Hello!

As the January test comes around, I'm starting to get a bit anxious with my RC score. What used to be my strongest section is now my weakest, and I can't tell where I am going wrong.

Looking at the Analytics tab, Application Questions (Purpose of passage & "Consistent Principal) are where I am struggling with the most. Does anyone have any advice tackling this area, or is it just continuing to read & practice generally. Would really appreciate any insight people have gained on this section

Thank you in advance

Hi there,

I got a decent score on my latest score that allows me to have a good chance in getting to the Canadian law school I'm hoping for. However, for some reason, the Admissions Officer was not able to download a copy of my score report. LSAC insists (after an hour long wait-time) that I get the school to download it because they never got a request. So basically the school can only see my old school and not any of new ones. Has this ever happened to anyone and if so what did you do? The problems that happen to me...

There was a great discussion that happened a few years back between "old" LSAT takers (yes, I know it's painful to referred to as old). I'm going to be 39 in a few weeks and am looking at law as my second career path. I spent most of my adult years as a professional dancer and teacher, and with a nearly 17 year gap between my undergrad and now I've found this whole process to be quite intense, and in all honesty quite lonely at times. If you're out there and you're in the same place in your life, I'd love to hear from you!

Hi! I was wondering if there is a special process I have to do to apply to law schools before I am fully done with undergrad classes. I will be finished with classes at the end of the year, but I want to start applying to law schools as early as I can this year. Is it just the same process but I have to specify I'm still in classes?

Thank you in advance!

Hello! I am interested to hear what folks' think about the above law schools and how they match up against each other. If one is interested in going into Big Law after law school in NYC or securing a federal clerkship (let's say that person does not need financial aid and for our purposes, he/she has the same grades at each of the schools), what school makes the most sense for these specific goals? And relatedly, which one of the schools above has the best reputation/standing in the eyes of Big Law firms in NYC?

A couple of thoughts:

Seton Hall is higher-ranked than both St. John's and Brooklyn, but my sense is that St. John's and Brooklyn have stronger alumni networks in NYC than Seton Hall. Is the higher ranking negligible, then? Should one take stock in Seton Hall's higher ranking nationally?

Cardozo - Yeshiva is higher ranked than all of the three other schools, but it has a shorter history than St. John's and Brooklyn. Based on my research, Cardozo - Yeshiva is deemed an "up-and-coming" law school and is highly ranked in part due to its superlative IP program. In the eyes of a big NYC law firm, does Cardozo - Yeshiva carry more weight than St. John's and Brooklyn -- all things being equal, that is? What would lead one to choose Cardozo over Brooklyn and St. John's, or St. John's over Cardozo?

A more general question: in the case of the four law schools that I identified above, how significant is the gap between Cardozo - Yeshiva (the highest rank school at 52) versus St. John's (the lowest rank school at 77) (i.e., how should one view the 25 rank difference)? Is there a material difference?

Any and all opinions/takes would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you.

In anticipation of the 2020 testing dates and testing centers being released by the LSAC soon, I am looking for insight on the best places to take the test, and most importantly, where to avoid. Thanks!

I decided to start from scratch two weeks ago and it's still a work in progress. I've had a few attorneys at my firm review it as well. Any feedback would be amazing!

Hi again everyone.

So, I've been studying for this test for about a year now, and although I've improved my score 20 points, I still am not scoring where I want to be (mid/high 160s). I linger from mid to high 150s, while consistently BRing in the low 170s.

I've watched webinars, read outside material (LSAT trainer) etc., but I still feel so discouraged and sort of aimless at this point. BRing in the 170s is what keeps my confidence up and makes me feel like I'll be able to score a 165+ when I take the real test this summer, but I honestly just don't know how to move from the 150s to the 160s consistently. My scores are sort of all over the place (the only consistency is the 170+ BR).

I guess what is making me feel discouraged is the fact that I understand the test (given the high BR average) and that that understanding has grown (I used to BR in the mid to high 160's), but that my actual score hasn't seemed to make substantial progress.

Is it as simple as getting more strict with the PT + BR routine? Do I need to find patience? I am in school, so it's been a little difficult balancing my schoolwork with the LSAT. But at this point, and given the fact that I am aiming to take the test in July, I'm ready to do whatever I can to get my score up to 165+. I've worked too hard to not get there.

Any honest advice from someone who has been in this similar position would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in advance.

Hi,

Since you probably have to uber back and forth to the test center, are cellphones allowed and can be kept outside in some locker ?

