What up y'all,

Looking for a study partner in the low 170's who can study after 5pm EST and BR PT's together! I work during the day so that's the only ideal time I can study. Was thinking we take timed RC/LR sections and review those and find gaps in our reasoning when we get questions wrong. I'm free after 5pm everyday and I take PT's sat morning. hmu if interested!

Did anyone take LSAT exam on Hot Spot.

Hi @Juliet-- , and all, I know typically it is best i have heard to read all answer choices for LR to make sure you are correct and not being tricked, but are there certain types of questions (I think parallel reasoning for example) where it makes sense to just get to the answer you predicted/that matches, and move on to save time? are there are types of questions where you should just move on?

Same question can apply to RC. should you pick right answer, or go through all answer choices for completeness? thanks!

Is it better to spend more time on the questions in RC or passage ? And if so what is a proper distribution of time ?(i.e 4 min on passage 5 min on questions)

I started my journey a few months ago. started with he LSAT trainer and couldn't read anymore and then switch to 7sage. I feel I need something different, that does not involved reading. I already have enough reading with my regular school coursework. any tips, sites that are not that expensive? I looked into Princetown, they are asking for $1,500.00 for live classes, which seems a bit expensive for me, and would give it a try if I don't score well on my June exam, for which am still scoring well below average. :( any other ideas would be helpful, thanks

This afternoon I entered a rural courthouse out in East Texas and the sheriff's deputy asked me if I had a Bar card. If I'd had one he would have waived me through security check. I heard myself say, "Not yet." That makes me smile. Y'all. These are just hurdles. This damn test (which I think is actually really fun) - just a hurdle. The years of study ahead - hurdles. Passing the Bar exam - a hurdle. At the end of it, I will practice in my small Texas town. And I'll have a Bar card. That inspired me today. We can do this.

All I gotta say is... yikes. Well bellow my 7sage PT median. I had a troubling proctor experience and this is my first take, although I take full responsibility for my score (149). My goal score was a 158+. It was incomprehensible for me to even score in the 140's. Anyways, I'm curious how everyone is feeling with their scores. With this shaping up to be an extremely competitive cycle, there's no time to waste. I will begin studying for the June exam this weekend.

Any advance, words of encouragement, or personal experiences with receiving a score so unexpectedly low would be appreciated. As a first gen 0L, I don't have people in my circle to speak to about this. Thanks all!

Hello all,

I couldn't find any info in the forums but it's really helpful for me to read out loud during RC and talk to myself during LR. Normally I stop myself from doing this because you obv can't during the normal LSAT. BUT now that it's online and in my home I'm assuming I can do this? Just wanted to double check that the proctor ppl won't flag me for it before I get used to it.

Thank you!

Hi all!

First, I'm extremely relieved/grateful for the score I received on the April Flex (173), especially because it was my second take. When I took it in January, I had a panic attack on the games section and ended up with a 167, so after that experience all I really wanted was a 173!

That said, my PT average going into the April flex was a 177. I scored a 173 on one of the PTs I took between April and January, and it was my lowest score, but generally I scored from 175-180. So a part of me is thinking I have a decent chance of getting a higher score and why not try? There's a chance too that the medians of HYS will move up for the next cycle, and I don't want to count myself out. My undergrad GPA is a 3.92 from a good school. Since law school is such a huge commitment though, why not get the highest score I can to set me up for the best admissions cycle possible?

One other consideration - I've taken every single PT available, and done every single game ever released. So I'm worried if I study for the June LSAT, I won't have enough materials and may be out of practice since I won't have fresh tests. Is that a real concern? I also truly could not have studied harder for the April LSAT and a part of me just wants to be happy about this score and move on.

Thank you so much for all your thoughts!

Hi all, I am officially done with this crazy cycle (yay!)... However, I am having second thoughts about whether to attend this fall or try and get a 170+ / re apply next year to maximize my options. Before my official LSAT score, I was scoring in the mid to high 160's and occasionally scored 170+ so I'm wondering if I should take an extra year to re take and get some work experience ? If I R&R, my realistic goal would probably be 170-173 unless something snaps in me and I'm able to get higher lol

