Speculators... come one come all. What do we think, hope, pray that the curve (170) will be?

For historical purposes... and because I find myself with an abundance of time now that I am done with the beast... here are the last few curves.

PT 68 -11

PT 69 -11

PT 70 -11

PT 71 -13

PT 72 -12

I felt very strong on everything but games ( my trouble spot from the start ) but I feel they were perfectly normal. Nothing crazy as in recent past exams, I just suck at games. That said, I thought the other sections were quite normal too, maybe even a little softer, so I'm going to go with -10 as my guess. That said, I would very much relived if it turns out to be a -12 or -13...who wouldn't?

For perspective, the averages for my 5 most recent, 10 most recent, and 35 most recent PTs, were all within 1 point of each other. My individual scores were all over the board... but my averages for those groups were pretty uniform and if my guess on the curve is right, I'll do about 2 points better than my "average" thanks to strength in my non-LG sections.

Anyone else care to share?

****PLEASE DO NOT TALK ABOUT SPECIFIC QUESTIONS****

just a quick question for you guys. i really appreciate any feedback

i just took the sept lsat, but I am thinking about taking the dec. test as well. I was wondering if i have to cancel my sept score in order to take the dec test. I am nor nervous about, nor will I be disappointed in, my score as I am proud of the preparation that I did for the past few months. that being said, I am trying to be as realistic as possible and believe that test day jitters got the best of me; I do not think that I am going to hit my PT/target score. I literally felt like I could take another test the same day and hit that mark no problem lol.

I would certainly like to see how I did and want to make sure that if I cancel, I wont lose that chance. Also, any opinion you have on taking multiple tests in terms of how that is perceived by admissions offices would be greatly appreciated as well!

thanks in advance for all of the help!

So I know that one of the two logic games sections I did is the experimental section. But here's the rub... I rocked one of the sections and the other one was pretty hard. I counted up the question totals for each of the sections. With the section I did well, the test had 101 questions. For the one I did poorly on, it was 99. Does this matter? I see conflicting things online. Obviously, I will have to wait until the 22nd to see my score, but I'd like to know what to expect if possible....

So, I've been prepping to take the test in December in London (U.K.). I've heard speculation, rumor, whispers of death by way of anxiety, and general worry over whether the U.S. and outside the U.S. LSAT is different. I'd prefer to be prepping towards the correct LSAT and am hoping someone can confirm with some factual information as to whether the tests are actually different (asides from that the U.K. is undisclosed). Please drop your knowledge below.

I just finished my LSAT about 15 minutes ago. I started studying while studying abroad in Japan over a year ago, and let's just say I'm convinced I've seen one of the biggest score leaps since Michael Jordan. I've been grinding through PTs for months now and the past month my range was 167 to as high as 174. I'm not saying I did that well on the real thing - I might not have - but I am saying I wasn't stuck, petrified, or dead at any point during the test. I went from Kaplan to Powerscore to you, and it only clicked after I took this course.

Seriously, thank you.

Question for those of you out there who have experience on these things, or just good advice. I took the October LSAT today in Munich - it went as well as it possibly could have. However: I did significantly worse on the fifth section - the second set of logic games - than I usually do, or than I did on the first section of games. Not sure if it was the experimental section. If not, I would certainly not cancel the score, but I guessed on... 4 or 5 questions at the end of it. Two or three of those were informed, partial eliminations, two or three certainly blind guesses. I got a 165 on the June LSAT, and my last PT was a 174. I am worried that if this was not the experimental section, it will bring my score back down into the 160s - was really hoping to stay over 170. Any sound advice would be much appreciated. That said, the rest of the test went really well, and if even two or three of those guesses worked out, the impact on the score would not be so dramatic. Any thoughts?

Most important: best of luck to you all taking it today and loads of good wishes and sympathy!

oh well.

I have been trying all day to upgrade to a paid package, but every time I try to pay, I am unable to do so. I enter my name and e-mail address and then click on the button that says "Enter Payment Information", then it thinks for a little bit, but then nothing happens. I contacted Stripe Support because when I tried to use my phone to pay, I got an error message after pressing the same button that said I needed to send an e-mail to Stripe Support. So I alerted them to the issue and they wrote back saying that this was an issue with 7Sage and that I should contact you.

I live in Bolivia. Could this be the issue? Are people with IP addresses from outside of the U.S. unable to purchase a 7Sage course? Please respond as soon as possible because I would like to start my course!

