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Hi everyone,

I'm a non-traditional student and have been studying for about a year. I work full-time at a law firm, have a wife and kids. I have a 1 1/2 year old and a 16 year old. I work days and my wife works nights, when I get home from work I have to watch the baby and on Thursdays and Fridays I have to go to my 16 year old sons football games. So basically everyday I start at 5:30am and don't have a break until 8:30pm at the earliest at which point my mind is just numb. My study times are 5:30am-7:30am but I've just lost the motivation and I've started to go to the gym in the mornings instead.

I pushed really hard for the August LSAT and didn't perform as well as I'd hoped. I got a 152. I know I need to re-take the LSAT and get a better score but I'm totally burned out. When I try to study it just feels like my mind is numb and I just can't seem care or focus. It's been about a month now, and I was scheduled to take the October LSAT, but I haven't been studying and I'm probably just going to have to move it to next year and apply for 2024 at this point.

Has anybody experienced this burnout and does anyone have any tips to get past it? Thanks!

I'm struggling on how to foolproof previous LGs. For example I'm trying to redo a sequencing LG from PT32 section 3 game 3. I'm trying to create drills and I am unable to find that exact LG to add to my drill. Could someone help me out?

Hello,

My name is Ken Kim. We are a group of Koreans and Korean-Americans planning to take the LSAT either this October or in a couple of years. We have members scoring from 160-175 either on the official test or practice tests. Some of us are committed full-time to the test while some of us are working at a company, law firm, etc. We meet on the following date at the Gangnam station Exit 9 Wing Study Cafe.

2:00 pm-5:00 pm, Sunday

We usually meet and do questions from LR and RC. We match our answers and discuss why each one of us have chosen an answer we chose. The fee for joining the study is free other than paying for the studying cafe fee which is 1,900 KRW per person for each hour (5,700 KRW total).

If you are interested, please send me a message to my inbox. I will direct you further. Thanks!

Starting to stress out because my scores are regressing and October LSAT is exactly a month away. Scored 170 once and haven't been able to since, ranging between 164-169, 163 being the worst in the last few months. My original aim was 175 (aiming for T-14 schools) but after studying for more than a year, I'm just so tired. I feel like I have made so much progress in terms of understanding the test but my scores do not reflect this (although I scored 158 last two real exams so not reverting back to 150s is a good sign I guess). I am lowering my goal to 170 which is not a low score by any means but I'm afraid T-14 will not be possible for me with anything lower than this. What can I do to make sure I am able to score this on the real thing?

I think my main problem is not knowing what to do after BR and going through the wrong answers. I BR thoroughly and my BR scores are almost always in the mid-170s (although for PT 90 this past week was 168). I watch the explanations for questions I missed and I was unsure about. However, what do I do next? I have tried writing in the wrong answer journal the way to approach missed questions but I don't think they have helped. I take one test every Saturday and BR thoroughly but maybe I'm not doing the necessary studying and drilling the days between those PTs. The day I take the test should be the least hectic day, correct? At the moment, it feels like the most. How should I be studying or drilling on the days I'm not taking a PT? Should I go back to fundamentals, drill a question type or passage or take full section tests every day? Maybe I'm not taking enough section tests (I take maybe one or two the whole week) because whenever I start the full PT, it feels like oh shit what do I do now so maybe the section tests would be helpful in establishing good habits under timed conditions.

It feels like I am nearing the finish line but haven't achieved remotely what I set out to. Please help, any and all advice appreciated!

Hello everyone. I am considering investing in 7sage tutoring for the November LSAT but would like to hear first if anyone finds it helpful/beneficial before I invest in it.

I’m looking for a study buddy to hold each other accountable! I’m planning to study 30+ hours a week mainly evenings (7-10ish) on weekdays and all day during the weekends. My time zone is pst. My first diagnostic was a 161 and aiming for a 172-175 eventually.

Im looking for someone who can just work in silent with over discord calls, but also maybe chat and be friendly with when we want to take a break. (The presence helps a lot).

Add me on discord if interested! xtt#8183

How do you guys each approach an RC passage while reading? Do you do the memory method every time or write down a low-res summary? I'm averaging -7 and would like to be down to -3! (And ideally take less time doing it) Thank you!

After months and months of study! This was the last section to really come into clarity. Wanted to post this to let anyone out their struggling know that you can overcome that obstacle! Keep pushing through, and try different avenues. It took a combination approach for me to figure this one out. Very thankful to 7sage and my tutor for all the help.

