Hello!

I really want to improve on my conditionality. Especially when it comes to looking at the stimulus and, although it's not worded in traditional "if...then" statements, be able to get a sense of what the conditionality is.

Does anyone have any suggestions for how to improve upon this? I've recently redone the course. I'm going through my old answer choices from this time around and making sure I understand why my answers were wrong, so I think this is really the time to increase my skills on this.

I know I can go through old questions and write out the conditional statements, but has anyone done anything additional they wouldn't mind sharing?

Thanks :)

(good luck to all you Feb LSAT takers getting your grades back soon!)

Hey guys, I dug these up in the older posts. Just wanted to repost if anyone needs them

Edit: These notes belong to @emli1000! Thanks!

INTRODUCTION TO GROUPING GAMES: THE IN-OUT GAMES

CONDITIONAL RULES TRIGGER V. IRRELEVANT Lesson 1 of 27

• Sufficient satisfied: Rule triggers, necessary must be satisfied.

J→ F

Jl

------------

Fl

• Sufficient failed: Rule irrelevant, necessary free to satisfy or fail.

J→F

/JA

-------

YOU CAN STILL INVITE F

• Necessary failed: Rule triggers, sufficient must be failed.

J→F

/FA

-----------

/JA

• Necessary satisfied: Rule irrelevant, sufficient free to satisfy or fail.

J → F

FA

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*YOU CANNOT SAY IF ALLY IS FREE TO BE A F USER OR A J

“NOT BOTH” V. “OR” TRUTH TABLES LESSON 5 OF 27

NOT BOTH:

• SC = POSITIVE

• MAX = 1, MIN= 0

OR:

• SC= NEGATIVE

• MAX=2, MIN=1

HOW TO QUICKLY REACT TO LOGIC GAMES QUESTIONS STEM FLASHCARDS Lesson 13 of 24

1. Must be true / CANNOT be false

This type of question asks you to select the answer choice that must be true. In other words, the correct answer choice CANNOT be false. The four incorrect answers all could be false.

2. Must be false / CANNOT be true

This type of question asks you to select the answer choice that must be false. In other words, the correct answer choice CANNOT be true. The four incorrect answers all could be true.

3. Could be true

This type of question asks you to select the answer choice that could be true. The four incorrect answers all must be false or CANNOT be true.

4. Could be false

This type of question asks you to select the answer choice that could be false. The four incorrect answers all must be true or CANNOT be false.

Hint: switch “must” with “could” and “true” with “false”.

ADVANCED LOGIC- GAMES

ADVANCED: “AND/OR” IN SUFFICIENT CONDITIONS Lesson 2 of 15

SPLIT: OR IN SUFFICIENT

DON’T SPLIT: AND IN SUFFICIENT

• And/or in the SC

• IF Esmeralda OR James teaches the class, THEN Jenny will pay attention

o E or J → PA

Independent sufficient OR (SPLITS)

o E→

o PA

o J→

• IF Esmeralda AND James teaches the class, then Jenny will pay attention

o E and J → PA

o Jointly sufficient for this since it uses AND

ADVANCED: “AND/OR” IN NECCESSARY CONDITIONS Lesson 3 of 15

SPLIT: AND IN NECCESSARY

DON’T SPLIT: OR IN NECCESSARY

• IF Simmi takes American Pop Culture, then James OR Andrew will also take the class.

o S→ J or A

• IF Simmi takes American Pop Culture, then James AND Andrew will also take the class.

S→ J and A (SPLIT)

S→J

S→A

CONTRAPOSITIVES: DEMORGAN’S LAW Lesson 4 of 14

. and becomes or, vice versa

2. negate both elements

• If Tome plays, Then Jerone and Simmi play too.

T→ J and S

/J and /S → /T

= /J OR /S → T

• IF JENNY OR ANDRE SINGS, HEN JULIAN AND ESMERALD SING TOO.

JY OR A → JU AND E

[NOT] JU AND E]

=/JU OR /E → /JY AND /A

CONTRAPOSITIVES: DEMORGAN’S LAW THEORY Lesson 5 of 14

• IF JENNY OR ANDRE SINGS, HEN JULIAN AND ESMERALD SING TOO.

ADVANCED: BI-CONDITIONAL Lesson 7 of 15

• 2 Types

1. Always together, never apart

2. Always apart, never together

• English- indicate that you are reading a bi-conditional

1. (Either) or, but not both

2. If and/but only if

3. … But not otherwise

o EX: Alan(A) attends the meeting if but only if Chris(C) attends the meeting.

o A←→C

o What does this statement mean in English?

