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LSAT Party time, that is!

LSATurday, Jan. 2nd at 8PM ET: PT67

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  • For everyone: take the PT under timed conditions; BR as you are able; join us for all or part of the call—everyone is welcome.
  • Note: For the purposes of the call, we like to check our group blind review score together at the very end of the call :) So at least don't say ... "No guys, really, it's D, I checked it.” Win the argument with your reasoning.
  • These groups work best when folks from ALL stages of prep and with all different goals join in! Not just for "super-preppers" and definitely not just for the casual LSATer (does such a person exist?).
  • The only expectation anyone has for these calls is for you to have fun and ask questions as you desire. We are just a bunch of LSAT lovers who gather via Skype GoToMeeting and intellectually slaughter each test.
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    I am putting together my law school application and I was wondering if anyone knows of a good quality CV editor. I have a great deal of professional experience as well as extracurricular activities and I just want it to be streamlined for a law application.

    Any recommendations would be fantastic!

    Thanks!

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    Hey guys thought we could start a list of different/unique ways we've seen this common flaw described in the answer choices. These flaws are so easy to spot sometimes the challenge is wading through how the answer choice obscurely describes them. One that I came across for the first time was the following:

    the conditional statement was

    A-->B

    B

    therefore A

    the correct answer choice was worded: fails to consider that there are conditions necessary for A in addition to the presence of B

    If you guys have any others, please share!

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    I'm familiar with the format and question types on the test, but I'm basically new. I studied for a bit last summer on the LSAT trainer but that didn't go well. Anyways, I have the summer to prepare for it this time and am planning to write the Sept test. How do I start? I'm not sure which plan to purchase on 7Sage, and considering how new I am I'm also thinking of getting the PS Bibles. Also getting the practice test books. Any advice helps!

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    Hi!

    I'm in Anchorage and looking for motivated people to study/discuss LSAT stuff. I'm taking the November 2018 test.

    Please let me know if you're interested! If you're in Fairbanks or Southeast or somewhere else, let's make it a Skype thing so we can include people from all over the state :)

    Thanks,

    Kirsten

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    I'm currently in NYC (LES), just graduated, and determined to devote my entire summer to studying for the LSATs so I can take the upcoming September 2017 LSAT. I think it would be mutually helpful to BR with someone else!

    I have a schedule set up to take every preptest between 36-80. I'm also in the September 2017 study group on Sundays at 7PM. I made my schedule to cater around that one. Please let me know if you're interested!

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    7S

    Monday, Jul 7, 2025

    7Sage

    Official

    LSAT Podcast: LR by the Numbers

    Listen and subscribe:

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    In this episode, Nicole and ZeSean take a look at a breakdown of each LR question type's frequency in a given section, providing insights on the ways this information might impact the way you study for the LSAT. Join us this week for a fun episode looking at the numbers!

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    Proctors: Quiet and helpful. Allowed about 10 people in a row to go to the bathroom at the end of the writing section.

    Facilities: Comfortable, fairly new building, well heated (during winter).

    What kind of room: ~40 person classroom

    How many in the room: ~35

    Desks: Small, fold up lecture-style desks. They held the booklet, but not the answer sheet

    Left-handed accommodation: Unsure

    Noise levels: Quiet throughout

    Parking: Parking garage is next door to the building. I believe it was $15 for the entire test center. You can pay using the Parkmobile app.

    Time elapsed from arrival to test: 30 minutes

    Irregularities or mishaps: None

    Other comments:

    Would you take the test here again? Yes, but would have preferred a DC area center with full desks.

    Date[s] of Exam[s]: Dec. 2015

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    Hi,

    I'm having a lot of trouble eliminating D on this question, and would love some help if possible! My reasoning:

    D) Was the species to which the recently discovered [earlier] dinosaur [X] belonged related to T. rex?

    If yes, and T. rex descended from X, this seems to strengthen the author's argument as it suggests that the T. rex features evolved in an earlier ancestor that evidently did not require them for its size. In this scenario the features would have just been passed down to the T. rex, offering an alternate explanation to the scientists' hypothesis and strengthening the author's argument.

