I've been averaging 157 on a few older (30s-40s) PTs and tried 51. Got smashed with a 150. Is PT51 pretty indicative of later/more recent PTs or is PT51 harder than normal?

Hi! I've seen discussions online about the standard number of questions you can get wrong to score 170 (-7). Does anyone know what that number typically is for higher 170 scores, like 176? Does -3 or -4 sound right?

Have some time to kill. Anyone want to talk prep strategies, commiserate about this crazy app cycle, or throw some questions around?

CLOSED - Thanks for joining in everyone!

Can you use ctrl-F on the LSAT-Flex? I.e., this is completely allowed and not considered cheating in any way?

Hi there - I am applying this year’s cycle for entry in 2022, and just trying to get ahead of all materials needed for when the applications open. Does anyone have any suggestions or guidance on when is best to start asking your connections for letters of rec? I was thinking May/June if I want to apply early in the cycle (ie close to when apps open).Any thoughts?

I'm consistently scoring 160-165 range and my goal is 175+.

(I'm getting 0-2 wrong on LG so my weaknesses are LR and RC)

I'm prepping full-time, and I want to know if it's a good/realistic idea to set June/August 2021 as my test date.

How long should I expect to study?

Any advice/recommendation would be appreciated, thank you!

Hi everyone. RC is one of my best sections; I score no more than -3 per RC section. I will be hosting a free RC session today on Zoom at 6pm PST. If you're interested, you are definitely welcome to join. Please leave a comment below indicating interest.

We'll be utilizing the RC from PT 74. There will be two Zoom links. We will be using the first one first and then we'll be hoping over to the second one.

FIRST

Zoom Meeting (6:00 to 6:40 PST)

https://us05web.zoom.us/j/84762661546?pwd=bGNJNXQwb3Q0RTNIZUIwQ0o3UnFiZz09

Meeting ID: 847 6266 1546

Passcode: 0B2Y0C

SECOND

Zoom Meeting (6:41 to 7:21 PST)

https://us05web.zoom.us/j/88355805299?pwd=UmtmelhTWUZReHp4Q1RvREZidkFxZz09

Meeting ID: 883 5580 5299

Passcode: Q0kW0e

Hi,

I recently restarted my journey of studying for the LSAT. I realized that i'm having a hard time understanding the early grammar lessons. I've done both quizzes and have gotten a lot of them wrong. I moved to Canada when I was 4.5 years old so I am fluent in English so no idea why I'm having such a hard time grasping this information. Any advice on how to break down the sentences. I understand what subject, predicate and details mean but when it comes to using this information on the actual sentences I mess up.

Thanks!

If a few questions recur, I might edit this post to include a poll!

Stimulus (paraphrased)

Pamela: physicians in training work long, up to 36 hours, shifts and that fatigue impairs their ability to make the best medical decisions during final portions of their shift.

Quincy: Thousands of physicians have gone through this regiment with records to show that the system works. So why change now?

Though I realize I need to work in the stimulus to pick my answers, as someone who has worked shifts before, I know that your relief does not generally show up generously early. So if these physicians work up to 36 hours, they are in the long haul and that fatigue can be a very real risk to decision making towards the end.

Anyways, with everything in mind above, I was left with AC B vs C.

I picked AC C because of my influence from experience...hear me out: emergency-room patients needing continuity of physician care over the critical period after admission, generally 24 hours, would seem as though at any given crucial moment, the expectation would that a physician is able to make the best medical decisions. In the event where there is not a generous overlap between turnovers from one shift to the next, that leaves patients in critical conditions reliant on potentially fatigued physicians that are towards the end of their 36 hour shift. That is why I thought, this would be enough to counter Quincy's argument. Yes, the physicians do need to better working conditions to minimize fatigue that could impair medical decisions.

Meanwhile, AC B has me understanding it as there will be more seriously ill patients during their stay at the hospital than before. I felt like I had to draw an inference on this one. While not everyone in an emergency room may not be in a life threatening state, I guess AC B paints a better picture with more people requiring more attention and the need for best medical decisions??

Please help

I do not understand the difference between AC A and C. I chose the same wrong answer the second time around a few weeks later. They both sounds so similar in their paralleling method. Why is AC A (the one about the burglars who wore size 9 shoe) right over AC C (Ultra 180 design)?

Hey 7sagers!

I’m almost at the end of the Core Curriculum, and I'm planning on moving into the final PT phase of my studying around mid-march. I figure that this would be a really great time to start doing group PT Blind Review discussions. This would be in the form of zoom sessions dedicated to doing some in-depth question analysis on harder questions, and talking through timing strategy. All of course are welcome, however, my goal here is to hone skills, this won’t be a group for discussing fundamentals. I’m hoping these zoom meetings will be as needed/ semi regular. I can’t commit to x times per week, as I’m anticipating some weeks when I hone in on strategy as needed and forgo scheduled Practice Tests. I’m planning on starting with PT36 and working my way up from there.

Just some background information for people to know where I’m at:

I’m planning on taking the June or August exam, possibly both. I just registered for the June test today, actually (it was weirdly nerve wracking.) My last PT was back in September when I was just starting out with the CC. I got a 161, BR 173. I am nervous/excited to see where I'll be scoring a few weeks from now when I start PTs!

Let me know if this is something that sounds interesting/helpful to you, and we’ll go from there. I think it would also be great to have a group to lean on for general questions... like, I already have questions about submitting the writing sample for the Flex.