I have already taken the June LSAT and I scored below my average. I then continued to study and have used most of the material availiable. I felt great during the test, but is lost my composure during the games and ended up guessing on about 7-8 questions. Pretty ridiculous because I felt great about my test up to that point. And games were usually my strong point. I don't know what happened but I just got stuck and lost track of time. What should I do going forward? I just don't see if I was to try and get ready for a future lsat how I would go about it seeing how I've already used all of the 60-70 PTS and a majority of 40-50s over the last 8 or so months. Just sit back and hope for the best or...? Any help would be appreciated!

Of all the timed PTs I did (ranging from 164-171), the actual LSAT ended up being the worst one!! My brain was just completely paralyzed during BOTH of the LG sections!

I hope none of you messed up like I did. Good luck to you all!

Ok, so...here is the thing. There were four classrooms of testakers at my school. Three of the four had full size tables to work on. One had tiny arm desks. Guess which one I was in. In addition to that a left handed student got to leave my testing room to move to a room with a desk because no left handed desks were available. I don't think it seriously affected my grade, but by the end of each section I was tense, much tenser than I have been at tables while conducting my PTs.

I really hate to complain, but what do y'all think? Should I report this to the LSAC?

So I took the LSAT this past summer for the first time and got a 153. Not where I wanted to be but I am also not looking to go to t14 schools anyway. I knew I could improve so I went to take todays LSAT. I have been practicing and reviewing for awhile and was scoring in the range of 157-159 which is more where I thought I would be maybe low 160's. My worst section by far is RC and it was wrecking my score (would miss around 10-13 every time. So today I go into take the test and during my RC section the instructor told us 5 min early that we only had 5 minutes remaining. I was on my 3 article and rushed through it cause I thought I was short on time. I completely rushed my reading and without really comprehending it I rushed the questions and pretty much guessed. Once those "5 min" were up they announced that they messed up and we actually have 5 min more still left. I was furious and ended up not even trying to go back, them messing up the time really screwed me and my worst section of RC.

So this brings me to really my question. Is the December LSAT too late? I am debating canceling my score which I would believe is around 153-155ish (Think I did good on 2 of the 3 LR and pretty good on LG. MY score could be as high as 156 if the LR I think I did worse on was experimental)and taking the DEC LSAT. I was all prepped to apply to the schools I want, with most applications already done because I heard to apply early as possible. My target schools all have median lsat of around 158-161. I don't know what I should do. I am pissed/ devastated to think this one slip up by a proctor could cost me going to the law school. (I really wanted to go next year with no break between undergrad)

So I am filling out my applications right now and I came across the scary 2 questions:

1)Have you ever been subject to a dismissal, a suspension, probation, an accusation of misconduct, a probable cause hearing, the lowering of a grade, or any other academic or social sanction by a high school, college, university, professional school, or professional association?

and

2)Have you ever, including when you were a juvenile, been formally or informally detained, restrained, cited, summoned into court, taken into custody, arrested, accused, charged, convicted, placed on probation, placed on supervision, or forfeited collateral in connection with any offense against a law or an ordinance?

I am really nervous about these because they sound so serious and I can't 100% say no the them and not sure what to do....here is my situation:

1) In highschool a parent of an athlete from our rival school in the state football championship went on facebook and found 100's of pictures from over 200 students in my class and sent them to the principal in the mail on a disc. The moms goal was to get our football guys suspended before the state championship that weekend. The pictures were of hundreds of kids in different social situations hanging out and in the pictures were either red solo cups, lighters, etc. random stuff. I was in one of the pictures smiling NEXT to a person who was drinking from a red solo cup. The principal called me in and asked if the people in the pic next to me were drinking alcohol, I said to my knowledge there was alcohol there but I was not drinking. Which is true, I am 24 now so I really don't care anyways if I was, but I wasn't. I was very straight edged in high school. Anyways, I got suspended because I admitted to being around alcohol at a school function (it was a picture at a football game).......is this something I have to say? It is kind of odd and random and really stupid.

Also after my second semester of undergrad, I was put on academic probation because I left halfway through the semester for personal and family reasons. I got back in school the next semester and finished my degree all the way through without any breaks.

