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I've been so focused on prepping that I've neglected checking whether things I've gotten used to during PT's are allowed during the digital, remote Flex test. Does anyone know the answers to the following?:

Are we allowed to have more than 1 drink on our work surface? (I usually drink both coffee and water)

Are we allowed to drink from that 1 (or more) drink(s) DURING the test? Or only on the 1 minute switching break between sections and the 10-minute break?

If we have to go to the bathroom during a section and simply can't hold it, are we allowed to (obviously taking away precious time from the test) or is it strictly prohibited, resulting in a cancelled test? (I'm contemplating taking urine and bowel suppressants to try to prevent this emergency...)

If we plan to be away from our computers for much of the 10-minute break, how can we keep track of the time elapsed? Is there an audio alarm for the break? I'm guessing if we're not allowed to use our phones or our laptops for any other purpose than taking the test, we're not allowed to set a timer on our phone clocks or on our browsers to keep tabs on break timing.

I know we can't use noise-cancelling headphones to deal with possible environmental noise distractions, but, instead, can we run a white noise machine in the same room in which we're taking the test?

During the test, are we allowed to touch the screen with our fingers while working? (I've gotten used to doing this with games.)

And, lastly, are we allowed to mutter under our breath while working on the test? I know we wouldn't be able to do that in an in-person test because it would be distracting to other test-takers, but in the remote format is it prohibited?

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Question 1:

For premise: A --> B

Are all of the following valid inferences?

A -m-> B

A -s- B

-B --> -A

-B -m-> -A

-B -s- -A

Question 2:

For premise: A --> B --> C

Is the following necessarily false?

A --> -C

Question 3:

From premise A --> B --> C is there any inference we can make that is necessarily false?

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With the test quickly approaching, there's pretty much nothing I can do at this point but make jokes about my deepest worries surrounding the test. So, does anyone feel like they have a strong feeling as to what the extra section will be? My heart is hoping for LG, but my brain is saying (and fearing) an extra RC. I think by telling myself I'll be retaking in October no matter what, my anxiety has been greatly reduced. However, I can't shake the feeling that I'll be doomed to proctor issues. What's everyone else doing this week to relax?

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Wednesday, Aug 11, 2021

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Hi,

I am writing my LSAT on Tuesday, but I am a bit confused about the process. Am i supposed to download the proctor myself before hand, like right now, or are they going to send it to me.

How am I going to access my test on the day?

Would someone please not mind explaining it to me??

Thank you

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Hi,

I am currently scoring 149 and hoping to reach 165 by December. I work full-time so, it's hard for me to study by myself and stay on track. Anyone here interested to study together with the goal of improve their score?

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Wow this is great response!

I am not sure how people normally do this in the forum. Any suggestions?

I am happy to coordinate it whether it's WhatsApp, Skype, Google or any other way to form the study group. Please feel free to make suggestions and how you would like to study as a group?

Thanks everyone!

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When you focus hundreds of hours in the old PT's and finally catch up, it's another level, but not a level of to train more to exceed.

It's obvious when looking at the meta-scores that for the LSAC too many people are hitting 170 so they are making it so absurd that some questions are bound to cause people to have issues. It's disturbing as well that they are going to remove Logic Games because people are "getting it". And it's obvious that when LG is so clear cut they won't remove questions nor have it contested, yet with new PT I see 30 - 40% answers right ON THE FIRST 10 QUESTIONS.

This test went from understanding the theory behind the questions to making sure you understand any upcoming tricks.

It's outrageous that you have to spend 300-400 hours to get 170s and then slip back to the 160's since God forbid law schools weigh 70% instead of 75% of your weight-in application.

And before people start to defend the LSAC, it's the LSAC that caused the pressure for schools to get this achievement mentality to 170. 170 doesn't mean top 10%, it's the top 2.5% yet schools will do absolutely everything to get into that 170 elite status,

It's already bad enough that Hispanics get average 146, now I'm facing this test like the ending of Glengarry Glen Ross , where I thought I had it until the realization that it was mere delusion.

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Looking for up to 10 other people to study with (sometimes) and keep each other on schedule. I started diagnostic at 152 two months ago on June 8, tests since then have been 153, 161, 156, 160, 161 and 167 in that order; I wouldn't complain to get a 167 again, but my goal is 170+. Mostly struggling with RC.