-Alan attends the meeting if Chris attends the meeting. (C→A)

And/But (mean the same thing)

-Alan attends the meeting only if Chris attends the meeting. (A→C)

C→A and A→C

= A←→C … Contrapositive is /A←→/C

4. Except

• Mastery

o Embedded Conditionals

• Contrapositive

OR, BUT NOT BOTH Lesson 8 of 15

1. (Either) or, but not both

o EX: Alan (A) or Chris(C) goes to the park, but not both.

o Alan or Chris goes to the park – [/A→C contrapositive /C→A]

o and and

o Alan and Christ cannot both go to the park. [A→/C contrapositive C→/A]

o /A←→C

o A←→/C

BUT NOT OTHERWISE Lesson 9 of 15

• EX: Alan goes to the park if Chris goes to the park, but not otherwise.

If Chris goes to the park, then Alan goes to the park [C→A contra. /A→/C] And/but

If Chris does not go to the park, then Alan does not go to the park.

[/C→A contra. A→C]

COMBINED: A ←→C contra: /A←→/C

EXCEPT Lesson 10 of 15

• Not all that important in a Logic Game. Hardly seen as in indicator

• EX: Alan goes to the park everyday, except the days on which Chris goes to the park.

o A→/C contra C→A

o /C →A contra /A→C

o COMBINED: A←→ /C contra /A ←→C

TWO TYPES OF BICONDITIONALS Lesson 11 of 15

1. Always, Together, Never apart

A ←→B – [always go to the park together]

/A←→/B – [Always together NOT at the park. They always stay home together]

LR: realize the distinguishION between the two have clasped.

2. Always Apart, Never Together

/A←→B [Alan does not go to park, Chris goes to the park]

A←→/B [Alan park, Chris stays home]

***NOTE: ONCE = IF= SC ***

MASTERY: EMBEDDED CONDITIONAL Lesson 13 of 15

• If, then, unless

• EX: If [the seeds are planted in the winter,] then [flowers will not blossom unless fertilizer is applied.]

/FB unless FA

/FA→ /FB contra FB→FA

• COMBINED: SPW→(/FA→/FB)

• WHAT THIS STATEMENT REALLY MEANS:

SPW AND /FA→/FB

OR

SPW→(FB→FA)

SPW AND FB→FA

MASTERY: EMBEDDED CONDITIONAL PROOF Lesson 14 of 15

SPW→(FB→FA)

SPW AND FB→FA

Ex: PROOF:

A→ (B→C)

/A or (B→C)

/A or (/B or /C)

(/A or /B) or C

NOT [/A or /B] →C

A and B →C

LAWGIC REVISTED Lesson 15 of 15

• Rule: 1. Move Sufficient out

2. Change arrow to AND

• Revisited: Translation Across English Construction

• Revisited: Element of Lawgic

1). → = arrow, implies

2). / = not, contradiction, negate

3). And = and

4). or = or

5). ←→ = biconditional

6). A, B, C, etc. = symbols

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

For in/out games, I tend to look for something along the lines of, "Each does exactly one of two things" or "out of x# of people, x# will be selected." For in/out games that have groups on the in or the out side, I usually notice that the pieces are split up before the rules by type. For example, "From 6 scientists, 2 Mad Scientists, 2 Crazy Scientists, and 2 Rogue Scientists, x# will be selected." In these cases, one of the rules will usually create a limit on the # of a particular type that can/can't be selected (at most 1 Mad Scientist can be selected if blahblah).

For chart games, I look for two sets of things with a binary switch for one set of things or the other. An example would be, x# car models/vacation packages/LSAT prep companies each have the possibility of these x# of features .... So you have x# things to which x# of other things either can or cannot apply. The either/or is your binary, your on/off switch and it goes in the middle, while the features and the things to which those features apply go on the outside edges. The cars with leather or sunroof was a good game to learn to recognize chart language.

Simple Grouping Games are a lot like the more complex chart games, but minus the binary switch. Instead of having 3 Council members vote yes/no (that's your binary) on 4 bills, you'd just have 3 Council members must vote on at least x# of bills. The game doesn't care how they vote (or in the abstract, doesn't care about the result of the binary switch).

For sequencing games, I notice lots of ordering words in the rules. For example, anytime I see X must be before Y but after Z, I assume sequencing and set it up as a simple sequencing game. If another rule adds another thing/descriptor that you have to tack on to each thing, then it becomes a double/multi-layer sequencing game - same setup, just add another row on top/bottom.

The Memory Method For Reading Comp

These are drills to be done with individual reading comp passages. Do these drills with 6-8 passages.

It may be tough at first, especially the “Check Your Memory” section. But if you stick with it you’ll learn to retain what you read.

