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Wednesday, Nov 18, 2020

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How long does it take for LSAC to process the writing samples? I took the November exam and the earliest I can take it is Friday and I am worried I wont get my score back on time. Not the end of the world I guess, just curious if others have had a quick turnaround

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Hi all! I'm currently part of a larger group for studying, and while it's amazing to see so many people working together, the group has become too big for effective communication. I'm looking to start a small, 10-person group for the January test. I'm thinking of mimicking others and doing weekly practice tests with one day devoted to reviewing problem areas/blind review - so essentially meeting twice a week. I personally work full-time so the group would meet in the evenings. If anyone is interested and able to commit #AccountabilityBuddies, please write your email below and I can send follow up!

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To those who are still working through things right now, let me just say, 7sage is worth it. I started studying on my own (without 7sage, just using the free Khan Academy program) in May. I took the July test and went from a 156 cold to a 164, but I'm interested in T10 schools. I did 7sage and made it through the whole core curriculum from August-September, including 20+ PT's. I got a 171 on the October test. This program really works. I was a bit all over the place on my PT's - with a few 178's and a few low 170's, as well as a few 168-9's. Don't be discouraged, just keep working at it.

I also have to say the Admissions info is super helpful - I only did the free course, but it's definitely worth a look!

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Thursday, Nov 19, 2020

Help!!!

Ive written the LSAT before and scored a 150. I am writing in Jan 2021. Last time i studied, I felt like I knew the concepts decently well. I was pting about 160 and even got up to a 168 at one point. But I was being very lenient with my self on time. Come test day I completley freaked out and my anxiety took over me resulting in a 150.

I am BR-ing at about 160 currently. Its taking me some time to refresh some concepts in my mind but I am not necessarily worried about knowledge. I am looking for some help with strategies to deal with the timing aspect of it and not freaking out. Even when I sit down for practice tests I get super anxious and I can't think straight, let alone get through a test. Any advice would be super helpful! :(

For reference, I reside in Canada and have applied to Canadian law schools. My gpa is solid so I really only need around a 160 to get into the schools of my choice.

LG I would say is my strongest.

LR is decent, average about -7

RC is my worst. I have thought about just doing the three passages and trying to do them well ensuring i get the most possible questions correct and then if theres time remaining make educated guesses on the last passage. I would do this to make sure im doing the passages with the most questions first, and with the assumption that im doing well on my other sections. Do ypu guys think this a good strategy or do you have any other tips?

Any help is greatly appreciated!! :)

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Hey everyone!

I wanted to share the good news, I got accepted into Washington University In St. Louis! From my first month of using 7sage, June, to now, I have found respite and great advice in these discussion forums. I never imagined myself to share some advice as well. So, here it is: do not give up, do not doubt yourself, you will always surprise yourself when you expect the least. If you have an LSAT score below a schools median do not shy away from applying just to save the $80. I had a 163, while WashU's median is a 169. Yet, they accepted me because of the overall holistic acceptance process. I would advice you too also use the Edit Once for your personal statement and/or diversity statements. These are major categories for admissions officers to look at. lastly, know why you want to go to law school. Your entire application will be built upon that foundation. Thank you everyone for creating this vibrant and supportive 7sage community. It has been a pleasure.

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I have decided to write a diversity statement regarding my socioeconomic status, but I honestly do not know where to start. If anyone has any tips or advice I'd really appreciate it! If you need someone to proof-read yours, I'd be happy to so I could get an idea of how to write mine.

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For those of you who've read Ellen Cassidy's The Loophole -- I know that she strongly recommends reading the stimulus and designing the CLIR before reading the question stem, but I personally find that it's a better strategy to read the stem first, as I tend to overanalyze/overlook parts of the stimulus. Also for questions like main point or argument part, I feel like it's a waste of time to be analytical about the argument (not necessarily during blind review but at least under timed conditions) when all you need to do is identify the conclusion/role of a sentence in the stimulus.

Do you guys find value sticking to her advice of reading the stimulus first, or is it okay to use her CLIR method yet read the stem first?

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Hello, I have posted a separate discussion post last night about my struggle with improving my score over the past 6 months, but I’m gearing this post more to materials that have helped people. After this amount of time I am familiar with the question types and patterns of subject matter that is on the exam and strategies on how to solve some of these questions. I am familiar with all of the popular and well-rated companies such as Powerscore and LSAT Demon, and I read the LSAT Trainer in full taking handwritten notes throughout the whole book. I have the LG Powerscore bible which I plan to get started on. With all of that said, have people found the curriculum for 7Sage effective in improving their score? I’m only about 5% in. What parts of 7Sage have helped you the most? I find the explanations to be helpful but I’m not sure that they actually help me improve my score. Does anyone recommend any materials for drilling problems such as the 5 lb. Manhattan Prep LSAT Drill book? Please let me know what your thoughts are on what specifically has helped you to improve your score; I don’t need anything introductory as again I am very familiar with the exam, as I’ve taken about 15 PT’s so far. Thank you! :)

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Have a conversation with the author

• this encourages a deeper analysis because it helps to imagine different viewpoints

• frontload: spend as much time possible on understanding the passage

Connect back

• to previous paragraphs

• previous parts of longer sentences (especially those with modifiers or ---.....---)

• pay close attention to referential phrases and anything that gave you pause

How to approach questions

• carefully read question stems

• think of ACs as contenders: treat each AC as not 100% correct, not 100% incorrect

• rarely go back and reread: unless it's a few seconds to verify some detail because sometimes our brain registers a word or phrase when skimming parts of a paragraph then we see an AC that includes that word/phrase but ends up being a trap AC. our brains find a way to make wrong ACs sound right

Active reading

• use examples: picture things in your head, or as JY says, flex your imagination (especially for sciences passages)

• engage with the passage right from the get-go

• having a structural low-res summary is always helpful, but memory retention is also important: your ability to recall detail can save time

Strategies on timing

• don't reread too much if down to two and it's a 50/50 tossup - if you can't get it in 5 seconds, flag and move on

• use "ctrl + f" as last resort

And most importantly: be careful and slow when reading; be aggressive when choosing and knocking out ACs

I've found @Christopherr 's RC sessions to be really helpful and I think this might be useful to those who couldn't make it!

