So, I am finally finished with the 7sage course, this is when things start to get interesting. I would like to know what you guys recommend I should do. Should I do a PT or two first and drill based on the scores of the PT's? or, should I drill a bit first and then take the PT's? I also want to mention that I have little practice with time. As I was working through the course I just kept track of time on a stopwatch, but essentially gave myself unlimited time to work on accuracy, and understanding.

Alright, so I love 7sage and I truly think it has helped me in areas where my previous study program did not. I have been preptesting up to PT 45. However, I am approaching a set of tests that I already covered before. I have done PT 52-64, and I am pretty worried about inflated scores. Any advice on how to PT from this point on? I plan to test in October.

Also, I want to ramp up my actual score. I keep scoring in the 150's but I have BR'ed at 168. I know it can be a stretch but my goal is to score in the 170's. Does anyone have any advice on how to improve their actual score? I have been having a lot of confidence fails during the test because I completely miss problems (I don't even circle them). I am afraid that I cannot even identify the feeling that something is wrong.

Last thing: where do you guys recommend getting the LSAT trainer?

I cannot find them on amazon. Is my only option to buy them 1 at a time from LSAC?

Hey guys, I am trying to compile a list of all the "basics" I need to memorize. For example, Succ/Necc/NegSuf/NegNec/... the different flaws, specific rules, all the way question types can be asked... to study when I am on the road or can't really sit and focus on doing individual question types. I want to learn all them by heart and need some help to create a master list! I will also share, of course. Thanks!

So, I have been wondering about this for sometime now. Is it really THAT important to graduate from a T25 Law School vs. graduating from an ABA accredited law school ranked in the top 50? Do you think it is that much harder to get a job, and that much harder to make a six figure salary? I had a Prof who graduated from temple law, and she was the corporate council of my town, and we were talking and she was explaining to me how she had Harvard, NYU, and Columbia graduates working for her, and she said all they knew how to do was read, and write, hardly ever able to speak in public, I mean she said they were smart, but that's as far as it went. What are your opinions on this?

BTW no I am not in it for the money, however I do not want to graduate with 250K of debt, and then work making 50K a year.

For practical purposes can some and many be treated the same way for LR sufficient assumption questions?

I was struggling to answer the questions within the allotted time on LC. However, I am now at a point where I am able to answer 20 of the 25. The issue is that I guess on the last five, but seem to have lost accuracy. It's not that I have gotten any worse, it's just that I thought by answering more questions that would improve my score. It has either dropped or staying the same. Is this the correct approach?

Hi everyone, I am pretty much ALWAYS getting either the 2nd or 3rd question wrong in logic games. I know why, because by the 2nd/3rd I haven't completely mastered the rules but by the last few I understand them 100%. Any advice on how to master the moment I diagram them?

In the lessons that cover conditional reasoning (existential/universal quantifiers), I get almost every single practice problem correct...however, when going through actual LSAT problems, I can't seem to translate what the stimulus is saying into Lawgic. I feel that if I can only nail down this one specific problem-area down, I can answer more questions correctly... help?

I mean can you actually deteriorate in your ability to take LSAT as you study more? I've recently started taking PTs in the 50s after finishing the ones in 30s/40s - only to realize that both my actual and BR scores are dropping each PT (from mid 160s to currently high 150s actual). I've taken about 17 PTs and this is really discouraging. I can't believe my BR score is dropping too below 170s now. Are PTs in the 50s harder than the previous ones? Or am I just losing my fundamentals as time progresses... Or this is just a burnout? It's really frustrating to see that I'm doing worse each time - I feel like maybe this test is not for me (I know some of you will hate me for saying this). :(

Hi,

For the second time in a row now I've BR'd 180 (missed one, still 180...) and have timed scores of 165 and 163. In other words, I can figure out the right answers... I just can't do it in nearly enough time. Leaving 4 or 5 bubbles blank per section is pretty disastrous to one's score but I've been going for accuracy over speed. Will the speed eventually come? I've only done 5 prep tests so far. I'm starting to worry though because it "feels" like I'm maxing out my possible pace.

Thanks much.

I bought my copy of The LSAT Trainer this weekend and am looking for the most effective way to use it along with 7Sage. For those of you who have used both, did you complete one before moving on to the other, work through the individual sections in both concurrently, or use some other strategy? I'm currently about halfway through the first RC section on here and I don't want to lose the momentum I've built over the last few weeks, but I'm also aiming for the December test and having to complete another curriculum after I finish this one will seriously cut into the time I have to get through all the practice tests. Thanks in advance for your help!!

Last week I had increased my PT score by 7 points, but the one I took after that was 5 points lower. Has anyone had a fluctuation like this before, or do most people just consistently improve? Any advice/comment would help on how people generally improve from PT to PT

Hey Everyone,

Began studying for the LSAT March 1st 2015. Did the bibles and numerous PTs (about 17) in anticipation of the June 2015 test. My cold diagnostic was 148 but I was consistently PTing 158-162 (Most of PTs 19-28 and 62-71) when I decided to postpone until October. At that point, I studied much less from mid-May through mid-July because I had a solid grasp on fundamentals but knew it was important to save the later preptests that I accidentally burned so early.

