Is a top notch education worth 220k before interest even accrues?

Thoughts anyone?

for LR /LG and RC. I think I am not doing the BR as thoroughly as it should be done (not taking the time to eliminate all wrong answers etc ) My goal is to reach as close to perfect score in BR. Looking for more ideas on how to get there. Currently my BR strategy is do the test again without time pressure. Which may be fine for LG I think but maybe there are more section specific BR strategies I could use.

Long story short: I took the LSAT 3 times. First time was a cancel>149>153. In all my PT's my range was 160-166, so to say that I am devastated with my score is an understatement. I know I am intelligent and I know that my actual LSAT scores aren't indicative of my abilities. My LSDAS GPA is 3.1 and regular GPA is 3.4 (switched majors from hard science to humanities). I have work experience in the legal field, good LORs, and a solid personal statement. My question is more about which direction to take moving forward. I can:

a) attend a sub-par law school and attempt to transfer to a top 30 after 1L.

b) retake the LSAT in December 2016, improve significantly, apply for 2017 admission.

c) apply for a bunch of reach/safe schools, if I don't get into any school I want, then wait it out a year and take the LSAT in Dec. 2016; reapply.

Any advice/input would be immensely appreciated.

I am trying to plan my schedule for the rest of the month and I want to see how it matches up with the BR group schedule. I know they get posted daily for that night, and Ive seen it early in the week, but is there something that goes out further? Thanks! @DumbHollywoodActor

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Hey Feb Peeps! We got work to do!

Wednesday, Jan. 6th at 8PM ET: PT68

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Friday, Jan. 8th at 8PM ET: Superprep A

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Sunday, Jan. 10th at 8PM ET: PT69

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NOTE: You can get Superprep A here: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0979305063?keywords=LSAT%20Superprep&qid=1451922968&ref_=sr_1_1&sr=8-1

and

here: https://www.cambridgelsat.com/preptests/4-section/#official-lsat-preptest-1-june-1991

NOTE: Great News! Starting now we’ll be using GoToMeeting for all of our BR group needs.

Be sure to click the link of the conversation you’re attending and announce in the comments which group(s) you’re planning on attending.

February Test Takers Schedule: http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/5520/february-test-takers-group-br-schedule-very-tentative

Fine Print (NOTE: you all want to be lawyers; reading fine print is what lawyers do, so READ IT!)

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Febbers! We’re less than 5 weeks away! Come to Group BR tonight!

Wednesday, Jan. 6th at 8PM ET: PT68

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NOTE: Great News! Starting now we’ll be using GoToMeeting for all of our BR group needs.

Be sure to click the link of the conversation you’re attending and announce in the comments that you’re planning on attending.

February Test Takers Schedule: http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/5520/february-test-takers-group-br-schedule-very-tentative

Fine Print (NOTE: you all want to be lawyers; reading fine print is what lawyers do, so READ IT!)

BR GROUP NOTES:

Hey folks!

We're happy to announce that plans are underway to develop 7sage weekly webinars. Now that scores are out, we'd like to take this opportunity to invite passionate LSAT gurus to lead webinars on topics of your choice. Topics can range from specific game or question types to general test-taking strategies to mindset and prep philosophy ... Anything LSAT-related.

If you're interested, go ahead and comment on this thread or send me a private message. No specific minimum LSAT score is required (we'll consider all interested parties!)—just a passion to teach and share the wisdom you've gained on your journey with others. I'll follow up on details individually; there is considerable flexibility in scheduling and no long-term commitment.

Jump in, 7sagers!

anyone have a list of schools that weigh or prefer UGPA more than Lsat? That would be awesome thanks

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-62-section-2-question-11/

When writing out the conditional logic for the reporter, I initially got /C--> /M but when I went back to review I got C---> M. In other words, because of the if I kept cured as the sufficient and then placed medication M as the necessary. But I thought when you have the word not in the sufficient side and the not in the necessary side you can negate the necessary side twice. I guess what I'm confused on is when you have "not" written on the sufficient and necessary conditional. If not is on both sides of the conditional how do you use lawgic?

I hit the 25th percentile of LSAT but am in the 75th percentile of UGPA. What would be an appropriate reach up from my 25th% LSAT to apply? Ex 155 and 3.75. How many points up should I reach for in the 25th % LSAT schools?

What is your time spent on when you study? I ride the train to work (takes about a half hour) each way. I work on practice test questions, but I find myself dozing off, especially after a long day at the office. I also study at lunch (about a half hour) whenever my co-workers are not having lunch with me. Then, when I get home, I am sort of taking care of housework, other homework (master's degree), working on a project or spending time with family.

What is your studying like? How much time do you actually study? Is it reviewing techniques or working on practice questions, timing yourself? With my schedule, I find that I am not able to time myself on a practice test. Or maybe I should, despite the train announcements?

Happy Gray Day ladies and gentlemen. So I got 158, 3 points above my average. Solid 22 points above my diagnostic but 7 points below my goal.

I'll be debating retake right up until our deadline Friday but in the meantime I was still in the midst of PT and BR.

My question to the community is whether or not to start BR on 77 as I didn't bother looking at any of the answers and I want to eat Game 3 alive.

What are everyone's thoughts? I still have all of the 70 tests to take and I just don't know if it will be worth it quite yet.

How do I do BR?

I wrote out my conditional for answer choice E as this:

Independent--> (/TF and EB)

Is that ok?

The video wrote Independent and /TF--> EB.

