Hola all I'm Mark I got a 169 in October and had around 20 apps ready to fire away as soon as I got my test results back. I'd like to share my results so far as well as some waitlist management advice. I've been obsessing about getting off the waitlist and have done a ludicrous amount of research (research sounds better than obsession).

I am what the Dean of admissions at Yale called a "super soft" aka military veteran and my ugpa was 3.42 which is notably low for t14.

Accepted with scholarship: Uga, Emory, Notre Dame

Denied: Harvard, Chicago, Cornell, Berkeley

Waitlist: UCLA, Georgetown, Northwestern, Penn, Michigan

My top choice is Northwestern and I'm doing everything in my control to get off their waitlist. Ultimately it will come down to how their class looks after their first and second deposit deadlines and what they class needs in terms of student demographic composition, and what the school's/Dean's goals are for that class (based on interviews I've listened to from Deans admissions officers etc).

Here is my waitlist advice I've gleaned from Harvard and Yale Deans, Michigan ad com officers, Harvard as com person, Michigan person, + my personal interactions with adcom.

Waitlist: do whatever the school asks in their waitlist email. Every 3-4 weeks and especially just after/before their deposit deadline write a letter of continued interest loci. You can print and handsign then upload as a PDF. Some schools don't care about loci format others may. In loci you can specify certain clinics, work programs, professors, courses that you're interested in. It really looks good if those are linked to a topic you expressed interest in in a PS or resume. Show how you love the city / want to live in the school's area. If you have a specific reason you like the school mention it. If it's your #1 pick and you would attend no matter what, say so. Be careful mentioning other competing offers - comes off as threat.

That's not exhaustive but it's a pretty good start. Best of luck!

Hey guys,

So I just started taking pts and doing blind reviews. It took me 5 days to solve and complete blind review pt1. but I think i can do two PTs a week. how many pt a week js realistic? I am doing lsat full tjme. And my goal is to take the october tesr. thank yyou!!!

Hello everyone!!

I am back offering LG assistance. DM if interested

The remote version was harder for me because:

RC makes up a larger portion; not only did I do significantly better on LR, my 2nd LR was almost always better than my first (more warmed up, I guess).

I enjoy walking into a testing environment and feeling pressure to perform in that space. It's just not as easy to get adrenaline/energy up alone in the area I've been captive in for hundreds of days.

Reading on-screen can be an issue. Tracking with a finger on paper helps improve reading speed. Someone also quoted me that reading on screen is 33% slower on average. Circle back to point 1.

Chime in with your own reasons (disagreeing is ok, too!)!

For those interested in an extra data point, here was my cycle. nURM, average applicant, 16high 3.6low.

ASU- $$+

Fordham- $$+

GULC- dong

Cornell- dong

USC- WL

BU- WL

NDLS- WL

UT- WL

UMN- $$$

UF- $$$+

WUSTL- WL

UGA- $$$

Boulder- $$

I'm withdrawing all my applications.

To be honest, I was in a hurry to become a white-collar working professional and make a respectable salary. Not everyone (least of all the KJDs with zero experience in the labor force) would want to work in a law office 40+ hours a week, which is why I recommend taking a gap year to test the waters. Imagine doing something you hate AND having 6-figure debt to your name :( it doesn't have to be that way. There are many other professions that pay better than law, have better work environments and have serious shortages of smart, driven candidates who can get the job done. It's never too late to make that change (not in my experience, at least).

I wish you all the best!!!

I recently asked one more professor to write me a letter of recommendation. She wrote and sent it to me around mid Feb. If I plan to apply for admissions again this Oct/Nov, will it be okay to reuse the letter of recommendation without needing to ask to reuse?

My brain melted trying to understand AC A..

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I am a bit confused on the benefit of score preview for first time test takers. I understand that you can have the score cancelled if you pay the $45/$75 fee, but what is the benefit of cancelling the score? I guess my question is, if something were to go wildly wrong with your LSAT experience (internet issues, proctor U issues, etc) would LSAC allow you the option to cancel that score without purchasing the score preview? I cannot see myself cancelling my first time score unless something went horribly wrong. Is it that bad to have a "bad" score and a better score that you receive later both show up when you apply to schools? I am not sure if this is entirely coherent, I am just trying to figure out if it is worth it to spend the $45 in advance or wait to see if I need to spend the $75 after, or if something goes horribly wrong if the fee has to be paid at all... any suggestions?

