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BR Group!!!! PT 46!
Talk to your heart’s content at Group BR
Saturday, Feb 13th at 8PM ET: PT46
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Hi guys I am trying the Fool proof method and doing like 3 copy of one game back to back, when I reach 6th try it feels like not only I memorized the inferences but I also memorized questions' already. I will write out all the inferences under timed condition and eliminate all answer choices before reaching the correct answer. But when hit target time (normally one minute less than that) I feel its more memorizing than learning. Am I doing something wrong?
Please advise me to how to get the most out of Fool Proof Method.
https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-56-section-3-question-21
I understand Jon's explanation on this question, but I was tricked by the question's word choice "revival" in the answer choice (D).
Doesn't "revival" imply that the ballroom dancing had been once popular before?
The passage doesn't mention anything about this.
Probably, I was too nitpicking, but could you clarify this?
Thanks!
I chose B because I thought it weakened the argument showing that it does not matter the amount a person digesting the fiber thus weakening Kyra's claim.
Can someone explain A and B to me?
C) being economical and readily available does not affect Kyra's argument and thus is irrelevant, we only care about how absorption affects mineral absorption
D) calcium intake is discussing new information, bone mass and osteoporosis is irrelevant because it's not even discussed about in the argument/recommendation
E) Strengthens. People are getting fiber from other places which supports Kyra's claim that with the amount recommended people would be more likely to have fiber that is significantly above the recommended intake and affect mineral absorption
Proctors: 4 or 5 proctors. One read instructions and stayed in the front the entire time and handled the timer. The others walked around the room. The instruction reader was very nice and gave everyone ample time in between sections to get ready for the next section.
Facilities: facilities are nice. There are 2 bathrooms for males and 2 for females so the line isn't too bad during break. Couches to sit on in lobby during snack break as well.
What kind of room: lecture hall in the law school. Fairly large room that seats probably ~200 people at max capacity.
How many in the room: ~100. They staggered seating so you have an empty seat to each side of you.
Desks: desks are very large. As stated, seats are staggered so you have an empty seat to each side of you. Chairs are the kind that swivel out from beneath the desk and have high back. If you lay your chest flat on desk and spread your arms out you still won't touch your test-mates space probably, that's how much room you have.
Left-handed accommodation: not Really a need for this as you have so much space, but they put me on the far left next to the isle since I'm left handed I'm assuming.
Noise levels: noise was non-existent on the part of the proctors, facility, outside etc. The only noise was other test takers and their sniffly noses and coughing lungs...
Parking: Parking is an not really an issue. They said the law school parking lot would be available but the gate was down so people couldn't park there. Luckily since the law campus is right next to the civic center and fsu, there is ample parking in the parking garage and civic center. (this would be different if you take the test on a Saturday that is a home football game. You may get towed or ticketed if you park in those spaces)
Time elapsed from arrival to test: ~1 hour.
Irregularities or mishaps: none that stand out. Proctors were professional, no outside noise, etc.
Other comments: As stated above, if you take the test in Sept/Oct and fsu has a home football game You may run into some outside noise and parking issues. FSU sells the parking garage spots as tailgate spots and people get pretty rowdy on game day. Also the law school is next to the civic center which often hosts game day events there. So be cautious of that when signing up.
Would you take the test here again? Yes.
Hello all!
So I recently started the 7Sage Curriculum from the beginning again and I also have Mike Kim's LSAT Trainer. My question is, would it better to go through the 7Sage curriculum first and then focus on the LSAT Trainer, or could I do both simultaneously? I dont want to do anything that may be detrimental when it comes to how best to prepare. Also, if I do both simultaneously, is it in my best interest to only do the same topic in the Trainer as I am doing in 7Sage or would it be okay to work on different areas? Thanks for the advice and help!
We're so excited to be bringing you four (yes, four) FREE webinars this week.
Note on all webinars: Only the live webinars are free and open to the public. No recordings will be made publicly available, but we do plan to make webinars available to 7sage's students in the future as part of the paid course. So if you want to get some great webinar content for free, be sure to attend the live version. Furthermore, any recording or broadcasting of webinars is strictly prohibited (Periscope, screencapture, etc.) and constitutes a violation of LSAC's copyright. Copyright infringement is not a good way to start a legal career.
