After a 2 month break (and a more recent week-long trip which was extended thanks to a winter storm), I am fully committing myself to study for the LSAT again. I took the December exam and did absolutely horrible, a score that I'm legitimately embarrassed to reveal, a score that I KNOW is not indicative of what I am capable of scoring. I didn't even bother applying anywhere because what the hell was the point... I basically took a 2 month hiatus from LSAT/TLS/7sage. I actually feel refreshed and looking forward to study for this S.O.B again. The positive thing about already taking it is that I know what DIDN'T work: taking 3 PT's a week, followed by a crappy BR session afterwards... not learning from mistakes on PTs... barely drilling... barely exercising and not relieving stress/anxiety... barely working in order to study (I seriously took 1.5 months off prior to my exam)... not mimicking test-day as well as I thought did... I can go on and on, unfortunately.....

I have 10 fresh PTs (plus whatever most recent PTs are available that I'll purchase which will bring the total to about 14 or 15, right?). I'm really thinking about re-taking in October because I honestly don't feel that June is enough time for ME. I believe that October will allow me to balance LSAT / Life / Small Vacations / Work... June feels rushed to me.

I plan to take a PT every other week in the exact room I took the actual exam, followed by BR and drilling, something I didn't really do despite having the cambridge bundle! I've been going to the gym since Jan 1st (new year, new me watch out watch out haha), gotten into a routine and whatnot. Also plan to work more than I did before (work at my family's business, so hours are lenient which is how I took 1.5 months off as previously mentioned).

How should I go about getting things back into motion, getting the juices flowing?

Do you feel that waiting til October is worse than taking in June?

I'm starting again on Monday the 8th.

Okay, so my test center is on a local university campus. I went today to make sure I could find the building and what not. My ticket doesn't say a room number or anything. I may be over thinking this out of nerves.. But will it just be obvious where to go once I am in the building?

Just wondering what this means. My UVA application said it was under review on 1/26/2015 and now it says under review but with today's date. Is that UR2?

Right after I transfer all the rules into Lawgic I go straight to the first question. My reasoning:

1. I am less likely to make mistakes because my paper is not written on yet.

2. When I split I like to represent my rules on my boards like JY and at times I would forget what the rule was.

3. Doing question one first is my insurance policy. If I take 3 minutes to split my boards and go to question one only to find I misread a rule I wasted all that time splitting on boards that aren't real.

Thoughts?

Hi everyone,

For those of you who have already submitted their applications, I have a quick question. I'm strongly considering visiting my top choices in person (two I'm waiting to hear back from and two I've been waitlisted at). If I decide to do this, what's the protocol for a campus visit? I was already planning taking a campus tour and sitting in on some classes. On TLS, Mike Spivey also recommended visiting the admissions office. If I do that, what do I say to an admissions officer? What kind of questions should I ask? What should I say/not say? Any advice from you guys would be enormously appreciated, I'm feeling a bit lost during this portion of the application process. Studying for the LSAT was so much more straightforward lol.

This is a hard SA question, and I don't see what I am missing. How is answer choice A a sufficient assumption?

My diagram:

(Solution to environmental problem not caused by the government)--->(Major change in consumer habits)--->(Economically Enticing)

Therefore, (Not Economically enticing)--->(Few serious ecological problems solved).

What I am looking for: This is a pretty simply A to B to C argument, and the conclusion as a Not C in it. To link up the chain, say (Not solution to environmental problem not caused by the government)--->(Few serious ecological problems solved).

Answers B-E are way wrong, but I don't see how answer A paraphrases the sufficient assumption at all.

Link: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-44-section-2-question-13/

So I have finished the curriculum and I have noticed that Im still very weak on games, and I don't feel comfortable enough to start PTs because I'm horrible at games still. Would it be more beneficial to spend another week or 2 to maybe watch and do all the lectures in the curriculum for games again? That's the only thing that's stopping me from PTing. I initially wanted to have 4 months of PTing... But in the long run if I spend another two weeks relearning how to do games for the second time by watching the lectures over again for each game type and doing the fool proof method again then it will click, and I'll still have 3 and a half months to left to PT until June 7th which is plenty of time right? Otherwise I'll just bomb game sections on PTs and it will go to waste.