Hi 7Sage peeps, does anyone know if we're allowed to use a monitor while connected to a laptop? Specifically, only the monitor screen will be in use, while the laptop screen will be completely off. ProctorU states:

"Multiple monitors/displays are not supported. If you have more than one monitor, you will need to disconnect all but one."

In my case, where only the monitor screen is on and the laptop screen is off, would that be an acceptable setup according to the requirements?

According to a previous discussion post, the user was told on test day that he could NOT use a laptop/monitor setup, despite verifying with ProctorU that his setup was acceptable prior to the test. That post can be found here:

https://classic.7sage.com/discussion/#/discussion/29956

Any answers that could shed some definitive light on this question are greatly appreciated!

I've put off asking for a lor for so long, because it completely stresses me out. I know it's in their job description, but I feel like my relationships with profs are too weak. I need to hurry up because I'm taking the October test... Would anyone be willing to share how they asked their professors for a letter of rec and what exactly to include in the email? It's been a couple of months since graduation and I went to a large school, so I'm not sure how to address that as well.

Hey everyone! I took the LSAT for the first time in September, and been very frazzled past couple of days trying to figure out which one of my logic games was scored. One was relatively-ish easy, the other...let's not talk about it. I know PowerScore usually goes into which ones they think were scored and was wondering if anyone knows how long after they usually get those out. Thank you!

STATEMENT 1: "A work of architecture, if it is to be both inviting and **functional...

inviting + functional for public use --> ~obtrusive

contrapositive: obtrusive --> ~inviting or ~functional for public use

STATEMENT 2: "Modern architects, plagued by egoism...

We are thus told that modern architects (because they let their strong personalities take over their work) are producing buildings that are not functional for public use.

Answer choice B states that "modern architects who let their strong personalities take over their work produce buildings that are not unobtrusive." In other words, they produce obtrusive buildings.

The stimulus tells us that modern architects are producing buildings that are not functional for public use. We know from the contrapositive of the first statement that if a building is obtrusive, then it is either not inviting or it is not functional for public use. Does it follow that a building that is not functional for public use is obtrusive? No it does not: that would constitute a mistaken reversal of the conditional statement.

Please #help

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Is the answer choice of a NA question supposed to be a necessary assumption only between premises and conclusion or it can also be a necessary assumption between premises?

Hello everyone! Was hoping to see if those who average -5 or less on any average LR section can drop some tips that we can all learn from! :) What can help someone averaging minus 7-10 bridge that gap to -5 or less?

Hi all I am trying to gauge my chance of getting LSAT extra time accommodations. Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

Back story:

I was diagnosed with ADHD as a

kid and was on an IEP from 3rd grade

until HS. I then insisted on not being on

an IEP in Hs it because as a teenager I

was very anxious about the stigma it

came with at my school.

I was prescribed medication for ADHD until

sophomore year in college but never

completed an application for

accomadations during my studies. I

struggled in college with not receiving

accommodations but still pushed

through.

I am 27 now and have been

working in legal advocacy and

alternatives to incarceration for young

people with open court cases for the

past 4/5 years.

I am currently struggling with the LSAT

and can never finish a section

completely on time because it takes me sometimes a few minutes to even process the text. I continue to study but sometimes it feels impossible to be successful.

I want to get accommodations for extra

time but I'm afraid I won't because I

went without them for so long. Wish I

could go back now and tell my younger

self to ask for help but we are here now.

Does anyone have experience with this

stuff? Wondering what my chances are

with receiving an extra time

accommodation? Do you need a new

adult diagnosis? I've remained in

therapy for adhd/anxiety since I was 13.

Perhaps a letter from my current

provider and past ones will be enough

without the history of accommodations?

Let me know your thoughts. Thanks so much!

Hi everyone, I just wanted to share some things that I think might be helpful. This is just my opinion by no means am I an expert, take it as you wish.

I took the test for the first time in august and basically lost it. My nerves totally got the best of me and completely took over, I could barely read. I bombed the first section. I truly thought all was lost for me and that this would happen with every test I took.

I worked really hard to get my anxiety and nerves in check for the September test and it definitely worked, I felt like a completely different person taking it and cruised through the test like it was a practice test. Here are some of the things I did that I think helped a lot with the anxiety.

I started doing 5-15 minute mediations sessions about every other day, just by searching mediation on youtube and google. Here's one that I liked doing. This really helped me get used to calming myself by breathing, which is really helpful for the test.