Necessary Assumptions with Sage Jimmy Dahroug
Friday 2/12 at 6pm ET
Sage Jimmy (173) is offering an intensive on Necessary Assumption questions. As a primer, take a look at this classic video:
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Necessary Assumptions with Sage Jimmy Dahroug
Fri, Feb 12, 2016 5:00 PM - 6:30 PM CST
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Like a lot of you who took the LSAT last weekend, I found the RC section to be incredibly difficult. I'm not good at RC to begin with and typically have to skip an entire passage because I don't read fast enough.
This past weekend I decided to stick with my strategy and do only 3 passages, but go slowly and make sure that I'm reasonably accurate. Well, I'm afraid that strategy may have backfired on me. I knew once I read the first passage that LSAC had come out swinging with a really tough RC section since I struggled to maintain my focus and felt like I wasn't retaining much from the passage. I ended up taking my time with three passages only, but I wasn't very confident in the answers I chose. The first passage took me a lot longer than usual. Once I got to the second passage (the one about employee rights), I couldn't focus. I re-read the first paragraph twice and lost my focus completely and didn't retain anything so I skipped it and moved onto the third and fourth passages. The fourth passage about hedges was very difficult, but I didn't find the comparative passage about smart growth too bad. I'm starting to regret skipping the second passage and am wishing I would have tried reading it again. But then again, maybe I would have wasted even more time struggling with the passage. I find that the second passage is typically easier than the fourth, so I'm worried that I might have missed out on an easy passage and/or easy questions.
I know I can't go back and change this now, but I just needed to vent and get it off my chest. I'm just hoping that skipping the employee rights passage (opposed to skipping the hedges passage) didn't hurt my score too much. In an ideal world I would've liked to have finished them all, but I think if I would have gone any faster I would have sacrificed a lot of accuracy. I feel like I'm rehashing my performance in my head and remembering things that might make for a less than ideal score.
Is anyone else torturing themselves about their RC performance last Saturday?
Proctors: Two proctors onsite. The proctor in charge did not speak English well so it was a challenge to understand instructions which made the test takers uneasy. Also, he seemed new to the entire process so was not always sure about what he was saying. That said, both proctors were nice.
Facilities: Nice big building with plenty of room to hang out and even get food. Nice overall.
What kind of room: Small classroom were used. It was nice and clean.
How many in the room: Approx. 16 ppl per room with 2 proctors assigned to each room.
Desks: Small desks but enough room for test material and supplies. Did not negatively impact test experience.
Left-handed accommodation:Nope
Noise levels: Nice and quiet. No noise issue.
Parking: Plenty of complimentary parking on campus for visitors.
Time elapsed from arrival to test: Approx. 1 hour. They were running late with registration of the test takers. Did not get assigned to the room until around 9:30am. Was done with the test around 2:15pm.
Irregularities or mishaps: See above re: running late. Also, the ppl doing the registration were not sure which items were not allowed/allowed which took some time to sort out.
Other comments: I would not arrive early since there is significant wait time for registration and assignment to the test room.
Would you take the test here again? Yes. Campus is nice and big. Actual room for test was also nice and quiet. Proctors were nice as well.
Has anyone ever received a text message as part of the recruiting process? I've recently gained admission to a top law school with a scholarship offer. Today I received a text message from someone at the law school.
I'm really just curious as I've never seen this mentioned anywhere.
Hey guys! Here's the official Feb. LSAT Discussion Thread. Please keep all discussions of the Feb. 2016 LSAT here.
Here's some ground rules, taken from my usual sticky:
We know that everyone will be excited to discuss what was on the Feb '16 LSAT, but mentioning specifics about the test (e.g., "I got B for question 6" or "the 3rd LG was sequencing") can get both us and you in a lot of trouble with LSAC. Saying that the test was hard/easy without going into detail is okay, but anything more specific is not okay. LSAC monitors this forum.
If you're unsure what may be too specific, feel free to PM me with what you'd like to post.
One exception is you can say which section was the experimental. For example, the LG with "flowers" was experimental. That's okay.
