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Right now I'm in the process of going through old material to improve my less-than-stellar LR sections.

It's interesting how going through old material can help you pick up on concepts that... you did learn, but never stuck.

For MSS (if anyone is having trouble). What was said was that.. usually... the wrong answer choices will be very conclusive or specific.

Whereas the right answer will be more general.

Example)

What is most strongly supported?

Jane likes pizza. She likes cheese and pepperoni a lot. She does not like peppers.

A) sometimes Jane likes cheese pizza.

B) Jane always buys cheese and pepperoni pizza.

C) Jane never buys pizza with cheese or peppers on it.

D) Jane really likes cheese sticks.

OK. Not the best at making LSAT questions. But, obviously A is correct. Why? Because it's more general. She likes pizza. She likes cheese. So, sometimes, she likes cheese pizza.

The fact that she likes cheese and pepperoni, doesn't mean she ALWAYS buys cheese and pepperoni pizza. That is way too conclusive, and would be hard to find support for.

Usually I go through, now, and cancel answers that include "All" "Always" ect. Which I know was taught to us, but I only picked up on it now.

For Weakening, again, we were taught that we should think three things:

1. Alternative Cause

2. Show a Coincidence

3. Show the reverse

Ok. But it didn't really click until now, and weakening were my WORST questions.

If we look at Q9 of the weakening set:

9. A running track with a hard surface makes for greater running speed than a soft one because even though step length is shorter on a hard surface, the time the runner's foot remains in contact with the running surface is less with a hard surface.

Ok. What's the conclusion: running track with a hard surface makes for greater running.

WHY? Because your foot is in contact with the surface less.

Ok. So then, in reference to above, you just simply ask yourself. What if something, aside from your foot touching the surface, made it better for you to run on the hard surface?

Answer choice C - hard surfaces enhance a runner's speed by making it easier for the runner to maintain posture that minimizes wind resistance.

This answer is another way to explain why the hard surface is great for running faster. Not necessarily your foot being in contact, something else!

I don't know.

These facts just dawned on me. But it makes me feel like I'm moving in the right direction!! I hope this helps other people.

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Hello,

I see that on the study schedule, it has LSAT practice exams set out for 12 hours. I am wondering why it says 12 hours when a real exam is only about 3 hours without writing. Can someone please let me know? Thanks.

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Hi all,

I will be taking the LSAT in London in December. My test will be at 2PM -- not in the morning, as I expected! Rather than being in the morning, the test is calibrated to the morning of EST in the US. (Other tests in the world do not seem to do such a calibration -- so that has me curious as to why London does...)

Suggestions for how to prepare for 2PM?

Suggestions for a routine... morning-wise, food-wise?

For anyone taking PTs around that time -- how do you structure the rest of the day?

Thanks in advance!

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Dear 7sagers,

After months of prep, I still have a recurring problem: making careless errors - mostly in the form of misreading LR stimulus and answer choices.

I noticed that I miss a lot of questions from Q20-25. In most instances, I have 8 to 10 minutes left when I get to Q20, so I don't think timing is the major issue. When I blind review them, I don't find them particularly harder than the Q1-15 group (I find Q15-20 the greatest difficulty).

One thing that I noticed time and time again in doing LR sections on actual prep tests is that whenever I check my watch after I hit Q20, I tend to speed up on the last 5 questions. Subconsciously what I'm doing is that I'm trying to finish the section on time, and that causes me rush.

The rushing leads me to read the stimulus too fast without figuring what exactly is going on (i.e. the argument core) before heading to the answer choices. And we all know that this is a recipe for disaster.

So my question is: How do I avoid making these errors? How do I keep my mind absolutely tranquil under the time pressure? Are there specific exercises that I can do to master the art of meticulousless?

Making dumb mistakes is not only a problem for me on the LSAT, it has also been my Achilles Heel ever since grade school. I don't think I'm naturally attuned to details, as I'm more inclined to look at the bigger picture, which I must work on if I want to be a qualified lawyer.

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Hi 7Sagers,

Someone wrote in to our email asking for law school admission counselling help! We don't have anything like that here just yet, so I figured maybe you guys could help! Here's the message:

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Hello,

Thank you for your prompt reply. I'm a bit familiar with your services the one thing I noticed is that they do not have in them any law school admission counselling help which I need as an international student. I know very little about the procedure even though I am going to a 4 year accredited institution in the United States. I did see something about help with the personal statement which is a big part of the a big part of the application but I do believe that I might need a little more help. What help and advice can you give me?

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Hi, I'm currently studying for the December LSAT and hoping to use that score or if needed February score to apply to law schools for the Fall of 2015. Besides studying for the LSAT I haven't started on the other components of the application-resume, personal statement, etc. Should I go ahead and write the personal statement and other essays for schools now and submit them as I study for the Dec LSAT or should I do those after I take the Dec LSAT? Also, can one personal statement be sent to all the schools I'm applying? I haven't looked at any of the applications and I don't know how many different essays I have to write and was wondering if time would be better spent if I just study for the Dec test or I should get started on other parts of the application.

In addition, when should I choose which law schools to apply? I was hoping to use my Dec LSAT score to determine schools but if I do need to write specific essays schools require it seems I should choose schools before knowing my score...

Thanks in advance.

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Is anyone else balancing applying for law school during this cycle, with studying for the December LSAT? I'm pretty lucky that I got my personal statement and resume done in the weeks after the September LSAT, but now I have to do all the "Why X Law School Essays" and actually submit the damn things. Is anyone applying now and telling the admissions officers to hold off until the December score comes in? Or are you just planning on submitting everything after December 6?

