Hi everyone,

I’m taking the October LSAT and I’m trying to map out my study time. Will the 7Sage course on LG prepare me for the LG section, or will I need a lot more practice after I’ve been through all of the videos and drills?

Thanks in advance.

By the time I apply in September/October, I'll have had a 1.5 employment gap in my resume. Since graduating undergrad, I've never had a gap in my employment and worked full time while receiving MS degree. But I'm a non-traditional applicant, age 30, and the recent 1.5 year gap looks pretty bad IMO.

Out of that 1.5 gap, I spent half prepping lsat full time and the other half prepping about 30 hours per week and doing food delivery apps in the evening. No volunteer work. I live with my parents who are extremely "high risk" for covid-19, which is why I stayed away from employment and volunteer work where I was in regular contact with people. The heavy LSAT prep was necessary for me bc of low ugpa (CAS 3.1), and being out of school so long really degraded my test taking skills.

Beginning of this year through the summer I was applying for jobs almost everyday, but was getting rejected left and right bc I worked in the cannabis industry for 4 years, and cannabis in state I currently live is illegal. The few jobs I did get offers for during that time were not better than what I was making with food delivery apps, hence sticking with the delivery apps so I could focus on studying.

The intense studying was worth it, I went from 140's to 170's on my last 4 practice tests, and I'm taking Aug 2022 LSAT. I also have a job lined up for September. But I still don't have a legitimate sounding excuse to explain my gap in addendum. I'm also already writing an addendum for my low ugpa (bad freshman year taking all the premed science course).

I feel like I'm pretty much screwed getting into a top 30 program being a splitter (hopefully august goes well), and having a large gap.

Any advice is welcome

Any tips with processing LR passages quickly? It takes me at least double the amount of the "target time" for me to fully process even the easiest passages....

Anyone have tips for overcoming the 150s? I have tried employing various different strategies and approaches to studying, but always end up getting low-mid 150s. I am not aiming high - I just want to land in the 80th percentile. Any insight would be appreciated!!!!

Please help, I do not get this question at all! #Help

Please give us the option to see which answers we eliminated/crossed out when looking at our preptest answer results. This would help us see our original thought processing when blind reviewing and when going over final results.

Hello,

My name is Ken Kim. We are a group of Koreans and Korean-Americans planning to take the LSAT either this October or in a couple of years. We have members scoring from 160-172 either on the official test or practice tests. Some of us are committed full-time to the test while some of us are working at a company, law firm, etc. We meet on the following dates at the Gangnam station Exit 9 Wing Study Cafe.

8:00 pm-11:00 pm, Monday

8:00 pm-11:00 pm, Wednesday

2:00 pm-5:00 pm, Sunday

We usually meet and do questions from LR and RC. We match our answers and discuss why each one of us have chosen an answer we chose. The fee for joining the study is free other than paying for the studying cafe fee which is 1,900 KRW per person for each hour (5,700 KRW total).

If you are interested, please send me a message to my inbox. I will direct you further. Thanks!

are old reading comp passages as useful for studying? i feel like the older passages use less clear language than the ones from more recent years.

I forgot about the ProctorU scheduling email this week due to various events.

Just found that no good slots available for the August test on Saturday.

I was trying to find something around noon on Saturday, Pacific zone.

Anyone in the same boat? Do slots open that one can reschedule? Or am I stuck with odd hours?

Hi there,

I am just posting this because I'm not totally sure how to get in contact with 7sage, or if anyone else has had this happen to them, but I purchased tutoring sessions early yesterday however I have not received any email with a link to a survey so I can be matched with a tutor. I am hoping to take the August LSAT and so would love to get started as soon as possible! Thanks :)

So I've got three weeks left in the Army before I start terminal leave and I've finally reached the end of the learning curriculum and the only thing that stands in between me and 4-5 months of PTs is the LG Bundle. As I finished up the last few LG sections in the curriculum I saw a lot of people were having the same questions, concerns and other issues with how to approach their LG studies and utilizing the Fool Proof Method and since I don't really have a job or much to do at work anymore I thought I'd offer up my solution and strategy to address some of these problems. I think the Fool Proof Method is awesome, but I tweaked it very slightly for my purposes and I think it could help some people out to employ a similar strategy. If this helps you in any way, please pass it along to anyone else who may be struggling.

Top concerns I have seen from other people:

1) I think 10 copies of every LG is wasting paper.

2) I don't have enough time to do all the LGs.

3) I want to know the categories for every LG I'm doing.

4) When do I do which games and how often do I do them again?

