Hi all!

I am currently scoring in the high 150's and am writing the January LSAT. My highest PT is a 162, and typically BR is ranging around a 165. I would really like to score in the 160's in January, but reading comp is consistently a weak point for me, and often times I am scoring -10 or more on it. I have seen a big improvement since I first started studying, and used to take 4-4:30 to read passages and now am finishing all four at around 3:30 each, and I feel like I am retaining more information than before. I have been drilling full, timed, reading comp sets and seem to do really well on the easy/medium difficulty levels, but really struggle with the hardest ones. That said, does anyone have any tips for improving this score? I am thinking of maybe just drilling hard sets untimed until it starts to make some more sense to me?

Any help is appreciated!!

Feeling discouraged that my LSAT score didn't go above 150 in the November exam, although my highest pt is a 159 and average a 154. I don't have the money for tutors or these expensive programs. What should I do? my score went from a 140 original to 150 , so there is progress but I need to rack up 160 for the competition in the schools I plan to apply to, now for next cycle instead of the following one.

I struggle most on LG but feel like LR here isn't the most helpful (the teaching style).

Any advice and guidance would be much appreciated.

Anyone interested in a study group for February test?

Thinking we set up some weekly/biweekly meetings to talk through best practices etc

Hi all,

I live in DTLA and I'm planning to take the June or August LSAT next year. Does anyone want to be study buddies and meet once a week or once every two weeks on weekday evenings or weekends? We could hold each other accountable and maybe work through problems together.

I'd prefer DTLA or nearby areas like Ktown, Arts District, or Silverlake. I want to (hopefullyyy) score in the 170s. If anyone is interested, please message! :)

Hey everyone,

The title says it all. I'm hardcore struggling with LG right now. Specifically on in/out games. I would say I'm pretty good at getting the inferences of a game once a good base diagram is drawn, but I am not getting the hang of drawing accurate game boards. This might just be a problem for in/out games, because when I did the sequencing lessons I got the hang of those fairly quickly. Any advice? I know once I have an accurate game board, everything else clicks.

Any tips or tricks for drawing accurate game boards would be super appreciated! Thank you.

I've taken 6 practice lsats, My scores were 155, 153, 148, 157, 149, 145

I've completed all of the logical reasoning section of the 7sage course, what am I doing wrong??? How is it possible that my scores gets worse the more I study

I have met my LSAT goal this past Wednesday and applied 8 law schools in Texas this past Friday. It is time for me to move on. I thought about tutoring and decided against it because I would not have enough time and other commitments would interfere with teaching. Here is what i learned you have prepare to how handle the stress. Many do not prepare to handle that part entirely. How I prepare was making the PTs 6 sections. Every Saturday I would schedule my PT around 4 pm in the afternoon. But, I order a good lunch and watch latest movies on Blue Ray. I call it LSAT,Lunch and a movie. I did this every Saturday like clockwork. About 2-3 o'clock I would make hazelnut coffee in mug before the exam. It did help to maintain the calmness before the exam. When I was done with drinking the coffee, I would do breathing exercises and mediation for about 15 minutes. It always worked like charm. I didn't worry about the final number nor did I obsess with the final number. Instead, I just focused on skills and making certain that skills were at the top of my game for each section. I knew that LSAC likes to stick the hard questions in the middle whether is LG,LR and RC. I call it the drain stop because it is designed to slow you up and to keep you from finishing. Now, the drainstop I discover would appear someplace after question 15 on LR and would like more than likely until question 22. I would avoid the drainstop and come back to it. I would stop at question 15 and go on to question 25. I would work my way up to question 16. After I completed question 16, I would validate my answer to make sure they were correct. I did this for a couple of passes to make sure. On RC, I would save the comparative reading for last because I feel that it take more time to think about what is being said versus the regular reading passages. With LG, the drain stop would happen with either 3 or 4th game. The heart of the strategy is do the easy questions first and save the hard questions for later and allowing you maximize time. Also, it helps to go back validate the work to help alleviate doubt and uncertainty. Also, I recommend as you get closer the LSAT, try to pick movies that keep you feeling calm and not focus on the test at the moment. I would avoid movies such intense dramas or horror movies. Calm mind is a focused mind. do not obsess with which section is the experimental. You should treat it like a work order for work like in the real world. If you prepare 2 LGs and 2 RC with PT, it makes a big difference because you are not surprised and do not care about which the experimental. You just do it and focus on your skills and validate the questions after completing answering them. If you the score you receive go down slightly, it is good idea to focus on the skills and not focus the score. Your skills determine your ability to do well. Not the final score. If your score is going down, ask your self is it my skills or something like feeling nervous or scared and evaluate on the basis of that. If it is going down, it means that you are not ready. There is nothing wrong with waiting a bit until everything fits into place. Also, obsessing the final number cause you tense up and won't allow you focus as easily as someone who is calm. Just look on Reddit and Twitter at the people who constantly obsess with number. You can see as people get closer to score release. They check constantly like 5 days before the official score release.. They are wound tighter than a baseball. It is like being in room full of nervous Nellys. I decided that I would not before the score was release. The same thing I applied the same logic to guessing about the experimental section. It saved me from stressing about it. Secondly, I decided against revealing my score online because I wanted to remain humble about it and knew other. I saw how it made others feel online and saw that it made some feel less than. I saw one person brag on Twitter about his score and say this" F*&* U B*(&&es, I am going to law school". I decided I was not that way nor would do like him. I felt it would dishonorable to blur it out and make other feel bad like this person did. I do not like to use profanity. The score I received was very good and allowed me to apply to the schools all through Texas. I guess rambled on way too much. It is time for me to call it quits since I met my personal goal and move on. My next goal is buy law school prep course and materials. This is the direction I am heading. I bought my really nice leather brief case to celebrate my victory over the LSAT and went to IHOP last Friday to treat myself. I got myself Gingersnap hot chocolate and Apple Crisp French toast. It feels good to be done with the LSAT. It is more like permanent vacation the way I can describe where you can watch cheap dvd movies and enjoy the fruits of being done. My Saturdays now are empty in a good way. I am going to wait to hear back from the schools

