Hello guys, so I just had a realization that I did not want to face but I might have no choice. So my goal score is a 165 and I have taken a total of 11 PTs. My scores were 158,164,161,161,164,162 for the first 6 tests, which were fine by me and I felt as though I can take the September test and get pretty close to my target score. HOWEVER, here is my issue. I recently took PTs 73-76 in order to gear up for the September LSAT during the past week or two and I scored 158,158,159, and a 154 (which is what made me write this.). Seeing that 154 just sucked man because I was hoping to be ready by September. I'm now realizing that I may have to take the December and February(if needed) tests instead. Anyway, i have a few questions for you guys. 1. Am i making the right choice by postponing? 2. From where I'm averaging, is a 165 possible by December? Im asking this question with my recent scores of 158,158,159 and 154 in mind. These recent PTs seem to have been more difficult for me as my averages have dropped. 3. If a 165 is possible, what is the best possible approach I can take in my studying from now until December? I would appreciate ANY suggestions because I'm willing to hear out all advice. I was taking PTs almost every other day in order to get ready for September but Im now realizing that I might have made a mistake with that. Should I take less PTs per week and spend more time on BR? I would appreciate the feedback guys. I really want to be averaging a 165 by December so I want to make sure i approach studying the right way since I had to figure out the hard way that only 3-4 months of studying isn't going to cut it.

I'm going to stop checking all LSAT related discussion boards starting tomorrow so I just wanted to wish everyone on this forum taking the September test good luck -- we got this :D!

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It's that time of year, and I'm wondering if past test takers can regale us with some stories or tips for test day.

I'm a first time test take myself but I'm mentally preparing for some details to go awry on test day. I know how proctors can be overly strict, overly careless like forgetting to give us a 5 minute warning, etc. I'm also aware that I may be too anxious to sleep the night prior, so I'm trying to fix my sleep schedule now.

When this happens, I hope I can be like a duck when wet: just have it all slide down my back.

What are some stories, good or bad? What are some tips, like what are you planning to eat the morning of? What's it like to show up on test day? I'm sure the test doesn't actually start at 8:30am sharp since people have to sign in. But what's the typical starting time? 30 minutes after, or even one hour?

Just took my first diagnostic since I started the course on Monday ( the recommended one by LSAC). Boooooyyyyy am I humbled.

153.

-6 LG

-10/-11 LR

-8 RC

Why am I posting this? I guess I would rather have it out there since I was a bit disappointed. 170 is the goal and I am 2 and a half months out from December/ 4 and half from February.

I thought I would have gotten at least a 160 considering I have been averaging about 75 to 80 percent on the Curriculum timed questions. Still, even an at home simulated exam felt a bit different. Those connections weren't coming as easily as they should. That's why we practice. Had to vent. Thank you for giving me the space to do so :)

I purchased PT 76 and 77 from Amazon, but the format is completely wrong, has anyone successfully used Kindle versions of PTs to practice?

I was wondering if being an international applicant helps? I see that being URM helps a lot, but what about internationals?

Hi guys,

So i decided to study until i average 170 on lsat. Do you think anybody can do this with hard work and dedication? Or do you believe some people are not made to hit 170?

I only have 2 months until the test date. So I was wondering which course would be most beneficial to take? Would I have enough time to go through the LSAT Ultimate (the most recommended) in time.

the stimulus it says "getting more calories" on the other hand D says "uses more calories" I thought the two are different things...why D strengthen the stimulus?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-77-section-2-question-02/

(Link to explanation for ease of access: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-28-section-2-game-2/ )

"Each of the following could be a complete and accurate list of the researchers who learn both S and Y EXCEPT:

A) H

B) P

C) HL

D) HP

E) LP"

I am having a really difficult time understanding this question. How can 4 of the ACs ALL be complete and accurate? As far as I understand it, a list that is complete AND accurate can take only one form... the one with all of the correct elements listed. So I don't understand what this question is asking for at all. I wasn't even able to understand the explanation because I couldn't comprehend what the question is asking for.

Please help me understand this one, thanks!

I was wondering if there was a time limit to how long we had access to the pdf disclosed version of the exam that LSAC sent to our accounts if we took the exam on June 2016. Is there also a limit to how long we have access to the score report?

I was wondering what exactly it is that we need to bring with us on the day of the test.

I heard from some people that I need two forms of id? is that true because all I have is my drivers license

This question came up on the last BR group call this Wednesday. I'm really curious what you all think about this question! I'd also love to know what your strategies and approaches for tackling this question are. It's a point of disagreement question which (I was so confident that I knew how to easily identify the correct answer to and that I haven't had much of a problem with but it still) defeated me. With the help of some 7sagers I was able to understand what I did wrong. Thanks @Daniel.Sieradzki @twssmith Thom, and @"Cant Get Right" for helping me see my mistakes and convincing me not to go back and redo everything in the CC!

I wrote out a page --a love letter so to speak---for this question in an attempt to give myself the best chance of never making the same mistakes that I did on this question again. I was between choices B and D and I had issues seeing why the correct answer was correct.