I am applying for the 2016 cycle. Registered for the February, which is my third take. I cancelled my second score due to bubbling error and used my first score to apply, which should get me into some fine law schools. Everyone around me think I should give it a last try. So I prepped for another month and took 77 and ended up with the exact same score which I got for my first take. I would wish anyone to give me some advise on whether to take the test on Saturday! Thanks!

Hey guys! I got invited to the Georgetown group interview. Just wanted to see if any 7sagers have done this and if you have any tips :)

What games do you think would be the best to do on test day?

Took super detailed notes so either I missed it in the course or it is not in there yet.

As follows: "Which one of the following would be most useful to know in order to evaluate the argument?"

They have a RRE feel? At any rate can someone point me in the right direction for these?

One of JY's reading comp explanations really helped me easily mentally compartmentalize 'than' in complex sentences saving me tons of time (eg whatever thing comes before 'than' is the winner). I am not sure if this even makes sense, but wondering if anyone could share a foolproof method for understanding the word 'against' in sentences?

Back in the late 70s, my dad was trying to figure out what to do as far as careers go and his brother had casually suggested law school as an option. Not knowing much my dad reached out to his Uncle Stan, a successful trial lawyer in New Jersey, for advice. The following is the letter that Stan wrote by hand and which to this day is very insightful and I thought, relevant, to so many of us who are contemplating this intense future. I hope you find it as interesting as I did.

Saturday 9/7/77

Dear Robbie,

How are you? We are all fine. And so without further adieu, as the say, and in response to your recent letter.

An old law school professor of mine stressed that there is no such thing as “the law.” What he was trying to bring out is that the law is dynamic. It mirrors life. It is not static, it changes. True it’s always ten years behind what ought to be, but that’s another story.

The law has been likened to a seamless web, and by that is meant it has many facets, many areas of interest and at the same time is interesting and without end. There is no limit to the time that can be spent studying, applying, analyzing, interpreting. And for that it is also called a jealous mistress. You can keep your options open and gravitate towards that which interests you - contract law, corporate, criminal, trial work (which I find most interesting and rewarding), estates, tax, labor, to name only a few areas - and in each you can spend a lifetime and still continue to learn new things every day.

In the practice of law you live by your wits, and by that I mean it’s a thinking man’s profession. It takes time to learn the tools, which is true in any field of endeavor you choose, and these are blended with life’s experience. The student who graduates with all A’s may not be prepared for this if his time has been limited solely to books and libraries. The graduate with experience in assorted life’s jobs, with a feel for people, will do better as he’s better equipped.

Before considering the law as a profession ask yourself if you are willing to pay the price. Sacrifices have to be made. Three years of constant study are gruelling in the sense that the work is cumulative, continual, absorbing but sometimes tedious, all with a view towards making the student realize that each incident in life has many issues and how to evaluate them. No one day is terribly difficult, yet the total sum of all studies is burdensome. Along the way about one-third will drop out, if not more, and of those who graduate only about one-third will become full time practitioners, and of those who do last it will take each about three years of actual practice before he becomes worth something and can command a decent salary or be able to strike out into private practice.

Is it worth all that time, effort and money? Absolutely! It’s stimulating, fascinating, challenging, rewarding, gratifying, ego inflating and financially renumerative. As you get older and stay in the practice, the value of the attorney increases - as opposed to other non-professions, e.g. salesmen. But one has to be ready to make the sacrifices in the beginning, to desire, to want it.

Should you attempt to do it? I think it’s a great idea, but don’t count on instant rewards. Project ahead a steady growth for each year, improving your prospects, and of knowing that the cream will rise to the top, and if you can demonstrate that patience and motivation you will be guaranteed the eventual exhilarance of the practice of law, and I know you’ll do well.

