English is not my first language and I cannot finish all four passages in time; I barely manage to finish 3 passages. Any advice would be great

So I took my first official LSAT yesterday and my gut reaction was that I did pretty well. When I would take practice tests I always felt as though I did worse than I actually did. Has anyone else had a similar experience? and if so how did that reflect in your score? I know this is all complete speculation, and that I might go crazy in the 24 days until scores have to be posted. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Okay so I'm facing a dilema that I feel is a gamble either way. Last year I took the LSAT and didn't do as good as I would of liked, I got a 151 and I was looking to move to California since my parents live there. I also applied to the University of Denver since this is where I live. I did get in with 20,000/yr scholarship. I wasn't sure if I'd be able to move because there was a custody case going on with my son. Yet the decision wasn't made until November. I wanted to wait until court to schedule my LSAT to know if I was taking it in California or Colorado. I messed up and didn't pay enough attention to deadlines and could no long take it in December. Court also didn't go our way so I was unable to move to California. Now I need to go to DU and I just took the LSAT today. DU's priority deadline is March 1st this year. Yet scores come out March 3rd. I'm pretty sure I got somewhere between a 158-161, I kept track of what I think I got right, how many I guessed. Is that jump worth waiting until two days passed the priority deadline to apply?? Or should I use it to try and negotiate more money as long as they do accept me again? Please help!

I have a couple of questions regarding the generic study schedule provided by 7Sage. When I first started the curriculum, it went without a hitch. As I have moved through, I am getting more and more behind. I just arrived at the first block of logic games and fool proofing everything has really bogged me down. I'm understanding the games after going through the method, but it seems to be taking forever. Has anyone else ever bogged down on one section or gotten really behind? If so, how did you deal with it? Did you strive to catch up, move your test up, or what? I have found that it is nearly impossible to carve out the required amount of time to stay up with the schedule. Also, this brings up another question. I know the importance of going in order of the syllabus. However, I've been working LG exclusively for about a week. When things get bogged down, I find myself losing sight of the principles that I learned in previous sections when it had been a while since touching on them. How do others using the site deal with this? Should I be hitting LG, LR, and RC everyday, or a few days between them or what? It is important to note that I am planning on taking the December 2015 test and I've been attempting to study while working 40-50 hours a week. Been at the program since early December. Thanks for any input I might receive.

Anyone else find that doing PTs is a literal pain in the neck? After more than three hours at a desk using my right hand to bubble answers I had the worst neck and shoulder pain. I do a ton of yoga and stretch, and have pretty good posture so I'm wondering, is this avoidable? How are you guys doing these PTs in terms of desk etc..?

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Real Sections

LG:

- Pillows and Mirrors

- Madrid, Paris, and London / Cities

- Volunteers

- Photographs of Authors / Bookstore

RC:

- Shrubs & Bushes

- Urban Smart Growth / Suburban Sprawl

- Employees Rights / Workplace Ethics

- Female Sculptor

LR:

- Moths / Bats / Tweek Tweek Sound

- Physics / Psychology

- Intention Pollution

- Politican

- High Cholesterol

- Vital Interests

- Nests / Fleas

- Broca Area / Bilinguals

- Altruistic Behavior / Monkeys

- Redefining Church

- Bacteria Fungi

- Wolves and Wolf Subspecies

- Machine with blue/green light

- Outdoors vs. Treadmill

- Intentionally creating art

- Electronic toll systems

- Burglars with initials G and S

- Cellphone insurance deductible

- Laughter and social bonding

- Desires and beliefs

- Absinthe

- Neanderthals' food

- Expanding downtown

- Damming a river

- Gala / Music Awards

- Skin Disorder / Cancer

Experimental Sections:

LG:

- Via Numbers

- FGH (Field/Hydro/Geo) / Professors

- 8 Floors a Building

- France, Italy, Switzerland

- Horse Racing

- Cabinets

- Tour of Homes

- Streets Paved

RC:

- Money and Happiness

- Jazz and Latin Music

- Volcanoes

- Problem of Evasion

- Water on Mars

- European politics / Economics

LR:

- Life in the solar system

- First-year business students / Dresses and Rhinestones

[This thread is closed for discussion. Official post Feb. LSAT discussion here: https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/6352/official-feb-lsat-discussion-thread]

anyone have a sample letter of intent / interest for a school that you got waitlisted on and want to really go to? Or maybe recommend what to write ?

