Hi All! I know there isn't much time left before the next few tests but wanted to see if anyone wanted to join a small group to keep each other motivated and to talk out concepts in order to reinforce understanding. Everyone says teaching each other is the best way to learn so looking to go all out in the home stretch. I'm taking Oct (likely taking Nov too) and I'm PTing in the mid-160s looking to raise a few points.

PM me or comment below if you're interested!

I'm pretty confused on this question.

Here's how I thought of it:

Premise: Alicia and Peter had equal blameworthiness for the same "crime" (using another person's car w/o permission)

Conclusion: Alicia should be charged with the same punishment as Peter's.

AC C is the correct answer, but A is the answer I originally chose. After looking at explanations online, I now understand why C is correct. AC C negates the premise by establishing that Alicia and Peter actually had unequal blameworthiness, so it can't support the conclusion that Alicia should be treated the same as Peter.

However, I am still confused as to why A is wrong. The conclusion states that Alicia should have the same punishment as Peter which is automobile theft, not that Peter should have the same punishment as Alicia which is a warning. So, that must mean that both of them being charged with automobile theft is more "equal" punishment than them being both simply having a warning. Doesn't this only make sense if being charged with automobile theft is more just than getting a warning?

In other words, if A is true, then we would get a conclusion that Peter should be charged with the same punishment as Alicia. But that is the opposite of what the conclusion states. So wouldn't A need to be false?

Hey guys! I am working through the cc and decided to try my hand at my first PT after the diagnostic. Does anyone want to blind review the PT 36 with me over the weekend. I would love to go over it with someone :)

Does anyone write low res summaries on scrap paper while taking sections and PTs? Any helpful RC improvement tips?

I really messed up the August attempt. It was my first ever LSAT, I guess the exam pressure and anxiety got the better off me. I ended up with a 148. I have been averaging a 155 and aiming for a 160 and above. Should I keep or cancel my 148 score? Please do let me know

Hello everyone, I’m in the process of applying for law school. I’m currently working on getting together my LORs. It was highly suggested that I get an academic letter, but I’m completing an online degree. Any tips on getting an academic letter from a completely online degree program? Or should I move past this and get a professional recommendation letter from my current employer since I’ve worked full time with them while completing my degree. I’m just concerned because as some of you may know, you have very little contact with your professors through an online program. Any help is appreciated! Thanks

Hi all,

I just did my first PT and scored a 155 with a total of -27 missed questions.

However, according to the score converter on the homepage, -27 nets you an average score of 159 on all recent preptests. I simulated flex, could that have affected the score conversion? Or is this particular PT I did just an outlier?

Any info on this?

The explanation video rejects option (D) simply because it uses the term "primary goal," then moves on without addressing this answer choice further.

However, the stimulus starts off by framing the question around the primary goal of an ideal bureaucracy. Surely then, the primary goal of the the ideal democracy would be important to understand and find an assumption to support?

I would appreciate any further guidance on why (D) is wrong. Thanks!

I'm planning on taking the LSAT in January. Will it be too late to apply for Fall 2022? I know most schools do rolling admissions. If I apply to one program and don't get a spot will it lower my chances if I reapply (early admissions) for the following year fall 2023?

Thank you!!

Hi guys, I am signed up for the Oct LSAT and it will be my first time taking the test. I want to apply this cycle. My practice tests are really solid and I'm hitting my goal score but I'm worried things will fall apart on test day. Should I sign up for Nov too as a back up plan? If I sign up for Nov can I cancel if my Oct score is good enough? Any advice appreciated.

I printed out a preptest, timed it myself and scored it. I want to upload the results online so I can see which types of questions I missed without going through the entire digital test putting my answers in one-by-one. Is there a way to do this?

Hi all!

I'm new to 7Sage (haven't done the core curriculum but have used the test scoring tools) and in a bit of a sticky situation. I just got the results of my third LSAT take and I don't know how to proceed. I started with a diagnostic of 166, which I'm sure was probably a lot of luck, but my official scores are 165 -> 168 -> 165. I'm aiming for something above 170.

My first test didn't go as well as I was PTing likely because I was pretty ill and I think I let anxiety get the best of me in my most recent take. I have a PT average of 171 and truly feel that I can do better than I have so far, but I don't know where to start. I've worked with a tutor in the past and while that was helpful, I think I've gotten as much as I can from it.

Would you all recommend going through the CC? Or would it be better to plug in all of my tests and build problem sets based on weak spots in analytics? Generally my LG is consistently -1 to -3, my LR is -1 to -5 and RC is -1 to -5. I'm also looking for a study group to work with in preparation for the November exam!

Thanks so much.

anyone know how to increase speed for the LSAT? I took a couple months break and it seems to be taking a while for me to get a hang of it. My brain is slow lol

Hi! I have the accommodations for paper/pencil format. Has anyone had this before, if so could you PM me? I have some questions about how exactly this format works! Thanks :)

I was really sick that day, and I fumbled my best section (LG), which has been haunting me. Otherwise, I know I would have gotten a 168+. I feel awful :(. I am out of LSAT takes, so this is it for me. I'm just sad. I needed to knock the test out because of my sub-3.5 GPA. At least I'm done with the test forever. Meh.

is there a way to see how one did on each section individually? I thought this was a thing in the past..