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When I started practicing for the LSAT, I sat at a low 140 ish range. Since 7sage, I have maintained 158 across 3 prep tests now. I have since started reviewing things that I am "bad at" like Logic Game types, specifically the In/Out, and Grouping Sequence types. I have purchased a History magazine and The Economist and I read them on the train to/from work daily, writing comments in the margins about what the main point of each paragraph is. RC and LG are getting a lot better for me, but I am lagging a lot in LR - 17 on my last prep.

I am writing a prep-test tomorrow, and tonight I will be going over weaker LR questions like MBT, MSS, and sufficient assumptions. I have a few more weaker types, but I'm going to start there.

I would idealy not like to put a "cap" on my score, but the law school I'm applying for 160-165 is a good range for me, and I think that's doable.

I study an hour in the morning, work, study an hour over lunch, and study from 5-8 PM when I get home. I write a prep test Monday or Wednesday and one on Saturday.

Does anyone think this is achievable for me? I really thought so, but I keep reading comments..... indicating to some people that they should wait till February if they can't study full time :/

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It seems like it would be very helpful to see the questions that have been removed from scoring so that we can see if we can catch the flaw in the question. Is there any compilation of these questions for us to look at?

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http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-52-section-1-question-19/

I came to realize that my trouble with this question is that I mistakenly assumed a PREMISE (more likely to determine policy by electing officer than through direction vote) was a CONCLUSION.

The conclusion was subtle and obscured - that direct vote was not right way decide matters (electing officers was).

and so answer was E - maximize power of indivudualy to influence decision made because it bolstered premise and in turn conclusion.

Did anyone else make this mistake?

Should I focus even more on IDing Premises vs. Conclusions? I already avg -2 on LR but will focusing on a seemingly basic thing like PvsC help more?

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Hi All -

I have been wondering about this for a while.

Instead of going back and redoing every questions we're unsure of on a PT.... What about just redoing every question we got wrong....

Here's my thinking - when I check scores, I rarely, if ever, remember the letter of the correct answer choice listed. So I can just mark whichever questions I got wrong and go back and redo them the way I would under blind review...

And since a primary objective for BR is to ensure we don't just accept the correct answer and actually learn more by forcing ourselves to find it on our own, wouldn't I be doing the same thing?

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I graduated from college in 2010 and am currently in the application process for law school. I had a 3.7 GPA and am scoring around 165+ on practice LSATs. Anyway, I am not in contact with any of my professors from undergrad. What would you recommend as far as rec letters go - is it good enough to have people who can speak to my intelligence level and go-getter-ness, or is there a more creative solution? The letter writers I'm planning on are the editor of the newspaper where I was a business reporter for 3 years (I now work for my dad's brokerage firm, so I can't get him to write one as my boss), and the executive director of the high school mentoring nonprofit I volunteer with. I feel very confident about those letter being detailed and positive, but am worried about the lack of academic content per se.

Thank you so much for any input/help.

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I am retaking the LSAT in December because I had the craziest physical issues occur the night right before the September LSAT and I nearly felt like I was a zombie in the LSAT. If you are in the Philly area and are willing to meet up in person, or if you would like to study via skype, oovoo, google chat, etc. please let me know. I can't afford much tutoring, and I am considering buying the 7Sage Starter kit, but I am going to review again my LSAT Trainer and go over all 40 PT's I have and do this one last time. There's no turning back and I need a motivational group that can all help each other out! The LSAT is an emotional, psychological, and mental game and we need everyone to be there for one another. If you're interested, please let me know. I would be grateful to have people to study and succeed with. We have a little over a month left so let me know ASAP.

=D

[edit by Student Services: this thread is a duplicate, so it's been closed! reply here: http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/1612/study-groups-in-person-or-skype]

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Been working on June 2007 test at a snail's pace. Primarily because on week nights, I may devote hour and a half or so and Saturday's I haven't been consistent about devoting more than 2-3 hours. So I've been on this test for about 2 weeks now just working one section to the next. I'm in no way even prepared to take a diagnostic yet. Feeling like a slug right now. I did Passage three of section 4 (June 2007 test); it took me 25 minutes to read the passage, take some notes and answer the 8 questions. After 25 minutes, I only got 4 out of 8 correct. RC is kicking my ass. What am I doing wrong, what should I be doing to get my RC scores up and what should I be doing to get faster? Please help.

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Thursday, Oct 23, 2014

Need Advice:

Should I retake the LSAT this December? I scored a 167 in September, which is 4 points below my average. I had to get up during one section and that is the section where 60% of my errors were. I have a 3.91, strong LORs, and work at a big law firm. I am shooting for t14. Any advice is welcomed

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RC is currently my weakest section and I'm looking to change that.

If you are serious about improving your RC score, please message me with:

1. Your availability

2. Your current score breakdown (can be just RC or every section)

3. What strategies you are familiar with (e.g. 7sage, Manhattan, LSAT Trainer)

We would be meeting over Skype/Google Hangout.

Also, as an aside, I'm willing to swap knowledge with someone who is having trouble with LG or LR (in exchange for help with RC) as I am confident in those sections :)

Wish everyone the best of luck!

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I scored a 173 on the September test, and 7Sage had a significant contribution to that happening. I just want to say thanks to the admins at 7Sage, as well as everyone in the community here. I started studying the LSAT last year, and my diagnostic was a 158. While I never actually purchased 7Sage due to my inability to afford it, I've benefited immensely from the free logic games explanations and the community writ large. It's simply amazing that these resources are free, and I truly believe 7Sage's mantra of making law school possible for low income students. You provide a space for individuals like me who otherwise cannot afford the costs of law school admission to even imagine that they could succeed if they work hard. That imagination is so unbelievably important because it mitigates the ideology deterministic poverty that so many individuals face. Thank you for your mere existence. I hope you know how important it is.

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