Hi All! Quick question? Regarding Lawgic and translation rules for group 3 and 4. I understand I need to pick either idea, then negate that idea etc. I am getting stuck at times if the idea I choose is already negated. Do I always remove the negation from the idea? I'm getting stuck in the rule of negating. Thanks for the help!

Hi, I applied to schools and September and wondering if a LOCI would do anything at this point considering i haven't heard back in 3 months. Or are LOCI only for waitlist.

Hey you guys,

I've seen some questions and answers regarding whether LSAT Flex can be taken on full-screen.

I was not able to find any answers on the other way around.

I don't have a laptop, but instead I have an 27inch iMac. My screen is too huge to have my LSAT page full-screen.

It would just be a nightmare having to move my mouse back and forth just to click on the next button.

For those of you kind people who have an experience with taking LSAT Flex (or however you call it now - at home LSATs with your own cpts), were you able to adjust the screen size to your preference?

Thanks for the help. I might have to find some ways to rent a laptop if the above is not the case :/

Anyone who has done or is currently doing the admissions course with 7 Sage? if so, what are your experiences? Strengths? Weaknesses? Likes or Dislikes? Comments? I am specifically looking for help on my personal statement provided by the course. I am contemplating purchasing the $200 package with the full course and the one time edit. I would love any type of feedback before I am make my decision!

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Took the Jan LSAT and was going -0 on games for the past 5 PTs!

Having major anxiety waiting for my score, and I figured helping someone else out could help me with my own practice incase my journey isn't over lol.

If interested, message with the following: your name, average on each section, and what time zone you're in! :)

Hey everyone,

Since the LSAT adopted the modern 3-scored-section / 75-raw-question test, the raw score to percentiles conversion from the old 4-scored-section tests are no longer accurate. Can you help us figure out the new conversion tables?

If you took the August, October, or November LSAT, please send us (studentservice@7sage.com or my inbox) an anonymized screenshot of your official LSAT score.

Here's the table that we've built based on student score reports so far:

Thank you so much for your help!

Hey Everyone,

I just scored a 16-high on the November LSAT (with a small proctoring issue), and am signed up for the January exam, hoping that another sitting will get me a slightly higher score. I'm averaging a 170 on practice tests, and that's my goal score heading into the January exam.

My strategy to prepare for this upcoming test is to try to really master LR, since I'm consistently between -3 and -0 on this section. I've noticed that when I go -3 I make a some sort of simple mistake on an easier question I know how to do, and then I get stumped by one or two hard ones at the end. There aren't any specific question types I struggle with, and I feel like my blind review scores are at a point of mastery - there's rarely a question I can't solve. The questions that stump me at this point are just hard questions....

Does anyone have any advice on how to consistently be able to break that -0 mark? My strategy right now is to drill the back 10 questions (15-25/26) every day, since that's where a lot of my errors are.

Anyone in Bay Area region (or anywhere else) wanna study for March? Currently scoring in the 140s. Mostly struggling with LR/RC and I recently started reading the Loophole.

I'm waiting on my second LOR, and I have a few questions.

Omg guys I am freaking tf out. I was in the middle of taking my exam and during the intermission I grabbed my phone to put it in the other room and when the proctor had me rescan the room she cancelled the exam because I touched my phone. What are the chances of the LSAC letting me retake my LSAT for January?? This was supposed to be my last LSAT before applying for the cycle so the next test that I would be able to sign up for would be in March which might be too late for this cycle. Ahhhhhhhhh I feel so stupid but does anyone have any insight???

This is question is for anyone that know the 7sage website. I want to take timed sections without going into the full PTs or having a section done without having to submit the whole test. Is it possible to do that or do I just have to use the Problem sets creator? Also I noticed that the problem sets are also timed. Can I do them untimed the first time around or is the untimed option only for BR? I want to use the analytics for the specific questions without having to do a timed section. Its hard to do that when I run out of time but I still have questions left to answer.

please share any information.

