to say I'm a solid 170's potential scorer right now when I have such a huge crutch in games. It's like taking out my giant Achilles' heel from the equation every time I BR, and I don't want it getting in my head that I'm doing better than I really am. (Lol I've found that ego is a dangerous enemy with the LSAT.)

Has anyone else ever encountered this issue? Or have a way to BR their games with this in mind? Thanks guys :)

I am going to take the LSAT in February. I will be applying all over Texas. I am currently scoring well enough for most schools here, and definitely not good enough for UT (my dream school). I am seeing the progress that many talk about. It is slow, but it is rewarding.

Yet, I need to go to school. My mind has been thinking, dreaming about finally getting to my first day of law school for three years now. The wait, the wasted time spent working in a job knowing that I will leave to do something fulfilling is weighing on me.

Still, what can be is beginning to haunt me. I see the improvement, I read your stories, and I begin to wonder. Maybe a 170? Maybe a 175? Who the hell knows?

Maybe I should have started last year, when I was stuck with little work in Florida? Maybe I should just bite the bullet and accept nothing but UT?

In reality, I do just want to get into a good law school that will allow me to work in Texas without fuss. I will most likely get that. Still, biting the bullet is tough. My wife thinks I am going crazy with my constant jumps of this year or next. In a way, I think I am too.

I am not sure this post requires much thought. It's just the musings of a person thinking way too much about his options.

Hey Guys,

I am very confused on this question. I thought the answer would be A.

The paragraph says in the first sentence that there are two kinds of horror: mad scientist and monstrous beast. The last sentence then says that both kinds of horror stories describe violations of the laws of nature and are intended to produce dread in the reader. Therefore, why would the answer not be A?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-42-section-2-question-16

Hi all!! I am applying for this Fall's admission cycle and my law advisor is on sabbatical so it is hard for me to find someone to constructively critique my essays. If anyone would please like to review both of these essays I would greatly appreciate it. Just inbox me or comment here and I will send it over. Thank you to anyone in advance!!

Come June 2017 LSAT Grey Day, we wanna be winning like Tracee Ellis Ross at the Golden Globes

PT 59 BR 6pm EST

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Note:

* For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able on your own; then join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.

* Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” KEEP THE CORRECT ANSWER TO YOURSELF. Win the argument with your reasoning.

* These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).

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Hey guys!

I was wondering if it is possible to increase my score to a 170 or higher if I scored a 145 on my diagnostic. I plan to write the June 2017 LSAT and do not wish to write it again but get it right the first time. I just started studying... Any tips or suggestions?

Hi everyone,

I completed my applications for three schools before writing the LSAT (Dec was my first and only take). BUT I checked today and they all show that my LSAT score is still outstanding. Do I email admissions to let them know it's available? Or is this just because they haven't updated my file online?... I don't know! PLEASE HELP! =( I am already late in the cycle and I don't want the review of my apps to take even longer.

Thanks!!!

P.S. I spoke to LSAC who said they've sent the score - it's automatic - and there is nothing I can do on their end because they've already done their part.

I'm still going through the C.C. and I just finished going through the Main Point questions, which are supposed to be the easiest ones. It was a 3.1 hr session and it took me around 12 hours across three days to go through it all. But when it came down to do the problem sets I failed miserably.

My timed score for each were (Averaging at 1.5 min for each question):

1: 4/5 (that was good)

2: 2/5

3: 1/5

4: 2/5

Even after BR my score would improve 1 point, and in some cases, some answers I chose in BR were wrong while my original answer was correct. Before doing the last problem set, I reviewed the first 3 by jotting some notes down as to why I got the answers wrong, but it still didn't pay off.

Questions:

1. Any way of finding more Main Point questions on this site? Without having me to go through each lsat to find them.

2. Any tips on how to improve revision? Did anyone experience something like this? What did you do? What did you find most helpful? I want to see an increase in score when doing the problem sets, and not just stay stuck. I feel like putting myself under time is adding a lot of pressure and so I find myself rushing to find the answer, but also sometimes I was off.

I know its only the first lesson with problem sets I have done, but I need tips.