I was pretty burnt out by the date of the December exam. I didn't do my best, and now I'm wondering if I should just cancel my registration for tomorrow and do what I'm sure will be a better job in June for the next enrollment cycle, when I'll have my apps in at a better date also. But then, I'm "old" (30+ crowd) and waiting another year seems pretty severe. If I were 25, I'd definitely just retake in June while prepared to the best of my abilities. Or should I just roll the dice tomorrow and hope for a better score, even after a 2 month hiatus? Any advice is appreciated.

The snack discussion made me laugh about my own bag... it was STUFFED! But I was not worried about forgetting anything. It was rather funny seeing how people utilized their bags at the testing center. It seemed most guys had a drink, pencils and a cliff bar (plus wallet and keys) whereas the girls seemed to have much fuller bags.

This was mine....

Contents:

Inhaler (with the large tube) PS they let me keep this on the desk

5 pencils

1 White eraser

Tissues

Pencil Sharpener

Ice Pack

Water Bottle

Starbucks Refresher serving

A hard boiled egg in a little container

A Costco Jiffy snack pack (peanut butter, celery, carrot and apple slices)

A Coconut granola bar

4 energy gummy vitamins

Car Key

ID

LSAT Ticket

I think that was all... haha....

I am currently reading the updated thread by Dillon.. But there seems to be contradictory answers. Was the floors 1-8 (game 4 of the section), the experimental? Thanks.

Okay, I am in need of some advice that might sound strange to some. So, I'm not exactly a small person, in fact I'm six feet eight inches tall so I don't exactly fit into a lot of things very well. Mainly, the desks in a classroom. I find when I do some timed PTs I am slumped way over in my seat, and after about three sections my back starts screaming at me. It got to the point last Friday that I had to stop my test and stand up for a minute to loosen up and stretch. Are there are other 7sagers who have this problem? I am worried because on test day I know I will not be able to pause my exam like a video game. My back really hurts after about two sections and it takes away from my concentration. This is making me feel like an old man at the ripe age of 23. Thoughts?

After a 2 month break (and a more recent week-long trip which was extended thanks to a winter storm), I am fully committing myself to study for the LSAT again. I took the December exam and did absolutely horrible, a score that I'm legitimately embarrassed to reveal, a score that I KNOW is not indicative of what I am capable of scoring. I didn't even bother applying anywhere because what the hell was the point... I basically took a 2 month hiatus from LSAT/TLS/7sage. I actually feel refreshed and looking forward to study for this S.O.B again. The positive thing about already taking it is that I know what DIDN'T work: taking 3 PT's a week, followed by a crappy BR session afterwards... not learning from mistakes on PTs... barely drilling... barely exercising and not relieving stress/anxiety... barely working in order to study (I seriously took 1.5 months off prior to my exam)... not mimicking test-day as well as I thought did... I can go on and on, unfortunately.....

I have 10 fresh PTs (plus whatever most recent PTs are available that I'll purchase which will bring the total to about 14 or 15, right?). I'm really thinking about re-taking in October because I honestly don't feel that June is enough time for ME. I believe that October will allow me to balance LSAT / Life / Small Vacations / Work... June feels rushed to me.

I plan to take a PT every other week in the exact room I took the actual exam, followed by BR and drilling, something I didn't really do despite having the cambridge bundle! I've been going to the gym since Jan 1st (new year, new me watch out watch out haha), gotten into a routine and whatnot. Also plan to work more than I did before (work at my family's business, so hours are lenient which is how I took 1.5 months off as previously mentioned).

How should I go about getting things back into motion, getting the juices flowing?

Do you feel that waiting til October is worse than taking in June?

I'm starting again on Monday the 8th.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-33-section-1-question-22/

Can anyone help me restate option B to better understand what it really says? I can't find anything that helps me understand this question.

I took my first LSAT 2 years ago in June and then again over a year ago in October. I got in the low 150s both times but I didn't put in enough studying that I should have. I've been working a full time bartending job so studying has been hard. I took almost two years off because I ran into some personal issues with the man I was living with. I've been studying full time whenever I'm not working using the ultimate 7sage package. My score has definitely improved. I'm hoping to use my 3rd try in June, but I was wondering since it has been almost two years, will I technically have another try after those two years are up? I'm hoping not to take it again, but I'm also curious if I can use more attempts how bad does that look with law school applications?

