Hi everyone, I hope your studying is going well as we get closer to T-Day. I now have 2 weeks free for the sole purpose of LSAT studying, which is great. However, I'm looking now and find myself at a loss as of how to approach things. I already have done 7Sage's curriculum, so I'm guessing I should be in PT/BR only mode now. Should I still stick a 3-per-week test limit or would 5 not be unreasonable right now? Thanks!

Hey everyone,

I've just arrived at PT 66. The extra diagram space has really thrown me off because I was used to the convienence of having my master game board and rules on the same page as the questions. What's the best strategy when turning the page? Re-diagraming rules and master game board or flipping the page back/folding?

....and I'm neither angry nor happy. I got a 153 (159 BR). The reason why I'm not completely angry is because it's actually a 3 point increase from where I was PT'ing prior to enrolling in the 7sage course (I took about 5 PTs after self studying).

I have to find happiness/reasons for celebration in whichever forms they come, no matter how small.

I'm really curious to see if I can increase my score some more. There was definitely some questions on the test that I know I could've gotten correct but my nerves got to me.

All groups now meeting at 7pm ET. Folks with schedule restraints—please just join when you can. You won't miss much. Any serious objections, please PM me. Schedules can be changed but only if you let me know!!

Questions about upcoming weeks' schedules? Look at this. http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/3490/october-15-group-br-calendar-now-available

BR Groups, Week of September 9th: Weds (PT68), Fri (PT69), Sat (PT70)

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Don't let it catch you by surprise. BR with us this week!

Wednesday, September 9th at 7PM ET: PT68

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Friday, September 11th at 7PM ET: PT69

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LSATurday, September 12th at 7PM ET: PT70

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Hey guys,

So I've done 21 PTs now, and the one I just did today I got 161. My goal LSAT score is exactly 160+, and I've been getting that almost every time in the past 10 tests, and high 150s in the ones before that.

I have 5 LSATs left, and I'm wondering what I should do. I have basically reached my goal, and I honestly don't think I can even do any better. Take today for example, I did PT 66, and went -4 in games, -6 on both LRs, and -8 in RC. I literally guessed that those would be the scores as I was taking it, a -8 on RC is fairly good for me, and whenever I get that or under, I almost always do well on the actual PT.

-6 in LRs is another thing I don't think I can improve any further. I haven't done BR yet, but I most likely messed up one easy mark question due to topic context being confusing or mis-read, and the rest 5 were probably 5 star questions that I can't even get right during BR.

-4 in Games is something that I think I can fix, although I'm willing to bet one of those was a substitution and equivalence question that I just circled guessed and moved on. The rest of the wrong ones are from me rushing to get all the games done on time.

So what I'm really asking is what's the best way I can make use of the time I have left. I feel like if I do the remaining 5 PTs, they will be 160s, but is that really helping me for Oct? Maybe I should drill some of my weaknesses like RC and not do more?

Note I print off the entire LSAT over again for BR, and I generally average 167 for it, but regardless my actual PT score has been low 160s for as long as I can remember. Can't seem to get past it. I've heard that there is another transition when everything suddenly starts to click, but I feel like I'm just doing rinse repeat on every lsat.

I just need some guidance.

Does anyone have a preference to either? I have a hard time with translating vertical setups and am far more inclined to diagram horizontally.

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-41-section-3-question-02/

I'm little confused about B.

The stimulus said Samantha likes both oolong and green tea and none of her friends likes both.

Doesn't it mean none of her friends like both oolong and green tea?

Since none of her friends likes oolong and green tea, shouldn't B be Must be false?

How is it possible B is could be true? What am I missing?

And if the stimulus said Samantha likes EITHER oolong OR green tea and none of her friends likes both, can B be Must be false?

Please someone explain me.

Thanks!

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I was hoping to receive some advice regarding law school apps. I was advised to apply to law school through Ontario Law School Application service (OLSAS), but found there are about only 7 law schools here. I was wondering about applying through Lsac. Do I reapply to the same law schools that I applied to through OLSAS, in Lsac? Any one familiar with submitting letters of recommendation through either OLSAS or LSAC? Thank you in advance!

Hi everyone,

Just finished the 7sage instruction curriculum. Now onto PTing: for the Dec exam, my plan was to go PT 36-75 every other day, and review some material on the days in between (or look at stuff like Trainer drills/flaw section). My diagnostic was not very high, 148, but I got a 154 the other day (yay for me...) anyways I was wondering if you guys think I should try to start at the lower pts, (before 36) ? I know JY says they're not really a good representation of the current exam but maybe it could help if I start a little lower and did a PT every day? What do you guys think? I'd appreciate the advice. And thanks everyone for the advice you've given so far. As you can tell I'm kind of an LSAT noob.

Very possibly a stupid question, but I notice all the logic games have tags under them to help you identify the game. Does that mean we can search for the games using these tags? I've printed copies of many games but don't remember where they come from, so searching for each game using the tags would be very helpful. I thought the search bar under the course syllabus might be for this, but that didn't work for me.

I started with a very low initial LSAT score 4 years ago (131). I studied it on and off for a few years but never took it seriously, it was just a side interest until about this year february. During those 4 years despite doing very little work I manage to raise my score to a low 150. Then I had a pretty good job but I now am taking a formal course in person in addition to 7sage. When I started my in person course in June I got a diagnostic and scored a 158 (pt 61), which was the same as my June Lsat Sore. Yesterday I wrote preptest 62 and got a 161, today I wrote pt 63 and got a 154, I found the LG and reading comp way harder on 63. That being said about 2 weeks ago I wrote pt 40 and got a 168. But to be fair, I had literally seen LR/argument on it except maybe 4/5 in the whole section. And I also seen every game in it and done it before plus the reading comps, some of them I kind of remembered too. I didn't really remember much of pt 62 or 63. As in I actually had to go through the process and would debate the answers like a real test.