    If no, and the T. rex and X were unrelated, I feel like this would weaken the author's argument as it would make it difficult to compare the two dinosaurs. Even if X did not evolve these features to support its size, T. rex still may have and it's just a coincidence that they are similar. This would leave us back where we started as the author's evidence for calling the scientists' hypothesis into question is now irrelevant.

    Any help clearing this up would be greatly appreciated, I've spent way too long on this question :P

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    I am having a hard time spotting the right answer for NA questions. Can someone provide a way of attacking the answer choices? I always negate the answer choice to see if it destroys the argument, but I don't think I am doing it right. I keep falling for a trick answer choice. #HELP

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    Is it recommended to do the: 1) Introduction to Logic (8.2h), and 2) Advanced Logic (2.1h) sections of the Syllabus BEFORE jumping into the Intro to Logic Games & Sequencing and the rest of the LG topics?

    I signed up for 7sage's LSAT starter with the intent of studying Logic Games (LG). I'm primarily using the LSAT Trainer's program and have found it tremendously helpful for the RC and LR sections. I want to ensure that I remain efficient and effective in how I train, all while simultaneously seeking ways to be multiplicative in the different LSAT topics I study. (I hope I am making sense)

    **(Disclaimer: I started studying for the LSAT on June 6th, 2018 with the LSAT Trainer and completed the first 18 Lessons. I had some life challenges that took me away from studying. I resumed LSAT preparation with the LSAT Trainer on October 6th, 2018 but decided to start from Lesson 1. I'm about a quarter of the way through the entire book.

    I've taken off the next five weeks from work to train up for the Nov LSAT to give myself the most time.

    I look forward to the perspectives on this forum.

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    I normally score pretty well on my lsat, however like a lot of people I did horribly on the lg. my question is if I score for the sake of arguing that I score 146 , but in December I score 166, what are my chances of getting into a good school?

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    Long time user of 7Sage here. I've studied for the LSAT for a while now and I scored a 170 on test day and I'm planning to retaking for a high 170s score. My PTs have ranged from 169-178, but I am still quite inconsistent within this range.

    I've been considering going through the Core Curriculum. I've watched a few videos before but have never actually sat down to go through the whole thing. I'm now considering going through the CC because I have decided to apply not this upcoming cycle, but the following one, and so I do have more time to study. I'd like to improve in all 3 sections but my current weaknesses are:

    Formal Logic (not including conditional logic, but just operating the Most/Some statements and those questions).

    Weird games (pattern games, mapping games, circular games in PowerScore language. Think Employee Workpiece game or Virus game).

    Rule substitution questions.

    Science passages in RC.

    Curve-breaker RC/LR questions.

    Consistency in all 3 sections (to go from -2 to -3 to -0 to -1 consistency.

    I'd say that I'm strong at LG (able to go -0 to -3) but I'm also seeking more consistency. Would you say that the LG portion of the Core Curriculum is worth going through if one has already done all the games there and even watched most the explanation videos for those particular games? Is there anything different between the explanations for LG within the CC vs. the explanation videos for the games taught in the CC (found under Problem Sets > Explanation Videos)? I've heard rave reviews about the LG portion of the CC specifically from quite a few people, so I'm wondering if it's worth going through or whether it's more for someone who's still making a ton of mistakes?

    I don't think it's really necessary for me to go through the CC, but I do think that it might help solidify my knowledge and cover any remaining weaknesses I have.

    How long did it take you to go through the entire CC (not counting doing the actual PTs included in there)?

    I was thinking that I would skip some of the LR/RC Problem Sets because I've developed my own system of allocation for the PTs and I don't have that many fresh PTs left, so I want to be careful not to use up any fresh PTs/sections. How long would just watching the video lessons take (not including the problem sets)?

    I would also love any advice about how you went about going through the CC/what to skip/what's important. Did you take a lot of notes? Did any of you high scorers (170+) do something similar where, for a retake, you went back to the fundamentals? Did it pay off to do so?

