Watsup Team! I hope everyone is doing well.

I took the LSAT 2 years ago and did not get the score I wanted. I ended up not retaking but continued on with my commercial real estate job.

Fast forward to today, I just began studying again. I have decided to take the new form of the LSAT (sans LG) in Aug of this year in order to apply to early decisions by November. I would like to pursue my dream of becoming a deal attorney here in the Mountain West.

For the next 9 months I will be solely studying LR and RC. My reasoning behind this is that 2 subjects are easier to study for than 3. Plus I was never great at LG lol. In fact, I hate LG. However, I (oddly enough) enjoy LR.

If anyone wants to start a study group to focus on the newest format of the LSAT, I am available.

Bon Chance!

studying since may, hovering around 170-72 with blind review and 165-69 before. can comfortably finish a section in about 38-42 minutes and i am taking the september lsat.

[I am posting on behalf of a 7Sage user. Please feel free to leave your comments below. Thank you for your help!]

Hi, could someone please explain this question to me? I didn't understand the video.

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-32-section-1-question-16/

Proctors: Didn't seem to know all that much except for the main proctor who was in-charge of the tests within the whole building (3 rooms I think) other than that there wasn't a problem with them. They were nice and didn't distract us.

Facilities: Much better than expected (cant judge a school's facility based off its rank) place was super clean, very roomy and had some cool tech (has nothing to do with test but each seat had a mic on the desk to ensure the whole class can hear)

What kind of room: Stadium seating lecture hall. Very large but the back had a bunch of seats with no desks

How many in the room: 75-100

Desks: Large desks broken up into three sections per row (like a movie theater) with people spaced every other chair. All the room you need to get set up and be comfortable. No issues at all

Left-handed accommodation: desks were large along with spaced seating should have caused no extra accommodations to be needed (I'm righty so...)

Noise levels: fine, normal coughing/sneezing

Parking: NYC so you have to deal with parking buildings. I took public transit.

Note: there is NOWHERE to safely leave a bag, so if you are going here, DO NOT bring anything you are not supposed to have. There were multiple people frantically looking for a place to leave their bags (eventually left them all with a doorman, I assume they didn't have a problem getting them back but no idea)

Time elapsed from arrival to test: fairly quick, 20-30 minutes from listed start time (maybe less)

Irregularities or mishaps: again, most of the proctors clearly weren't trained so we had a couple of minutes in between sections (IIRC the proctors walked around to make sure you weren't still writing/in a different section) Threw me off at first but had plenty of time to re-coop, I enjoyed the extra time to clear my head and prep for the following section.

Other comments: Nice place, would be top choice of mine if retaking and lived closer (getting there was not a problem from LI, LIRR to Penn and a quick subway ride brought me maybe 5 blocks from school) I just registered for the test pretty late. I would definitely recommend it to those nearby or even on LI (if Hofstra is unavailable-NOTE: Touro is open to replace Hofstra for June, so it may be better than travelling to NYC but not sure how the facilities/testing conditions are there)

Would you take the test here again? Yep, as said above, if Hofstra is not available I would make the trek

feel free to post or message any questions

I'm taking today off. I've been studying around 9 hours a day for a while. I think I'm going to turn on some pod casts and clean my place while I play with my little dog. Hope all my fellow LSAT warriors are doing great! I'm not one to participate too much on the threads however I have absorbed a lot of advice from all of you all. Thank you.

Also, if there are any veterans in the DFW area that could use a good paying job which allows you to study at work send me a pm.

Good luck everyone!

Hey guys, I have been studying for 4-5 months now and I started with a 136 pt score. I did see improvement with 7 sage and got my highest score to a 147. My goal is a 150-155. However, when I take pts recently my score is not really improving. it has been 145, 138, 147, 139, 140, 139 in 2-week increments. I also notice that especially in Rc i don't get to finish all the passages on time and have to guess. What is some advice or things you did to help with score improvement? I plan to take the LSAT in august, so I have 2-3 months to get 10 points +

I am posting this here so I have a chance of getting $50 bucks. I want to talk abt my buddy jack. He too is studying for the LSAT. Love that guy. LSAT sucks.

Did anyone else take the test abroad? I had two LG sections. Was the Ghana/India/France question real or experimental?

I really don't like any of these answer choice, but I was pretty confident when I eliminated D. Can someone explain how D resolves the paradox? In my mind, it makes it weirder.

Right after the war, the area that had been subject to oil fires and oil spills had less contamination than prewar surveys indicated. The surveys also indicated that PAHs were low compared to those in more temperate oil producing areas.

What I am looking for: If the land had been contaminated with all of this bad stuff during the war, then how was their less contamination after the war than before? Maybe the survey was wrong? Maybe some people cleaned up the land?

Answer A: Who cares about the effects. We want to know how there was more contamination.

Answer B: I think this makes the paradox weirder. Shouldn't there have been more PAH compared to that in temperate regions?

