Went from a low 140 diagnostic last year to a 174 for the June 2022 administration. 7Sage was 90% of my prep and I couldn't imagine using anything else. This platform worked wonders for me, and for that I am truly grateful. Seems like I will be closing one chapter, but moving onto the next - applications! It's been a wild ride, definitely won't miss it, but I won't forget it either. Cheers to all that just started or are in the middle of preparing for the LSAT. Starting is half the battle. Keep your head high, you got this!

Hi,

I was practicing making some conditional statements for group 1 by implementing the generic "all jedis use the force" example. Using the "all" indicator, I wrote down the following: "force users are all jedis". Based on the translation rule, this should make sense since jedis is still the sufficient condition (the idea introduced by the indicator) for the necessary condition of being a force user. However, when I read the phrase in plain english without concentrating on the logic, "force users are all jedis" sounds like it is saying "all force users are jedis".

Is "force users are all jedis" still demonstrating the same logic as the original "all jedis use the force" (J→F)? I'm wondering if this is one of those examples where the english language makes a statement sound different than the actual logic within it. I would really appreciate some help/feedback. Thanks

What are some of the ways you learned to study the different flaw types? I've been trying flashcards but I'm not retaining any of it. Any advice?

Hey everyone!

I've been studying logical reasoning for about 3-4 months now and been putting all my energy into it,

I noticed that I am repeatedly scoring around 18-19 questions correct out of one LR section that is typically 24 questions.

WHen I go back to review the questions I am getting consistently incorrect, it usually is flaw in the reasoning questions

the other questions i get wrong are usually because of a silly Mistake like leaving out an important part of the stimulus and not understanding what the stimulus is saying

What are some tips for me that can help me score atleast a 20 on the LR section!?

Thank you!

Hello all,

I recently took the June 2022 Test and am not pleased with my score. Compared to my other test in January I did improve but only by 3 points. 133-136. I know not the best and a bad score. But my score I need is only a 146. So I’m 10 points off.

By this fall, I’m starting a career job, and all. But I am contemplating a retake for a third test in the future.

I need advice though: should I wait and study longer? Since this last test I studied from February to Early June so almost 4 months. But this time should I take 8-12 months instead? Also, what other strategies would anyone recommend this time around? Mix of 7Sage, Books and a tutor?

Again, I think I am going to take a 2-3 week break to strategize a new plan with any advice y’all can give me and hit the ground running in August/early September

Thanks.

Hi guys! I've always seen people write this and I've always felt really encouraged reading them. I hoped I get to write one someday, and that day is today!! I officially started studying for this test maybe 10 months ago. I started with Khan academy: they introduced me to the lsat. It was largely a waste of time. And I came to find out later on that they ruined a lot of the more recent PTs for me (they use them in their lessons). I did not make much progress. I think my first 2 PTs after Khan was a 147 and 149 (not sure).

I needed something different, so I turned to Mike Kim's lsat trainer. Finished it in like a month. Got a low/mid 150s in my first PT after this. Much better, but my LR needed some final tweaking, so I got the Loophole. It didn't do too much for me, but it was the one source that straightened out NA question types for me. But my real Achilles' hill was LG. It was killing me. I'm talking -12, or worse a lot of times. That's entirely what brought me to 7sage around Nov. 2021. I got here and started fool-proofing, as J.Y (and Mike Kim and almost everyone else) suggested. I made some real progress and by March, 2022 when I first took the actual test, I was getting -5 or better on most PTs. Got a lot mid 160s, a 169, and a 170 leading up to the March test.

March test day came. I didn't do as well as I'd hoped on the LG section. Ended up with a 162. Truth is I was proud of myself, but also desperately wanted to do better. I mean if you offered me a 162 when I first started studying for this test, I would have taken it in a heartbeat. Long story short, I enrolled for the June test. I went back to drilling games again, replaying the same games I've played maybe 6 times already. Kept doing LR and RC. Took the test and waited anxiously. Checked my score this morning and I got a 167! It's not the coveted 170, but it's a score I am extremely proud! I think my lsat journey is over

This is entirely too long, but I hope someone finds something in it encouraging and helpful!

Just got my third score back and it was lower than the first two. I give up. I'm done with the LSAT and done with my law school dreams.

I was PT-ing around a 171-172 but I scored a 169 on the June LSAT. I know crossing the 170 threshold makes a big difference but I'm torn. Please help..

I scored lower on my retake (168) than my first score (169)

I studied for the first take about 3-4 hours a day/5days a week for about 5 months, after a 5 month period in between

my retake was about 2-3 hours a day 4 days a week for another 4 months

My first score was my PT avg the month prior going into the test

My retake was a total underperformance, as I was PTing around 171-173 a month going in...

I retook because I was WL at my top school choices... with my 169...

I'm very disappointed because I really felt confident in my retake especially with a better familiarity of the material this time around...

my LG was 0/-1, LR 0/-4 (avg -2), RC was -3/-6 ( avg -4)

I have used all the recent PT's and the rest for sections and problem sets...