Hello,

I just started doing blind reviews and I wanted to know if it is okay to take breaks between doing sections while doing blind review. From what I understand the goal of blind review is to try and understand the methodology and reasoning behind the correct answer in each question and why you choose it. Based on that, I feel like I can do that a lot better not just without a time constraint, but also by taking 10-20 minute breaks during or in between sections. Does that defeat the purpose in anyway? is this a bad idea?

thank you!

While I was doing the problem set I found the "pin" function before each answer result as shown:

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I wonder what will happen after I've pinned those. Will I be able to generate a list of those pinned questions afterwards?

(sorry I don't know how to post an image. I put a link of the image as instructed but it's not showing here)

So I was doing the timed problem sets and I found there were different theme options ranging from 7sage to standard to choose. I wonder if the "standard" here means the format that looks exactly like the real test.

Some accidents happened to my CAS Report and it probably will not be complete until mid-April. I am thinking about 1) just not do anything and see what may happen in the end, maybe some schools still want me (but probably not my dream schools) 2) withdraw my applications and apply early next cycle

The reason why I am considering option 2 is because I am worried I may need to rewrite my app materials all over again, most of which I just finished in January and the next cycle is just half a year away. Let's say if admissions offices read my app this May, my stories will become a "recent old news" for them in Sept. Is my worry justified? And if I withdraw, am I a reapplicant next cycle?

Thanks!

I hope everyone is keeping their heads up in these times.

I got waitlisted and would like to send an updated resume. Since I finished the LSAT, I have been learning the Russian language. I know Arabic, Hebrew and conversational Spanish and I chose Russian because I love the language and have always wanted to learn it. I also know that being a multi-lingual lawyer can only be a competitive plus. Does anyone know how I can go about sending an 'updated resume'?

This is what I have so far but it feels so bland. Any help would be appreciated.

Thank you everyone.

Dear Admissions Committee,

Thank you for reviewing my application for admission to XX School of Law. Since completing the LSAT, I have been teaching myself the Russian language. A multi-lingual lawyer is indispensable and learning Russian can only open more doors of opportunity for myself and put me at a competitive edge.

Furthermore, I would like to express my continued interest in the school of law.

Sincerely,

XX

Ten years ago, I had the dream to quit teaching public school and attend law school to pursue a career as an education lawyer. I had taken 4 PTs about a month before the exam and I was shocked when I scored a 138.- I had no idea that my expectation was so off the wall crazy bonkers. Then I enrolled in a Kaplan course, took the test again and got a 148. I signed up to take it again, and sat the test but canceled my score. I was rejected from every school, except one, and I didn’t go because I was a crazy delusional that some schools were better than others. I didn’t want to go into the “4th tier toilet,” so pride stopped me from attending at all. I felt then that if that stopped me then I didn’t really want to be a lawyer. I kept teaching, earned an MA in policy instead, and started a second career in higher education as a student affairs professional. Here I am again, hoping that my flex score is at least a 152, knowing that I have to put the dream away if it doesn’t result in getting into the part time evening program in my city. I have a mortgage, a child, a great husband, and hoping to move up in my current career have another child and attend pt law. Maybe we can’t have everything, and that’s what I’m trying to convey.

For what it’s worth, I have learned a ton about myself and my understanding of this test and my ability to reason. I’ve consistently been blind reviewing at a 160-165 range, so the understanding is there. I have learned to trust myself, and that is huge!

Can someone explain why AC E is the correct answer instead of D?

In the lesson on bi-conditionals (Lesson 7 of 18 in Advanced Logic), we are told that "Alan attends the meeting only if Chris attends the meeting" is expressed as "A>C." I get that. But don't we need another expression that says in effect, "otherwise [or else], Alan does not attend"?