Hello! Finally back in the habit of regularly studying, but having a bit of an issue. I've been drilling NA for a couple of days, but sometimes still miss questions. Should I focus on this question type until I repeatdly miss no questions in my drills or take a break and move on to other sections? Thanks in advance for advice!

Hello!

I'm looking for a small group of people to discuss and drill Logical Reasoning questions.

Anyone in the 160-170 range and taking the January LSAT, or another date for that matter, please shoot me a message and I will create one! I believe this group can help keep each other accountable and share helpful tips to truly excel at 4 or 5 star questions.

Hello!

I'm taking the LSAT in Jan of 2023, if you're interested in a mini-study group PM me!

I'm trying to understand why did JY break the "contrapositive rule"when mapping out the first two rules?

Rule 1: If 2 C's and Min1 L same vote --> both moderates same vote

Then as his contrapositive, he just negated the sufficient and necessary without swapping their positions? I thought we are never allowed to do that.

For example, the typical contra positive is (A -> B) and (/B -> A)

But here he did (CC L same --> MM same) and (/CC L same --> /M same)

I understand the rule itself. If 2C and Min 1L are in, both M is in as well. And if either there is no 2C or min 1 L together, then the two Ms are floaters. Is this correct?

Admin Note: Edited title. Please use the format: "PT#.S#.Q# (G#) - brief description of question"

Explanation Video: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-7-section-2-game-3/

I have been studying logical reasoning for quite some time now and consistently get -8 wrong. I have been drilling daily and reviewing the questions and making sure they make sense to me. I planned to take the January test but now I'm feeling very discouraged. I don't think I can get a great score with this. Does anyone have any tips on how to improve on this section?

Hey guys. I'm open to giving study tips for those who are struggling to break into the 150s. I have some good strategies for every section. I began testing at a 136, and I gradually made my way through the 140s and into the 150s. I scored in the high 50s for this last exam and I'm applying to law school. I got a lot of advice from people on 7sage, and I feel it's only right to return the favor.

Hi, I've been constantly scoring in the 155~160 range which I think I've improved compared to my worst ever lsat score 142. Recently, I tend to get high 160s to even 170 when I do BR. How do I close this gap? Is it just practice, practice, practice?

Also, I am starting to doubt whether it is even worth to continue studying. I feel like 170 is a decent score to apply for good schools, but I am still far behind. Any advise for me? Thank you in advance.

HELP

Hello, can someone please explain the difference between answer choice D and answer choice E? I am failing to see how they are different no matter how many times I look over the wording. I probably missed something or diagrammed it incorrectly, so I would love for someone to double check my work. Thank you!

The stimulus lawgic I wrote is:

/D --> J

/J --> D

D --> Q

J --> Q

Q

The lawgic I diagrammed for (D) is as follows:

/L --> K

/K --> L

L --> M

K --> M

M

(E) Lawgic:

/D --> S

/S --> D

D --> C

S ---> C

C

Thanks!