I am definitely thinking about August with the deadline approaching....

How do I approach studying as I used most of the material with no fresh PT to gauge my standing

I appreciate any input

Thank you all!

I have always wanted to go to law school, but it mainly lived in the back of my mind as a dream and not a real concept. As a junior in college majoring in Marketing, I realized I wasn't anywhere near as interested in sales or marketing as I once was. I decided after months of consideration to start studying for the June 2022 test in January 2022. I went through the entire 7sage course and finished it in early April, then took a few practice tests over the following six weeks. I took the test in June and just found out that I got a 157! I am retaking it in the fall because my GPA is a low 3.3 so I don't think that will help me at all, but I just wanted to come on here and share a few things I experienced that is not typically publicized. This may not work for you but it has worked for me very well and I feel like I should let everyone know that there are many different ways to find success! I'm by no means an expert, just someone wanting to share their story :)

I took many study breaks during the time I was preparing. I started in January, and I am a Division 1 swimmer for my college team so I didn't have all the time in the world. I am up at 5 am five times a week, and I practice over 20 hours a week. I took a two week break for swim conference and the week after, one week for spring break, one week for final exam studying and a week for the actual exams, and many weekend breaks for formals, traveling plans, holidays, etc. I studied a lot don't get me wrong, but I made sure to have fun and relax when I needed to. I also really enjoyed studying so when I did I got a lot done at a time.

I scored 152-55 on my practice tests and got a 157 on the real one. Uncommon, right? Don't go in thinking you will score lower on the real one. I have always been told that, but personally I could never get myself to truly focus enough on the prep tests compared to the real one. I feel like others may be able to relate to that; common ADHD side effect. So don't worry if your prep tests are not where you want to be: there is a chance you will score higher on the real one. Personally I find it hard to focus entirely on something unless it is as serious as the real test was so I am not shocked this was the case for me.

I studied alone, and only used 7 sage. I looked over the book for a little bit but found it hard to stay focused. I did everything on my own terms on my own time and it worked out in my favor in the end. Again, may not be common but may work for some of you.

I threw so many things out the window when it came to logical reasoning. I forgot half of the A --> B methods by the time the test came around; for some reason it just did not stick with me. Maybe that wasn't a good thing but I felt it saved me time in the long run. I just went with my gut and my instincts.

Lastly, I practiced skills way more than I did tests. This may be obvious, but I literally only took three prep tests and one I decided to do last minute in my bed at 10 pm because I was bored. I find it way more helpful to do smaller 6-10 question sets and review those because it shows me more of a pattern of my mistakes.

ALSO: Something that is not advertised enough: Law schools are lowering their standards every year due to lower interest in law school. I have read dozens of articles about how some schools are now accepting students with an LST lower than 140, which before may have seemed unrealistic. Even if you do not meet your personal standards, there is a high chance there is still a school out there for you. Work on getting rec letters and having a stellar personal statement, and if your GPA or LSAT are low, take the time to explain why. This will stand out to admissions!

Again, this may not work for you and it may seem stupid but I didn't think there was any way I would be above a 153 on my first test, much less above a 155 and here we are with a 157. I will be sure to update after my September test, but I felt this was a good enough starting out story to share :)

Key takeaways:

Nothing profound; just my humble .02.

-If your goal score is far from your diagnostic (15/20+ points), give yourself at least a year to study.

-get a 7Sage subscription ASAP if you haven’t already.

-Do lots of reading outside the LSAT. The economist, foreign affairs, NY review of books are all great. I honestly believe this was responsible for most of my progress in RC.

-Be a stoic. You’re going to see significant fluctuations in PT scores. Your response to those fluctuations is key. I was ecstatic when I broke into the high 160’s, and devastated when my PT scores subsequently dropped to the low 160’s. By being conservative in your response to fluctuations, it makes it easier to avoid disappointment and psyching yourself out.

-The loophole is a great LR resource.

Good luck.

Hi everyone! I took the June LSAT and did not sign up for score review, because I was confident that I was going to score well. My PTs had all been in the high 150s going into the test so I was not too worried. Sadly, I got my score back today and I scored a 148. Since I did not cancel this score will this hurt me when it's time to submit applications?

Hello, I am a reapplicant this coming cycle and I am wondering if it is recommended to submit both a reapplicant addendum and a Why X essay or to combine them? Any advice would be strongly appreciated!

Before the January LSAT, I was PT-ing around 168-172, but I only got a 157 in the January LSAT. I thought of the possible reasons like being nervous, screwing up two games, not simulating the test environment, etc. etc. Before the June test, I addressed all these things except for the being nervous part. I was pretty confident before the test cuz I PT-ed 175+ (if I didn't screw up the tough game that may or may not come up). In the June test I felt I screwed up the last circular game, but I expected it not to be that bad cuz it costed only 3 points max. Nevertheless, I only got a 160 this time... only 5 points above my first diagonisis test...