I ultimately chose A, but really struggle to eliminate B--which turned out to be correct. However, I am having trouble understanding why B is a better answer? Thanks in advance.

Hey guys, I just entered the PT phase of my lsat prep. I am planning on taking preptest 1-35 untimed, do blind review. And then, take full length timed test from PT 36. What do you guys think of this approach? Should I maybe do untimed from like 1-20? then from 21 move on to timed test?

AC: "mistakes a condition sufficient for bringing about a result for a condition necessary for doing so".

I was confused by the wording of this choice, and was wondering if there was a simple explanation. It's flipping something N --> S , is what I am thinking.

Do you read? Exercise? Drink 3 Red Bulls? lemme hear it.

I'm in need of a distraction. PT 88 just went, well... :')

Hola all I'm Mark I got a 169 in October and had around 20 apps ready to fire away as soon as I got my test results back. I'd like to share my results so far as well as some waitlist management advice. I've been obsessing about getting off the waitlist and have done a ludicrous amount of research (research sounds better than obsession).

I am what the Dean of admissions at Yale called a "super soft" aka military veteran and my ugpa was 3.42 which is notably low for t14.

Accepted with scholarship: Uga, Emory, Notre Dame

Denied: Harvard, Chicago, Cornell, Berkeley

Waitlist: UCLA, Georgetown, Northwestern, Penn, Michigan

My top choice is Northwestern and I'm doing everything in my control to get off their waitlist. Ultimately it will come down to how their class looks after their first and second deposit deadlines and what they class needs in terms of student demographic composition, and what the school's/Dean's goals are for that class (based on interviews I've listened to from Deans admissions officers etc).

Here is my waitlist advice I've gleaned from Harvard and Yale Deans, Michigan ad com officers, Harvard as com person, Michigan person, + my personal interactions with adcom.

Waitlist: do whatever the school asks in their waitlist email. Every 3-4 weeks and especially just after/before their deposit deadline write a letter of continued interest loci. You can print and handsign then upload as a PDF. Some schools don't care about loci format others may. In loci you can specify certain clinics, work programs, professors, courses that you're interested in. It really looks good if those are linked to a topic you expressed interest in in a PS or resume. Show how you love the city / want to live in the school's area. If you have a specific reason you like the school mention it. If it's your #1 pick and you would attend no matter what, say so. Be careful mentioning other competing offers - comes off as threat.

That's not exhaustive but it's a pretty good start. Best of luck!

Hey guys,

So I just started taking pts and doing blind reviews. It took me 5 days to solve and complete blind review pt1. but I think i can do two PTs a week. how many pt a week js realistic? I am doing lsat full tjme. And my goal is to take the october tesr. thank yyou!!!

Hello everyone!!

I am back offering LG assistance. DM if interested

The remote version was harder for me because:

RC makes up a larger portion; not only did I do significantly better on LR, my 2nd LR was almost always better than my first (more warmed up, I guess).

I enjoy walking into a testing environment and feeling pressure to perform in that space. It's just not as easy to get adrenaline/energy up alone in the area I've been captive in for hundreds of days.

Reading on-screen can be an issue. Tracking with a finger on paper helps improve reading speed. Someone also quoted me that reading on screen is 33% slower on average. Circle back to point 1.

Chime in with your own reasons (disagreeing is ok, too!)!

For those interested in an extra data point, here was my cycle. nURM, average applicant, 16high 3.6low.

ASU- $$+

Fordham- $$+

GULC- dong

Cornell- dong

USC- WL

BU- WL

NDLS- WL

UT- WL

UMN- $$$

UF- $$$+

WUSTL- WL

UGA- $$$

Boulder- $$

I'm withdrawing all my applications.

To be honest, I was in a hurry to become a white-collar working professional and make a respectable salary. Not everyone (least of all the KJDs with zero experience in the labor force) would want to work in a law office 40+ hours a week, which is why I recommend taking a gap year to test the waters. Imagine doing something you hate AND having 6-figure debt to your name :( it doesn't have to be that way. There are many other professions that pay better than law, have better work environments and have serious shortages of smart, driven candidates who can get the job done. It's never too late to make that change (not in my experience, at least).

I wish you all the best!!!

I recently asked one more professor to write me a letter of recommendation. She wrote and sent it to me around mid Feb. If I plan to apply for admissions again this Oct/Nov, will it be okay to reuse the letter of recommendation without needing to ask to reuse?

My brain melted trying to understand AC A..

= (

I am a bit confused on the benefit of score preview for first time test takers. I understand that you can have the score cancelled if you pay the $45/$75 fee, but what is the benefit of cancelling the score? I guess my question is, if something were to go wildly wrong with your LSAT experience (internet issues, proctor U issues, etc) would LSAC allow you the option to cancel that score without purchasing the score preview? I cannot see myself cancelling my first time score unless something went horribly wrong. Is it that bad to have a "bad" score and a better score that you receive later both show up when you apply to schools? I am not sure if this is entirely coherent, I am just trying to figure out if it is worth it to spend the $45 in advance or wait to see if I need to spend the $75 after, or if something goes horribly wrong if the fee has to be paid at all... any suggestions?

Hello,

I just started doing blind reviews and I wanted to know if it is okay to take breaks between doing sections while doing blind review. From what I understand the goal of blind review is to try and understand the methodology and reasoning behind the correct answer in each question and why you choose it. Based on that, I feel like I can do that a lot better not just without a time constraint, but also by taking 10-20 minute breaks during or in between sections. Does that defeat the purpose in anyway? is this a bad idea?

thank you!