Before I answer these questions directly, here is what I've actually done to set myself up for success. If you were fortunate enough to get the LG Bundle before LSAC made it vanish, then you have all the games from PTs 1-35 which is 140 games. If you have anything less than that, just scale down what I'm prescribing, but everything should still go along as I outline here. I got a few 2" 3-ring binders and filled them with document protectors. I then began with PT 1 and printed out 4 copies of the first game (more on this later), which if you have the LG Bundle is 8 pieces of paper since 7Sage was kind enough to format the old LGs like the new ones with 2 pages and plenty of room to work. If you don't have this I'd say add a piece of scratch paper in with each game to give yourself extra space to simulate what you'll have on the LSAT. I then placed all 4 copies of the first game in a document protector and put a sticky note on the front denoting the following: PT#, LG#, and then a chart with 1st-4th attempts on the vertical axis and Date/Time/Score on the horizontal axis (more on this later as well). I then repeated this process for each subsequent game so that now I have a binder full of 4 copies of each LG, although due to the volume of paper you'll need at least 2 or 3 binders like I mentioned above.

All the information I collect on the sticky notes I will put into a very simple Excel spreadsheet I have designed to track my progress. If you've read this far and are still interested, feel free to message me your email and I will send you a blank copy of the spreadsheet I designed so you can use it and tweak it how you see fit. In a nutshell it has space to log the date/time/score for every attempt for every LG in the bundle.

The first attempt is simply that, just my first shot at a new LG. I time everything with a stopwatch so I know how I'm doing, but I don't set a timer because that doesn't really make sense to me since I'm working to standard and not to time. If you time yourself and stop then you won't know how long the game is actually taking you, so always use a stopwatch (I hope this is common sense at this point). So once I finish I record the date and the time it took me and I blind review and then check my score. I then record only the score I got while timing myself since this is LG and there is no way you should get LG questions wrong during BR since you can just brute force the answers if need be if you really don't understand something. If you're missing LG questions on BR then in my opinion there is something seriously wrong in your methodologies and you need to perhaps relearn the basics unless you just misread a question or something like that.

After recording the data on the sticky note and transferring it to my spreadsheet I watch JY's video explanation and go over the game and then I put that LG in the back of the document protector it came from behind the clean LGs and take out the second copy. I then make my second attempt, timing myself, doing my BR, recording all data, and then rewatching the video if necessary. I then make my third attempt the next day, and my fourth attempt I make a week later, always following the same methodologies as I did on the first attempt.

My thinking is that if I'm really serious about this, I should be able to conquer any given LG in four tries. Two in a row should see a huge time and accuracy improvement since it's so fresh in my mind, then the third and fourth attempts simply reinforce this improvement and the retention of the strategy. This also makes you more efficient since you know that each LG is simply a 7-8 day practice exercise. Trying to schedule out an additional 6 attempts to do all 10 copies just seemed ridiculous to me given that there are 140 LGs to do in the bundle. In my mind it's better to be able to develop mastery more quickly and then encounter a wider variety of games in order to make sure you're ready for everything. Of course, if there is an incredibly hard LG then obviously that may require additional attempts, but this should be a rare exception to the rule.

So to revisit the concerns I noted above, here are my solutions:

1) Obviously you're going to have to get over using some paper, so cutting that down by 60% should be a good tradeoff to help get you into law school in my opinion. And once you get your 170+ you can go recycle all that paper!

2) If you don't have time to do all the LGs, just scale down the above and do what you have time for. If you know it will take a week turnaround per LG and you can do 5 per day, then you know you can get at least 30-35 done in a two week period depending on if you take a day off or not. At this rate you could do more than 100 LGs before the June LSAT if need be (but you should probably be focusing on PTs). If you have to scale way down I'd recommend randomly picking PTs from 1-35 and doing all the games in that PT so you shouldn't end up doing all of the same kind of question and will get a better feel for the variability within a given test.

3) In my opinion you absolutely should never record the category of any game you attempt. If you do, it will negatively influence your work since you will know going in to use a chart or to sequence and group rather than just deducing what needs to be done. When you take the LSAT it doesn't say GROUPING GAME in bold type at the top of the page, so you should practice like its the real thing, which means no knowledge of categories.

4) I think I addressed this well in my strategy above, but it bears repeating: Make 4 attempts: 1st - Today, 2nd - Immediately afterwards, 3rd - Tomorrow, 4th - In a week (either a week from attempts 1&2 or a week from your 3rd attempt, that's your call schedule wise).

Anyways, I know this is a bit long but I hope it helps at least one person because as a longtime lurker I have gotten a lot of help from the community here and I wanted to try to do my part to give at least a little bit back. If anyone is still reading this and wants more details or wants photos of my binders or that Excel spreadsheet, feel free to hit me up anytime. Best of luck to all the June LSAT takers and to everyone else in your studies!

