I was wondering if there is any statistic or if anyone can speak from personal experience regarding the number of questions wrong a high scorer gets in regard to logical reasoning. I understand that it can depend from person to person and that you can make up for a low logical reasoning score by getting less mistakes in the other sections. However, in average I believe that there is a certain range of logical reasoning mistakes that high scorers make!

Thank you!

I didn't think there was a good answer...

Why is D correct? and what kind of flaw is this?

"Faden presumes, without providing justification, that the evidence for a claim has not been undermined unless that evidence has been proven false"

but I thought we are not allow to go after the truth of premise?

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What is your strategy for determining when and when not to translate into logic while answering a Sufficient Assumption question?

Do you prefer to read the stimulus through and then translate to logic? Or do you prefer to translate into logic as you read through the stimulus?

The former is easier for me but it takes up too much time compared to the latter, which makes me loose my understanding of the stimulus.

I need a more time efficient method to deploy for this q-stem category.

Any suggestions, tips or practice habits/methods would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks]!!

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Hi, I just wrapped up blind review for a section and the only question that I got wrong and then BR correctly has a (?) next to its pin. What does this mean? I haven't spotted this in any of my other problem sets.

I'm looking to nail down my RC score, I just took a full timed section and went -8 on the whole thing. I don't feel it was my best performance (I was tired and my dog started barking midway through lol).

Anyways, I feel I could use some accountability here and am interested to see if there is anyone scoring within the same range (I feel like I usually score between -7 to -4) who would be interested in a weekly zoom session where we briefly discuss the passage and then go through BR together to pound out some reasoning and challenge each others POV's! Ideally I'm looking to form a group with no more than two others as I want to make the zoom calls pretty efficient. :)

I'm in Canada (EST) an I'd be hoping to meet one day a week in the morning/afternoon - just not evenings! I'll be taking the October exam and I'm currently working with RC in the 30s.

Could anyone explain this to me? I'm a little lost. Thanks!

I am wondering how to format my double major. I majored in criminal justice and psychology and ideally want to list both individual major GPAs along with my overall GPA, but am not sure how to format it. Criminal justice (3.97), psych (4.00), overall (3.86).

Why does C weaken the argument if the low-income individuals aren't taxpayers? Isn't the city councilor's proposal to raise bus fares only meant to help taxpayers?

Edit: Answer choice C says "all" councilors believe that low-income people should be able to take advantage of buses. Since it says "all" of them believe that, does that mean the portion of councilors who think city taxes should be used to primarily benefit taxpayers believe that as well? Is that why C weakens?

And I thought the argument made sense at first because it looked as if it would force commuters, or non-taxpayers, to pay their fare share instead of having them continue to rely on the tax-payer funded bus fares, but the more I read it, the less the city councilor's proposal makes sense. How would raising bus fares for everyone in the city help taxpayers? Wouldn't that mean taxpayers would end up having to pay more? Was the city councillor who proposed this measure thinking that only commuters, or non-taxpayers, would have to pay for the increase in bus fares?

This might be a really dumb question but I'm really confused. Since August is 4 sections - are they all scored, or only 3? And if so, then its out of 75 and not 101 (roughly), but how do we get our score? Should I be doing "simulate flex" or just keep doing all 4?

Thanks!

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Hello everyone, it's ya boi lsat_sus.

Today marks exactly 1 year since I got on 7sage. I started with a diagnostic of 148 (PT 78), and I remember thinking "fuck that," and began my LSAT process.

Over the past 11 months, I went through the CC twice, took ~20 PT's, re-took each individual section at least 3 times, and fool-proofed games 1-45. In the end, my average PT score was a 156. Fuck yeah.

Then I remembered a quote "insanity is doing the same shit over and over when it doesn't fucking work." So I switched my strategy. I listened to the podcasts, and decided to work with a tutor. I looked at my budget and reached out to Mr. Daniel aka @canihazJD. He just gave off hellaaa good vibes and yes, that was the sole basis of my decision - I'm a proud millennial, fuck you boomer (jk).

This man literally transformed my game. I spewed every single thought that popped into my mind (sorry Daniel) on every single question and he slashed all the useless parts and affirmed the important parts. In such a short time, the CC and explanation videos started making sense. I used to hate when JY says "who cares," but now I love it. It saves me time. "Holy fuck," I said. Those 11 months were not a waste.

After ~4 weeks of sessions, I am so grateful to have scored a 172 timed, 176 BR. That's almost a 20 point jump. Daniel literally carried me harder than SKT Faker in 2013, and YES.. it's a flex PT.. It's not a real exam.. it's luck.. i'm a 'lil bitch.. but a win's a win and Ima bask in the ambience of my hero's journey. My family's proud, my girl likes it (wink wink), and I just need to execute on the upcoming LSATs.

LET'S DO THIS BABY! THE LSAT IS SUS AF.

Hi! My name is Olivia and I just began studying again to retake the LSAT in October 2021, I’m hoping to improve my score from my previous LSAT in January 2021. Myself and two other 7sage contacts have a study group and are looking to see if anyone else would like to join us for accountability, help, support etc.

I am practice scoring just above the mid 160's and would like to get to solid high 160's by the October LSAT. If anyone taking the October LSAT is interested and scoring around the same range let me know through 7sage messages and I’ll add you to our What’sApp!