Then I found 7sage.. This program has been awesome at renewing my confidence and giving me the tools to attack this test. The straightforward way that JY teaches is superior to powerscore. I'm 45% through the core curriculum and cruising (I study about 3 hours most days). I'm hoping to be done with it in mid-August and move on to taking 4 PTs per week right up until the test.

Do people think I have enough time to max out my score? My benchmark minimum is 166, but the ultimate goal is a 170. I'm prepared to go all in for October, but if it's not worth it I'll restructure and go December...although I may not have the luxury of a retake at that point.

Thanks for any and all feedback!

What was/is the question type(s) that you struggle with? How did you get over your struggle? What word of advice can you give to someone struggling with the question type?

Not sure if such a post was already attempted before, but I think this would be a good thread to start to get different question types perspectives, and ways to get over the difficulty of a question type.

So, let me begin. The most difficult question type for me are assumption questions. I did not really get over my struggle yet with NA but with SA I got over my struggle by first mapping out the conditionals, and with that practice I just began to see what needed to be linked up for a valid argument. My advice would be practice with a purpose, and understand what you are doing wrong, and why you are not getting to the right answer. Look for what terms need to be connected to make the valid argument, and understand which is the premise and the conclusion.

I currently suck at this question type. I mean I do not have a clue on what I am doing even when applying the negation test. what is a good strategy to get over these woes?

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-20-section-4-question-20/

Can anyone summarize the flaw? I'm confused.

So I am in the section of the curriculum where I am doing Logic Games, and I wanted to get your opinions on my strategy of tackling the practice problems. What I have been doing is doing the games on my own no matter how long they take until I figured out every inference on my own, sometimes it takes really long, sometimes I get the inferences in seconds. I do not watch JY's explanation until I am done with the game. Is this what I should be doing to get better at inferences, or is it better to just watch the game explanation if I am unable to make the inference?

Someone please help, I still do not know how to do these question types. I have reviewed the curriculum many times, but it is still not sticking.

Any suggestions?

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-18-section-2-question-22/

Hi there, I found the correct answer choice makes sense. But I chose A when I first do this question. I think A also explain the conflict by point out the possibility that: maybe because generally people don't know the fact that the mistaken scientific finding is mistaken; therefore, nowadays scientists study them and make more people know about the the inaccuracy of the earlier flawed research." (I know it sounds weird when you read this, but it comes out naturally to me when I encounter this question at first time). Answer D seems also problematic to me. Would it be valuable for nowadays scientists to study earlier but mistaken research just because they want to be more familiar to the older research. Maybe they are interested in scientific history, because the word "valuable" is really vague here, different people may have different standard of "valuable".

I notice that I made some assumption unconsciously, but I do not know what are those assumptions. I would really appreciate your help.

So I'm two months into studying for the Oct. LSAT and am working on improving my accuracy regarding necessary assumption questions. I encountered 2 problems from practice tests (PT 56 Section 3 # 18 "Fund-raiser" and PT 3 Section 2 #3 "In Europe school children devote") that require you to find a nec. assumption.

For #3 from PT 3 section 2, I was between answer choice A and the correct answer, D. I chose D because it would destroy the argument if negated, but I couldn't eliminate A (All children can be made physically fit by daily calisthenics). I looked on LSAT forums online and one reason cited as to why the A was incorrect was that the answer choice makes daily calisthenics sufficient and not necessary (which contradicts the conclusion that states that calisthenics is necessary for physical fitness).

However, I diagrammed answer choice A as All children can be made physically fit---> by daily calisthenics

According to the forums online and speaking to other students, my diagram above is wrong. My question is why is it wrong and how would I diagram this answer choice. Does "by" indicate the sufficient condition and I'm just unaware of this or is there another method as to how we can diagram conditionals without indicator words like (if or without)?

Hello everyone!

First time poster, long time lurker.

I'm looking to get some advice on what would be my best study option leading up to the October LSAT. My PT scores seem to have hit a plateau around 158-160 right now. My latest BR score was 173, so I realize that there is room for PLENTY of improvement in both PT and BR. Anyway, I've started to obsess over this stupid test and have no problem with retaking in December if I can't reach my goal of 170 by October. With that said, what study method do you all recommend for maximizing my score for October and leading into December? I know more PT/BR will help but should I be focusing more time on fundamentals/specific question types?

Thanks!

Hope you're all having a lovely HUMP DAAAY.

PT61 BR Tonight at 8pm ET

Ok, ok, ok. we've had 2 people so far say they can't make 7pm ET like we'd planned. SO. We're doing 8pm ET for tonight. Let's just all calm down and play it by ear. Oh BTW, we're 52 days from October 3rd. Freaked out yet ???!?

Nah, bro. Join us for soothing rhythms and transcendent insights on tonight's BR call.

Note on all groups

Who here has developed a system for skipping questions? What type of criterion does it/must it fulfill for you to justify a skip? Any and all insights will be illuminating! :)

http://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-41-section-1-question-07/

Can someone explain to me how they arrived at the correct answer using their process?