~Pacifico

P.S.- Though I am more than happy to help anyone here with any issues they may have, I will not send you the LG Bundle as that would violate both 7Sage and LSAC regulations. Please don't put me or anyone else in that position because I am trying to help people here and won't break the law to do so. Thanks for your cooperation!

P.P.S. - I don't check my inbox on here anymore, but if you have any questions you can DM me on Twitter @pacificosoldati and I'll do my best to help you however I can.

I’ve been searching online, but I can’t find an answer to this. I have guinea pigs in a cage in the room that I’ll be using for testing. Will it be okay if they are kept there while I do my LSAT and LSAT Writing?

If I feed them before the test starts, it’s unlikely that they will make any noise or cause any trouble. They’re certainly not smart enough to help me in any way. I’m just concerned that it will be a ineffective use of time before my test to move them to a temporary cage in another part of my apartment before testing.

Hi All!

I'm currently registered to take the September LSAT. My goal score is a 160+ (160 minimum for me to do apps). I've been consistently scoring in the 154-157 range for the last month. It seems I've hit a plateau. I normally miss about 8 LR, 5 LG, & 10-15 RC. It's obvious reading comp. is my problem area but considering I take the test in only a month and I'm just a few points shy from my goal score, should I try to increase my RC score or focus on perfecting LG since that is the easiest section improve on.

Also, any other general study tips are greatly appreciated!

I know we're allowed 5 pieces of scratch paper, but does anyone know if the test administrator will require you to disregard the sheet of paper used on the previous section? Or are we allowed to keep and use each piece of paper for all sections?

According to 7sage's automatic study schedule, I am to take 6 PTs a week starting next week.

Is taking this many PTs optimum? Or should I space them as 3-4 per week.

Also, how do I add drills into the schedule?

Im taking the Oct'23 LSAT.

Thanks.

Why is A wrong

Found it pretty difficult to understand and wrap my head around.

Hey everyone!

In this week's LSAT Digest, I discuss how to blind review RC—specifically to get better at reading the passage. Check it out here: https://7sage.substack.com/p/blind-reviewing-reading-comprehension

If you could use some help on the way to your goal score and want to work with one of our LSAT tutors, use this link to learn more: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat-tutoring/

If you'd like to talk to one of our tutors before committing to a plan, schedule a free consultation at this link: https://calendly.com/7sage-consult/7sage-tutoring-free-consult?utm_source=DF_C

Hey everyone, is it required to take my LSAT writing before my actual LSAT or can it be done after on the same/next day?

Hi,

I have decided to push back my test date and give myself more time to study. I saw that someone else had a great success with using the “teaching” method to get better in different sections. I thought maybe we can recreate this and try to improve. I am very good with LG with consistently averaging -0 incorrect on it but struggling with LR section. I thought we could use the teaching method to help each other improve.

What I was hoping was to have a day or two each week were we switch off being the “teacher” and try to teach each other a section of the LSAT. This would force you and I to be on the spot and convince each other on the correct answer for each question. I really think this would help each other to force us to think through the questions and hone in on our fundamental.

I am not sure if I explained this well but if you’re still here and interested, lmk and I’ll set up a group me or WhatsApp group chat to facilitate our study.

If you've drilled a problem multiple times, you can hover over the recycling icon on the "review results" page and see what answer you chose on each take. This is helpful, but it'd be better if it also displayed how long you spent on that question for every take. That way, I'd be able to finely track timing improvements on specific questions while, say, foolproofing a logic game. Thank you!

I'm looking to form a small discussion group to compare notes on strategies and procedures.

This is not a study group for going over BRs, reviewing fundamental skills, or keeping each other accountable. All those resources are widely available, rather I'd like to discuss the small marginal improvements in efficiency which will give us the edge needed to consistently break 170.

We'll do weekly discussions over Discord.

(Day and time TBD)

Please comment if you are:

Found it pretty difficult to understand and wrap my head around.

Hey y'all! I took the LSAT in June 2022 and planning to retake in October and I'm looking for a study group that also plans to take the exam in October. My time zone is in EST, but of course willing to meet at times that accommodates everyone and work asynchronously too!

I'm looking to study together live on Zoom daily and take a practice exam weekly (subject to change). If anyone is interested, PM me or comment below and I can add you to the Slack channel!

Hi all, I have a study group and looking to add a few more active people into it. We usually have section BR's on Tuesdays and/or Thursdays. Please only reply if you're on MST/PST so that the scheduling works with everyone. Just send a private message to me and I can add you to the group. Thanks!