Having been on the LSAT journey for years, knowing how challenging this test is, and receiving support from so many people online, I promised myself that if I ever get my dream score (172+), I would pay it forward to others by helping them achieve their goals.

I finally did it... it's still surreal (all glory to God). I can help with the following:

Plz reach out if and only if you:

My diagnostic: 153 --> best score before Nov: 167 --> practice exam range: 169-178

How are important are these games for studying? Recently took PT 77 and I had trouble setting myself up for the game and got all the questions wrong and it took off a lot of time. Are misc games in the recent tests?

I took the November LSAT and I was not happy with my score. I scored 8 points lower than my PT average. I had so much going on and I wasn't in the right state of mind to be taking the test that day. I need some advice on how to study between now and the January test. What do y'all recommend I do to make the best use of my time? Prioritize weak areas? Start from scratch with the CC?

Thank you:)

I tried taking a PT on lawhub for the first time and think it’s best to continue since the actual interface is more similar to that on Lawhub, but when filling in results on 7sage for analytics I noticed that the order of sections between the 2 platforms is different for the same exam, specifically PT 40.

Which platform correctly orders the sections as actually ordered on that respective exam’s administration? Is the original order ever disclosed?

Many thanks!

Hi everyone! Anyone interested in participating in a personal statement swap? I would like some feedback on my personal statement as I really wanna strengthen it before I submit applications.

Can’t see the video, wants me to post a discussion first?

Hello everyone!

Looking for a motivated study group where we can hold each other accountable and make LSAT studying a little more bearable! We can review any question types, depending on each of our problem areas. I do want to pay particular attention to LR, as I believe getting insight into how others may approach these types of questions can be extremely valuable.

Let me know in the comments below and I will create a group chat!

I just wanted to share a sub 170 success story for us non genius types haha.

I originally used Kahn Academy and had a 149 diagnostic, I was absolutely terrible at games… like -15. Somehow I heard about 7Sage and have been on here for over a year and a half.

I studied hard for 4 months and got 154 on Nov 202, even a with strong GPA that got me rejected from all 8 schools I applied to in Canada. That sucked ngl.

In late June 2022 I decided to use every bit of extra cash I had, and some frankly I didn’t have(shout out Visa lol) and put off any extra spending on vacations, sporting events, etc. to get sessions with a 7Sage tutor. This frankly made a huge difference in my ability to hone in on strong study habits and motivated me when I was struggling to find it within myself. I can’t recommend James Marmaduke with 7Sage enough, he gave me drills, a plan, and realistic feedback on my goals. I wanted to hit at least 160, preferably somewhere in the low to mid 160 range.

On October 2022 I scored a 160 which I was happy with. But I knew I could do a bit better based on my PTs and that my 160 would be borderline to get accepted to my first choice schools I am applying to with 163-164 Medians.

I took November’s exam and got a 163 which I am ecstatic about! It’s take a long time but I’m stoked to go from a 149 diagnostic to a 163.

I hope everyone got the scores they were looking for yesterday and best of luck to all the 7Sage ppl applying this cycle. This has been a great resource and a big part of that is the community. Hopefully someone in the 140s reads this and is inspired.

Cheers!

Hi everyone! Live class instructor Julia here. I have a few adjustments to share with you guys when it comes to the live class schedule through December.

First, we will be launching a series of 4-week classes through December! For a limited time, join these 7Sage instructors in hyper analysis into the following topics:

Miscellaneous Magic (LG) with Bailey, on Tuesdays from 3:45-4:45pm EST.

Building Bridges (LR) with Bailey, on Mondays and Thursdays from 4:45-5:45pm EST.

Exploring Assumptions with Alex, on select Wednesdays from 4:15-5:15 EST.

A new permanent class is Chris's Office Hour on Wednesdays from 3:00-4:00pm and Henry's Logical Reasoning Analysis from 12:00-1:30pm on Tuesdays and Fridays.

There are also a few schedule adjustments (for the coming week only):

Aastha's Reading Mastery and LR Hacks class will occur on Friday, December 9th between 6:00 and 8:15pm EST.

Chris's No Stupid Questions class will occur on Monday, December 5th from 3:30-4:30pm.

Phew! That's a whole slew of changes. As I mentioned in my classes this week, we are always looking to add classes based on what you guys want to see. If you have any suggestions for an LSAT topic you'd like to see go ahead and comment below!

See the event page here: https://classic.7sage.com/events/

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