Hi, I was wondering if anyone would be interested on joining a "Studygroup" plan on taking the LSAT this November and I'm among for a 160.

Hello! I am new to 7sage and the LSAT! I was wondering if anyone had tips, stories about their journey, etc. that they would be willing to share. I also would love to connect with anyone else that is new and would be down to maybe study together / contact each other with questions or support each other. Good Luck to everyone! Thank you for reading

Hi all! Wondering if anyone is interested in a Saturday study group 9 or 10am CT (depending on interest). Instead of wanting to reach a certain score, we'll be focusing on our worst section specific questions. :) Comment if interested!

Edit: Zoom links to both classes on 7/23 are below in chat.

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I notice that I consistently struggle with stims or RC passages that deal with econ subjects - does anyone have any suggestions of outside resources I could read/listen through? I want to supplement my LSAT studying with outside content on specific subjects since I find I kind of get paralyzed by econ based questions since I never studied it in uni.

I'm thinking maybe podcasts or articles/books to help me get more comfortable with the terms that often come up in those types of questions so I can hopefully stop overthinking them.

Thanks!

My LR section is my worst and most inconsistent section, ranging from 17 to 23 on any particular test. I really want to get it up to a consistent 23, but I'm not sure how.

Things I've been doing:

I take the LSAT in a month, and I've been plateauing on my LR for about two months. Any help would be much appreciated.

where can I find JY talk about this knock out vs sneak in method? I cannot find the lesson, I even already asked this question and then lost the lesson/wherever I asked the question AGAIN lol! Thank you in advance to anyone who knows!

can I see how long / many hours I have spent doing the drills section?

Hi all!

First off, I want to say thank you to the 7sage community and the various tutors that have helped me along the way, @Mike_Ross @"Heart Shaped Box" , and @BinghamtonDave . All of them have been invaluable in the process of “taking down” this test! Couldn’t ask for more.

I imagine some of you might wanna know how I got here. Allow me to explain.

Well, it started in July 2019 with a Testmasters course (terrible decision I know) and consisted of about 2 years of actual studying. To say that it’s been a rollercoaster of emotions would be an understatement. Since undergrad was fairly easy, I thought I’d study for 3-4 months and ace this test like usual. Boi was I wrong!!!!

It was difficult, I felt incompetent, & I wanted to give up. But, (I know, cliche) I persisted. I drew motivation from various posts here which pushed me to continue. Simultaneously, I began to search for other sources for help. The most useful for me were:

The Loophole by Ellen Cassidy

Khan Academy

Manhattan Prep's forum

I'll explain what from each of those sources were most helpful, starting with The Loophole.

While the book doesn't necessarily offer anything novel in terms of LSAT "theory", it did have 2 aspects that I found super beneficial. The first being how the book teaches you to find the assumptions in an argument. I struggled with this a lot before reading the book. It asks you to find the loophole (the thing that would ruin the argument) by asking "what if...this bad thing is true?" For whatever reason, asking "what if" after reading an argument helped me get to the assumptions easier. Eventually, I stopped having to do this as I imagine I internalized it and assumptions were just so apparent then.

The second element of the book and probably most beneficial to my studies was the translation drill. At its core, the drill asks you to read a stimulus once and then write out what it said w/o going back. This does two things: it improves your memory but more importantly, for me, it examines whether you actually understand what you're reading and it turned out I didn't. In my experience, it was a combination of reading too fast, nerves, and not being focused that were isrupting my comprehension. I had to force myself to slow down and to focus on the subject and verb predicate (I also tried to visualize as I read). The nerves went away with successful repetition.

Khan Academy

I was thoroughly pleased with their RC strategies. The most important thing to success in RC is that you understand the function of paragraphs with respect to the others and the function of sentences with respect to other sentences. The former is pretty straight forward so I'll just explain what I mean by the latter. Sometimes you'll come across a sentence within a paragraph that seems to not fit within the given paragraph that it's in. But, the thing is, it absolutely fits. You just didn't understand its function in relation to the rest of the paragraph. This is by design to confuse you. Your goal is to connect the dots to the other sentences.