Primarily, my first careless mistake was ignoring/not discriminating enough between the meaning of "to the satisfaction of ALL skeptics"..."ALL" I selected an ac with a massive red flag sweeping generalization. Second mistake-- not eliminating B because Chin does not address extrasensory perception in terms of "if it were a real phenomenon." My third failure was that I did not correctly apply the conclusion from Chin's statement (compared to Waller's) and the answer choice as to identify which point they disagree on.

It was interesting that on analytics this question has a high degree of difficulty and most people selected the same incorrect answer I did. So basically the test writers exploited my careless mistakes with the convoluted nature of the real answer choice....well played LSAC

I find myself doing worse on the sections after the 15 minute break. I feel like I get "out of my zone" after going hard on the first 3 sections. Anyone have any strategies to combat this?

2 weeks back I was ecstatic cuz PT's were actually being sane.

PT 70 - 172 (I was like wut O.O)

PT 71 - 168

PT 72 - 171

Then

PT 73 - 166

PT 74 - 167

PT 76 - 167

PT 77 - 165

*(skipped PT 75 for December prep if needed)

and latest PT 78 got a 164. Now either I had a split personality take over one week/ the earlier 70's were not representative, OR .. hmm I actually have no clue.

I need some thoughts from the wonderful people out there, and if similar things have happened to you guys and how to deal with life (lol)

Also! It's my LR that has suffered. It was averaging -3 to -4 now its gone back to -4 - -7 which is rather frightening. PT 78 I actually managed a -8 in one of the LR sections...

My last PTs are confusing me. They have been 167, 156, 161, 164, 165. I'm shooting for 168 or 169. So the 156 was due to me rushing through the exam, I've been trying to figure out how to pace myself and finally got it with this last PT 167. When I take the appropriate time on each question and read well on reading comp I do better. I employed this strategy and got the 167 on PT 74. All of these recent PTs have been in the 70s. I'm just nervous if that 167 was luck... It didn't feel like it because I really focusing and taking the time to catch small details but with my variation in scores I'm nervous coming up on the September test.

I was wondering what thoughts or ideas you guys and gals have on prepping during the last week before the actual LSAT. Should I do more prep tests and blind review them slowly, just do timed sections? Would like to hear some strategies or ideas you have.

Thanks

I almost finished the LR part of the CC. I wonder what materials you guys use for RC.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

I just took a PT today. I debated not taking it because I was super tired and I've just been not channeling positive LSAT energy these past few days. Still, I told myself I could do it and took it.

I was pretty happy because I thought I had been doing well, applying my processes and whatnot. Then I graded it and was floored: -6 in RC, -6 in LR1, and -4 in LG. I haven't seen such consistent bombing in a long time -- usually it just requires warm up and MAYBE I'll just rank one section, but rarely 3 in a row. What kills me is that I did much worse on this PT than I did 2/3 months ago, meaning somehow my score indicates my reasoning ability is getting worse which I know logically doesn't make sense but still feels that way.

Just needed to vent because I'm trying not to feel so distraught. I've been doing a good job of maintaining a positive mindset but my positivity is wearing out and now I'm feeling incredibly anxious.

Hey Guys,

This may seem like a stupid question but.... I have always made copies of logic games when they were 1 page each, and I constantly redid them until the inferences stuck in my head as JY says.

Now, I am at 2 page logic games, and I am wondering the best way to copy them. Do you double side them? Or do you just do 2 separate pages?

I'm in need of advice. I've been feeling unwell since the beginning of this week, and I thought it was just another burnout. So I lightened my LSAT workload but kept doing school and work as usual. However, some flu symptoms showed up yesterday and I feel really sick today. I sat down to take a PT this morning, and felt extreme fatigue and had a horrible headache. I'm really worried for the test next weekend. I've been prepping for a long time, and I have been hitting my target score before this week. What should I do?

Hey guys,

This is going to sound a little strange but bear with me. So I was doing Pt's in the 50's and 60's and was getting around 160 - 165 generally. As soon as I hit the late 60's and early 70's my score suddenly jumped to 170 - 172.

Just wondering if this has happened to anyone else! And is it because of becoming better through practice*hopes very hard* or because the Pt's became slightly different.

It is rather strange to worried over a score increase but... O.o

Hey Guys,

I've officially decided to take the December LSAT instead of the September LSAT. I experienced heavy burnout and took the last 2 weeks easy and in order to maximize my score I know I need to take it later.

My question is: How does one use the 7Sage starter package? Do you have any recommendations on how to use the videos to guide my studying. How many hours should I watch per day? Should I supplement the videos I watch with question sets not included in the quizzes? Do you recommend spending a couple days on a certain section?

I guess what I'm aiming for is to use the actual videos to build an even stronger foundation, however I want to finish that with enough time for me to do just PTs for a solid 3 weeks before the December 3rd exam date.

All in all: How did you use 7Sage to structure your learning? Thanks!

so hopefully this is a temporary loss of clarity, but I can't quite articulate the difference. In grouping games it seems that both A-->/B and A(--)/B can both be represented visually on a gameboard stacked in a box with a slash no? As in, if A is in a group then B is not; compared to A and B cannot both be in the same group.

Someone get my back!

Hey Guys,

I submitted my transcripts, and I saw that they have degree GPA and normal GPA. Which one do law schools primarily look at? Does degree GPA really matter?