Phase I – Improving Retention Memorize The Passage Structure [3.5 Minutes]

1. Take a passage. Spend 3.5 minutes reading it.

2. At the end of each paragraph, summarize the main point of that paragraph into one line.

3. At the end of the passage, look over each paragraph again and make sure you know the main point. Combine these main points into a narrative.

4. Once you know the point of each paragraph, decide on the main point of the passage.

-Gaining command of the passage will speed you up when doing the questions.

Check Your Memory [1.5 Minutes]

1. Turn over the passage – don’t look at it.

2. On a sheet of paper, write down the main point of each paragraph (one line each), and the main point of the passage.

-RC tests whether you really retained what you read. If you don’t remember anything at first, don’t worry, and don’t look back at the passage.

-Just write down what you do remember, and resolve to do better next time.

Do The Questions – Avoid Time-Traps [3.5 Minutes]

1. Turn the passage over, you can look at it again.

2. If the question involves a specific detail (e.g. lines 17-21, paragraph 2, the statements of Picasso and Braque), reread that section of the passage. This shouldn’t take long, because you memorized where details are located.

3. If there is no specific detail, attempt to answer the question.

4. In either case, if you think one answer is right, trust your gut and move on.

5. If you’re not sure, refer back to the passage [but be quick about it].

6. If step 5 doesn’t solve it, flag the question, pick an answer, and move on.

-If you waffle between answer choices, then you are spending most of your time on the hardest questions. This is a time-trap. You want to spend your time on questions you can solve.

-Give each question an honest shot. But if you aren’t getting it, cut your losses and move on to the other, easier questions.

-Eventually, you will get fast enough to come back to the flagged questions with a fresh mind. They’re often significantly easier the second time through.

Phase II – Reading Comprehension Mastery

The second phase of the memory method is exactly the same as the first, with one exception: you only spend 30 seconds on step two (Check Your Memory).

Do this 6-8 times. The first phase teaches you how to retain information. The second phase teaches you to quickly recall and apply it.

Conclusion – Practice, Practice, Practice

Getting good at LSAT Reading Comprehension is a habit. These drills lay the foundation for proper technique, but you’ll have to revisit them from time to time to perfect your method.

-If you feel your retention flagging, focus on improving it. A good command of the passage and it’s structure is the key to success on reading comprehension

I saw someone posted about LSAT day dreams, but it was closed because people were being awfully rude :/ I wanted to start the discussion again:

I day dream about 180. What about you?

Hi,

I was curious in finding out what approach you may all take before taking a PT? Such as do you do certain game set/practice problems before a PT? Do you read articles? Do you exercise? What is it that you do that gets your mind ready for a PT?

Pretty self-explanatory... I've taken a few tests more than once and want to mark improvement and check across answers. Am I able to add an additional score to a test without erasing my first score? Thanks in advance!

Hello!

If anyone has taken more than one LSAT, as in, maybe one in the summer and one in the regular school year; is there a difference? I'm speaking performance wise here. I mean, 12pm seems like a much better time to take a test. Our biological clocks are use to being awake and active by 12 (most people). Do people score higher in the summer in general?

I'm taking the June exam and was wondering if this is a thing. When I took the December 2014 exam I woke up at 5am to get ready (I woke up at 5am regularly with about 8 hours of sleep). I still feel like it was too early for the test. Also, LG happened to be my first section and I was just not fully awake at that point in time (mentally).

If anyone has questions, thoughts, or perspectives, please share.

What do you guys do to keep your mind off lsat before scores are out?

I am very nervous. Before I sat for the February lsat, the last five prep test were all 180. I know some like to believe getting 180 is out of luck, but I worked hard to get there so for me it wasn't matter of getting lucky. I'm hoping my actual lsat will be 180 as well.

I sometimes day dream of accidently getting the answer sheet on test day so I have all the answers.

This happened to me on my midterm exam once. The professor gave me the answer sheet on accident but of course he realized it before I could memorize any of the answers.

What is your LSAT fantasy/day dreams?

Looking to go over a test every Sunday in the Madison area; if interested please leave me a message.

Hi all,

Curious about your thoughts on how often and under what circumstances you turn LR questions into "lawgic" diagrams. I find that in a lot of cases, even when I see conditional relationships or logical indicators, I get to the answer faster without drawing them out. Or, at least sometimes, when I do draw out the relationships, it doesn't necessarily help me answer the question and I feel like I've just wasted a bunch of precious precious time.

Appreciate your thoughts and advice!

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I'm totally thrown on S.U questions; I've been back through the theory videos and still get 100% of the questions wrong. During BR I can't seem to understand why right questions are right and why wrong questions are wrong.