On the other hand, I have narrowed it down to two schools I would attend for Fall 2021 but one of them is a wait list and a dream school. So realistically, I only have one contender thus far which is UCI. I hope I can get into northwestern off the wait list but with all the moving variables, it's hard to ride out that waitlist much longer. I do love the programs at UCI and I feel it's a great school for me given class size, academics, clinics, etc.. but for some reason, my gut isn't 100% on any one decision. I feel split between R&R and UCI. At the same time, I'm slowly opening up to the idea of big law which pushes me towards R&R. I am not dead set on big law but I definitely know that I want to keep that option open. I have thought about attending and maybe trying to transfer, but I know it's not an easy thing to do.. does anyone have any transfer experience or success stories they've heard? If anyone has some insight or advice on my situation, I'd love to hear it. My mind has been a dumpster truck fire of a mess (I've been very indecisive and my head is about to explode with deadlines coming up)

Edit: I will say that the fact that I did not get into my #1 choice makes me want to re-take as well. Do I HAVE to go to that law school? No, but a dream school is a dream school, right? 😪

*For those who do vote in the polls, would some of you mind sharing why you chose a certain answer? I just want to see the reasoning behind the answers and some thoughts y’all may have. Thanks !

Generally,

(1) If a Q opens itself up to being diagrammed (the indicators are all there, conclusion has them too), diagram it immediately, or

(2) Even when the same conditions apply, go with intuition and what you "know" has got to be the missing link. If time allows on 2nd round, diagram to check.

I do the latter almost every time, but I feel guilty/lazy? Is this bad form? Are there any 170+ scorers out there that balk at doing this? I just feel like my intuition kicks in faster than a diagram.

Ps: I do normally get these Qs right, and that's the only reason why I'm not referring to my intuition as pure luck.

Thanks!!

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Thanks for reading, everyone!

I scored 152 on April, 155 in Jan.

So many emotions, so much to process. I had my eyes set on T-14 but I'm feeling really stupid right now.

I'm signed up for June but debating whether I should push it back to Aug.

I wanted to apply in September, however, and I'm not sure how I'll do with the experimental section. I also don't feel very confident about how much I can improve over the next few months. The highest I've scored on timed-PT is 161 with highest BR score of 171.

Currently, I have a 9-5 job at Estate Planning firm that's really laid-back with manageable workload (good culture, people are nice, less hours and stress). This job is 5 minutes commute.

VS

I have job offers from 2 other firms with higher pay that's 20, 40 minute-commute with likely 9-6:30 schedule. Sometimes I'd even have to work weekends in these positions but the work will be more interesting (Personal Injury and other, patent).

I was going to accept one of these offers to build on my resume. I thought it'd be good to show that I've worked in various fields to express interest but it will take my time away from studying for sure.

I guess my questions are:

1. Would Aug LSAT be too late for me to send applications in Mid-September??

2. Do you think I should keep my current job and focus on studying even at the risk of not improving very much? I'd been studying from May 2020 to Present (about 11 months).

If you have any advice they will be greatly appreciated.

I'll spend the rest of the day licking my wounds. Hopefully I'll garner enough strength tomorrow to get back up and start studying again instead of feeling sorry for myself.

Thanks in advance.

Update: Does anyone think that I should take both June and Aug? I'll be taking it 4 times.. Some people say that schools only take the highest if you take it 3 times or less but not otherwise.

Hi everyone! Does anyone have benchmarks to hit for pacing in each of the sections? At what minute mark should one aim to be at the end of 10 LR questions, 20 questions? At what minute mark should we look to be at the end of the first RC passage and it’s questions, the second, etc? And similarly for games? Of course, it depends on question/passage difficulty, target scores, etc., but benchmarks to aim for would be very helpful. If this has been discussed elsewhere, sorry for the repeat, would someone be able to point me to it? Thank you to the 7Sage community!

Where would you place these 4 things?

Unpaid internships during undergrad, not for credit

Student newspaper where I was paid for what I wrote

Leadership position with the union where I work (volunteer)

Volunteering to coordinate internship program where I work

Thanks in advance!

Hi everyone,

Wondering if some of you who have gone through admissions process might be able to chime in here? April LSAT Flex scores just released and I scored substantially (5+ points) lower than my PT average. I'm already signed up and plan to retake in June.

I'm a first-time test taker and had a horrendous time getting ProctorU to function on my prehistoric MacBook Pro. Spent 1 hour or so on tech support call before beginning exam, which rattled me to say the least!

I have Score Preview option available so cancelling is a possibility but I've seen mixed advice on how a cancel looks to ad comms when you apply. The score in question is not bad (166) but I've scored higher than this on every PT I've taken (I've been religious about simulating actual test day conditions on each PT so I don't think this is a huge factor...) I also don't want to wreck my chances at a T14, especially in a cycle as competitive as this fall's likely will be.