KA advocates that you think of why the author included something, which is really just asking what the function of something is.

Manhattan Prep Forums

I'm not sure this needs any explaining. Whenever I felt I still didn't quite understand an LR question after watching a 7sage explanation vid and perusing the comments, I would go straight to their forums. Great written explanations there.

Those are the highlights of my journey. Of course, lots of drilling and BR and thoroughly examining my weaknesses on spreadsheets.

If anyone has any questions, feel free to message me!

And before I go, I just want to say to anyone barely starting off or if you've been at it for a while that it's normal to feel overwhelmed or discouraged. Remember, progress is not linear. You're capable. And with diligent study, you can reach your goal score!

I am not sure why the time on the core curriculum problem sets populates to unlimited time. Can someone please help!!

Why does the majority of 7sage PT's begin with the RC section when you select the "simulate modern" format? I don't want to begin almost every PT with RC. Is there some way to change this??

So, I always do really great in practice and drills, but everytime I take a prep test I just dont do well. I will go through 30 questions timed and get nearly every single one right while I am drilling different things, but then I sit down to do a whole prep test and get way too many wrong even though I know what I have to do. Has this happened to anyone else? Any tips? I feel like maybe I am not taking the prep tests as seriously as I should and not acting as if they are the real thing to really see where I am at.

Is there a difference between MP and MC questions? To my understanding, MP applies to arguments. Are you supposed to approach them differently ?

Thank you in advance :)

Is drilling mode Auto Builder not working for anyone else? I was so excited when this feature came out and utilized it for about a week before it stopped working. I thought it was a temporary bug but I haven't been able to use it for over 2 weeks now. Anyone else?

If anyone feels dejected by their current slow pace at LG, I am here to tell you it will get better. Below, I share how I went from -8 to -0 in three months on my LG section, which will hopefully inspire/help you out.

The Beginning: Before I get into the specifics, I think it's important to address the mental shift I went through a couple weeks after my diagnostic. After missing 8 questions on my first PT, I thought that correctly answering 23 questions in 35 minutes was simply impossible. But then I showed the problems to my partner, and he whizzed through the games. I was gob smacked, impressed, and proud! I was also, admittedly, insecure about my own lack of skill.

My first mistake was comparing my weakness to someone else's strength. In the back of my head, I thought things like "How will I ever do well in law school if these dumb puzzles are giving me so much grief?" The LSAT made me feel like I lacked this shiny quality of intelligence that someone could only be born with. Studying felt like a waste of time. Every missed question felt like a thorn in my foot. So, for a couple of weeks, I danced around the topics I was worst at, focusing on areas of less priority. Obviously, this method wasn't yielding any results, and I felt frustrated with my lack of progress.

But then I read a post on Reddit that changed my entire approach. It said that improving your score requires ignoring your sense of pride and/or shame. I cannot overemphasize how important it was to hear someone telling me to get my head out of my ass. If you're in the same place of insecurity that I was, I'm here to tell you to snap the heck out of it. You. Can. Do. It. The LSAT is a SKILL that can be sharpened, not a measure of innate talent or intelligence that some people either have or don't have. Do. Not. Give. Up. Improvement took me three months, but there is no shame in it taking longer than that! The LSAT isn't going anywhere. Quit taking it personally. Buckle down and focus on what you're bad at.

Here's how I did it:

April - May: After realizing that I was being silly, I bought the Logic Games Powerscore Bible, which was helpful, but not perfect. It definitely familiarized me with all the different types of games and provided a LOT of drills and explanations that improved my accuracy, but I was NOT fast enough. If I were recommending it to someone, I would say that it was probably a good place to start. However, I probably gained the most improvement from listening to multiple test-prep sites explain games in different ways and picking the methods that worked best for me. After about four weeks of going through PowerScore and using a lot of its drills, I took another practice test and got -4 because I ran out of time and had to guess on a handful.

June: I had to take a break from studying for a few weeks for personal reasons, but I came back around June 20th.