TL;DR: PLEASE don't talk specifics about February's LSAT!
Have fun discussing!
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Please note that the information below will change to reflect the information we get! Contribute if you can without going into too much detail. If you think something is wrong or should be added, please post in the thread and let me know.
Real Sections:
LG:
- Pillows and Mirrors
- Madrid, Paris, and London / Cities
- Volunteers
- Photographs of Authors / Bookstore
RC:
- Shrubs & Bushes
- Urban Smart Growth / Suburban Sprawl
- Employees Rights / Workplace Ethics
- Female Sculptor
LR:
- Moths / Bats / Tweek Tweek Sound
- Physics / Psychology
- Intention Pollution
- Politican
- High Cholesterol
- Vital Interests
- Nests / Fleas
- Broca Area / Bilinguals
- Altruistic Behavior / Monkeys
- Redefining Church
- Bacteria Fungi
- Wolves and Wolf Subspecies
- Machine with blue/green light
- Outdoors vs. Treadmill
- Intentionally creating art
- Electronic toll systems
- Burglars with initials G and S
- Cellphone insurance deductible
- Laughter and social bonding
- Desires and beliefs
- Absinthe
- Neanderthals' food
- Expanding downtown
- Damming a river
- Gala / Music Awards
- Skin Disorder / Cancer
UNCONFIRMED:
If you can confirm that these are real / experimental, please do so by replying to this thread or PMing me.
None right now!
Hello again I have another question. Ever since I began my prep I've been able to raise my PT scores by ~9 points from the low 140s to the low 150s. I have taken about 10 PTs excluding my Diagnostic and most of them were taken during the winter break(I am a senior in college). I know most of the Senpais here strongly advise against BR'ing whole PTs from the numerous threads that I've lurked on and against their advice, I have been BR'ing whole PTs for all the PTs I've taken so far. However, I have found that doing this method is extremely exhausting during the actual semester and hardly leaves me any time for actual school work. As a result, I have fallen behind on my PT schedule.I Originally planned to take 2 PTs a week with solid BR and Fool-Proof but now I am 4 Whole PTs behind schedule. I guess my question is, for anyone who has switched from BR'ing whole PTs to just the questions you miss(the actual proper recommended way), how has it affected your prep? Do you feel it more effective/efficient? Does it save A LOT more time? Does the proper method allow for a lot less stress? I had planned on BR'ing whole PTs until I was consistently hitting the low 160s but lately I've been thinking that I may need to start now to avoid falling further behind. Any insight from anyone who has had an experience with this would be much appreciated. Thanks a bunch in advance and sorry for the lengthiness.
PT16-S1-G1, trying to setup the rules with conditionals and having a bit of an issue trying to figure out why Rule 3 " Neither S nor W can be added to the same class as Y" is a biconditional for S-Y and S-W instead of just a single conditional. Biconditionals are either/or/but not both and I cannot for the the life of me back that out from this conditional statement. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I can work out S-->/Y based on group 4 negate necessary but that's all........
Link to question and explanation:
https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-56-section-2-question-24/
I watched J.Y.s explanation and he says that we're presuming the documents were in fact opened. But, is it really a presumption when the author explicitly says "WHEN the document was opened"? The author says when (in other words "if") the document is opened, then Y results. And then with (A), we're just confirming the sufficient condition, saying yes it was opened. Is that considered an assumption?
Dear 7Sagers,
Do you give your PS a title? Why or why not? I can't decide right now..
Thank you!
When entering my pretest answers in the analytics , I put B on all the questions that I did not have time to get to. Is this ok still to find out my weakest areas in the pre-test sections?
We're so excited to be bringing you four (yes, four) FREE webinars this week.
Note on all webinars: Only the live webinars are free and open to the public. No recordings will be made publicly available, but we do plan to make webinars available to 7sage's students in the future as part of the paid course. So if you want to get some great webinar content for free, be sure to attend the live version. Furthermore, any recording or broadcasting of webinars is strictly prohibited (Periscope, screencapture, etc.) and constitutes a violation of LSAC's copyright. Copyright infringement is not a good way to start a legal career.
