My September score wasn't what I wanted but it's good enough for most of the schools I'm looking at. I'm retaking in December but should I go ahead and apply now? If I apply now, should I write an addendum about another score coming or will they see that I'm registered?

Hi there. I received my Sept LSAT score (167) last night and scored substantially lower than my prep-tests (avg173). I knew walking out of the test that my score would be lower as I screwed up the timing on my RC section pretty substantially and ended up rushing through the last passage, barely reading and answering the questions. My top school is NYU -- I was planning on applying ED and for the RTK scholarship. I am going to retake in December, but this eliminates the opportunity to apply ED and for the RTK scholarship ( I think?).

I guess I'm wondering if there are any other options-- is there any point in applying ED with my Sept. LSAT score and allowing my December score to come in later? Or is it possible to apply to the RTK scholarship with a Dec LSAT score (the application is technically due Jan 1st. but Dec. LSAT score release date is Jan 4th).

Applying as early as possible is something that has been emphasized so much by advisors that I guess I'm feeling apprehensive about a December retake, but I am confident that I can raise my score by at least 3 pts.

Any Advice would be much appreciated.

Anybody thinking of doing this? Would love to discuss with you if so - feel free to respond to this msg or DM me. Thanks!

If you have the admissions program for 7sage then you are going to recognize the name Anna Ivey, or at least the book Ivey's guide to Law School Admissions. I was curious as to how a real admissions officer took every part of our applications into consideration and if they could, what honest advice they would have. Anna Ivey is a former admissions officer for University of Chicago Law School (i believe), and when she left to create her own admissions company, she wrote a books giving advice students want when talking to councilors. She talked about everything from what to say about low gpas, and some nuances as far as supplemental statements go, what types of personal statements tend to catch admission officers eyes and talked about the nuances (like making sure you spell resume properly aka résumé). Those things she said really mattered when they make decisions between certain candidates and would matter to schools who don't do interviews like U of Chicago do to get to know the applicants. I HIGHLY suggest reading it because I found it to be incredibly helpful and made me look back over my own résumé (one my career advisor said was good) because it had mistakes in terms of set up and what I didn't use it to do which was have a 'personal section'. I didn't by the higher costing admissions programs that 7sage has because me and my family don't have a great deal of money.

So if you're looking for advice that is low costing I definitely suggest getting her ebook for kindle (you can get the app, it's free for some and my cost a bit for others) but it's totally worth it. I read through the entire thing in about a day and half, if that. I highlighted and made notes too because it was that helpful.

Hey everyone,

So I'll be taking the December test after getting my 165 on September. Hoping to crack into the 170's by December.

Anyway, I was wondering how the LSAC transcript stuff works for me if I'll be applying right after the scores come out for the December test. Am I going to have to send an updated transcript with my fall grades to LSAC? The only thing that I'm worried about is it taking too long to process and not having my apps ready to fire off as soon as scores come out. I would actually like them to be updated because I think it'll bump up my GPA ~.03 points (minuscule I know).

Thanks!

did anyone start a February study group yet ?

Hi everyone. Silly question, but I hope y'all can help me out. About a month ago, I found a website -- that I can no longer remember the name of, and it doesn't show up in my browser history -- that laid out each LR question type and, if I recall correctly, a guide on what to do when you're down to two answers: i.e. when it's this question type, it'll almost always be an answer within this scope, or with this degree of modality, etc. Let me know if this rings a bell or if you can redirect me to this (or to a similar and free) resource. Thank you!

I decided I'm going to do early decision with Cornell. Round 1 began on September 1st and ends on November 1st, and Round 2 begins November 2nd and ends on January 8, 2018.

I'm not really sure, then, what would be better: applying late in Round 1 or applying early in Round 2.

On one hand, if I apply late in Round 1, then it would certainly be earlier than applying Round 2 if there is no distinction between rounds.

However, if the applications are categorized "by round," then it seems clear to me that it would be better to apply early in Round 2.

I hope my reasoning makes sense. Does anyone have any insight on this?

Cornell's website has this to say:

WHEN SHOULD I APPLY?

Applications are reviewed in order of completion by our Admissions Committee, but applicants are not always notified in that order. We recommend submitting your application as early as possible.

If anyone has a PS that is centered around divorce/close family member's death, I'd be glad to swap and offer some insight. My PS revolves around that subject. Go ahead and message me and I'll share email.

Hello,

I am looking for notes/comprehensive summary of the logical reasoning section for each question category. I would really appreciate if you message me your notes on the course.

Thank you so much!!!

Am still studying for the December re-sit and plodding through the materials. But I want to drop in a quick line to say Thank You JY and team!! you guys are brilliant!! I wish I had bought the paid course for my June LSAT prep. Unfortunately, I had connectivity issues at my apartment and chose against buying a course purely for that reason which I sincerely regret now coz it feels like a lot of wasted effort. The powerscore bibles were my companions and were a great introduction but nowhere close to how good the 7sage curriculum is!!! not even close!!

loving the curriculum, loving the presentation, enthused by the rigour of the content and the connected community....loving it all as a whole.....feel way more confident now....i used to take the PT's and have this horrible feeling of never knowing for sure how I did....was never very sure of myself....

simple concepts like validity were left vague in the powerscore bibles leaving one craving for clarity.....

miles to go before i sleep.....but can't help feeling confident from within and more sure footed....perhaps ignorance is bliss and maybe it's because I still have a lot of material to cover....

investment in the course feels worth every penny....

love u guys and a BIG THANK U!!