Late June - July: When I took my first PT after returning, I was SOO rusty. After a few days of doing more LG drills from Powerscore again, though, I noticed my skills returning to their previous level. However, I was consistently still running out of time on the LG section. So, I drilled at least 2 hours a day for a week using Khan Academy because I thought maybe a different platform would be beneficial, but it didn't seem to be helping too much. I was STILL averaging -3/-4 on each LG section.

July: That's when I sought out 7sage. I felt like I needed a COMPLETELY different approach to the LG than what the Powerscore Bible had given me. If you also used that book, you'll know it told you to write down Not Laws when possible. Because I had gotten 15/23 on my diagnostic test, I assumed that I had to follow the Powerscore Bible religiously (pun intended) and hadn't even considered deviating from its instructions.

However, I feel like writing Not Laws slowed me down considerably. For some reason, JY giving me permission in one of the first LG videos to NOT write the Not Laws was exactly what I needed. After a week on 7Sage and giving up on my Not Law notations, I've noticed serious speed improvement and achieved my first perfect LG section yesterday!!

Final takeaways? As you can see, progress isn't always linear or predictable. Try multiple platforms and see what explanations work best for you, combining them if you want. Be kind to yourself at the beginning. You're learning a new skill, not testing an innate quality. And lastly, practice practice practice. Don't shy away from the difficult stuff if you want to actually improve.

Has anyone used a virtual flashcard app? I've got a busy, hands-full life but have small pockets of time between shuffling kids around/errands in which I could squeeze in small study bites but don't want to bring a pocketful of old school flashcards everywhere. I could make my own and save as a digital file but I'd rather have something that could randomize them

Whenever I try to put together drills, the screen becomes more compressed and I get a notice saying I need to wait for the page to load or exit the page. If I wait the notice pops up again. Is there a technical issue, or something on my end? Thanks in advance!

Which section of the LSAT do you use a scratch paper? I think we are allowed five pages of scratch paper on the day of the exam. We definitely have to use one for LG but do you also use them for LR and RC too?

Please advise!

Hey everyone! I was hoping to form a small group of 175+ scorers to have weekly zoom study sessions leading up to the September test. Please message me if interested!

Hi everyone! I was thinking that it'd be a great idea to share at least one thing we enjoy about the LSAT and/or the process of studying for this exam. Finding the positive in something as important as the LSAT can really help boost morale.

One thing I've come to really enjoy during my studies is the idea of printing out an LG section rather than taking it on 7Sage sometimes. I do this when it's late or when I'm traveling. Something about flipping the pages and being able to cross off answer choices pencil-to-paper makes me feel like I'm really a student, if that makes sense.

I also really enjoy using 7Sage's analytics feature. I feel like its all data that has a purpose: to be turned into valuable information so I try not to make the same mistake over and over again! It's pushing me to not accept defeat and instead tweak my ways.

Looking forward to reading your comments!!

Hi all!

I have an official 166 on the LSAT from June. Aiming to score 170 or higher on the August.

Looking for anyone who wants to meet weekly to study!

Thanks!

is there any way to do a solo section instead of all PT?

I have been using 7sage for over a year now and ive barely taken practice tests.

Im having trouble concentrating after the first section.

Is there any way to improve or lengthen the amount of time I can study for?

I have about a month left and im not even sure how much ive improved since I cant finish a practice test.

I’m new to this site. Does this site actually give me every PrepTest released? And I don’t have to get anything else to supplement this? Just want to confirm before purchasing

I'm wondering what 7sage's thoughts are about not taking a pretest. What I mean is waiting to take a LSAT pretest/diagnostic test until I complete most of the 7sage course. I have never been a strong test taker but like anything in life I feel like with enough studying and understanding how to take the test I can do good. That being said I am only on most strong supported argument right now. Is this a bad idea? Should I just take the diagnostic or pretest?

I got a 167 on the June exam after studying since Feb which was pretty disappointing because I was doing low 170s in my PTs. I've taken pretty much every PT but am now not sure how to study for my retake. I was usually only getting 2-3 wrong on my LR, -0 or -1 on LG, and my RC needed the most improvement. Now that I have to study for my retake I have no idea where to start.