I feel so demoralized and confused now... I don't know what to do...Since I'm an international student, October would be my last shot... I think feeling nervous was a big part in the test cuz I felt my pace of taking the real test was a lot different from that of taking practice tests. I don't know how to deal with it, or is there anything else I ignored that contributed to such a huge difference?

Non native speaker, international student. Did all RC and LG questions from PT 1-91 (many multiple times), about 80% of the LR questions too. Took 22 timed tests, put in about 500 hours while working full time at a stressful job in a law firm

Thank you 7sage, you’re truly a blessing.

To all those struggling, keep pushing and then push some more, you will get through! You’re stronger than the test.

Hi everyone!

I took the June test and it was exactly my average from PTs (166)

My goal score is a 170

I am registered for the Aug. test but don't know how to move forward with studying from now until then and am also running low on materials.

Any advice would be much appreciated!

Thank you!

I was just wondering which T14-T20 law schools ask for why statements. I have seen them come up on many podcasts and blogs about law school applications, yet most schools I've looked at don't seem to require or even offer any essays other than personal statements, diversity statements, addendum.

I don't understand why C is correct. Initially I chose D then in BR I chose E. Please help!

I'm looking to get into one of the Boston law schools (preferably BU, BC, or Northeastern). Had a 3.668 undergraduate GPA at a NESCAC.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated! Ideally looking to start law school in the Fall of 2023 or 2024.

Can anyone explain to me why C is incorrect and D is the right answer choice?

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Sharing my story as encouragement, as many others encouraged me when I read their words. I'm happy to share my news with this wonderful community.

I got rejected to the Dallas law school I hoped to attend this fall. I was disappointed, but for many reasons I applied very late (extra late - don't be me) in the cycle and received my rejection a few weeks ago. I was sad to be rejected in Dallas, but not too bothered. I planned to take the test again this summer, and apply next cycle. Or the next.

I'm a nontraditional student. I'm a former DC federal legislation and regulations lobbyist, 44 years old, and married with a very little girl. My husband is being transferred to another city, so we are moving in a few weeks.

There is a law school in the new city. LAST WEEK I responded to a generic email I got from that law school. I told them a little about me, said I was moving to the city, and asked for more information. I shared my 158 LSAT score, and that I plan to retake the test.

In fact, that 158 was such a disappointment to me! I genuinely enjoy the LSAT. I've had so much fun practicing for it, learning it, getting better at it. But during real time on test day, between my ADHD, high anxiety and weird hour long proctor problems, I scored 5 points lower than my practice tests! I did not think I'd be able to get in to a school with this score.

And yet...FIVE minutes after I hit send on that email to that law school, the assistant dean of admissions called me. She encouraged me to apply, even as I asked some very skeptical questions. It turns out that my 158 was competitive there, especially with my background. So, with her encouragement, I took a chance and submitted my application. This was LAST WEDNESDAY. She called me back before noon the next day. She informed me that the school received my application overnight, as it happened, in time for the admissions board meeting which was being held that very morning. They threw my application in with the rest, and the admissions board approved me! I was admitted to law school less than 12 hours after submitting a resume, as late as late can possibly be in the cycle. I will be sitting in a law school class starting August 22.

I've never heard of an admissions story like this before. As a person of faith, I believe this has happened for a reason. My prayers are prayers of gratitude. I also know that it would not have happened at all, if it had not been for committing myself to improvement on this exam, and seeking out the resources, support, and amazing community of 7Sage. Very unexpectedly, I'll now be a 1L in a class in Tulsa by August. Thanks to JY, my 7Sage study buddies, and the nonstop encouragement of our broader community here. Thanks to you all, and to everyone else - Keep at it! We will all absolutely get there.

Elizabeth, Taking on the Beast

I would like to offer help to people who are struggling or just getting started with LR over zoom or discord. My last 6 PTs averaged at 170, and I usually score around 0/-2 for LR. I am planning on taking the Sep or Oct lsat and I'm still trying to increase my score- so I am hoping that by helping others, I can also improve.

I have very open availability, so let me know if you are interested!

Unsure why E is correct. I chose B initially, then once I did BR I chose D. Please help!

After reviewing this question, I am able to see why the right answer is correct. I just am not sure why AC C is incorrect.

He clearly states "Hooray for common sense" which appears to me as a way for him to undermine the administration's study (which I considered as his opponent) and basically say that it lacks common sense #help

Greetings, 7Sagers!

On Wednesday, June 22 at 8 p.m. ET, I'll be joined by fellow admissions consultants, Jacob Baska, Elizabeth Cavallari, and Tracy Simmons. Each of us have served as senior admissions officers at law schools across the country. As a panel, we'll discuss aspects of the general law school admissions application and process, and we will reserve time toward the end of the panel for audience Q&A. If you're in the process of getting prepared to apply this fall to begin classes in 2023, you don't want to miss it!*

Register here: https://us02web.zoom.us/webinar/register/WN_zSRVkPXGQmq64dbCvjGfww.

*Note: We will record this session for our podcast listeners, so if you do have to miss us, we will share the recording after the conclusion of the event.