I've been consistently within the 167-170 range since June. I can't imagine that I've lost any knowledge or skill in the past week, but my scores have dropped. I scored a 164 on PT 70, and a 166 on PT 72. Logically, I think it's the pressure of the impending administration getting to me, but I can't help but think that somehow the other tests were a fluke, or that the PT's in the 70's are harder than those in the late 60's. I know these recent scores are still "good," but I also know they are not my best. My confidence has definitely taken a blow, and I'm not sure what I can do to regain it in the next week. I had PT 71 scheduled for Monday, should I risk taking it and scoring poorly right before the test? Or should I just work on my confidence? I've put more into this test than I thought I ever could, and I'm utterly disappointed that this is happening with 7 days left. If anyone has experienced something similar to this, I would tremendously appreciate your advice. Thanks in advance!
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After a ton of hard work, I'm breaking 170 and want to ensure 170 on test day or do better. I have only 1 new PT left which I'll take before the LSAT next week....
But for the rest of my time I'm debating whether to redo some old PTS (there were some recent ones I did before deciding not to take the December LSAT last year) or just watching videos from 7Sage that I haven't done yet.
I've taken other courses before so I only used about 1/4 of the 7sage course videos to help in Key Areas. But I do like the 7Sage method overall and I wonder if it's better to use the rest of the course material (and practice) to really refine my approach.
So redo a couple old recent PTs or more 7Sage videos and practice? Thoughts?
Hello J.Y. and 7Sagers!
I love 7Sage and would like to suggest some improvements to the site.
1. Include an Up&Down voting mechanism for lesson comments a la Reddit
2. Include a delete function for lesson comments (if it is there, I cannot find it)
3. Create an additional sub-forum under "For 7Sagers only" to house meta-discussion such as suggestions
4. Create a lesson or permanent forum post that contains all of the skills, knowledge, and other attributes common among high-scoring students. I know there are several of these hidden throughout the curriculum but I don't think they exist in aggregate.
http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-72-section-3-question-11/
Hi folks, I can't for the life of me figure out why the correct answer for question 11 in sec. 3 of the June 2014 test is choice A. (This is the question regarding citizen opposition to a new hiking trail on the grounds that users will litter.) Aren't both C and D better choices?
My thanks to anyone who has any idea!
Hello! I signed up for the maximum content course and I'm wondering how I can gain access to the explanations for all logical reasoning questions... if that exists. I can only find explanations for logic games at this time. Can anyone help navigate the site to locate this information? Thank you!!
Have you guys heard the Planet Money podcast about hunting for the hundred dollar bills? Apparently, 80% of cash is in the form of $100 dollar bills but when's the last time you saw a Benjamin Franklin? The fact is we don't know where most of the $100s are.
Why is that? And just how many $100s are floating around out in the world? Well, that's exactly what the Federal Reserve wanted to know. They begin with a hypothesis that the $100s are "hiding". They guessed that the $100s are used as long term stores of sketchy wealth, stored in vaults and in between pages of books, by international drug dealers and their ilk.
Working off that hypothesis, they concocted a way to "count" how many $100s are out in the world.
They borrowed a clever technique from fish biologists that wanted to count fish in a lake. Like $100s, fish hide too. What you do is you catch say 100 fish, you tag them and you set them back into the lake. Later, you pull up another 100 fish, randomly. You check to see how many of the fish are tagged. If all 100 are tagged, then there's probably only 100 fish in the lake. But, if only 50 are tagged, then there's probably 200 fish in the lake.
The Federal Reserve used the same trick. They tagged $100s and tossed them into the world's lake of $100s. They waited, they resampled, and they got their "answer".
Regardless of the results, my question concerns their technique. What you do think about their technique? Would it yield accurate results? Would it over or under count?