I am having huge fluctuations from test to test with the LG section, sometimes scoring 20 but sometimes scoring 10. I would say I more often score closer to 10 but every couple tests I score 19-20. I certainly feel this difference while taking the tests as some are so clear while other games jumble me. I guess it just comes down to hammering more games until I get to consistently scoring around 20.

Wondering if anyone else is experiencing a flux like this?

Hi guys, can anyone help me with not rushing through the RC and LR sessions? I find myself subconsciously skipping reading answer choices which cost me like -7 questions.

Hello! I am interested to hear what folks' think about the above law schools and how they match up against each other. If one is interested in going into Big Law after law school in NYC or securing a federal clerkship (let's say that person does not need financial aid and for our purposes, he/she has the same grades at each of the schools), what school makes the most sense for these specific goals? And relatedly, which one of the schools above has the best reputation/standing in the eyes of Big Law firms in NYC?

A couple of thoughts:

Seton Hall is higher-ranked than both St. John's and Brooklyn, but my sense is that St. John's and Brooklyn have stronger alumni networks in NYC than Seton Hall. Is the higher ranking negligible, then? Should one take stock in Seton Hall's higher ranking nationally?

Cardozo - Yeshiva is higher ranked than all of the three other schools, but it has a shorter history than St. John's and Brooklyn. Based on my research, Cardozo - Yeshiva is deemed an "up-and-coming" law school and is highly ranked in part due to its superlative IP program. In the eyes of a big NYC law firm, does Cardozo - Yeshiva carry more weight than St. John's and Brooklyn -- all things being equal, that is? What would lead one to choose Cardozo over Brooklyn and St. John's, or St. John's over Cardozo?

A more general question: in the case of the four law schools that I identified above, how significant is the gap between Cardozo - Yeshiva (the highest rank school at 52) versus St. John's (the lowest rank school at 77) (i.e., how should one view the 25 rank difference)? Is there a material difference?

Any and all opinions/takes would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you.

Can you take LSAT writing on the day of the exam ? I am assuming the link is available at midnight.

Is it possible to take the exam in the exam center ?

Could someone please explain this for me.

I understand that

A's wrong because it doesn't paraphrase the MP completely

B and D's are wrong for obvious reasons.

I picked C but half-guessed it.

#help

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Hi all.

In short, I've realized a major issue for me is my ability to stay concentrated and to not lose focus during full length tests. I'm fine when I time drill individual sections, but during the full length test I start to get a headache and my mind wanders. And the length is just daunting. Any of you who struggled with this: what did you do to reduce this issue or get more comfortable with the length/duration of the test? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

Sages,

After raising my PTs from 149 to 166, I've plateaued! The last three PTs I've been scoring at 166 and need to improve more. I am usually going -0 in logic games and -7 in each of the other sections.

I've been taking PTs and looking what question types I've got incorrect and drilled with those. I'm also sleeping well, with a balanced diet and workout schedule. What are ways to get over this plateau?

Hi all,

Sorry to be dramatic but i'm having a crisis here

PT average 159-160 After 10 PTs.

I am hoping to to go to the University Of Illinois law school for Fall 2020. I'm 25 and from the UK. Their deadline is March 15th.

I'm taking the January LSAT in 5 days time and panicing as I'm STILL struggling with Logic games. I've done over 100 unique sets, some multiple times and I still average about -10. but i've improved from the -20 i began with. I hoped i'd of been able to master them by now and i'm freaking out about it. Because i'm in the UK I cannot do the February exam. I feel so desperate i'm tempted to register for February in the US and fly there just to take it.

My LR and RC is consistently around -5 and i find them infinetly easier than LG.

If i manage to perfect Logic Games (or even raise LR or RC to - 2) in the 10 weeks before the March Exam and score a 167 plus over their medium of 162, do you think that would compensate for the late application? As they're not a T14 school, loads of decisions and scholarships are awareded well into June time. I would apply with my January score, include a Why X essay and ask they review the application upon receipt of the March score. If I'm an otherwise outstanding candidate, would they really care if i'm just a few weeks later than their deadline? judging from mylsn there is little difference in outcomes for those who applied ON the deadline of March 15 and even though who applied before Christmas.

I have 3 years of very solid work experience in public service. I've deferred going to law school for 3 cycles already and am desperate to move on with my life. I just can't wait another year.

Thank you,

I applied to Georgetown early decision on ~December 1st. On their website they guarantee a 4 week turn-around time on all early decision applications, but I haven't yet received word from them. I am assuming this is due to their office being closed during the holidays. However, I am also slightly concerned I missed a piece of physical mail due to living in a NYC apartment building. Would it be obnoxious to reach out to the admissions department?