My proctor was extremely slow for this sept test and the whole process took a really long time, I know that if that happened during august test I would've been sitting there freaking out, but because I had practiced meditation, I was able to do a sort of semi mediation during that time which really helped. I also mediated for like 10 minutes about an hour before the test.

Another way that you can warm up your mind is by reading a few pages of a book in the morning before the test. Just a fun easy read or maybe one of your favorite books. This helped to calm/distract me the morning of the test and helped just get in the reading groove for RC.

food wise, I think food is really important to prepare for the test. Just as an athlete would focus on the way they eat a week before a big event, you should think about what you eat for the days leading up to the test. By no means am I an expert in this but I have done a lot of research and I really think this helped me but feel free to ignore this, we all know what makes us feel best.

I made sure the few days leading up to the test to eat a lot of whole grains (whole grain pasta, whole grain rice, quinoa, oats, corn) as well as carbs I consider healthy and like (bananas, sweet potato, oranges, apples, beans) and that I had enough protein and was drinking enough water.

The night before the test I had whole grain brown rice and whole wheat pasta. The morning of the test I had whole grain cereal (natures path brand) and blueberries with a protein drink. During the break, I had a few blackberries that I set out for myself outside of my room.

I also tried my best not to over hype the test this time. They say to treat it like a practice test, which is true but hard to do. I think the best thing to do is to get into this mindset like a week before the test, not the day of. The week before the test I kept my normal study routine, do not overdue it the week of the test! I also didn't tell many people I was taking it so I didn't get too many "good luck" texts, because sometimes I think when you know that people are waiting to see how you did and stuff this can make you more anxious.

Last little thing, the week of the test I did still hangout with my friends up until like Tuesday or Wednesday. It is still good to go to bed early and take it easy, but if you lock yourself away for like a week and a half before the test you are going to make yourself crazy.

(I also will note that I do think taking the test more than once can help a lot just because the second time around you will be more used to the proctor situation and as much as it is like a practice test, it always feels different on the day of the test so it's a good experience to have. But I get this is not an option for everyone.)

Hope this helps anyone struggling with test anxiety, it can get easy to get into a life or death mindset with this test, getting rid of these types of mindsets can go a long way for controlling your testing anxiety!

Hi everyone,

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I'm currently working through the core curriculum and like taking a break to read discussion posts about success stories, score increases, and study habits. Especially with study habits, I get excited at the thought of having completed the core curriculum and can take what I know and apply to PTs.

My main question comes for those of you having completed the core curriculum and are now studying without the guidance of the core curriculum. PTing is relatively straight forward. BRing is all about the review of the PT and evaluating every answer choice you're not sure of under an untimed environment. 7Sage recommends about 2-3 PT a week with BR so account for 2-3 days for that.

What are you doing when you're not PTing and BRing?

I see a lot of users talk about their study habits of 5-6 days a week. What does the day of studying look like when you're not PTing and BRing? Are you going over core curriculum videos? Are you reviewing vocabulary and materials that assist in LR? Are you doing drills and practice sets? Just curious of how you set up your study sessions when you're not dedicating most of your time to PTing and BRing? Thanks!

Hi everyone!

On Wednesday, September 21st, at 9:00 PM ET, we'll be hosting a webinar about "Pre-phrasing your Way to Success on Logical Reasoning."

If you're someone that sometimes feels disoriented by answer choices or are running out of time on LR, this webinar will hone an important skill for improving both speed and accuracy.

For this webinar, we'll be going over the importance of pre-phrasing, which question types benefit from a pre-phrase vs. which ones don't, how to do it, the degrees of concreteness a pre-phrase could have, and the level of flexibility they should all have.

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The webinar will be recorded, and we may post it on our site or on YouTube. We may also share the audio on our podcast.

If you want to ask a question, you should connect via a computer instead of calling in. We also recommend that you join the webinar a few minutes early and test your microphone.

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If you have any questions, please feel free to comment down below! I hope to see you there!

As the October test is fast approaching, I want to maximize my time and increase my score by a few points. I have a general sense of what questions I'm getting wrong/am unsure of and the reasons why I get confused and choose the wrong AC. My question is how much time do people spend reviewing the PT and going through explanation videos? I'm finding that I try to thoroughly go through JY's explanations but I feel as if I'm losing precious time to drill and make sure my understanding of certain Q types is concrete.

