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Just wanted to thank 7Sage for providing this service, especially the discount for those of us with less resources.

I started studying for the LSAT with 7Sage in June of last year with a diagnostic of 159, and I took the January LSAT after eight months of studying. I got a 171, and I recently was accepted into my first pick school!

Again, thank you for providing this service, as it has helped me immensely. Good luck to all future test takers!

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Hi!

I've been studying on and off for the LSAT since March 2023 and have applied twice but haven't gotten in anywhere. I stopped studying early this year around January but I'm starting again soon. The only program I've used is 7sage but I'm starting to think maybe that's what's keeping my score in the range of 50-160. I'm wondering if anyone has any tips or other resources I should use/pair up with the 7sage curriculum to boost my score for when I write the test again. Thank you!

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Hello,

Has anyone experienced large losses in time when taking 7Sage's practice test? For context, I am losing large chunks of time, some 10+ minutes, while taking sections on the practice test. Additionally, I'm currently testing with time and a half.

I'd love to hear if anyone is experiencing similar problems or has found a solution. I'd hate to leave the platform for one that functions properly. I've had a positive experience with 7Sage so far, but this is negatively impacting me on exams.

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I swear recommenders ghosting you is a necessary part of the application process.

Anyway, back in early March, I reached out to three professors (I graduated 2023) to see if they'd be willing to write for me, and all of them said yes. 2/3 have completed the letters, but one of them still hasn't, despite me asking for it to be completed by the end of April. When they said they would do it, they asked for extra materials like a rough personal statement, which I provided. No response, which is fine. Since then, I have emailed them a reminder with a resent LSAC link (another recommender wanted a reminder, so I sent them to any remaining recommenders), and no response. At this point, I'm not sure what to do. This recommender enthusiastically said they would write for me and very clearly remembered me, but I've gotten zilch. I know the end of their semester was a lot, which is why when I emailed them and said end of April, I included this acknowledgement and that if they had another target date in mind to please let me know.

What are some recommended steps? I'm not sure how active this person is on their email during the summer. Should I tweak my resume and send it as a "hey, here is an updated document to better help you" or something like that?

I plan on sending my apps in September/right when I get my August LSAT back, so waiting for their fall semester to start seems less than ideal. Should I just reach out to a former employer instead? (I'm SE now and work under an NDA, so I can't ask someone in my current position).

It seems like ghosting recommenders are part of the process, and I would love some advice for how to move forward. I've never really needed to ask for a letter of rec before, so someone ghosting me is all new, and I'm a first gen so I don't have anyone I can really ask.

Anyway, in early March, I reached out to three profs (graduated 2 years ago) to see if they'd be willing to write for me. They all enthusiastically said yes, and 2/3 have written their letters (yay!). But another has completely ghosted me. I had asked for it to be completed by the end of April and if that was a problem for them to please let me know what their target date could be, and that hasn't happened. When they agreed, they asked for a resume and a rough personal statement, so I sent them that and got no response. No sweat. As it neared my given deadline, I sent them a reminder, again including that if they need a different date to let me know because I completely understand how busy the time can be. Again, absolutely no response. I am taking the August LSAT and planning on submitting my apps when I get that score back, so I would be wary on waiting for their fall semester to start up since that would be when I am already submitting them and would be an ASAP request, which likely wouldn't help me.

I'm nervous about sending another reminder because I don't want to make them upset. Should I tweak my resume (I could add more work history since I have a bit of experience), then send it with the idea of "I updated some of my materials and think they may help you as you write"? Or, should I just throw in the towel and ask a former employer instead? My worry with the former employer is that they may use ChatGPT for it, and I'm not sure if admissions would frown upon me for that. Again, first gen, so I just have no clue. Thank you for any help! :)

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I just finished my second year of law school, and it's been an okay experience. I found the LSAT more enjoyable, and the people I met during my preparation were amazing study partners. We had so many great study sessions over Zoom, which were a lot of fun. I really miss you, my study buddies! I hope your law school experience turns out to be as rewarding as your journey with the LSAT!

So, if you are studying for the LSAT now, be sure to enjoy the LSAT and make the most of your time with your friends. Study together as much as you can.

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Can anyone help me to understand whether weakening questions are (1) only supposed to address the logical relationship between the premise and conclusion, and (2) are subject to general flaw reasoning. I thought so, but two questions have been throwing me for a loop, both from Kim's The LSAT Trainer. They are:

(1)

"Professor Watkins just received a significant raise, and now Professor Jenson has requested one too. However, Professor Watkins was only eligible to get a raise if she received tenure; she recently was awarded tenure, and was given the raise. Professor Jansen has no desire to get tenure, is not on track to get tenure, and will not get tenure. So, Professor Jenson's request will likely be denied."

Apparently, the answer that "Professor Jenson is well known for the work he does in his field, and the school is known to give raises in order to retain professors who are significant in the areas in which they work" is a weakening response. I don't understand how this can be, considering it has no logical bearing on the connections between the premise supports or conclusion. If it simply said "The university plans to give him tenure regardless," would that be an appropriate weakening response? The same book warns that "attractive wrong choices strengthen or weaken the point but not the reasoning." Is this possible because the answer here provides its own reasoning (Jenson -> well known and well known -> raise)? Otherwise I cannot make sense of it.