Love,

Stan

P.S. you can see lawyers tend to talk a lot especially if they are asked a question and have a captive audience that they love.

Question: I'm about to withdraw from the February LSAT so as to take it in June instead, but I just want to make sure that a withdrawal doesn't count as a take! I've already taken it two times and (even though I'm pretty sure it doesn't count) just want to be one the safe side. Also- you just withdraw on the lsac website right?

Just got an invite for a Skype interview in a couple weeks. Has anyone else done one of these? Tips?

I know I'm not in until I'm in... but should I take this as a good sign or an entirely neutral one?

I've noticed that one of my big problems with LG (and there are _many_, are maximum/minimum questions. For example, "the maximum number of Bs that can be in group F is___?" These questions are difficult for me because it's tough to know when I'm getting them wrong. In other words, I don't know when I've done all I can to get to the solution. Now, you might just say, "Run down your rules and make sure you haven't failed anything." Right, OK, but sometimes you do that and you still haven't maximized or minimized because there are other valid solutions that contain more or less of the variable in question. Unfortunately, I don't find JY's videos particularly helpful here because it seems like he just sees the best way to do the problem (and/or he has the benefit of hindsight and an answer key). Are there any actual strategies I can use here, or am I at the mercy of my intuition?

So, ten years ago i applied to this law school and was rejected. I ended up not going to LS at all back then. Am applying again now, and reapplying to said school again. Should I "touch upon" it in my personal statement? I kind of don't want to but…Thanks all in advance.

What are some things that would help me get off the waitlist?

Hi guys,

Does anybody know about how much data would a video use (say a 10 minute one) on an iPhone? I'm trying to figure out how careful I need to be watching the videos without a WiFi connection.

Thanks!

Hey guys—

We're hip. I promise. We do the Snap Chats, just like the teens and the youths.

So, add us: official7sage

I'll be monitoring the account between now and the exam on Saturday (and forever after, of course) and would love to share some encouragement, good vibes, pump up the jams, all of the above.

I am retaking the test for a second time and have just come off an intense run with testmasters, but as you've some people here have pointed out so well, each test prep source has its own strengths/weaknesses. The first time I sat for the test, I was seriously underprepared and scored a 153, which was devastating. After recovering from that, I took up a testmasters tutoring course, and now I'm scoring higher, in the mid to high160's, but my scores on practice tests tend to fluctuate quite a bit and I also tend to struggle with keeping time, so most of these scores are not based on true test taking conditions (I think I'd score much lower in reality because as things are going I rarely tend to finish a section under 35 minutes!). Now I'm tempted to consider pushing back my scheduled test date (February 6th to June 6th) so that I can try out this blind review method... However I should say that I think pushing back the test will only be worth the sacrifice in time if this method is truly likely to help me significantly increase my score (ideally breaking into the low to mid 170's). Do you think I should do it? I would appreciate any thoughts/advice on this!

Hey guys,

If your inbox looks anything like mine, it's probably drowning with emails from law schools encouraging you to apply and blah blah blah. Once in a while, I get an email from a school I'm actually interested in. This is where my question comes in:

If I'm applying NEXT cycle, how can I go about building a relationship with the admissions people now? Have you guys tried to? Any tips are appreciated.

June Test Takers! Great work last week, gang!

Here’s the schedule this week:

BR GROUPS

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You can also dial in to the BR call by using your phone.

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HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE!

Be sure to announce in the comments which group(s) you’re planning on attending.

Fine Print (NOTE: you all want to be lawyers; reading fine print is what lawyers do, so READ IT!)

BR GROUP NOTES:

Wondering if anyone has had experience with different approaches to RC passages. I would specifically like to know what notation 'systems' have worked for other people. Thanks!

Hello 7sagers, does anyone have any idea how to get the correct answer of question 20 of the second section of logical reasoning from dec 15 lsat? Trying to diagram out the conditionals and am struggling. My tutor couldn't even figure out this question.... JY Ping?? Advice from a logical expert would be greatly appreciated as this question is haunting my dreams!!