Would appreciate this community's guidance as I think about how to move forward.

Hi all! I'm taking the June test in the hopes of getting off 2 waitlists, and I really want a 174. I got a 170 last June, 166 in late August, and my weakness was pretty clearly overconfidence on LG: I'd do well on games at home, but shut down completely on test day when the questions didn't look exactly like I expected. Looking for a few people at a similar level to keep each other accountable these last few weeks and help each other shave off those last stubborn minutes on games!

Hi everyone,

I'm new to 7sage. I completed the Blueprint course but ended up with a 160 on the April Flex. My goal is to score 167+ in August. I'm looking for some advice about how to best use 7sage... should i just go through all the core curriculum even though I know the basics? Do I just focus on the harder question types? Thanks!!

Hello! I have been having issues with finishing RC on time. I used to go over 15 minutes. I have managed to go over the time limit by 5 minutes and am struggling to finish all the questions on time. I usually barely have time to finish the last passage. I was wondering if anyone had tips on how to speed up on RC? I tend to spend an average of 50 seconds, leaving me around 12 minutes for reading all the passages. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to read faster? How to determine when to skip questions? If it is a good idea to start reading a passage that covers a subject that you tend to find more difficult? Is it a good idea to stop writing notes on a separate piece of paper about main points in each paragraph? Alternatively, if it is a good idea to write notes about each paragraph, what specific details should I limit my writing to? Any advice would be of great help!

So the LSAT April results are out and I scored a 166 - as an int'l student, should I try applying? Or is it better if I continue on to June? Advice/suggestions are welcome!

I was rather late to the "I think I want to go to law school" train, and I graduate in the spring of 2022, meaning I am looking to apply for this coming cycle. I have a fantastic GPA but am PTing around a 155 atm. Still fortunate for all of the testing my highschool forced me to do.

I am just a bit worried about what test I should take. I worry that signing up to take June is a bit of an overkill, and that I would be best just working hard for my best score in August. BUT that will have been my first time, and on the off chance I BOMB the August test and need to retake it, I don't know how trying to retake the LSAT in October will go when the semester is in full swing. Furthermore, is that enough time to get my applications in early and set? I am aiming to have every application in before thanksgiving. Thankful for any advice!

PT81.S2.Q22

Older tests actually tested logic. These new tests just rewards your ability to weed through a pile of sh!t and narrow it down to the least pile of sh!t. It's like the test writers are abusing the word "most weakens," "most support," etc...

It's like "hey, here are 5 horrible answers, choose the least horrible."

Now why would an answer about your twin justify as a weakner?

Is this some new strategy we're to expect?

Hey 7sage community,

About a month ago, I started off at a 145 diagnostic. 2 weeks ago I was able to get my score up to a 161 on PT 37, but it dropped to a 152 on PT 38 then to 145 on PT 39!

I'm always -5 or less on LG, but I've been getting wrecked on Logical Reasoning and Reading Comprehension.

Most of the time I can't even follow what the LR passage is saying and mix up the premises and sub-conclusions. On RC I'll get a perfect on one passage, then bomb the next.

Has anyone overcome a similar situation? My goal is 170 but obviously some work needs to be done.

Hi everyone,

Just had a major last-minute rearrangement of my tutoring calendar, so I'm copying @canihazJD from a few weeks back and holding impromptu office hours to fill some time.

I'll be around until probably 5/5:30pm Eastern or so (or whenever I feel like stopping). I'll probably be fiddling a bit with my new phone and smartwatch, but I'm happy to talk LSAT while doing it. All are welcome, ask me anything.

Google Meet link (I don't have Zoom premium and don't feel like restarting the call every 40 minutes): DONE!

Lots of good questions and fun conversation. Thanks to everyone that came. I'll try to do this again sometime, hopefully without the last minute emergency cancellation to prompt it. Now go study!

Hello folks,

I have a quick question for you concerning this Weakening Except question. I understand why A is right, and I always pick A when I come across this question. But I'm trying to have a solid understanding of why other ACs are wrong, and I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around E.

Social interaction interaction of the kind not engaged in by depressed people is known to stimulate left lobe activity. Isn't it somewhat consistent with the stimulus that states that depressed people don't have much left lobe activity? I see a link depressed leads to no social interaction (as it is a result of depression), which leads to poor left lobe activity.

I know E is supposed to weaken the argument, so I'm trying to see how it does it to not be tempted by the wrong answer in a similar question.

Thank you,

KTC

https://classic.7sage.com/lsat_explanations/lsat-28-section-1-question-23/