Source:
http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2014/08/13/339827662/episode-560-hunting-for-the-hundreds
5:48 is where they talk about the fish biologists sampling technique
I took the LSAT in June, and got a 166, which was at the lower end of my average and (I think) worse than I was capable of because I got thrown off (I had to pee like a racehorse through the first part of the test before the break). I'm taking it again Saturday, but my biggest issue is, because I took most of the most recent practice tests in June, the only recent practice test I have that I haven't done is PT 71. So lately I've been working on some older ones, which I know are easier (as evidenced by my score going way up),and I still have practice tests 54-61, and practice test 71 (which I'm saving for the last one I do before the real thing.) I know I can just go over the newer ones I've already done, or even erase all my pencil marks thoroughly and retake them, but I was really hoping to take some live, timed PTs for the first time that resemble what I likely face Saturday. Does anybody know if any of PTs 54-61 are especially worth trying, in terms of how they resemble recent trends?
I went through 4-9 Forms today and I feel overwhelmed.
How did you guys remember all these? Do I just need to watch the Invalid Argument Forms videos to understand? Mind blown.
I joined 7Sage 10 days ago and am planning on taking the LSAT in Dec. Beginning to feel overwhelmed with the schedule. I am aiming to take ~29 PT before that. Is my goal too ambitious? I am not working and am studying full time. I feel like I'm getting bogged down trying to complete all the relevant problems. Maybe it will be best to push test back to February, in order to build a solid foundation...Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated!
Hi Everyone,
I just came across a free online MOOC from Stanford University called LPL language, Proof and Logic. I think I may be helpful to everyone and didn't want to keep it to myself! There is still time to join - but there is low stress with MOOCs, since you don't have to take it for a grade, etc....
Try to locate it at www.edx.org. You'll be directed to the Stanford MOOC site.
Best of Luck everyone!
http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-71-section-3-question-18/
I thought the answer might be D for a very different reason.... the circumstances are specifically described as being about people who don't already own the item, but the survey is about people who do own the item. ie... if you don't already own a GPS system in your car, don't buy one because most cell phones have them - and of course most people who already own a GPS system in their car will like it.... but, again, it's not worth buying because you likely already have a cell phone with GPS.....In sum, I can see that being the reasoning behind D, with the sample being the survey as a whole --- and the group actually referring to people that don't own these things already.
But I have difficulty seeing the explanation JY gave... we're often given survey results - and in surveys there usually is a discrepancy between people who respond and people who don't.... why are we splitting hairs over it here? ie 55 percent of respondents prefer candidate X.... In an LSAT question we normally wouldn't dismiss the result simply because MAYBE there's a discrepancy between respondents and non-respondents... I think LSAC would give us a differently worded question or maybe we'd have to guess the Nec. Assum. But respondent deviation seems way too subtle - even for LSAC - to be the reasoning behind choice D.
Thoughts?
Hey everyone. I was just wondering if you had any advice re: the recentness of prep tests. I have done a fair amount of them, but none more recent than prep test 58. Is it necessary to do the absolute most recent ones or are the older ones sufficiently similar to what I can expect to see next week?
I took a Testmasters in class course last year and really did like it because of the structure. I scored a 160 on the June 2013 LSAT, 4-5 points below my average but am now looking to really make some gains. The course very was linear and I knew once I had finished the curriculum I would be prepared to take PT's. I am having a really hard time with getting into the groove for this online specific course. I consider myself very disciplined but it seems mentally intimidating for me that I am my own teacher with this style of course and I am really having a hard time getting comfortable with it. I go through the lessons but when it comes time for me to do a problem set, I feel like I have gained nothing from the lesson itself and am rather just doing the problem sets the way I had done them previously. Can anyone share their tips on how they really began to lock in to this type of learning or is struggling with this format normal for a lot of people at first?
As I've been taking practice tests, I've come across several LG rules that use "neither...nor" language as a conditional. For example: if X then neither Y nor Z. Should this be translated as "Y and Z" or "Y or Z". From my understanding, AND means both, and OR means one or the other or both. Can someone help me with this distinction?
Struggling.
I’m writing the exam in December.
I am getting through the material mostly ahead of schedule, but I’m not grasping some of the concepts. I think that being “less than perfect” the first time doing this is stressing me out.