So I have found, as with many others I am sure, that time is the enemy (in general but way more so on the LSAT) When fool proofing are you guys starting out timed then just reducing the time each round, or do you begin untimed? I am never sure exactly how much time to give myself. I am not 100% on games ever but with a solid 15mins I can figure just about anything out (sometimes I still miss a question), but I know I will NEVER have that for just one game. I am not sure with what games I should be giving myself 8-10 mins, and which I should be giving myself 5...i've been thinking for fool proofing to give myself 10 mins on all to begin with, then each round of 'retesting' reducing it by two minutes? does that sound like a good idea? I really need to improve my logic games because right now I am finishing PT tests and getting usually all of the questions I FINISH right, but only actually finishing 2/4 games, which as you can imagine is killing my score.

"Has there ever been an interruption of one or more terms in your education for any reason?"

Is this asking about whether or not I took a semester off or transferred schools? Or are they asking about an interruption in the middle of a semester? My inclination is that a term refers to a semester, but I'm not 100% certain.

Anyone going to the Temple information session tomorrow morning? Curious if any other 7Sagers will be there.

Hi everyone,

I live in the Chicago area, and I'm studying heavily for the December 2017 LSAT. I'm looking for someone who is scoring in the low 160's right now so that we can both learn together. I'd prefer someone who actually lives in the Chicago area so that we could ostensibly meet up once in a while, but I'm also fine with skype/google hangout/facebook/whatever.

As another poster put it, I'm "gunning for a 180," and I'd really love to collaborate with someone who is similarly motivated.

does anyone know when this PT will be published?

Hey all,

I'll dive right into it - I am struggling with something called an inadvertent memory recall (made the name up) when re-doing practice tests. I don't know if this is a real "science" thing or if someone in the community mentioned this already (searched after doing some light research) but its something I'm struggling with. I have my own solutions posted below and extremely curious to hear what you're thoughts are to avoid this habit.

Here's an example, about 2-3 months ago I wrote PT 73 and recently re-took it. I noticed that I was inadvertently 'lax' when doing both LR sections, which at the time felt strange. While I was in 'lax mode' (which I try to avoid at all times) in the LR sections, however, I caught myself recalling bits of information I remembered up when I first took the exam! This is clearly a big no-no as it can lead to a highly inaccurate score, hinder my ability to get better and, worst of all, it may as well be a false indicator of genuine improvements. My last PT was a 168, but after taking PT 73 my score was 155! I practically went back to my 'old self' when I re-took this exam when, clearly, I improved.

My 2 solutions to this accident are as follows:

Purposefully give yourself tunnel vision and magnify into each word when reading the LR stim.

If a piece of 'old self' information creeps up on you while doing an LR question, quickly sling your ass back to reality (much like a rubber band) and restart at the top of the stim.

That's my 2 cents. Curious to hear other remedies or advice!

Has anyone ever had a "student conduct" violation on their record that gave them issue while applying to law school?

When I was a freshman I violated my UG's Alcohol policy and got written up for it and I'm worried it's going to hurt my chances. I requested a student record to confirm that the violation is listed. It's the only "mark" on my record.

When I studied for my nursing boards I would use NCLEX books as I went along and go over my week points. I never did a full test until I went to Kaplan. Should I take the same approach with the LSAT since I am not taking them until June 2018. I bought the Kaplan book and have a few others hoping if I learn the concepts then I can start taking the practice tests later on.

Hi guys!

Quick question for you all. My university offered me a position in one of it's study abroad centers, as an assistant to the program. The program starts in January 2018 and is a big reason why I decided to take a gap year between undergrad and law school. I've spent the interim between graduation and starting work by studying for the lsat and perfecting my law school applications.

Now, I had originally planned to explain this gap year in an addendum but I've noticed a couple school's don't have an option for it and for example, U Michigan notes that it should be instead mentioned in the resume.

So my question is basically how? Can I put it under experience if I haven't even started it?

Or would it be under "Personal" section?

Any enlightenment would be greatly appreciated. Thanks guys!

What's your strategy with the notes? I personally copy and paste everything in the text into it and print it all out so I can highlight/annotate it. It's basically the same thing JY is saying right? I feel like I can't grasp the ideas and retain it without a hard copy to work with. If you guys have other ways to take down notes since this is an online course that's better, let me know. I'm using a lot of paper but I feel like it's worth it. Thanks!

I have only one potential topic for the personal statement which is mock trial in high school and why that made me want to pursue law

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There isn't a particular question type that I consistently struggle with, but I tend to miss 3ish in the last 10 on LR and I'm wondering what people's strategies are. I went -4/-3 in September and I'm realistically aiming for -2/-2 in December. Should I just focus on slowing down? Double check the answer against the prompt? I'm usually at question 15 by 15 minutes in, and question 20 by 25 minutes in.

Hi everyone, I'm looking for a study group in the manhattan area or online to help me improve my score for feb. A little bit about myself I took the LSAT in September and got a 144, I am aiming for a 155 or above. If anyone is willing to team up with me to tackle this test you are welcome. I'm looking for people who scored at or above me, however I welcome everyone since we are all in this together and we all started at one place or another.