Thanks in advance!

Okay, I tried searching, but couldn't find anything. It's a pretty basic question. I found diagramming at first fairly challenging, yet have gotten much better. I find it helpful when doing the blind review to confirm my answer. However, on actual timed PTs, I find there just isn't enough time. Often the arguments have far too many wordy concepts that are difficult to diagram, and I end up just confused between terms. I find, more often than not, diagramming eats up a lot of my time, and I am getting better and better at just seeing the answer by reading the questions. Although I still diagram the questions that have many conditional statements and are very simple sentences, anything that is very complex, I find diagramming under the time pressure doesn't help me. Is it fair to say that diagramming LR questions (e.g. parallel, PF, and especially SA questions) is mostly for just learning the conditional statements, and strengthening the learning so that it becomes somewhat intrinsic? It seems to be working for me so far since I have had significant improvements, but just wanted a second opinion on this.

I am about to finish the Trainer and move on to my next phase of study. I am curious if anyone would be willing to send me notes, flash cards, etc. that they took from the trainer. This next week I'll be compiling my own study guide, and I don't want to miss anything. My email is mheannarino@gmail.com. Also, this is an email I use for spam so I can post it publicly and fret not.

Thanks

PS: If I hadn't purchased the Trainer myself, I wouldn't ask for notes. It doesn't seem ethical to me to reap from Kim without a financial thank you.

Hello,

I have been hearing a lot about the massive amount of importance that 1L can have on one's career. I have also noticed that a common thread among successful 7Sagers on the LSAT is that they seem to study a lot more than most people. >1 year vs 3 months for your typical student.

Given these thoughts, I've been toying with an idea for succeeding in 1L. I don't know much about law school classes or the process so this might be totally off, but I figured I'd put it out there and see what you think. Here it is:

Deferring enrollment for one year before 1L in order to "ghost" the classes. Ghosting classes is where you take classes that you are not enrolled in in order to learn the information without being given an actual grade (and sometimes without even being enrolled in the school). I've heard of it being done in undergrad and possibly MBA programs, but haven't heard of it in law school. Given that 1L seems to have such such a large impact on the rest of your career, it seems that having 2 years of exposure to the material would put you at a large advantage and be very beneficial.

Ghosting would give the opportunity to get introduced to the course material, to experience the workload of law school and the study habits that are effective for it, and would allow you to begin to make the outlines. I've heard that the 1L class load is fairly similar across schools, so this may be effective even if you are ghosting at a different school than you plan to attend.

Given the immense importance 1L has on your career, it seems that having 2 years to study for it versus one would give someone a large advantage?

What do you guys think? Would this be feasible and possible to do in a law class setting? Would this be beneficial and effective? This was fairly off the cuff and I am certainly no expert in law school, so please feel free to correct any incorrect assumptions I may have made.

Thanks so much for the help!

The course planner is an amazing tool and I absolutely love this community. I am glad to be a contributing member now.

I have a question as to which books I should start reading before I start actually start the course. Any suggestions would be great!!! Thank you.

I needed to post about this because *sings* "for the first time in forever" I have broken a barrier! I'm now ten points up from my first PT and feel as though I'm making new progress. Thank you to everyone on this forum for being so kind and gracious in your advice. May we all conquer the LSAT!

Hi guys,

I was wondering if you guys have any good tip in terms of approaching parallel questioning? So far, after doing 15 question, the only thing that I came up with:

1) Attention to structure

2) If difficult to understand, supply with an example to fill the referencing words.

Any good tips for this type of questions?

Thanks,

Panda

I would love to join forces with any of you out there-- either in person or online! I live in Poughkeepsie, NY, but I work in Manhattan (for any of the locals?). Either way, looking forward to the next 4 months.

In the games videos, when JY sees the rule "if P, then not Q", he writes:

P -> Q

But when he sees "if Q, then not P" he writes:

Q -> P

But these mean exactly the same thing. Why write it one way but not the other?

It seems to me that something like P (-|-) Q would express the symmetry better, and visually indicate to the reader than P and Q are "equal" with respect to their relationship under this rule.