My logic skills, during the letter exercises (drawing inferences, etc) are strong; things seem to just fall apart when having to instead deal with word-based stimuli and logic structures that are not as clear cut as they were during the theory exercises.

Does anyone have an external resources they know of that could help bridge the gap? If so, I'd be very grateful and may even be able to avoid going totally grey before October ;)

Thanks.

Hello all you LSAT wizards!

Was hoping you could help me figure out a study approach for the June Lsat. I took the test in October and got a 152, then signed up for the 7sage Starter about 5 weeks before the December exam. I completed the curriculum just in time and did about 7 preptests before writing the test. I got a 158. So, June is my last shot to get the best score I can. I upgraded to the LSAT Premium, as I had purchased almost all of the newer preptests through Cambridge, and didn't see the sense in going for the Ultimate right away. I may still upgrade to ultimate tho.

My plan is to review the curriculum from the beginning, and use the foolproof method for games, while taking a preptest a week until June. It's been almost 2 months since I've touched the material, but I hope it'll come back quickly.

Any other retakers out there? Can you offer any tips for retaking?

Many many kindest thanks!

I'm sure this has been posted before. It's a bit of motivation and a bit of a joke all in one!

I'm thinking of creating Facebook study group where we can chat with each other about lsat related stuff. I find it hard doing Skype, Google hangsout because 1) not everyone has Webcam and 2) since people live in different locations the time zone is different and may not allow one to get on Skype on time.

By using Facebook we can take pictures of the stimulus we are having a hard time with or just send a question and have whoever that is online at the moment respond. It would be like a 24/7 lsat service lol

If interested send me your Facebook email in private message and I'll add you to the chat forum.

I am relatively new to the law school game. I am applying to work at a firm as a legal assistant. I was wonder if anyone would be able to review my cover letter. As i am not native english speaker and i think that will translate. I am very nervous and I would greatly appreciate it. I am working very hard to be better everyday and I can't let my shortcoming stop me.

I'm six weeks into study, preparing for October.

Had my first LSAT dream last night and, strangely enough, my understanding of some tough Logic has fallen into place today.

When did you have your first LSAT dream?

Hi everyone!

I've been studying for the LSAT for a short time and I'm not sure where to go from here.

I started when I had an epiphany 6 weeks before the February test that I wanted to go to law school. I studied nonstop, maybe 4-5 hours a day, for 6 weeks. I started with a score around 153 and expect to get 165 on that test. Most of my studying was devoted to Jay's awesome videos, bringing my LG score from ~13 to ~21. In addition I did preptests 61-72 under timed conditions (scores varied from 159 to 165).

After the February test I decided that I thought I could do better. I printed preptests 1 to 61 and have been taking them nonstop. My scores have gone from 165 to today's test of 176. (preptest 7) Obviously I'm happy with that score, but I am looking for advice on how to get it higher.

Right now I'm getting -1 or -2 on LR, -0 on LG, and -4-6 on RC. And I feel like that accurately expresses my ability in each area. I know that these tests I'm doing right now are older (I'm doing them in order) so this may not translate exactly to modern tests, but I am trying to forecast.

My question is:

How should I be practicing, other than taking more and more preptests, such that once I get to test 74 in June I can score a 180?

I am trying to find LSATs 1-35 on 7sage. The system is setup to score them and content is used throughout the theory sections, but I can't seem to find where to download the early tests for practice. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

I diagram my If, then, unless statements like this, would this be accurate way of diagram this condition?

• If, then, unless

----------------------------SPW--------------------------------------------/FB---------------------------FA

• EX: If [the seeds are planted in the winter,] then [flowers will not blossom unless fertilizer is applied.]

SPW: Seeds Planted in the Winter

FB: Flowers Blossom

FA: Fertilizer is Applied

SPW → /FB

........ → FB → FA

(The first arrow in the second condition is suppose to slant down from "SPW"

Hi! If anyone in the Tampa Bay area wants to study, just let me know. I am currently studying for the June LSAT. I think it would be a great idea to meet up and prep together!

just curious because i usually learn a few things here and there when doing a test but i am always curious as to whether if they are true ^_^

Well, LSAT over and today was my last LSAT day EVER as I've already been accepted to what is probably my #1 law school choice, taking all factors into consideration. Remembering the LSAC/7Sage rules of confidentiality, how did it go for fellow 7Sagers? I felt it went okay though it will make a difference which turns out to be the experimental section as one went better for me than the other. Cockroaches in my hotel room last night didn't help me get a relaxed night's sleep but the test center did a really good job - efficient and pleasant. Hope you all did yourself proud :-)

I would like to study with someone who is using Testmasters and Manhatten LR.

I am also using 7sage for logic gamea.