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-62-section-2-question-19/

so evidently a score in the 71st percentile on the LSAT earns you a score in the 89th percentile on the GMAT (business school admission test). I am an inactive member and am retaking the LSAT down the road. I scored a 157 on the October LSAT (12/16 PTs in low 160s with BR in low 170s) then decided to get a MSF degree and postpone law school. The verbal section of the GMAT is a simplified version of the LSAT with LG replaced by sentence correction. Even though I am not pursuing law school right now I have already reaped benefits. Did you know that you get 2 minutes per question on the GMAT? TWO FREAKING MINUTES!? Imagine what you could do with that time on the LSAT!

Anyways...thank you to 7sage, Pacifico and Nicole Hopkins. It's rather enjoyable to read forum posts here, be reminded of all the fatigue I felt on a daily basis and see how it has positively influenced my life (even if it's outside of law right now).

-Dane

Would anyone be willing to read and provide feedback to my personal statement tonight?

I signed up for 7Sage in July, planning to take the LSAT in October. I quickly realized that there was no way for me to absorb and internalize all the information I needed in time to be ready for that administration, so I postponed until December. I studied nearly every day for the next 5 months, working through the curriculum and a seemingly endless barrage of practice tests. By the time I sat down to take the real thing, I couldn't read a question without hearing JY's voice in my head guiding me to the right answer. I just got my results and I couldn't be happier. I added 12 points to my initial diagnostic and even scored 1 point higher than my best PT!

To those of you slogging through the course, keep at it. This test is brutal. It demands some serious sacrifice and can take a huge psychological toll on you if you let it. But if you stay focused, put in the work, and take advantage of the guidance that is available on this site, that work will absolutely pay off.

And to JY, Jonathan, Dillon, Pacifico, Nicole, and everyone else who has built this community and helped to create an effective, fun environment in which to prepare for the LSAT, THANK YOU! You've helped put me, and many others, in the best possible position as we prepare to take the next step toward a career practicing law.

I KNOW this has to have been answered before, I just can't find any discussions on it. Is there any way to see trends of ALL my pts and not just the last 5 within 7sage?

Does it make sense to apply to a school with your June LSAT score, in the interests of taking advantage of submitting your app early, with the expectation of scoring 5-7 points higher in October (big reach, I know, but hypothetically)?

Alternatively, would it be better to take it first in October, with December as the inevitable back-up, and submit apps in January? The benefit would be a stronger first score, since I know I'd perform better if I took it in October rather than June, but the cost is the submission date. If I were to do this, would it be possible to submit my app after my October score, regardless of what I get, and update the school with December (to mitigate the cost of relatively late submission) or should I wait until after?

Thanks in advance

Not only is this extremely embarrassing but the worst part is that I really felt I had improved. I wouldn't mind if it was a high score but I got a 156 three times. Now I'm worried because this looks worse than if I would have taken it just one or two times. Should I add an addendum to my application? I am a URM and have close to a 3.97 GPA and good softs. However, I realize that does not make up for my lackluster score. Now the admissions committee for each respective school will have a reminder of this 3 times. I've never been good with standardized exams. For undergrad I applied to a full tuition scholarship and due to my SAT score was initially not accepted. However, the program director liked me so much that he saved me a seat and told me to retake the SAT to try to meet the cutoff bar they had set. I retook and met it and was then offered admission. I got the full ride and while in college I was able to graduate with the second highest GPA in that honors/scholarship program. I explain this to highlight the difficulties I have had with standardize exams and at least in undergrad, did not reflect the ability I had to excel . With this in mind, I realize that law schools will most likely see that as an "excuse" as LSAT does offer some fair representation of how I will perform and wanted your opinion on whether or not to add an addendum regarding my LSAT score or just let it be. I'm also not sure whether I should apply for some of the top law schools, now with my last LSAT score. :(

June Test Takers! We’ve got 5 months, so let’s make them count by getting our fundamentals down!

Here’s the schedule this week:

BR GROUPS

Tuesday, Jan. 5th at 8PM ET: PT 35

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LSATurday, Jan. 9th at 8PM ET: PT36

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June BR Group Schedule: http://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/6171/june-test-takers-group-br-schedule-updated

Note: these tests (PTs 29-35) are part of the 7Sage curriculum and, for all intents and purposes, are retakes. That being said, I think it’s a great way to build up our LSAT fluency by taking an actual PT without having to use the modern tests until we absolutely have to. Another way of thinking about this is we are essentially going to do BR groups of the 7Sage curriculum, something I know a lot of students have requested. Some people might disagree with me, but I don’t think it wouldn't be a waste of time or effort for someone who is still working through the curriculum to do this PT, BR it and then meet up for the call.

NOTE: Great News! Starting now, we’ll be using GoToMeeting for all of our BR group needs. (It’s also why we’ve already released the link to the workshop!) More details to come!

HOPE TO SEE YOU THERE!

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All of my pt's were in the 156-160 range/I studied for six months & got my score last night (1st time taking was december) and I got a 148...............

Suggestions for February???

Sincerely,

Plz wake me up from this nightmare

Hey study buddies, post your thoughts about your meetings here! Suggestions welcome!

Here's the general idea guys. You're all studying for this horrendously difficult test. Better to do it with someone else than alone. How? Blind Review your LSAT Prep Tests or Problem Sets with someone else (in person or over Google Hangouts). Try to find someone 1) on your schedule and 2) at your level.

Edit: We now have a Study Buddies app on the dashboard! Check it out here:

http://classic.7sage.com/dashboard/