Answer C: This is what I chose, but I didn't like it all that much. Even if this is true, this explains why PAHs were low compared to temperate regions, but it doesn't explain anything about before the war levels and after the war levels. What if after the war levels of PAH were higher than before the war, but after the war levels were still lower than the Baltic Sea regions? It fits the facts and makes the paradox weirder.

Answer D: I felt 110% confident eliminating this one, and I can't figure out how this does anything but make the paradox weirder/do nothing. If peacetime oil production results in high levels of PAH and oil dumping, then this could mean two things: 1.) this answer choice is talking about the period of time after the war (which definitely does not help the paradox since we want to know why all of this bad stuff was lower than before the war) or 2.) this is talking about before the war. But if this latter case is what this answer choice is talking about, then wouldn't we need to have the relative contamination effects of oil dumping, oil fires, and oil spills? So yes, during the war, oil production declined (line 4), but a ton of bad contaminating things still happened. How is it OK to assume that the contaminating things in answer choice D (prior to the war) had a greater effect than the stuff that happened during the war? What if they actually had a lesser effect on the environment than the fires and spills during the war? This is a plausible occurrence, consistent with the facts in the passage and facts in the answer choice; this would make the paradox weirder, right? I used this same type of reasoning (coming up with a scenario consistent with the facts) to eliminate C.

Answer E: OK, but why was the contamination less after the war? Wouldn't this imply that the damage wasn't as bad as it could have been, but there was still an increase in damage?

Proctors: 1

Facilities: Nothing noticeable bad. Building was bigger, but was able to find the restrooms pretty easily.

What kind of room: Took the exam in one of two small lecture-style auditoriums.

How many in the room: 25-30

Desks: Auditorium seating with swivel-up desks.

Left-handed accommodation: Possibly.

Noise levels: In general the building and class room was parking.

Parking: Though parking could have been an issue given the area, I had no trouble parking on campus relatively close to the building.Did not have to pay to park. I got there pretty early to find a spot, and saw several.

Time elapsed from arrival to test: Took about 25 minutes for everyone to line up and get assigned a room.

Irregularities or mishaps: None. Everything went smoothly.

Other comments: Things were very calm and went smoothly.

Would you take the test here again? I would probably prefer a place with bigger desks. I had to store my stuff on the ground or the seat next to me. Would have been nicer to be able to spread more.

Date[s] of Exam[s]:February 2015.

Just decided to postpone last minute cuz my scores weren’t consistent and I really wanted a 170+ and it would be my fifth take... feeling pretty defeated ;/

I really hope this isn’t a mistake. but excited to work with all the November test takers!!

I missed this one during the timed exam, and I didn't change it during BR since I didn't see how A fully explained the facts.

Over the past five years, the number of car thefts has decreased while the likelihood of someone being convicted of stealing a car has increased.

What I am looking for: What if the technology to catch someone has increased so much that people are deterred from stealing a car and those that do get caught easily/have a lot of evidence against them? What if all of the "good" car thieves have been caught, and just a few really bad/easy to catch car thieves try to steal cars?

Answer A: The first part definitely explains the fact that the number of thefts have decreased: there are fewer thieves. I don't really see how the second part has anything to do with the conviction rate, though. So what if they abandon the car later? What does that have to do with conviction? Not sure about the LSAT's logic with this one...

Answer B: I picked this originally, but when I read it during BR, I really didn't like it all that much. Since I still didn't like A, I kept this during BR. The car alarm idea might explain the lack of car thefts superficially, but if people ignore them, why are there fewer thefts? The thieves probably wouldn't be dissuaded.

Answer C: This might make the situation weirder. If police resources are not used on car thefts, then how has the conviction rate increased? Wouldn't thieves try to steal more cars often if the police don't spend their time on such crimes?

Answer D: This also makes the situation weirder. This suggests that stealing cars is very profitable, so why would there be a decrease in the number of thefts?

Answer E: It's hard to see how there being more young car thieves helps explain the idea that car thefts have decreased in frequency. Also, the fact that they are given short sentences suggests that they will come right out and steal cars again.

Any tips for someone who consistently has RC as their worst, avg 8 questions wrong?

Hello,

I recently received my CAS evaluation and noticed they included grades from non-undergraduate courses. These courses have no undergraduate standing and were for a certificate course. Does anyone know if non-undergraduate courses are included in the CAS gpa calculation?

Thank you!

Hey 7Sage,

12 days until the Sept exam, WOOT! I am seeking advice on what PTs to do in the next two weeks. I have already done nearly

all the exams. My only completely untouched exams are old exams -- 39 and 44. Maybe also 10 and 13. Thus, I don't think I should focus on those in the next two weeks, although they are new to me. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I think I want to look at the newest PTs again, since they're nuanced compared to older tests. I have done 70-72 and 75-80 once each. I figure I will do 3 more before the 16th. Should I do 78-80? Does it matter? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

So around July I will be done with the CC, and I plan on testing in October. I also know that I may not finish every PT that is available right now, but which PT would you recommend me to start from? should I start with the older PT's or just the newer ones (141-158)?