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    Let me preface this by saying I know I should be using official questions, but I bought this book in a rush for a trip where I wouldn't have great internet (powerscore books haven't arrived yet). My thoughts on the question at the bottom so as to not influence anyone before reading.

    Despite five consecutive years in which global consumption of grain has been greater than global production, it is unlikely that the world is facing a near-term crisis in the food supply. The average shortfalls have been mainly due to reduced output from farms in China, which is moving from a policy of central control over agricultural production to a more market-driven model. Therefore, if demand for grain continues to fall short of supply, Chinese production of grain should increase dramatically. Which one of the following principles most helps to justify this reasoning?

    A. Global markets respond more slowly than regional markets, so local rates of production usually change more rapidly than the global average.

    B. When agricultural production is centrally controlled, it is unable to respond to changing demand by adjusting rates of supply.

    C. Average shortfalls are most readily remedied by local increases in production.

    D. When agricultural production is market-driven, it is likely to respond to rising demand by increasing production.

    E. Centrally controlled agricultural production has been shown to be more inefficient than market-driven models.

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    Correct Answer: D

    When agricultural production is market-driven, it is likely to respond to rising demand by increasing production.

    The speaker concludes that Chinese production will rise if demand requires it based on the premise that Chinese production is now market-driven. Clearly the author connects market-driven methods with matching supply and demand. Choice A isn't right because it isn't actually about the difference between global and regional markets but about China's transformation to a market economy. Choice B doesn't justify the conclusion but explains how things worked under China's older system. Choice C is wrong because the speaker isn't talking about local production. Choice D looks like the right answer. The speaker bases his conclusion on the principle that a market economy will respond to increased demand with increased production. Choice E isn't right. The speaker doesn't mention inefficiency or even compare a market-driven system to a centrally regulated one; he's only interested in the effects of China's transition between the two. Choice D is the best answer.

    I think they swapped the words supply and demand in the conclusion and that it should read "Therefore, if supply for grain continues to fall short of demand, Chinese production of grain should increase dramatically." I know questions don't have to reflect reality, but this isn't even internally consistent. Continues should refer to the situation presented in the first sentence, but the first sentence clearly says that consumption (demand) is greater than production (supply). And the first line of the explanation also clearly says "The speaker concludes that Chinese production will rise if demand requires it", and demand would only require it if demand were greater than supply.

    Thoughts?

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    Regarding valid & Invalid arguments is there a list that outlines "Not flawed" arguments? For example, I know that conditional statement i.e.

    A-->B

    A

    -----

    B

    if structured properly makes this a valid argument,

    but are there other ways that the test-makers are testing for such as

    causality...

    The reason I ask is that from what I can tell so far, is that causality is a method that the test-makers use in the arguments, and yet, they are also flawed causality arguments and we are to find an answer choice that shows their error in the causal relationship.

    So I'm using the term valid argument in this post loosely to better clarify my question.

    Are there other methods the test-makers use to construct arguments or are there all going to be just conditional or causal?

    Thanks

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    Yale has two unique sections on their application, titled 'College Activities' and 'Post-college Activities,' respectively. I'm not sure whether these should be answered in the form or a list or through a narrative/essay format, as the guidelines are fairly ambiguous.

    Here are the prompts:

    College Activities:

    Please answer a, b, and c separately from any included résumé. Your application will not be considered complete unless a, b, and c are answered. Please list:

    (a) Significant extracurricular activities and unpaid externships or internships in college, in order of their relative importance to you. Please estimate your time commitment for each activity.

    (b) Paid employment while in college and during vacations.

    (c) Other activities during college (in or out of school) that you consider relevant.

    Post-college Activities:

    If it has been more than three months since you attended college, describe what you have been doing in the interval. You should include graduate or professional education, paid or unpaid employment, as well as any other activities that you consider relevant. Please answer this question separately from any information provided in a résumé.

    How are people handling these? If there are any 7Sagers on the board who have applied and been accepted to Yale—and who are still active on here—I'd love to hear what you did. I'm also curious how others who are in the midst of preparing their apps are going about answering these sections.

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