I'm not trying to brag or anything, but I did score very highly in regular school graduating in the top 5% of my high school and my undergrad program which was a very competitive business program (think Ivy League). Most of my friends from high school and university are either bankers, doctors, lawyers, etc.

At this point I am wondering what I can do to improve my score more. I just found it very weird how it seems everyone else is so easily able to improve their score on the lsat going from 140s and 150s to high 160s, and I have to struggle studying much harder to get a far worse score.

Alot of the LR I get wrong comes from the fact that I don't understand the wording in the answer choice like when they are using double negations. Another set of it can come from when I don't understand the passage although, I am trying to fix that too by not going to the answer choice in practice until I understand the passage. When I do this untimed, I can pretty much get most of the questions, as in over 90% accuracy although some areas are less, just 75-80% maybe. And those wrong ones all have to do with tricky wording, or grammar tricks, or things that seem unclear as in could be argued either way, just depending on what the test writer wanted it to be.

I'm not sure if I should start trying to study logic or reading those weird non-fiction "Women's books" to try to understand the LSAT better. There is something strange that is throwing me off but it is hard for me to put the finger on it. I have a pretty good grasp of the methods to get the right answers.

Hi everyone, I'm hoping someone has some suggestions on the best way to drill/study/practice in order to improve speed. I finally feel really solid in my fundamentals. On my last PT (74), I scored a 168 with a BR of 176, which is typical of my most recent PTs (usually more of 169/BR173). I'm at the point where I'm understanding all the problems and most of my wrong answers are due to rushing/guessing when I'm running out of time, or just generally rushing through the section and making dumb mistakes. On a typical PT, I usually don't get to at least one question at the end of an LR section, and my last RC passage is usually started with only 6 minutes on the clock.

I know my biggest obstacle is time and that this will be fixed with more and more practice. I'm taking in October and have a lot of time (only working part-time) and have a lot of material left that I can use (Cambridge packets, PTs I've never taken, etc.).

Right now, I'm doing 2 recent PTs per week. What should I do as far as practice in addition to this? Should I drill questions in Cambridge packets so I can gain more familiarity and answer questions faster? Should I drill entire sections of old PTs? Should I give myself less than 35 minutes when drilling sections or taking PTs? Any help is so appreciated.

Thanks for any suggestions you may have! :)

I thought B was right during PT, but decided to try negating the answer choices during BR, and got distracted by C.

If you negate C, the gist of it would be that "optimism is NOT better than pessimism," which I think ruins the argument. If optimism is not better than pessimism, then why try to enable young people to believe in a better future? Or is it the "illusory vision" aspect of C that makes this irrelevant?

What am I missing here?

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It took me until the end of section one to realize that Bruce Wayne aka Batman is one of the proctors I'm able to choose.

What are the chances of getting any of the following included on the list??

Louis Armstrong

Barack Obama

Donald Trump

Gilbert Gottfried

Seth Rogan

Madeleine Albright

Clearly, I'm doing really great today.

I'm taking the quizzes in the SA section and one quiz is all biconditional questions and JY says to review the biconditional lesson. Except I have no idea where those are and I have doubled checked to make sure I didn't skip any lessons up til this point. Help!

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-59-section-3-question-24/

Answer is E. What does this even mean? :O

E) "presumes,without providing justification, that 18 century European aesthetics is as encompassing as an aesthetic theory can be"

Hi all,

I started off with PS and left for a variety of reasons, and have just finished the 7sage curriculum (very happy with it). Two questions:

1. does anyone know what I could do with the PS materials? If there were any techniques they found helpful/parts of books they liked?

2. Starting with PT 36 tomorrow, any BR groups I can join? Was planning to take the October, but I think at this rate I'd have to do 2 practice exams a day to get there on time...I had a friend who did that but I'm not sure if it'd be very good for me.

Thanks for the help!

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I have a question on negation. On prep test 58 section 1 question 25. the line Handmade foundations are never found on wigs that do not use human hair. Is diagrammed as HF------>HH. Shouldn't it be ~HF ------> HH. It is group 4. So you pick an idea ~HH, you negate it ~HH --->HH AND MAKe it necessary. The other idea is the sufficient. So how do we end up with HF INSTEAD OF -HF?

Shouldn't it be

~HF ---> HH?

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-58-section-1-question-25/

Hi! This could be a dumb question, sorry if this has an obvious answer.

So I took PT54 today, and according to the score sheet, I got a 157 actual/161 BR. This PT was out of 101 questions. I added up my incorrect answers and got RC -7, LR -15, LG -6 for 73 raw. On the BR, it was RC -5, LR -13, LG -1 for 82 raw. This is assuming that the answers I got correct in actual but wrong in BR still count towards the BR total (is that how it's calculated??). According to the raw conversion chart, shouldn't I be at a 159/165?

Is there a curve for the difficultly of the test that's lowering my score? I'm confused. I didn't see a breakdown for BR so I manually counted.

Thank you for the help!

Hi JY! I don't quite understand this answer choice as I eliminated option A and B as they mention water levels - which aren't specifically addressed by the passage. Could you please help me out with an explanation for this?

Hey Everyone,

I remember someone on TLS who recommended reading Bill Bryson's "A Short History of Nearly Everything" and it was not only fantastic but also helped me get acquainted with different topics in the sciences. Looking for a BOOK suggestion related to humanities/law that I can read in my spare time. Thanks!