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Hi,

I have been taking practice tests since end of June till now, and I keep on getting -11 to -15 on LR sections. My LSAT is in October and I am quite nervous about whether I will be able to improve on the LR sections in the next 2 months, especially since I am going into my fourth year of my undergrad in the fall.

Does anyone have any general tips for me on how to improve on LR sections??

Thank you! #help

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I chose E and was very confident about it on both timed run and BR. My reasoning was, the first premise is talking about "legislation," and the conclusion is about a "trade agreement." I thought it was super vague whether a trade agreement should be considered a legislation since we don't even know who are the parties involved - it could well be a trade agreement between a few private companies and it would have nothing to do with legislation. I know I am making a lot of assumptions here, but I just didn't feel safe to assume that a trade agreement = legislation, either. E basically says the principle doesn't apply to the specific case of the trade agreement, but it turned out to be wrong.

I can totally understand why B is correct. But why is E be wrong? Am I just thinking too much? How can I avoid this kind of overthinking in LR? Thanks so much! Any help is appreciated.

Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-81-section-2-question-23/

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Anyone want to start a little group for people taking the test January - June?? It's a ways out, but being surrounded by motivated people could help! I've been studying on and off for the past year, but I recently started studying everyday for 2 months now.

Just reply and we'll get a discord group set up :)

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I am taking the August LSAT and was hoping to get some tips for last minute improvement on LGs, my worst section by far. I know this is something that should have been shored months ago but I can only look forward. Yesterday I took PT 83 and did very well besides LG, where I got ¡-15! Suffice to say, I had a bit a major freakout yesterday but now I am ready to get to work.

My current range on PT's is 161 to 166, I really hoped to be in the high 160's - low 170's but my biggest obstacle are the games. My avg's are (LR -4, RC -5.5, LG -8.2). Unfortunately my scores are a bit skewed because the LR no longer counts as 2/4 of the LSAT grade.

My current plan is to take one more PT at some point this week but for the rest of the week just drill logic games. I know it is the easiest section to improve, and I hope to get it close to -2 by the October test, but for now what would your suggestions be for quick improvement. Should I take the same tests over and over again until I get the assumptions down perfectly? Or take a wide range of LG sets so that while question types are similar, the actual details are different and I need to improvise my assumptions? Are there any specific LG types that might be the easiest to perfect and maybe I should focus on those?

Any, and I mean any, suggestions are appreciated as I try to bump my score up.

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Dear all,

How are we doing? I was just wondering what kind of career options is desirable for those who need to pay back law school tuition loan post-graduation. I am planning to go to T-14 law schools, preferably T-3. If I do not get into T-3, I intend to go to a T-14 law school that offers the most generous scholarship. Obviously, I will need to do well on the LSAT. However, I am just curious of whether how you all are planning on paying back the loan. My anticipation is that if we attend one of T-3 law schools, which do not offer any scholarship, we are allotted 200,000+ USD as a loan. Is it safe to say that we try to get a big law job? Or, do we just go for a job that suits the best of one another's interest (which is teaching for me)? My parents only funded for my education up until college years, and I have 50,000 USD as a debt to pay back to my parents for my master’s degree tuition. In other words, I would need to repay about 250,000 USD as a loan for my acquisition of graduate education (JD, MA). I am unsure of which career route I should research into to make my education business fruitful while efficient. Could you please share your insight with this?

Best,

Ken

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Omg I can't believe after 5 months of studying I'm taking the LSAT in a couple days. Newer LR questions are making me very nervous and I don't know what else I can do in the following days to improve my score just a bit.

Any one else feeling this way?

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Hey all. Getting ready to head off to Cornell on Monday, and while I expect to be checking back in from time to time, I'm sure I'll be much less present from here on out. I don't have a "here's all the stuff I learned" post for you, as that's just not me, but to leave you all with one thing: this test is absolutely conquerable... yes, even for you. Just don't give up.

Final office hours... open discussion and August test run-up - 8/8/21 @12pm EST - TBD. Apologies in advance if I'm a bit haggard... I'll be waking up pretty early to be able to do this and hopefully jump start my transition from Hawaii time to EST.

Google meeting link: https://meet.google.com/njn-rgvd-ouo - timed out... use link below.

2nd link: https://meet.google.com/hyd-swsh-zek

Edit: Thanks everyone!

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