Hi guys. I already wasted my 4 chances of LSAT, with one score cancelled, before knowing 7sage and looking up to my 5th test this Oct but I have completed only 30% of the 7 sage curriculum and feels unprepared. Because all my previous scores are way below my goal score so upcoming tests are the watershed for me.

I'm thinking about cancelling the Oct LSAT but before that I wanted to make sure. My question is, if I took my first LSAT in June 2021 and 4th LSAT in January 2022, when can I take my 6th LSAT after taking 5th in October 2022? Is it 2027?

Also, if I decide to take my 5th LSAT later such as June 2023, am I not eligible to take LSAT until 2028?

It's really frustrating to accept the bad choices I made but I am really eager to get into a Law school and overcome this situation. Can anyone give me answers? Thank you in advance and hope you guys have good luck in your LSAT journey.

Hi everyone! I would really love some advice right now

I just graduated university in May with my B.A. I started studying for the LSAT late 2019, and around early 2021 I begun studying very sporadically as my Thesis was taking up a lot of time. Eventually, that same summer, I stopped studying altogether as classes and thesis work pretty much consumed all my time. I did a full honors program in undergrad, so as you can assume, I had very little free time to study for LSAT, and this became especially true mid 2021. Because I knew I wanted to take a gap year, I decided to stop studying for the LSAT altogether starting my senior year of college. Thesis was taking up even more of my time and my family opened a business that I helped out with 3 times a week, so I decided to wait until I could fully dedicate myself to studying for the LSAT to recommit.

Fast forward to now, I am out of school, and working part time in order to commit as much time as possible to LSAT studying. My gap year goals are to save some money, get an internship, and, most importantly, study for the LSAT.

I am currently applying to masters programs and want to apply to law school Fall of 2023 (Hoping to pursue a dual program!). This means I need to take the LSAT no later than next summer.

Now for the question: should I start the 7sage course from scratch? I feel like I have a general understanding of the test, and of the basics of each section. It's the habits that I know I need to build up again. I decided to purchase another LSAT trainer book because I felt very confident after finishing it a few years ago and figured I should re-read (and utilize those drills). As for 7sage, I never stopped paying my subscription because I was worried I might lose my progress, but now I am unsure on whether I should go over the 40% of the curriculum I completed or just pick up where I left off. I took quite the break from LSAT studying so I guess I am questioning just how prepared I am.

As for practice tests, I didn't take too many, because I wanted to wait until I could fully commit to LSAT studying to use up all the practice tests I have available. I definitely did a LOT of drills my first year of studying to compensate for not taking practice tests, but I had a lingering feeling my senior year would make it difficult for me to study for the LSAT which is why I left the amount of practice tests I took to a minimum.

I decided to shoot for the April or June 2023 LSAT, but no later. I feel somewhat confident knowing I thoroughly studied for this test before, but just need some guidance on how to get back in the groove of all of this. All the J.D. programs I am interested in are at schools that are VERY difficult to get into, so I am hoping to aim for the 170s range. As difficult as it is to score in that range, I'm hoping my previous LSAT knowledge and ample study time will work in my favor. Would really appreciate some advice as I work on my study schedule!

Thank you :)

Hi everyone,

As the title says, I’m looking for someone who is willing to peer review my personal statement. I have a very rough idea of what I want to write about, but I don’t have the exact words to explain my experience, or how it impacted me and made me into the person I am today. I am also a first-gen in law and a KJD with limited experience, which makes this process so much harder. In exchange, I’m extremely willing to peer review your PS!

I’m looking for honest critiques and advice. Please don’t be afraid to be harsh — I know my PS needs a lot of work! The idea I have might not even pan out. I am very early in the writing process.

I applied last cycle to T-14s with stats that were below all of their 25th percentiles for both LSAT and GPA, and was waitlisted at all of them, I think because of how great my essays were! I am pretty sure I would've gotten in with a higher LSAT.

Well now I have a higher LSAT score (75th ish percentile) and I'm reapplying! I used the 7Sage admission's consulting for my essays last cycle and I created some really AWESOME essays. I can't afford the consulting package this time around (I saved up so much to even do that in the first place). I want to reuse my personal statement bc its so good but is that a bad idea?? I feel like the admissions teams really liked it to waitlist me.

All of the webinars with former admissions people say to rewrite, but they're always talking to people who were straight out rejected in the last cycle. I was just waitlisted and like I said, I think I would've gotten in with a higher LSAT since I was so far below the averages!!

What do you all think??