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I have not gotten an email about it being online yet. When i log into my Official LSAC account, it says that I have a seat reserved at a testing center but they have not determined which one yet. Wouldn't it automatically register me for the Flex if that's what it is?

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I usually scored in the 169-172 range until the 70s. After moving into the 70s, my scores have dropped a bit. The wording and the difficulty seem different. Is it normal to see a score drop? Help! Freaking out before Jan test 😭

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Would like to hear some of your approaches to navigating through more difficult logic games. The thing I struggle with the most is knowing the right time to move on from game-board setup to the first question. I find that I'll consistently move on too early to avoid the feeling of lost time and knowing that there's probably an acceptable situation question first sometimes makes me want to move onto the questions prematurely. So basically what I'm wondering if you're stumped by a game should you spend the more of your time on a detailed setup or keep pace and move through the questions for potential inferences.

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So after a realization of mine, I've realized that it just simply won't be feasible for me to apply to law school for the Fall 2021 cycle. This exam has been such a challenge for me, and after 6 months I have seen little to no improvement in my score, scoring from 147-149 with little to no improvement and barely breaking 150. I have had 14 hours of private tutoring, read "The LSAT Trainer" in full taking notes, and have taken about 15 PT's so far. I feel that I have made progress, because I do of course recognize the patterns of the questions and the material overall at this point, but I just get so thrown off by the timed conditions and don't perform nearly as well as I would with more time. I feel like the progress that I have made is all in my head and is not reflecting my score which is frustrating. This exam has really humbled me in a sense and had me question my own capabilities. I did take the November LSAT Flex but I truthfully do not even want to see my score. I don't want to settle with an application that I am not happy with. Also not to mention but this exam has consumed me to the point that I was unable to focus on any other part of my application anyway, so i know it is for the best to wait. Can anyone else relate or has anyone else experienced this? Let me know in the comments, thanks!

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hi guys!

so im awaiting my november score like a lot of us, and i am trying to think of what i should do based on the score i get, so i can be ready when i see it. i was thinking that if it is 164 and lower i want to retake, but in that case is it too late to apply if i take it in january? or should i skip this application cycle and apply for fall 2022? because i have read a lot of mixed things with some saying it is alright to apply at that time and others saying that february applicants rarely get scholarship money, which i really need.

thank you in advance.

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let me give you some context before I ask you questions. I have been studying since early-mid August until now, but I really started studying in October. I have taken 4 practice tests and have only BR'd two of them. I have done multiple LR sections. I am naturally good at LG. Anyways, I take PT 54 and make a 152....my freaking diagnostic score....after all this studying. Then, I take a 1 day break and BR. My BR was a 167, but here is the weird thing. I remember on this 1st try for PT 54 I spent so much time thinking about answer choices, passages, ect. and I really think that is, in part, one of the biggest factors to why I am missing so many questions on the real timed exam. Timing isn't an issue either, in fact, in the BR I used a different strategy to approaching the passages, where I cared more to understand the structure of the passage rather than the content. In BR for LR, I trusted my gut on the answer choices and critiqued the wrong choices AFTER picking a right one (I usually critique AC before choosing a right one). Obviously if in my critique I think something is right then I analyze my 1st pick. All in all, I went from -13 RC -9 LR and -5 LG to -7 RC -2 LR and -1 LG.

Can someone explain if my though process is right on this? Do I simply need to practice, understand the material, and trust my instinct more? In BR the 1st AC I chose usually looks blatantly wrong so why doesn't this happen when I am actually taking the test?

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Admittedly, I am in a bit of a jam. I am 3 years out of undergrad and reached out to two of my professors (whom I was close with) about writing me letters of recc. Neither has gotten back to me about if they'd write me a letter (followed up with one once and haven't followed up with the other yet). I have one professional letter of rec coming from my work, but am worried if I submit my applications without an academic reference. Any ideas on what to do next? Should I reach out to more professors? Or is it okay if I only have professional references given I have been out of undergrad for so long?

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I messed up on my LG section when I had a computer issue. By the time I got it working again, the timer had run down to the end. I really don't want to lose the data for how long the questions take or get a false low score by not finishing in time. I know you can delete the entire test and go again, but can you just delete a section and restart it?

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Hello all,

I'm taking the LSAT in January and am worried that I'm burnt out already. I've studied really hard since late August, 35-40 hours a week. Last week and the week before, I took 5-6 prep tests and got my score goals (164 +) on all of them. This week, after two days off, I've attempted to start studying again but I feel burnt out. Given that I'm still two months out, should I focus more on individual sections or attempt to take full length tests? Today, I got 60 percent through a prep-test but literally had no motivation to finish.

What do you guys think? Do you have any good solutions for burnout?

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