Thank you in advance!

Has anyone taken the LSAT in Rome at this testing center? Looking for feedback.

Hello, is there anyone here who is applying to University of Melbourne's JD program for the 2020 intake/ currently enrolled there ? I was wondering if I could hear about your experience!

Hi! I'm planning to take the October LSAT and would love a Boston-based study buddy if you're out there. Feel free to PM me if you're interested.

Hi all,

I am trying to figure out the best way to spend my last couple of days (Thursday and Friday) before I sit for the test on Saturday. Originally, my plan was to use Thursday to drill a bunch of individual sections from different preptests and take Friday to do some light practice (nothing timed, barely any work tbh) just to keep the material fresh in my mind. However, I'm now getting conflicting advice from some friends who I have been asking.

I took my most recent (and what I presumed to be my last) 5-section timed exam last night (Tuesday) and did the best I've ever done on a preptest. Obviously I was thrilled, but now I'm wondering if it would be in my best interest to take one final preptest in conditions that will be more similar to the actual test (in the morning, in a relatively quiet space, etc.). I have only taken one 9am preptest at this point since I work full-time (I'm taking the next 2 days off for test prep). Should I just try to ride on the confidence of my most recent practice test going into test day?

Additionally, I have heard some talk of "warming up" on the day of the exam. I would love to know if this technique has worked out for others.

Any and all advice would be tremendously appreciated! :)

I don't know if this is possible, or something others have requested in the past (I didn't see any previous requests for it), but I would love to have my settings from my previous quiz saved when I move on to the next one. Or even if there was just an option to "Use Presets" from before so I could activate them in one click — that would be simply magical.

Here are the settings I'm referring to, if you're not familiar:

Ideally, I'd like to be able to automatically activate fullscreen mode (1 click), coffee shop background noise (2 more clicks), select a highlighter (1 more click), and set the font size to "small" (2 more clicks). For those of you counting along, that's 6 clicks for each quiz, before starting the quiz. That can get to be a lot if you're doing 15 quizzes in a row (lookin' at you, Weaken Questions section...).

Obviously, this isn't a "required" feature — just something that would be nice to have. I don't know if there's anywhere to "officially" request features aside from the "Contact Us" option, but I thought I'd see if anyone else thought this might be useful.

What do you think? Would this be helpful for you, or am I alone in this desire?

Hi Everyone!

Head’s up: later this month, LSAC is doing a system-wide upgrade that will affect some of their online services. It will begin at 5 p.m. ET on Friday, December 22, and is expected to end at around 5 p.m. ET on Saturday, December 23. During these 24 hours, certain LSAC services, including candidates’ online accounts on LSAC.org and LawReady, will be offline.

During this time, people will be unable to complete transactions such as registering for a future LSAT, submitting fee waivers or accommodation requests, accessing their accounts, or submitting applications.

Services on LawHub.org will remain available during the upgrade window. Scheduling for the January 2024 LSAT will continue through Prometric. However, information on candidate accounts will not be updated until the upgrade is completed.

If you have any further questions, you can contact LSAC via https://lsac.zendesk.com/, email them at lsacinfo@lsac.org, or call them at 215.968.1001.

This question doesn't have an explanation, so I wanted to see if anyone could back up my reasoning.

The flaw of the question stem is that it confuses necessary conditions for sufficient ones. Correctly formatting the script as well as having it be submitted by an agent is necessary for the script to not be discarded, but it does not guarantee that it won't be. There could be another reason, such as that it arrived too late, that it would be discarded.

A is not the correct choice because it is a valid argument.

B is not correct because it's a different flaw. It takes for granted that Jon is a good cook. You can also argue that it's flawed in that the necessary condition "delicious" is subjective.

C is correct, although its a bit tricky. It confuses sufficient conditions for necessary ones. Exercising daily or quitting smoking will improve Bob's health, but he doesn't need to do either one to improve his fitness level. He could lose weight by dieting for example. I think this is what makes this question so difficult (5 circles).

D is incorrect because it's a different flaw. It confuses the sufficient conditions for one argument with another. A car not having a permit or having an expired one are sufficient conditions for police being allowed to ticket. The Police being allowed to ticket does not mean they will ticket; They could give you a warning or maybe do nothing.

E is incorrect because its a different flaw. It takes for granted that because a dog can do advanced tricks it will respond correctly to basic commands. It's possible that a dog could do a backflip but would refuse to sit.

let me know if my reasoning is accurate - thanks!

Hi. I'm planning on taking the test in October or November ! And I'm in need of a study buddy in the Charlotte area that is open to meeting up and doing zoom calls as well.

Does anyone know of any admissions group chats? I know LSD has chatrooms but I was thinking more along the lines of group chats or discords for people applying fall '24. I don't know many pre-law people, just attorneys from work, as I am in the workforce and am first-gen. If anyone wants an accountability partner for the admissions process please hmu! I've got a 164 and am going to be applying to several schools around t50, mostly in the midwest. Thanks!