Consider this chain:

A —> B—> /C or /D

I understand Demorgan's Law Regarding Contrapositives. But how do we work with the 'possible worlds' this chain represents?, particularly w/r/t moving backwards along this chain.

I believe it means 'If B, then "C not D, or D not C, or Not C not D.'. If that's correct, my next question is what would require triggering the negation of B?

If I'm presented in an AC with "Assume D", can I negate B?

In my mind, negating B requires BOTH Not C and Not D. Is that incorrect?

Also, what can I count on, if I have B? In out questions require us to move forward and backwards on these chains. It can get confusing. I would think, if B, I can't count on anything specific, because we could have not C or not D or neither. Or it appears I can count on NOT BOTH C and D.

Thank you.

Hi I was writing my test this morning. This was my third time writing my test and the first time writing the test the proctor asked me where my phone was and I said outside and he said to go get it and put it in the room (so thats what I thought it had to be). Today, my alarm went off (I know I should've turned off my phone so this was my fault), I asked the proctor if I could go turn it off (by voice), she said yes but show me your room after (by text). I did. I told her where my phone was (Across the room), and performed a room scan twice (showed her my laptop through the mirror). 2 min later someone came in and said you weren't allowed to do that and terminated the test. I was confused because the first proctor said yes turn off your alarm, and so I did. I called LSAC and filed a complaint.

What do you think will happen?

I'm the sort of person who did pretty well in school. I usually only get a few questions wrong on most tests, and I'll review those and improve. However, the LSAT is different. I'm getting around 40 questions wrong. How do you guys not get overwhelmed/discouraged?

I was wondering if anyone had ideas about things to do in your free time or like on the bus. Does sudoku really help? I play a lot of chess and thought that would maybe help. Aside from that probably getting exercise would help keep your mind sharp.

hi everyone, I have never used one of these discussion forums before but i feel like i am losing my mind a little bit and am hoping maybe one of you could help me. i have always struggled with the logical reasoning section, and it seems that no matter how many practice questions i do or tests i take my score is all over the place and i am never able to consistently get 2-5 wrong. this is severely worsening my score as my other sections i am missing 0-4 questions consistently. anyone have any advice on how to conquer this section, or a new way to study logical reasoning/approach the questions? (seriously, anything would be appreciated!!!)

I sent all my applications in December, and I've received 2 WL so far (albeit they were reach schools). The other 10 target schools are pending a decision, and I wondered if it's too late to send additional material like a diversity statement to help with my application? I just thought of an excellent topic for my diversity statement and am unsure if sending it will be beneficial for my application. (I also feel very sure that this statement is much stronger than my personal statement, I just regret not thinking about this topic back then).

If it's not ideal for sending a diversity statement now, should I wait until I get WL to send the diversity statement along with a LOCI? Or am I just too late?

Hi everyone, so sorry for the last minute question before my LSAT in the morning. My anxiety is conjuring up all types of questions.

My mousepad says "But first, Coffee" on it and I wanted to ask if anyone has encountered a problem with not having a completely clear mousepad.

Also, would I be able to use my wireless mouse during my test?

Hey you guys,

My test is tomorrow (freaking out) and I've been on reddit... I've seen people talk about using ctrl/f or command f for the reading comprehension section... does anyone know if this is allowed? I want to make sure it's okay for me to do during the test because it'll def make things quicker!!

Also, heads up for anyone who needs this: you can use ear plugs during your test! esp if you live in a noisy apartment :)

Just some late words of encouragement for those taking the January exam. I tested in November and during the first section (LG) I was interrupted by the proctor 3 separate times, and not once did she pause my time. Because of this, I was unable to answer the final two Qs of the section. I was very frustrated because I was PTing at -0 to -1 on LG and believed I needed to match that on the exam to have any hope of achieving my goal score. As the next section began, I tried my best to put the disappointment behind me and focus on the rest of the exam. I’m glad I did because I remember feeling very good about how I did on the remainder of the test. And lo and behold, when the scores were released, I receive my exact goal score. Obviously, if you encounter some major issues, you are likely going to want to appeal for a retest. But if you hit some obstacles along the way, just try your best to put it behind you and focus on what’s still ahead. You never know, things might just work out in the end. Good luck!