2) I had 2 underage drinking tickets in the very beginning of my undergrad days. Even though I blew like a .04 both times, because I was under 21 they were still drinking tickets. I wasn't driving, nothing illegal on me, no issues with the cops or anything. Did not even have to go to court, just paid $200 and that was it. I don't even think they are in the Wisconsin records. Do the schools still have a way to look these up if they were never even put into a record? How do people word these things on applications? Don't want to lie or do anything to get in trouble. All minor, minor stuff but it can still look bad I guess. Hate that I have to click "yes" to these questions over such minor things.

Anyone else in the same boat or have any thoughts? Thanks!

So awhile back there was a discussion that had a link to this great law school comparison website on here. I cannot for the life of me remember what the name of the site was. Does anyone else remember this?

Just got done taking the test. This song never seemed so relevant.

Hope everyone is happy with their scores whenever they come in!

Good morning and good luck to everyone! I will be leaving in 1 hour

Is the LSAT administered outside the US (like in the UK) different from the US one?

JY,

Just finished today's LSAT, and left several answers blank..I know that it doesn't hurt me to answer all questions..but I am wondering how the LSAT is scored with blank answers? Is it curved to the answers that I did put in? Will I be penalized for leaving a certain number of questions blank?

Thank you,

John

So I had the tiny desks which aren't even big enough to spread the exam out on. Meanwhile, the other three classrooms at my university had full size desks. I'm not going to file a complaint....just wanted to gripe. There, now I'm done.

I took the June test which was a terrible mistake. I scored a 146 because I was very foolish and studied for 3 weeks. The LSAT is a beast and I had no idea what I was up against. It was a humbling experience to say the least. Anyways, after the test I signed up for the Powerscore class...incredibly expensive...it finished and a few weeks ago I was scoring in the mid 150's. It is ok, I guess. I found 7sage only 3 weeks ago and its amazing how much I have learned in very little time (now scoring high 150's/low 160's). Things are just finally starting to click. Concepts I have been confused on for months with Powerscore. I decided I am going to withdraw from tomorrow's test and take it in December. In the last few days my score has gone up a few points because of 7sage...why not wait 2 more months with the chance for it to go up a few more points, or at least make sure my highest scores now are solid and reliable.

Here is the problem....between the Powerscore course this summer, the 'studying' for June's test and just on my own, I have burned through most of the recent PT's. With all the courses I have paid for I virtually have almost every practice test....but the most recent ones I have already taken. I am not sure how I should continue studying until December. I am using the scheduler on this site and I just want to jump ahead because Im not starting from a fresh place of no studying. I want to keep up with doing a PT once or twice a week but the scheduler doesn't have PT's start for at least a few weeks. Should I just rely on all the PTs from the mid 2000's? Should I wait weeks and just use the few (maybe 2) recent ones I still have left? Should I say screw it and redo tests as if they were new? Really upset I burned through so many.

Any opinions would be really appreciated! Thanks guys!

Please, everyone, be extra careful not to get sick the week before you take your test! Take vitamins, take naps if you need to, and don't stress too much about the test! Also, wash your hands constantly.

Unfortunately, I did all the above, but still got sick :(

Any good recommendations? I'd like some good brain food that'll give me an energy boost but won't risk giving me an upset stomach or bowel issues during the test.

Does anyone have tips for improving my speed in pure sequencing games? I find they always take me so long, I have a hard time figuring out how to create sub-gameboards at the beginning and so I'm just attempting every question through trial and error and it's sooo time consuming! Any advice is much appreciated :)

Hey guys,

Is anyone else experiencing slower load times/unresponsive pages today? I'm sure 7sage is experiencing a greater amount of traffic since its LSAT eve, but I just want to make sure. I've reseted my browser several times and having the same problem accessing the syllabus/videos.

Hi All,

So, having taken and reviewed about 13 Prep Tests, I moved my test date to December instead of this weekend. My score was still not as consistently where I need it to be as I'd like, and I find that this has more to do with the experience of taking the test than it does with understanding the questions. I'd like to reiterate the act of sitting for a timed exam over and over again, essentially to train myself to have the kind of discipline of focus and pacing a standardized test requires.

What I don't want to do is use up all of my "pure" (unseen) exams in doing this over the next few weeks. I think the compromise is to spend the next two weeks retaking the tests I've seen already. There does seem to be value in that, because presumably I should see an improvement in the questions that tripped me up before on those tests, and in that case it would indicate either that my review has been effective or that I still have some work to do on certain kinds of "Flaw" arguments, for instance.

It seems a better option than using up new (unseen, and more recent) tests too quickly. Any thoughts?

Thanks for the feedback!

-C.H.