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"Medical Expert: For the past six months, we have been keeping statistics on surgery time for prostatectomies performed through traditional means, and through a new procedure that uses robotics. The study revealed that the surgeries using robotics took a average of forty-three minutes, whereas traditional surgeries took an average of over seventy minutes. The study involved sufficient enough mix of doctors and hospitals to guarantee that personal surgical skills and access to other types of equipment were not a factor in the study outcome. Therefore, we can conclude that in general it is faster to perform prostatectomies robotically than it is to perform them using traditional means."

Apparently, the answer "For the most simple prostatectomies, traditional surgeries take, on average, less time than robotic surgery" is a weakening response. I thought it was irrelevant, given this is clearly a part to whole flaw, but the book says that, because the fundamental flaw is that the stimulus ignores that different types of surgeries may take different time and that may be why the robot is faster (it could have just been getting faster surgeries), that this weakens the conclusion. I am confused, as it could be that some fraction of surgeries is faster without robots, but that does nothing to weaken the conclusion that /in general/ surgeries are faster robotically. Do very general reasoning flaws not apply when one is saying that a response weakens a conclusion? Is the statement "Most cars are red" weakened by the response "but my car is blue"?

To note, I don't believe these passages come from PrepTests, they were just made for the book. Please let me know what you think!

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Hey guys,

I'm organizing an LSAT discord study group specifically for people stuck in the range 166-170 and want to get to about 173-176. The key issue this discord group addresses is the lack of community for students who have finished the curriculum and are now looking for a community to PT or do drills with.

Tentatively, we'll have weekly study-together sessions, voice channels, and a buddy system. See you on Discord:)

https://discord.gg/2syvkJqjgg

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I'm new to 7sage. My question is, when should I first start drilling? Right now, I'm on the foundations module and just started the arguments section. Also, for drilling there are so many different question categories to choose from. How did you guys select yours? If someone could just explain when and how to drill I'd really appreciate it!

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Wondering if anyone else has had this issue. I have noticed that I get a far greater proportion of 4/5 level difficulty questions right while missing a lot of 2/3 level qs. This is mostly for LR!!

Most of my PTs have been mid-high 170s. I always BR and take diligent notes about why I got something wrong and I think I may somehow just still be falling for traps?? Or alternatively drifting through questions I can tell are on the easier side rather than really focusing?

But I don't know how to stop. Would love any advice if someone else has dealt with a similar situation!!

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PT145 S2 Q24 "Tariffs on particular products tend to protect the small percentage of the population that works in industries that make those products while hurting everyone else through higher costs. Polls show that in fact most people oppose such tariffs. So politicians would be more likely to be reelected if they voted against these tariffs."

Wow. Just wow. LSAT writers having their Simpsons arc predicting the future from all the way back in PT145!!! Let's get some votes against tariffs like the stim says! Regardless of your opinion on the tariff situation, I think this is the most relevant LSAT question to current events I've seen in my time studying.

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Hi, does anyone here who is from and lives in new jersey want to join my study group? I'm a Rutgers 2024 political science graduate and i'm planning on going to Rutgers Newark law school. I'm not associated with 7sage and this study group is not associated with 7sage, i'm just a Rutgers graduate studying for law school who created a study group.

Link: You're invited to my new group 'Rutgers Lsat Study Group' on GroupMe. Click here to join: https://groupme.com/join_group/107391736/NCY5vxPG

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Hi. I almost always find that I take twice the amount of time 7sage predicts I'll need or more to truly absorb the lessons, and I need significant breaks in-between to decompress. I thought I would be able to get through the entire course quickly in the beginning, but it got difficult as it started delving into logical reasoning. I find myself feeling lucky to get through 5-15 lessons a day. How many lessons does everyone try to do each day?

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Currently, I’m signed up for the June LSAT but am worried that I am rushing into it. I took the February LSAT and got a 160. Since then, I went back to the basics, did some studying and scored a 168 on my first PT back. However, after that I scored a 160 and a 161 and I am worried that I might be “wasting” an LSAT by doing it in June since I don’t want to take more than 3 LSATs and am considering taking it in August.

Here are roughly my pros and cons:

June

Pros: (1) would allow me to start on my applications while I wait for score, (2) would be earlier enough to allow me to prepare for the September or October one if I needed to retake, and (3) many of the errors I am making now are errors that I pick up on blind review / can increase as I get my stamina back up.

Cons: (1) potential to not increase much (wasting my second attempt) and (2) only one month more of studying to get to a consistently higher score.

August

Pros: (1) two more months of studying and potential to get more consistent, and (2) can help with confidence

Cons: (1) would limit me to taking October since I think September would be too soon (thus, applying later) (2) summer gets more complicated and I’m worried that studying might get more inconsistent, (3) probs will dedicate less time to applications.

Appreciate any thoughts and considerations!!

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