Timing Strategies with Sage Corey Janson
Thursday, February 11th | 9pm ET
Sage Corey (176) wants us to know when to hold em, know when to fold em, know when to walk away, know when to run. Join us for an intensive on everyone's favorite LSAT topic: timing strategies. Questions/topics include:
—Worried about skipping and not having time to come back?
—Timing data from an actual PT Corey's taken just for us
—How to generally improve your timing
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Timing Strategies with Sage Corey Janson | Thurs. 2/11 at 9pm ET
Thu, Feb 11, 2016 8:00 PM - 9:30 PM CST
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Thank you so much for the support here at 7sage! I would like to share my notes after learning all the lessons from various sources.
Reasoning Structure Questions:
Opinion Questions:
Detail Questions:
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Good Luck!!!
were just getting the item response answer sheet (not the actual test to look at) for FEB 16 LSAT right?
We’re doing a double!!!!
Talk to your heart’s content at Group BR
Thursday, Feb 11th at 1PM ET: PT 46
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Thursday, Feb 11th at 8PM ET: PT 73
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June BR Group Schedule: http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/6171/june-test-takers-group-br-schedule-updated
NOTE: I front-loaded the PT 70 - 75 because I believe that people need to get eyes on 70s sooner rather than later. We’ll still have PT 76 and 77 available to PT in May. Trust me when I say it is worth it to do these tests twice. And if you don’t feel comfortable hitting the 70s yet, don’t worry. We’re going to repeat this cycle of PT 70-75 at the end of February just in case.
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If need be, I plan on taking the LSAT for a fourth time.. (depending on feb score)
My first take was in June 2014, since then I've taken it two more times. Will I be able to take it again June 2016? Does that follow the 3 times in 2 years rule? I believe I read it is 2 years from your first write?
I have been working on logic games really hard. Yes, I have made vast improvements that I am happy with. However, I notice that on logic games from approximately 1990’s to early 2000’s, many of the games seem “weird.” In short, I do a lot better with the more recent games.
Is this something that I should be worried about???
June Test Takers! Great work last week, gang! Because there was demand for an earlier BR session, we’re now also doing Wednesday at 12pm EST. Please let us know in the comments if you plan on coming or if you’d like any adjustments to be made.
Here’s the schedule this week:
BR GROUPS
Tuesday, Feb 9th at 8PM ET: PT 45
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Thursday, Feb 11th at 1PM ET: PT 46
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Thursday, Feb 11th at 8PM ET: PT 73
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LSATurday, Feb 13th at 8PM ET: PT46
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HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE!
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Fine Print (NOTE: you all want to be lawyers; reading fine print is what lawyers do, so READ IT!)
BR GROUP NOTES:
I went through the cirriculum, and now I am left with taking exams. I still am not comfortable with games and I would like to revisit parts of the cirriculum for some of the LR questions that I have issues with. And obviously since I have done all of the RC sections I will just do some from extra exams that I bought. I would like to spend another month doing the LG bundles from exams 1-35 (which I have not had a chance to do, because I was heavily involved learning the cirriculum). Also I think revisiting some of the LR, if not all of the LR lessons and the practice problems will help me grasp a quicker understanding of the cirriculum. So I will not be learning every single lesson again from scratch because I think that would be a waste. I am mainly doing this to give myself time to get comfortable with games because the cirriculum did not help so much with games and I was advised by @Pacifico to do the bundles and until I feel comfortable then I should begin PTing.
The biggest issue of course is time, meaning I will have 3 months left of PTing and not 4 months. But I feel like if I start now I will jsut waste exams. I believe that I need another month to get better at this test. So is it an issue to do 3 PTs a week from the second half of March to June? I feel like maybe I can start with two for the first couple weeks and then I can get rolling to 3 a week. I honestly just feel like right now going into the exams with a bad foundation for games will only hurt my score. Plus I can review LR lessons for a whole month as well as do 90-95 percent of the game bundles, so isnt it a win/win?
Id rather take 3 PTs a week and feel like I am comfortable to take them, rather than 2 a week and just bomb the game sections.
Hi ya,
I am new here, just signed up and preparing to take the June lsat. I have being seeing posts about BR and was just wondering what it entails.