Hi, I'm studying the lsat in South Korea and was wondering if there was a tutor I can study with.

Hello folks,

I have a question about improving my LG score. I consistently get around -1 on my BR for logic games but somehow I always get 3-5 questions wrong on the actual test. Getting a good BR score does not seem to be translating into a better actual score. Does anyone have any tips for this?

Thank you!

Hi all!

1

For LSAT addendum,

I want to say at the end (in 3-4 sentences) that I will grow and discuss how I'd prepare in the 6-10 months leading up to the first day of law school. Is this unnecessary, bad idea? Do you think it'll hurt? The addendum is about 2/3 of a page without this language.

2

I have many schools on my list for which I'll be below median for both GPA and Addendum.

GPA by .1 to .3 points. LSAT by 8 to 12 points.

Would it seem too desperate to apply very very early? I have a friend who went to HLS who recommends that I apply asap.

He believes that I have a decent shot due to my unique story.

I can take LSAT once or twice more time but I dont think the score will improve by much. I'm about in the middle of my PT averages. If anything I'm going to try to take the LSAT really late in the cycle if I'm on the waitlist. Otherwise I'll reapply next cycle with, hopefully, a better LSAT.

I appreciate all your thoughts and input.

Thank you for taking the time to read this and respond.

I am looking for a study buddy/accountability partner for studying. My PTs are in the high 150s and I'm looking for someone in the PST. Please let me know if you're interested! I'm planning to take the October test.

I'm a lone LSAT studier and always see people posting on here looking for study buddies or creating very ~exclusive~ high scoring study groups

I'm genuinely interested in what y'all do--taking August LSAT so prob a bit late to join this party but just out of curiosity, if you've ever had a 7sage or reddit study buddy what did you do together? Review exams? Vent about LSAC? Moral support?

Hi everyone,

Foremost, I appreciate everyone for reading my post. I am wondering what I should do when I am done with the CC. I intend to do every PT. I am wondering what steps I should follow when doing the PTs. For example, do I take a timed test and blind review? Should I compile a wrong question note? Could you please share exact steps you took for approaching each PT?

I know that they are precious, so I don't want to just burn through them. Please help.

In arguments, we're supposed to take premises as facts and question the conclusions. But intermediate conclusions are both used as premises (to support the main conclusion) and as conclusions in and of themselves (albeit subsidiary ones).

So how would you treat them if you were trying to evaluate the validity of an argument? Is is acceptable to attack or challenge a sub-conclusion? Assume we have a weaken question-- would we ever see an instance of a correct answer attacking the causality of a sub-conclusion?

Here goes...

I took the LSAT, got a 156, waited a year and retook and got a 156. In that time my average went up, average before was a 156 and average a year later was a 164. I hit 162, 164, 165, 166, 168, 169, and 172 (once) the second time around. I had decided to just move forward and not retake for a third time but now that I am looking at how little money I will probably get, if any, I am worried.

For those wondering, I did practice in simulated sessions, didn't stop my tests, and reviewed each test I took about 3 - 4 times. I think the issue was that I took a lot of PT's in the late 40's - 60's range and not enough new prep tests. And honestly, I feel like the old PT's were easier. The 2 real tests I have taken felt considerably harder than the PT's and I choked both times on LG.

I say all of that to ask what should the plan of attack be moving forward? This time around I would focus solely on the new PT's and redo those I took in the past. But more than that, how do I prevent choking on logic games and improving my RC/LR sections?

Lastly, I had decided to not retake because I am burnout and frankly tired of this entire process. I am not sure that realistically I actually would do better on a real test. I almost submitted a score appeal but even LSAC say's "any differences in scores earned on practice tests versus actual tests are highly unlikely to indicate a scoring error" and I've read that people only marginally do better when they retake. So, I am also wondering if I should even do it.

For reference, I have a 3.9 and graduated with Latin Honors, and other honors.

The top 3 school's I want to get into LSAT medians.

160, 162, 168.

25th percentile.

157, 156, 164

The 164/168 is obviously a dream school. But I am thinking of applying ED, and I am a state resident.

I am debt adverse but honestly also LSAT for a third time adverse.

To prep for the August 2021 LSAT, I have been taking the 4 section PTs. Does each PT on the 7sage website have 2 sections of LR or does it rotate? Thanks!

Help. I'm kind of having a hard time distinguishing the difference between two question types' question stems. To me, they seem to have the same question stem except PSA question stems has word "justify?" and Principle questions don't have it? Am I right to use this approach? If not, how do you guys differentiate those two? Thank you so much in adnvace!

Hi everyone, I'm looking to take the October/November exam and am looking for some advice. Is it reasonable to think I could get my score up to at least a 170 on the test by that time? I'm starting from a 154. If it is feasible to be in the 170s by that point, how should I approach studying within that time frame? If it doesn't sound feasible, during which month should I take the test? (For reference I'm going into my junior year of college and will need the score by July 1st)

I am looking for what books are a good resource for improving RC. Already read the LSAT Trainer and the Bible and they helped but am looking for more improvement and timing.

Should we apply to a target or reach school for early decision? Does anyone know what is considered as a target and reach schools according to 7 Sage Admissions Predictor?

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