Is it beneficial to not move ahead to next week’s lesson, print off the problem sets for each section, and re-do them. To give me a review of the past concepts (strengthening, weakening, MSS, ect), and to see if I’ve some-what improved a bit?
Then next week I can start on my lesson plans again.
Hey, hello guys. You may have read my post in the December 2014 discussion. But I'm looking for a good study buddy. I'm in the Tampa/ St. Pete area. I'm willing to cover those to cities. Prep'ing for the 2015 Feb. test.
Email me here or at allworld13@gmail.com
Thanx
Hi, I know I am fortunate to have this problem, but I consistently find myself with roughly 7 minutes left to twiddle my thumbs on RC sections and am generally missing 0 or 1 questions. Nevertheless, I want to use those 7 minutes effectively to ensure I'm maximizing my score. What approach should I be taking with that time? BR?
Hey, hello guys. I'm new to this thing, but not new to LOGIC. Are there any places in which I can go and meet people in hopes of finding a good study buddy? I'm in the Tampa/ St. Pete area. I'm willing to cover those to cities.
allworld13@gmail.com
So my dog died yesterday. I know. She has terrible timing. Every drill I've done in the last 24 hours, I totally lose focus and wander off. I can't seem to think of any method other than to say "just focus" to myself. This method is obviously not great. I know I'm not the only one who has had distractions to manage. If anyone can share ways they combatted distractions or a wandering mind, any strategy to keep you on track, I would greatly appreciate it !
Hi Everyone,
I hope your LSAT studies are going well. I had three or four great tests in a row with time left over at the end of most sections. Now, I just feel tired all the time, have headaches, and always run out of time on each section no matter how fast I feel I am reading...I also have scores ten points below where I was at. Has anyone else been through this? Am I just burned out and need to step away? There's only a little more than a week before the test....HELP!
Thank you!
When I blind review an LR section, I usually end up getting 3-4 answers more correctly than when I do an LR section timed and this has been the case for the last month lol.. Just wondering if anyone has helpful tips or insight on how to lessen the difference between the two scores?
Hey everyone,
So like some others here on the forums, I am scheduled to write the LSAT September 27th. I had a plan for this week and next to write PT's 67-72. So far this week I have been successful, I have done 5 part PT's at the exact same time I will write the LSAT and using the proctor app. I was planning to get at least 2 PT's in next week (final week). However, I got accepted into the MBA program, so I will now have class next week from 9am-5pm. Thus, I lost the luxury of having a wide open schedule to match the LSAT conditions. Furthermore, I don't know that I will have enough time to hammer out the last 5 tests I have within the next 9 days, at least not while giving each test a thorough review afterwards.
So I am looking for some suggestions, should I peel back the number of tests I take? Should I do as many as I can, including deep review, but rather than go sequentially, maybe work backwards that way I can get the most recent tests in indefinitely? Since I won't have the whole day to study anymore, should I write full tests at night or just do individual sections? Would it be more beneficial to take say PT 70-72 under real conditions, and use PT 68&69 as timed individual sections (which will be more realistic to do given I only have the evenings).
I don't know I got caught off guard with the MBA offer and now my whole plan kind of got messed up and am looking for some advice, any help is appreciated.
Thanks,
Christian
But if you haven't seen this, it's smile-worthy.
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jameskicksa/35-signs-you-are-studying-for-the-lsat-b2tp
I have read the Reading Comprehension bible, LSAT Trainer, and Voyager's guide on TLS.com. I still can't improve on reading comprehension. I keep missing 8-10 questions every time. With just a couple of days I am freaking out. I wanted to take the September LSAT but this is the only thing scaring me for the test and I really do not want to take the December LSAT. Are there any other tips that you all have. Maybe I am just not cut out to do well in Reading Comp.
Hey there!
This is my first post so I apologize if I'm breaking any rules. I'm looking for a study buddy in Charleston, SC. I would prefer someone pretty serious about tackling this test. I'm free every night and most afternoons. I'm planning on taking the February test as I don't think I'll be ready for the December one.
PM me!
-Sara