Admin Note: https://classic.7sage.com/lesson/advanced-bi-conditionals/

N/A

Given the rule, "If G and S are both in, then W is in," I understand the contrapositive is "If W is out, then G is out or S is out (since both G and S cannot be in). But why doesn't the contrapositive also allow for the possibility that G and S are BOTH out (as well as W being out)?

I was listening in on podcast #4 with LSATcantwin. Around 38 minutes in he mentions the thing for him at 18 was WoW, JY mentions Diablo 2. I put countless hours into Diablo 2, but I definitely don't see myself able to put in that time now. That doesn't mean I'm not hype for the remaster. Every now and then I'll play an hour or two of apex or warzone just to break from the routine.

What was a guilty pleasure for you (and maybe still is)?

Hi,

I've been trying really hard to understand Sufficient and necessary but for some reason always get stuck with diagramming when the usual indicators are not there. Can someone explain how to figure this out or recommend any resources please?

An example of the sentence I didn't get is “demands the memorization of unfamiliar commands” in PT 26.S3.Q21

Thanks!

Deciding between FSU and SMU

Which school should I pick??

So I am studying the "Introduction to Logic" section. So when I'm at the exam, after I've gone through the steps to eventually know the relationship in the "sufficient condition➡️necessary condition" form, should I note this relationship with an arrow down on paper physically for further use or should I just remember it in mind?

hi - so I took the january lsat and my score was OK, but at the low end of my 10point spectrum. so I applied to my first choice regional school and just received their decision yesterday. I'm in, and have a 50% merit scholarship. I'm above their 75%s on lsat and gpa. BUT, I am trying to get as close to 100% merit, as I'm paying out of pocket (no govt loans). I've been planning to take the june test just to finish with a bigger score (even if I had gotten a 100% - - I really love this test). When I took the test in january I started to have covid symptoms the day before my test - - a headache that I couldn't get rid of for the actual test - - i ended up with worse mild symptoms a few days later. So, I think I can do better! I've been preptesting better at the least. Another thing is that I found out last weekend that I have to have surgery on my eyes, my vision has been blurry since mid-2020 and now I know why. That may have impacted my january performance, but the surgery might also interfere with june - although I think the recovery time is pretty quick. I'm even wondering if I might qualify for some sort of vision-based accommodation (long shot). Needing a surgery just adds a layer that interferes with the june test (and also why I can't do the april test, besides signups being closed)

Has anyone ever re-applied to a school that accepted them the next cycle? do you think the school will penalize me if I do this? I certainly don't want to seem ungrateful for the merit award they offered and I don't want them to hold that against me. I'm also not sure whether I should just pay the seat deposit, take the june test and then try to renegotiate a higher scholarship - although that would be early july and they may have given away all their money? Anyone ever done this? I hate to throw away 'good money' that I could use for textbooks/study aids later on. Thoughts?

I also don't plan to re-apply if my score isn't at least 4 points higher as it would be like resubmitting the same application and hoping for a different outcome. I only applied to this one school and if I do much better, I'm thinking of applying to a couple more, since I think I want to move somewhere new.

thanks everyone! I really appreciate any feedback

Covered the CC fully last month & got into PTs this month; considering that my exam target is April, I've only taken exams in the 70s and 80s series. I've noticed that I tend to miss a lot of LR questions despite feeling like my fundamentals are solid post the CC. There's been good improvement in RC and LG [-4 and -5 respectively, with the potential to go -2 if I cut out the silly mistakes] since I started, but I really need help with LR questions on the newer exams which are [IMO] tougher than the ones discussed in the CC.

Is there a method to foolproof LR and RC that would be conducive to improvement?

I do really detailed Blind Review and analysis/review (after checking the answer choices) of all the LR and RC questions (including watching the majority of JY's video explanations), but when I solve a new PT I find that my score isn't increasing and that it has plateaued? So, I am not quite sure if continuing to solve new PTs and comprehensively reviewing them afterwards is sufficient, or if taking more time to re-review some of the LR questions/RC passages that I've struggled with in the past would be helpful (even if that means not being able to take as many PTs)? (I'm currently taking 1 PT/week).

Any help would be appreciated, thank you!