Please someone help me figure out how to map out this LG! I'm so confused with the pet owners and non-pet owners and the apartments. Would this be a chart question? Or a group ordering? Question 10 and 11 specifically confuse me, please help help help :(

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Hola 7Sagers:

While anxiously anticipating my August LSAT score, I checked my LSAC account and noticed that the percentile of my May score shifted downwards significantly. Initially, LSAC considered my 163 to be in the 86th percentile. As of now, it declined to the 83rd. Prior to the insanity of 2020, a 163 was considered to be in the 87.84th percentile, per the 7Sage percentile chart.

TLDR: A 163 went from being in the ~87th percentile to being in the ~83rd. That isn't insignificant.

I was hoping people could share their scores and percentiles on this thread, especially since law schools and LSAC are slow to update their new medians and score data, respectively. This would help us determine where we are in relation to our peers and inform our decisions regarding whether to retake the exam at a later date.

Muchas gracias!

Admin Note:

Hey everyone,

We're trying to figure out what the most recent percentile conversion is so if you took the August LSAT, please email your official LSAT score to studentservice@7sage.com. Here's what we have so far:

180 - 99th (confirmed)

179 - 99th (confirmed)

178 - 99th (confirmed)

177 - 99th (confirmed)

176 - 99th (confirmed)

175 - 99th (confirmed)

174 - 99th (confirmed)

173 - 98th (confirmed)

172 - 98th (confirmed)

171 - 97th (confirmed)

170 - 96th (confirmed)

169 - 95th (confirmed)

168 - 94th (confirmed)

167 - 93rd (confirmed)

166 - 91st (confirmed)

165 - 896h (confirmed)

164 - 87th (confirmed)

163 - 84th (confirmed)

162 - 82nd (confirmed)

161 - 79th (confirmed)

160 - 76th (confirmed)

159 - 73rd (confirmed)

158 - 69th (confirmed)

157 -

156 - 62nd (confirmed)

155 - 59th (confirmed)

154 - 55th (confirmed)

153 - 51st (confirmed)

152 -

151 -

150 -

149 - 36th (confirmed)

148 - 33rd (confirmed)

147 -

146 -

145 -

144 -

143 -

142 -

141 - 13th (confirmed)

140 -

Thank you!

Admin Note: These stats were updated on 2022-01-08.

That question came up in a recent discussion thread and we were curious. So, we ran the numbers using data from PT 58 through current. Results:

Logical Reasoning, all questions (1 omitted)

A 337 18.95%

B 375 21.09%

C 365 20.53%

D 367 20.64%

E 334 18.79%

Total 1778

Logic Games, all questions (1 omitted)

A 179 20.55%

B 180 20.67%

C 173 19.86%

D 172 19.75%

E 167 19.17%

Total 871

Reading Comprehension, all questions

A 181 18.64%

B 223 22.97%

C 185 19.05%

D 201 20.70%

E 181 18.64%

Total 971

Logical Reasoning, last five questions

A 68 16.19%

B 88 20.95%

C 79 18.81%

D 89 21.19%

E 96 22.86%

Total 420

Logic Games, last five questions

A 47 20.61%

B 47 20.61%

C 46 20.18%

D 46 20.18%

E 42 18.42%

Total 228

Reading Comprehension, last five questions

A 31 14.35%

B 59 27.32%

C 35 16.20%

D 47 21.76%

E 44 20.37%

Total 216

Now that you have this information, what do you do with it? Not much. It's mostly to satisfy your curiosity. Some of you might be tempted to use this information to guess on future LSATs. Hopefully, you won't be in a situation where you have to blindly guess across all five answers. If you end up in that situation however, then sure, this is probably as good a guide as any to which answer to guess. As I've said numerous times before though, the LSAT writers are very crafty.