Can i keep these in my pocket during exam, or do they have to go into my ziplock bag?

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I am taking the February 6th LSAT (tomorrow) and wanted to hear some input on what the best snacks are for test day. Remember, it has to fit in the 1 gallon ziploc bag along with all of your other items like pencils, erasers, wallet, keys, 20 oz plastic drink, etc. Thanks for your input!

For mastering the logic games, from what I've gathered, it's suggested to do JY's method for each game by watching the videos and repeating the inferences on blank copies until a firm understanding of each game is reached. However, in doing so won't my scores be affected on my PTs leading up to the test because I will have already seen the games and know how to do them? I'm worried that on the one hand this wouldn't give me a good indication of where my score would really be than if I hadn't previously seen the games, but I'm also worried that if I wait to drill on those games until after I've taken the PTs to which they belong I won't have enough time since it will be closer to the test date at that point.

Hypothetically speaking, if I plan to take PTs 41- the most recently available one (giving me 30+ PTs), should I drill those games before taking the PTs or wait until I take them?

What's the suggested practice for approaching this? I'm definitely aiming for a near perfect score on the games section come June and just want to make sure that whatever prep I do is as effective as it can be.

Hey you.

You taking the LSAT tomorrow?

Come back here. You're taking it, aren't you?

Ok. Me too.

How ya feelin'?

I know that feel.

Here's how it's gonna go.

1) LG's gonna throw a thing at you that you're like—wait, what? OH. Please. That's nothing. LOL. Really LG, nice try on that twist there. Nice try.

This is you when LG tries to throw a twist:

2) RC's gonna have some weird subject matter. But we don't change the way we read based on subject matter, do we? No. We don't. We know all RC is the same damn cookie cutter business and that we're always reading for reasoning structure.

We know RC is all like this:

So we are gonna devour RC like this:

We're gonna get about ankle-deep in a couple of time sink questions. WE WILL NOT give in to timesink temptations. We will remember that no one RC question is worth more than a minute of our time.

But we're gonna see that we're in the mud and we're gonna get the hell outta there and skip-skip-skip away. When in doubt ...

3) LR's might feel kinda weird at first. Time warp-y. Trippy. You might feel like a couple of the first few questions are hard (and they might actually be hard questions).

At first with LR you might feel like this:

But then you're gonna summon the Huntress.

Oh shit.

She's HERE.

I think you know what this means for LR. LR's gonna get taken down hard. Like, 25-in-25 hard. Sitting around with nothing to DO for 3 minutes hard.

Once the Huntress is summoned, she is on the hunt. Here is what the Huntress does with her prey.

Are you the Huntress?

I SAID ARE YOU THE HUNTRESS.

YES YOU ARE.

NOW GO CRUSH THIS TEST.

Only kidding. Good luck Tomorrow ladies and gentlemen.

Right after I transfer all the rules into Lawgic I go straight to the first question. My reasoning:

1. I am less likely to make mistakes because my paper is not written on yet.

2. When I split I like to represent my rules on my boards like JY and at times I would forget what the rule was.

3. Doing question one first is my insurance policy. If I take 3 minutes to split my boards and go to question one only to find I misread a rule I wasted all that time splitting on boards that aren't real.

Thoughts?

Okay, so my test center is on a local university campus. I went today to make sure I could find the building and what not. My ticket doesn't say a room number or anything. I may be over thinking this out of nerves.. But will it just be obvious where to go once I am in the building?

Hi 7Sagers!

I am scheduled to take the February administration and have a problem. (Don't we all?) For weeks, I've been hitting my target score range (157-160). However, the last two PT's I've taken (74 & 75) have been downhill for me. 150 & 153. (I haven't changed my diet or exercise routines since I was achieving my desired scores). I'm not sure how to handle this/react to it, as the exam is less than two weeks away and the last thing I want to do is postpone taking the exam since I want to apply for Fall admission.

Thanks everyone!

Question: I'm about to withdraw from the February LSAT so as to take it in June instead, but I just want to make sure that a withdrawal doesn't count as a take! I've already taken it two times and (even though I'm pretty sure it doesn't count) just want to be one the safe side. Also- you just withdraw on the lsac website right?