Hey everyone,

I am thinking of taking the LSAT around June or August. I am aiming to apply for the cycle after the current one (Fall 2023 I am guessing .... correct me if I am wrong please... I am still figuring it out). Basically, I am sending out my applications a year from now (end of 2022).

I need to hit a 170 and have been studying 6 days a week. I started with a score of 143 about 2 years ago... Couldn't study since then because of school and I am finally focused on the LSAT. It's become my main focus.

I was wondering if I should do PTs about once or twice a week until I am done with the CC or wait till I get through the whole CC before I move to PTs.

I am really worried that i'll spend 1-2 months on the CC and then find that my score is not improving due to not practicing enough.

Also, with the time I have to study (about 9ish months): is it reasonable to hope to hit a 170+?

If anyone can share their experiences it would be really appreciated

Thanks in advance

I took the LSAT in August of this year and scored a 152. My dream school is UGA and the median LSAT is much higher at a 165. I have a 3.81 GPA which is good, but I am now faced with the decision of taking the November LSAT which is in 2 months, or taking a gap year and pushing off the test to have more time to prepare. I would love to not take a gap year, but I am not positive I could increase my score in that little of time. I previously spent 3 months preparing for the August LSAT and was disappointed but not surprised by my score. I have always been a poor standardized test taker but very successful in school. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

This site is unbelievably user-unfriendly. I can't figure out where anything is or how to use anything! I'm sure I'll get the hang of it eventually but in the meantime I feel like I'm wasting such valuable study time just trying to navigate this thing. Is there somewhere I can go to do timed practice sections? Are there video tutorials on how to use this site? I hate watching those things but it looks like I am going to need to for this program.

I talked with someone in the admissions office at a law school, and they said I can apply twice in a single admission cycle.

E.g., apply in September 2021, and if rejected but end up getting a LSAT higher score later (e.g. in December 2021), I can ask for my application to be reconsidered in light of the higher score for that same year (i.e. to start classes in Fall 2022).

This is my first time hearing about something like this. Can anyone confirm?

If that's the case, is there any downside to applying right now, taking the LSAT after to try to improve my score, and if rejected, ask for my app to be reconsidered (assuming my LSAT score increases)? And if there isn't a downside, why don't more people do this?

My PTs are in the 170s, but that's because my LR and RC usually carry my scores. LG always, always, ALWAYS is shaky for me, and I think it was a defining factor in my August score. I can go anywhere from -1 to -8 in LG, and I'm always struggling with LG even despite foolproofing. I also don't have confidence in LG.

Would love to find a tutor who can help me strategize and prepare for the October. Pls lmk. Thanks!!!

After 6 long months of studying I took the august lsat and did significantly worse than I was PTing. I was averaging in the mid 160s consistently on every pt I took. After the august test I didn't feel great about how I did but I figured I just got in the 150s. unfortunately I only scored a 149. I don't know what to do I feel so discouraged that I paid a fortune for tutoring and spent so much time and effort into studying to only score my original diagnostic. How is it possible to average mid 160s and almost break 170 on my final PT before the test to only score a 149 and what do I do moving forward?

If anyone decides to help me out, please read everything I have asked because I feel that 95% of the comments I get don't answer everything I ask and I often leave with the same number of questions. And yes, I have already looked at Manhattan and Powerscore and LSAT Hacks and the comments AND the previous threads involving the same question before posting here. I always do.

My big problem with the 7sage explanation is that JY concludes that the conclusion: "no mark of success" means UNsuccessful and I think that is too big an assumption to make. My interpretation of the conclusion is that we cannot tell whether or not an underground group is successful or not based on sales alone because weak and strong sales don't mean the underground group is successful, even if weak sales is something these musicians desire.

That is why I had trouble picking B even though the premises match perfectly. I just have issues picking an answer choice that concludes both strong and weak sales indicate that the underground group is UNSUCCESSFUL when the stimulus only stated that we wouldn't know whether said group was successful from sales.

I found C incredibly attractive but it only does half the job. It does not connect the premise involving possible incompetency or the music being TOO trendy to the conclusion regarding how to gauge an underground group's success.

If anything here is wrong, please correct and tell me why it is incorrect.

Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-60-section-3-question-24/

Thankful for any advice you have to offer! I Just took my first ever LSAT in AUG and I scored a 152. This was without any prep programs, just working through the Barrons text book on my own, for a month in half prior. I just wanted to take the actual thing to know where I stood. Now I plan to apply myself to 7sage and take it again in NOV. With that being said, I know that I can do even better with an even better preparation plan. I have my one time cancellation option. I'm leaning towards keeping the score because it is a score I could apply to some schools with and could show schools that I improved (hopefully) on my next LSAT. Does anyone have a reason why a 152 first time would be best to cancel? Thanks!

Help! What would "A book will not give its readers pleasure unless it was intended by its authors to have that affect" be negated?