This may be a stupid question but it has been driving me crazy. I plan on submitting both a C&F addendum as well as a GPA addendum with my applications, should I title the header as "Addendum" for both or rather, "GPA Addendum" and "C&F Addendum"? Or am I just overthinking this?

Back in September of 2019, I was registered for the LSAT; however, the night before,

I realized I was definitely not ready to sit for the exam. So, I withdrew from the test late that night. The time was actually passed the deadline to withdraw, but the link remained active. LSAC emailed me apologizing for the mistake, and gave me the chance to take another LSAT with my fee waiver.

So, I have a score of "absent" for the September exam.

I am planning to apply here in Feb. once my January LSAT score comes back, and I am planning on addressing the absent core in an addendum.

My question is this: How should I address this in my addendum, and how negatively will law schools look at this "absence"? Also, does it matter that I didn't do the September writing sample?

Any help is greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

James

I have struggled with translating biconditionals, so I have been drilling this skill using Manhattan Prep's "5lbs. Book of LSAT Practice Drills." Basically, you're given a conditional and asked to translate it. So far I have been getting them correct or have been able to identify where I went wrong. However, there's one particular part of the drill that I am stuck on, and was hoping someone could help me figure it out.

The statement reads, "If the trip includes Burkin Faso, it will include either Mali or Ghana, but not both."

My train of thought:

-"if" is Gl, sufficient

-"either or, but not both" is a biconditional indicator

BF- (----) M or G

/M and /G (-----) /BF

However, the answer key in the book says that the correct translation is:

BF------>M or G

M and G------>/B

/M and /G ------>/B

Why would this statement not be considered a biconditional? And why are there three possible answers?

Thanks in advance!

I've already sat for the LSAT twice and both times done a writing sample. I'll be sitting for it again this January.

Do I have to do the writing again?

I paid for the LSAC package that includes the sample but do I really have to since I already have two on my record?

Hello,

I will be submitting applications at the end of this week and my neuroticism is kicking in. If anyone is able to answer the below questions, it would be much appreciated. :)

My GPA is a 2.92 and I cannot decide whether or not to attach an addendum. During my time at college, my father struggled with addiction to prescription opioids. He was out of work and my family experienced economic hardship as a result (parents filed for bankruptcy multiple times, my house went into foreclosure). There were also many times that I had to drive home from school to pick up my brother or work to help my mother with bills. My father was there but really wasn't "there". Thankfully, his situation has improved and he has been in recovery for the last year and a half. Do you think that is addendum worthy? Please note that I will also be submitting a character and fitness addendum related to several charges that I received in college.

This one is kind of stupid but it has been driving me crazy. For schools that I submit multiple addenda to, should I title the header as "Addendum 1" for both or rather, "GPA Addendum 1" and "C&F Addendum 1".

I've notice that a lot of the schools I'm applying to ask for information about "All educational institutions attended" and provide an option for including high school information. Should I include my high school information at all? Also, if my undergraduate university does not rank its students, should I attach something to my application noting this? Almost all of the applications that I've filled out have asked for class rank in the section where I list the university I attended. Is it a big deal if I do not include my rank? I do not believe its required.

Some of the schools that I'm applying to provide a text box in the application form that asks me to explain circumstances that may have effected my college performance or ask that I attach an addendum. Would it look sloppy for me to leave that box blank or should I write something down the lines of "Please see attached character and fitness addendum."

My apologies for long post, things have been tight and unfortunately I can't squeeze the extra $250.00 for an hour of admissions counseling at this time. Going to law school means everything to me and I want to make sure I've covered every angle/nuance before applying (originally I was going to apply on December 19th, right after scoring a 166 on the November LSAT... thanks for that 7Sage!!) but I felt my applications were sloppy and have taken the last several weeks to clean them up.

Thank you for any insight and/or help in advance!

I’m looking for a blind review partner who is scoring in the mid 160+ to blind review together maybe 3+ times a week over phone or Skype. I’m aiming for the March or April administration and am hoping we can help each other spend a few hours a week helping each other grow. I have evenings and weekends available, with some availability during weekday mornings and afternoons.

Please comment or DM.

Hi guys,

Does anyone know how to approach this final game? Is it a three layer sequencing game? I was dumbfounded with the rule that none of V, W, Y, Z could be in a column (visit a country more than once).

Your help/explanation to approaching this LG would be very appreciated!

Thanks so much!

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